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  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
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    the whiskey cleanse is good

    We have a winner!
  • giantrobot_powerlifting
    giantrobot_powerlifting Posts: 2,598 Member
    edited February 2015
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    Personally I'm not a fan of juice cleanses. If I do a cleanse it's usually an ayurvedic one...
    Oh dear FSM, I had no idea there was such a thing.

    THIS CALLS FOR THE: Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator

    ""Your body imparts reality to dimensionless joy" "

    ayurvedic...uhm...err..ohm...isn't that what I'm supposed to say? ;)
    lol... From the website:

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  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
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    the whiskey cleanse is good

    We have a winner!
    Double agree!
  • greengoddess0123
    greengoddess0123 Posts: 417 Member
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    The random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator made my day. Thank you. (*slow clap*)

    PS If OP is still following this thread, PLEASE go see a doctor about your stomach pains.
  • giantrobot_powerlifting
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    The random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator made my day. Thank you. (*slow clap*)

    "Death nurtures the progressive expansion of brains"
  • ljmorgi
    ljmorgi Posts: 264 Member
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    MrM27 wrote: »
    It's not my job to take care of others. However, we do, through Medicaid but as an adult it's your job to earn what you get. We are not equals. You get what you put into life.

    Sorry, I didn't realize when I fell critically ill at the age of 25 that I should have declined treatment since it required Medicare and Medicaid paying way more than I'd put into the system in a few years of work. I thought surviving sounded like a better option than dying.
  • JacquiH73
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    @christinev297‌ On the juice I only lost a couple pounds,which I expected little to none since it was after the master cleanse where I lost 10lbs in 10 days. I don't consider that permanent weight loss though. You do truly put your body into starvation mode where it gains it's fuel from the energy and nutrients stored in your fat and muscle tissue. Once you're eat again your body is going to want to start storing fat in case you're going to be starving again soon. It won't surprise me if I gain a little weight this week due to eating more foods.

    I do believe the only way to permanent long term weight loss is by slowly losing weight through a healthy nutritious diet and regular exercise. My goal was to cleanse my taste buds and nip all my unhealthy cravings in the bud. And fasting REALLY helped with that. I can even be around family eating the foods I used to eat and not crave them. I'm enjoying cooking with ingredients and foods I never thought to eat before - like the spinach soup I had yesterday with my dinner. It was seasoned with fresh parsley, cilantro, onion and roasted garlic. The cream base was ground raw cashews and no oils were used in the cooking. It was absolutely delicious!

    My family even likes the vegan food I cook and I let them eat as much of it as they want but I refuse to cook their non-vegan food. That they can do that themselves.

    You can't see my weight loss on my profile because I had a lousy old bathroom spring scale which I just recently replaced with a digital scale. I've reset all my weight goals and now that I'm no longer fasting this is really where the new diet and real weight loss begins. The fast was simply my launching pad.
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
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    Ok, I can understand wanting to lose fat and "reset" your taste buds but why would you want to intentionally lose muscle? That makes no sense.
  • terricherry2
    terricherry2 Posts: 222 Member
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    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
  • DirrtyH
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    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    You would think, wouldn't you?
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
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    JacquiH73 wrote: »
    @christinev297‌ On the juice I only lost a couple pounds,which I expected little to none since it was after the master cleanse where I lost 10lbs in 10 days. I don't consider that permanent weight loss though. You do truly put your body into starvation mode where it gains it's fuel from the energy and nutrients stored in your fat and muscle tissue. Once you're eat again your body is going to want to start storing fat in case you're going to be starving again soon. It won't surprise me if I gain a little weight this week due to eating more foods.

    I do believe the only way to permanent long term weight loss is by slowly losing weight through a healthy nutritious diet and regular exercise. My goal was to cleanse my taste buds and nip all my unhealthy cravings in the bud. And fasting REALLY helped with that. I can even be around family eating the foods I used to eat and not crave them. I'm enjoying cooking with ingredients and foods I never thought to eat before - like the spinach soup I had yesterday with my dinner. It was seasoned with fresh parsley, cilantro, onion and roasted garlic. The cream base was ground raw cashews and no oils were used in the cooking. It was absolutely delicious!

    My family even likes the vegan food I cook and I let them eat as much of it as they want but I refuse to cook their non-vegan food. That they can do that themselves.

    You can't see my weight loss on my profile because I had a lousy old bathroom spring scale which I just recently replaced with a digital scale. I've reset all my weight goals and now that I'm no longer fasting this is really where the new diet and real weight loss begins. The fast was simply my launching pad.
    Starvation mode is a myth.

    Consciously choosing to lose muscle mass? Insanity.
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
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    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!
  • JacquiH73
    JacquiH73 Posts: 124 Member
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    @jkwolly I agree the United States would be much better of with national healthcare. I've been advocating for single-payer since the Clinton administration. Under a capitalist healthcare system the game is rigged in the house's favor. Sickness equals profits. Health equal loss and unfortunately American marketing leans towards promoting an unhealthy diet. If healthcare was socialized it would be much more focused on nutrition and prevention. This is one area where I think my nation is really backwards.

    @nakedraygun‌ Yes you can reprogram your taste buds. You can acquire tastes for things you did not like before. Food rich in sodium, sugar and fat tend to desensitize our taste buds to whole foods because they are rich and their flavors overwhelm the palate.

    And to the one that said there is no possible physical benefit to juice fasting I have to disagree, especially having just done one. I feel really great.

    If anyone wants to have support through juice fasting or going vegan feel free to message and friend me.

  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    edited February 2015
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    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
  • giantrobot_powerlifting
    giantrobot_powerlifting Posts: 2,598 Member
    edited February 2015
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    JacquiH73 wrote: »
    @nakedraygun‌ Yes you can reprogram your taste buds. You can acquire tastes for things you did not like before.
    That sounds like basic old acquiring a taste, a liking to something, not "reprogramming." Why interject this misleading language? Oh because it sounds like you are doing something.
    JacquiH73 wrote: »
    Food rich in sodium, sugar and fat tend to desensitize our taste buds to whole foods because they are rich and their flavors overwhelm the palate.
    This is the part where I ask you for evidence.
    JacquiH73 wrote: »
    And to the one that said there is no possible physical benefit to juice fasting I have to disagree, especially having just done one. I feel really great.
    All the skeptics have said this is a bad idea, which means there is no long term, sustainable benefit from juice fasting.

    All you have done is reduced your caloric intake to a sudden, extreme deficit without rounding your other macro needs. Nothing can be gained through malnutrition, muscle loss, and then eventually failing to meet your goal weight.
  • jkwolly
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    RGv2 wrote: »
    jkwolly wrote: »
    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.
    He was referring to Canada, where we do have longer waits than UK/Scandinavian countries, but it's still over blown and really not that terrible.

    Can't argue opinions though, as his is basically opposite of how you and I feel. Guess to each their own but I am just glad I am where I am.
    Car accident and I am in a comma? YAY for not having to re mortgage your house.
    $5K to save for having a baby? Nopers, just pop it out!

    And.........apparently there's misinformation abound.
    Seems like it's on both sides.

    I meant if I had no insurance. Or feel free to let me know if that's wrong?!
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    A bit off topic (sorry OP) but after reading opinions from presumably people from the US, I have to say that you generally sound like many of you have been seriously misinformed about state health care in socialist countries. In the UK (where I am) I've never had to wait 6 months to see a specialist, as several people have stated. If we want a second opinion we are entitled to get one, or even ten if we choose! We can also choose where and who to be treated by and are treated according to urgency rather than how much money we have. And as statistically one of the top healthcare systems in the world (clinical outcomes, quality of care etc) although there is always room for improvement, our per capita spend on healthcare is still around 10% of what the US spends.

    Apologies, I don't have the links to hand for you to read this yourselves. But I would have thought that in a highly educated western country, more people would question the scare mongering tactics of those relying on the biggest money making industry you have for thier millions, when they tell you how social healthcare provision would take you back to the dark ages.

    And for those essentially saying it's every man for themselves, I hope you are never in the unfortunate position of being unable to provide for yourselves and your families through no fault of your own like so many others.

    Oh look, another passive aggressive yet attempting to be insulting blanket statement.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    @JacquiH73 your feelings are not a substitute for science.
  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
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    Unless you are bathing in a tub of juice, the answer is NO.