Juice Cleanse
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No one here thinks Veganism isn't healthy, eat what works for you.A fast, like everything else including what you are going to have for breakfast tomorrow, is a personal choice. If you decide to do it you definitely want online support from a forum for people who juice. I find the majority of people react to fasting much as they react to veganism. No meat and dairy? It must not possibly be healthy for you. But most vegans are really healthy. No solid food for a short temporary period of time? It can't possibly be healthy.
Do a fast/cleanse if you want to, but the ONLY added benefits would be spiritually. It does nothing to your body that your body can't already do.
Holy shiz this was epic. This is also why I love being Canadian.Medical opinions vary from doctor to doctor. Doctors to me are like mechanics, it's hard to find one you can trust. Did I really need that surgery or did doc just need a new Mercedes Benz?
This is my experience of the medical system in the United States of America. I have a pain or illness. I tell my symptoms to, as well as get weighed and checked over by a nurse. The doctor comes in and prescribes me some pills. Usually ones I can't afford so I have to call him back and ask for a different prescription. Then either a) the drug chemically makes me feel better or placebo effect and I feel better. Life goes on. Or b) Medicine does not help because doc misdiagnosed my condition. He sends me off to a specialists who sends me for tests, who then prescribes me another pill and then the cycle repeats. In meantime a bill for $5,000 sit at my door. I avoid docs like the plague. Most of my illnesses can be ascribed to stress and diet and I don't need a $5,000 bill to tell me that. If I'm truly drop down on the floor suffering I will seek medical attention, as for everything else I tend to my own health and mending.
A. Mostly no "fear mongering" that the government is out to get me re: healthcare or fake drugs.
Also, yes here Doctors are rich, but we trust them to actually want to help us (for the most part).
B. Everything is effin "free". Pretty sure most Americans would change their uneducated opinions if they had the option of free health care.
But, it's usually "ZOMG NO, DON'T TAX ME TO TAKE CARE OF OTHERS".
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No one here thinks Veganism isn't healthy, eat what works for you.A fast, like everything else including what you are going to have for breakfast tomorrow, is a personal choice. If you decide to do it you definitely want online support from a forum for people who juice. I find the majority of people react to fasting much as they react to veganism. No meat and dairy? It must not possibly be healthy for you. But most vegans are really healthy. No solid food for a short temporary period of time? It can't possibly be healthy.
Do a fast/cleanse if you want to, but the ONLY added benefits would be spiritually. It does nothing to your body that your body can't already do.
Holy shiz this was epic. This is also why I love being Canadian.Medical opinions vary from doctor to doctor. Doctors to me are like mechanics, it's hard to find one you can trust. Did I really need that surgery or did doc just need a new Mercedes Benz?
This is my experience of the medical system in the United States of America. I have a pain or illness. I tell my symptoms to, as well as get weighed and checked over by a nurse. The doctor comes in and prescribes me some pills. Usually ones I can't afford so I have to call him back and ask for a different prescription. Then either a) the drug chemically makes me feel better or placebo effect and I feel better. Life goes on. Or b) Medicine does not help because doc misdiagnosed my condition. He sends me off to a specialists who sends me for tests, who then prescribes me another pill and then the cycle repeats. In meantime a bill for $5,000 sit at my door. I avoid docs like the plague. Most of my illnesses can be ascribed to stress and diet and I don't need a $5,000 bill to tell me that. If I'm truly drop down on the floor suffering I will seek medical attention, as for everything else I tend to my own health and mending.
A. Mostly no "fear mongering" that the government is out to get me re: healthcare or fake drugs.
Also, yes here Doctors are rich, but we trust them to actually want to help us (for the most part).
B. Everything is effin "free". Pretty sure most Americans would change their uneducated opinions if they had the option of free health care.
But, it's usually "ZOMG NO, DON'T TAX ME TO TAKE CARE OF OTHERS".
Lulz
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No one here thinks Veganism isn't healthy, eat what works for you.A fast, like everything else including what you are going to have for breakfast tomorrow, is a personal choice. If you decide to do it you definitely want online support from a forum for people who juice. I find the majority of people react to fasting much as they react to veganism. No meat and dairy? It must not possibly be healthy for you. But most vegans are really healthy. No solid food for a short temporary period of time? It can't possibly be healthy.
Do a fast/cleanse if you want to, but the ONLY added benefits would be spiritually. It does nothing to your body that your body can't already do.
Holy shiz this was epic. This is also why I love being Canadian.Medical opinions vary from doctor to doctor. Doctors to me are like mechanics, it's hard to find one you can trust. Did I really need that surgery or did doc just need a new Mercedes Benz?
This is my experience of the medical system in the United States of America. I have a pain or illness. I tell my symptoms to, as well as get weighed and checked over by a nurse. The doctor comes in and prescribes me some pills. Usually ones I can't afford so I have to call him back and ask for a different prescription. Then either a) the drug chemically makes me feel better or placebo effect and I feel better. Life goes on. Or b) Medicine does not help because doc misdiagnosed my condition. He sends me off to a specialists who sends me for tests, who then prescribes me another pill and then the cycle repeats. In meantime a bill for $5,000 sit at my door. I avoid docs like the plague. Most of my illnesses can be ascribed to stress and diet and I don't need a $5,000 bill to tell me that. If I'm truly drop down on the floor suffering I will seek medical attention, as for everything else I tend to my own health and mending.
A. Mostly no "fear mongering" that the government is out to get me re: healthcare or fake drugs.
Also, yes here Doctors are rich, but we trust them to actually want to help us (for the most part).
B. Everything is effin "free". Pretty sure most Americans would change their uneducated opinions if they had the option of free health care.
But, it's usually "ZOMG NO, DON'T TAX ME TO TAKE CARE OF OTHERS".
I'm sorry but I'm furthest from uneducated when it comes to that subject. You calling us uneducated in a blanket statement like that is pretty ignorant of you. If I had the choice of having the socialist mentality applied to to us here I would pass on it. I don't need everything to be free. I work hard and earn what I get. I also like not having to wait 6 months to get an MRI.
It's not my job to take care of others. However, we do, through Medicaid but as an adult it's your job to earn what you get. We are not equals. You get what you put into life.
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So our taste buds are like computers. Things I didn't know.... reprogramming my taste buds to enjoy plant rich whole foods.
Does reprogramming those same taste buds also reprogram your spirit?A fast can be beneficial both physically and spiritually.
You are not seriously comparing how a particular doctor would treat an individual's symptom (or procedure) to what the vast medical consensus in how to lose weight?Medical opinions vary from doctor to doctor. Doctors to me are like mechanics, it's hard to find one you can trust. Did I really need that surgery or did doc just need a new Mercedes Benz?
So juice cleanse. Or something.This is my experience of the medical system in the United States of America. I have a pain or illness. I tell my symptoms to, as well as get weighed and checked over by a nurse. The doctor comes in and prescribes me some pills. Usually ones I can't afford so I have to call him back and ask for a different prescription. Then either a) the drug chemically makes me feel better or placebo effect and I feel better. Life goes on. Or b) Medicine does not help because doc misdiagnosed my condition. He sends me off to a specialists who sends me for tests, who then prescribes me another pill and then the cycle repeats. In meantime a bill for $5,000 sit at my door. I avoid docs like the plague. Most of my illnesses can be ascribed to stress and diet and I don't need a $5,000 bill to tell me that. If I'm truly drop down on the floor suffering I will seek medical attention, as for everything else I tend to my own health and mending.0 -
jenna80302 wrote: »I find that periodically juice fasting (smoothies, cold pressed juices, bone broth, bieler broth, and raw or lightly steamed vegetables) is a great way to get yourself back on track especially after a binge. Granted, I already eat an EXTREMELY clean diet (no gluten, dairy, soy, eggs, caffeine, alcohol, corn, refined sugar, nightshades, etc. etc.) and have been doing so for some time. When you cleanse it is a time to take a break and heal your body, to take a nap and relax, and ride out your emotions. I would recommend doing a two day juice fast at most, and if your diet isn't already dialed you will feel like CRAP, so try a transition day or two before hand and afterwords. Also, purchase a juicer or blender instead of purchasing cold pressed juices from a delivery service. This will be beneficial because 1) the juices are fresher and most likely less processed, and 2) you will save oodles of money. Also, take activated charcoal to help grab those free radicals that will be released.
Juice fasting is an enlightening and powerful cleansing experience, it is NOT a quick fix solution for weight lose. Please, Please, Please consider cutting out Gluten, Refined Sugar, caffeine, soy, eggs, and dairy before attempting this. It will alleviate any withdrawal symptoms you may experience (you will definitely experience symptoms).
Please note that I am not a certified dietician or a doctor, I just know what helps me... and juice fasting does.
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It's not my job to take care of others. We are not equals. You get what you put into life.
Damn you sound like a great person. What someone is able to put into life is highly dictated not by their personal character, but by circumstances beyond their control. Most specifically socioeconomic status at birth and familial situation.
I am successful for my age and stand to be verrry successful down the road, but I cannot in good faith claim those successes to be entirely mine. I have had parents who have supported me financially and emotionally through high school, college, graduate school, and in thousands of other little ways. Yes, I have worked incredibly hard, but would that same amount of effort gotten me here if I had started from another position? Doubtful. Not impossible, but doubtful.0 -
No one here thinks Veganism isn't healthy, eat what works for you.A fast, like everything else including what you are going to have for breakfast tomorrow, is a personal choice. If you decide to do it you definitely want online support from a forum for people who juice. I find the majority of people react to fasting much as they react to veganism. No meat and dairy? It must not possibly be healthy for you. But most vegans are really healthy. No solid food for a short temporary period of time? It can't possibly be healthy.
Do a fast/cleanse if you want to, but the ONLY added benefits would be spiritually. It does nothing to your body that your body can't already do.
Holy shiz this was epic. This is also why I love being Canadian.Medical opinions vary from doctor to doctor. Doctors to me are like mechanics, it's hard to find one you can trust. Did I really need that surgery or did doc just need a new Mercedes Benz?
This is my experience of the medical system in the United States of America. I have a pain or illness. I tell my symptoms to, as well as get weighed and checked over by a nurse. The doctor comes in and prescribes me some pills. Usually ones I can't afford so I have to call him back and ask for a different prescription. Then either a) the drug chemically makes me feel better or placebo effect and I feel better. Life goes on. Or b) Medicine does not help because doc misdiagnosed my condition. He sends me off to a specialists who sends me for tests, who then prescribes me another pill and then the cycle repeats. In meantime a bill for $5,000 sit at my door. I avoid docs like the plague. Most of my illnesses can be ascribed to stress and diet and I don't need a $5,000 bill to tell me that. If I'm truly drop down on the floor suffering I will seek medical attention, as for everything else I tend to my own health and mending.
A. Mostly no "fear mongering" that the government is out to get me re: healthcare or fake drugs.
Also, yes here Doctors are rich, but we trust them to actually want to help us (for the most part).
B. Everything is effin "free". Pretty sure most Americans would change their uneducated opinions if they had the option of free health care.
But, it's usually "ZOMG NO, DON'T TAX ME TO TAKE CARE OF OTHERS".
I'm sorry but I'm furthest from uneducated when it comes to that subject. You calling us uneducated in a blanket statement like that is pretty ignorant of you. If I had the choice of having the socialist mentality applied to to us here I would pass on it. I don't need everything to be free. I work hard and earn what I get. I also like not having to wait 6 months to get an MRI.
It's not my job to take care of others. However, we do, through Medicaid but as an adult it's your job to earn what you get. We are not equals. You get what you put into life.
Um, isn't your job taking care of others?
And yes, our healthcare system has its flaws, but so does socialized healthcare. And if I get a bad opinion from a doctor, I can schedule another appointment with a different doctor within a few weeks (and the delay is usually because a new patient). And I can have elective surgery without waiting for 6 months-3 years. And I can see a specialist without a referral. I have heard of several Canadians coming to the states for medical care (just like some Americans go to Canada to buy prescriptions).0 -
mackenzierain wrote: »It has nothing to do with weight loss. I've been having stomach aches/ pains no matter what I eat lately and feel this is a way to help that with a 3 day juice cleanse. It consists of 6 drinks each day + water and herbal tea. I've grown up with my dad doing unhealthy juice cleanses ("lemonade cleanse") which I don't agree with and would never do. Post cleanse my plan was for lots of veggies and fruits and slowly add in other foods as tolerated. Hope this makes sense.
You say you would never do one ... yet plan on doing one.0 -
...Why do all Americans seem to assume that nationalised healthcare means long waiting lists? I've always been dealt with quickly for every problem I've ever had. No waiting lists in sight - my haemotologist even stays an extra hour at the hospital to fit in with my lecture times. When I have to have my spleen out in a few months (I'm waiting until I'm done with uni) I'll only have to wait a couple weeks. The NHS seriously rocks. I'd never have been able to afford a splenectomy if I lived in the US, being a student with a retired dad and deceased mum.
Anyway, to the original point of the thread... juices are a waste of money, imo. Why would you take the best part of the fruit/veg (fibre) OUT? OP, you should see a doctor if you're having stomach problems.0 -
MarziPanda95 wrote: »...Why do all Americans seem to assume that nationalised healthcare means long waiting lists? I've always been dealt with quickly for every problem I've ever had. No waiting lists in sight - my haemotologist even stays an extra hour at the hospital to fit in with my lecture times. When I have to have my spleen out in a few months (I'm waiting until I'm done with uni) I'll only have to wait a couple weeks. The NHS seriously rocks. I'd never have been able to afford a splenectomy if I lived in the US, being a student with a retired dad and deceased mum.
Anyway, to the original point of the thread... juices are a waste of money, imo. Why would you take the best part of the fruit/veg (fibre) OUT? OP, you should see a doctor if you're having stomach problems.
They assume long wait times because they see how Canada has mismanaged the public health system. UK has a better system as do the Australians and scandinavian countries.
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I guess that's where we will just have to agree to disagree.
No one here thinks Veganism isn't healthy, eat what works for you.A fast, like everything else including what you are going to have for breakfast tomorrow, is a personal choice. If you decide to do it you definitely want online support from a forum for people who juice. I find the majority of people react to fasting much as they react to veganism. No meat and dairy? It must not possibly be healthy for you. But most vegans are really healthy. No solid food for a short temporary period of time? It can't possibly be healthy.
Do a fast/cleanse if you want to, but the ONLY added benefits would be spiritually. It does nothing to your body that your body can't already do.
Holy shiz this was epic. This is also why I love being Canadian.Medical opinions vary from doctor to doctor. Doctors to me are like mechanics, it's hard to find one you can trust. Did I really need that surgery or did doc just need a new Mercedes Benz?
This is my experience of the medical system in the United States of America. I have a pain or illness. I tell my symptoms to, as well as get weighed and checked over by a nurse. The doctor comes in and prescribes me some pills. Usually ones I can't afford so I have to call him back and ask for a different prescription. Then either a) the drug chemically makes me feel better or placebo effect and I feel better. Life goes on. Or b) Medicine does not help because doc misdiagnosed my condition. He sends me off to a specialists who sends me for tests, who then prescribes me another pill and then the cycle repeats. In meantime a bill for $5,000 sit at my door. I avoid docs like the plague. Most of my illnesses can be ascribed to stress and diet and I don't need a $5,000 bill to tell me that. If I'm truly drop down on the floor suffering I will seek medical attention, as for everything else I tend to my own health and mending.
A. Mostly no "fear mongering" that the government is out to get me re: healthcare or fake drugs.
Also, yes here Doctors are rich, but we trust them to actually want to help us (for the most part).
B. Everything is effin "free". Pretty sure most Americans would change their uneducated opinions if they had the option of free health care.
But, it's usually "ZOMG NO, DON'T TAX ME TO TAKE CARE OF OTHERS".
I'm sorry but I'm furthest from uneducated when it comes to that subject. You calling us uneducated in a blanket statement like that is pretty ignorant of you. If I had the choice of having the socialist mentality applied to to us here I would pass on it. I don't need everything to be free. I work hard and earn what I get. I also like not having to wait 6 months to get an MRI.
It's not my job to take care of others. However, we do, through Medicaid but as an adult it's your job to earn what you get. We are not equals. You get what you put into life.
Though you're right, me calling most uneducated wasn't very fair. It's just the majority of people complaining usually don't know all the details, so my bad for severely generalizing those idiots that are the loudest.
But just an FYI - MRI's/elective surgeries taking months/years is also a generalization. If you're at need, you can get help right away. My coworkers son needs his tonsils and adenoids removed - he got booked already for next week. Just depends I guess on viewing both sides of the situation.
Anywho, I guess we're in the right places then, as I would never want to be in a situation to decide if I can "afford" to get something looked at. Not that I am currently in that situation due to a great economy where I live, but that's just how I view it.
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My bad, I just lol'd at the Mercedes Benz comment earlier and went on a tangent.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »...Why do all Americans seem to assume that nationalised healthcare means long waiting lists? I've always been dealt with quickly for every problem I've ever had. No waiting lists in sight - my haemotologist even stays an extra hour at the hospital to fit in with my lecture times. When I have to have my spleen out in a few months (I'm waiting until I'm done with uni) I'll only have to wait a couple weeks. The NHS seriously rocks. I'd never have been able to afford a splenectomy if I lived in the US, being a student with a retired dad and deceased mum.
Anyway, to the original point of the thread... juices are a waste of money, imo. Why would you take the best part of the fruit/veg (fibre) OUT? OP, you should see a doctor if you're having stomach problems.
They assume long wait times because they see how Canada has mismanaged the public health system. UK has a better system as do the Australians and scandinavian countries.
ETA wow did this thread suddenly derail...
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My bad, I just lol'd at the Mercedes Benz comment earlier and went on a tangent.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »...Why do all Americans seem to assume that nationalised healthcare means long waiting lists? I've always been dealt with quickly for every problem I've ever had. No waiting lists in sight - my haemotologist even stays an extra hour at the hospital to fit in with my lecture times. When I have to have my spleen out in a few months (I'm waiting until I'm done with uni) I'll only have to wait a couple weeks. The NHS seriously rocks. I'd never have been able to afford a splenectomy if I lived in the US, being a student with a retired dad and deceased mum.
Anyway, to the original point of the thread... juices are a waste of money, imo. Why would you take the best part of the fruit/veg (fibre) OUT? OP, you should see a doctor if you're having stomach problems.
They assume long wait times because they see how Canada has mismanaged the public health system. UK has a better system as do the Australians and scandinavian countries.
ETA wow did this thread suddenly derail...
LOL, well hopefully we can remove the politics now and get back to our regularly scheduled MFP juice cleanse thread. 0 -
Personally I'm not a fan of juice cleanses. If I do a cleanse it's usually an ayurvedic one where you still eat food and incorporate yoga and detach from electronics and stuff. Or try cutting out processed sugar for a while, there's really no downside!0
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Oh dear FSM, I had no idea there was such a thing.KombuchaCat wrote: »Personally I'm not a fan of juice cleanses. If I do a cleanse it's usually an ayurvedic one...
THIS CALLS FOR THE: Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator
""Your body imparts reality to dimensionless joy" "0 -
the whiskey cleanse is good0
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nakedraygun wrote: »
Oh dear FSM, I had no idea there was such a thing.KombuchaCat wrote: »Personally I'm not a fan of juice cleanses. If I do a cleanse it's usually an ayurvedic one...
THIS CALLS FOR THE: Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator
""Your body imparts reality to dimensionless joy" "
ayurvedic...uhm...err..ohm...isn't that what I'm supposed to say? 0 -
KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »the whiskey cleanse is good
We have a winner!0 -
lol... From the website:Wheelhouse15 wrote: »nakedraygun wrote: »
Oh dear FSM, I had no idea there was such a thing.KombuchaCat wrote: »Personally I'm not a fan of juice cleanses. If I do a cleanse it's usually an ayurvedic one...
THIS CALLS FOR THE: Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator
""Your body imparts reality to dimensionless joy" "
ayurvedic...uhm...err..ohm...isn't that what I'm supposed to say?
"It has been said by some that the thoughts and tweets of Deepak Chopra are indistinguishable from a set of profound sounding words put together in a random order, particularly the tweets tagged with "#cosmisconciousness". This site aims to test that claim! Each "quote" is generated from a list of words that can be found in Deepak Chopra's Twitter stream randomly stuck together in a sentence."0 -
Double agree!Wheelhouse15 wrote: »KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »the whiskey cleanse is good
We have a winner!
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The random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator made my day. Thank you. (*slow clap*)
PS If OP is still following this thread, PLEASE go see a doctor about your stomach pains.0 -
greengoddess0123 wrote: »The random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator made my day. Thank you. (*slow clap*)
"Death nurtures the progressive expansion of brains"0 -
It's not my job to take care of others. However, we do, through Medicaid but as an adult it's your job to earn what you get. We are not equals. You get what you put into life.
Sorry, I didn't realize when I fell critically ill at the age of 25 that I should have declined treatment since it required Medicare and Medicaid paying way more than I'd put into the system in a few years of work. I thought surviving sounded like a better option than dying.
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@christinev297 On the juice I only lost a couple pounds,which I expected little to none since it was after the master cleanse where I lost 10lbs in 10 days. I don't consider that permanent weight loss though. You do truly put your body into starvation mode where it gains it's fuel from the energy and nutrients stored in your fat and muscle tissue. Once you're eat again your body is going to want to start storing fat in case you're going to be starving again soon. It won't surprise me if I gain a little weight this week due to eating more foods.
I do believe the only way to permanent long term weight loss is by slowly losing weight through a healthy nutritious diet and regular exercise. My goal was to cleanse my taste buds and nip all my unhealthy cravings in the bud. And fasting REALLY helped with that. I can even be around family eating the foods I used to eat and not crave them. I'm enjoying cooking with ingredients and foods I never thought to eat before - like the spinach soup I had yesterday with my dinner. It was seasoned with fresh parsley, cilantro, onion and roasted garlic. The cream base was ground raw cashews and no oils were used in the cooking. It was absolutely delicious!
My family even likes the vegan food I cook and I let them eat as much of it as they want but I refuse to cook their non-vegan food. That they can do that themselves.
You can't see my weight loss on my profile because I had a lousy old bathroom spring scale which I just recently replaced with a digital scale. I've reset all my weight goals and now that I'm no longer fasting this is really where the new diet and real weight loss begins. The fast was simply my launching pad.0 -
Ok, I can understand wanting to lose fat and "reset" your taste buds but why would you want to intentionally lose muscle? That makes no sense.0
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A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.
Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.
And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.0 -
terricherry2 wrote: »
Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.
You would think, wouldn't you?0
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