Vegan hate
horrorghoul
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Why do people get so mad when they find out that I am vegan? Like they get really mad and tell me that people were meant to eat meat. My being vegan only comes out if I am having to order food.
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people are terrible thats why0
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Who cares what people think? What you think is what matters. Tell them to mind their own bloody business.0
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It only matters if you are pushing your diet on them0
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I only get mad at vegans if they start telling me I can't eat meat. Otherwise - woo, more for me!0
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#1 rule of Vegan's - Never discuss Vegan-ism with non vegans.horrorghoul wrote: »Why do people get so mad when they find out that I am vegan? Like they get really mad and tell me that people were meant to eat meat. My being vegan only comes out if I am having to order food.
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They get really mad?0
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We see the world, not as it is, but as we are.0
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I could see people getting mad or frustrated if they felt like a vegan was trying to push their beliefs on them or preaching about it. That's super annoying.
But if you just mention that you are a vegan and leave the conversation at that , they shouldn't get mad.
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I've had mixed reactions on me being vegetarian. After five years, you learn to live and let live. I don't bring it up, or discuss it with people unless they ask, and even then, I keep it short. My diet isn't up for debate, and I don't bother to talk about it unless important.
Also, when they get mad, something along the lines of, "Enjoy it if you wish, but it's not my for me, personally." normally works well to diffuse situations. My best friend is eats primal and is convinced that veganism is the greatest sin against humanity, and we get along just fine, because we bond over our mutual love for vegetables.
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They get really mad?
Yes! When I was a vegetarian and people found out (not that I ran around announcing it), I would get all kinds of BS from people. I was not one to talk about it much, I made this change for me and me alone so I always found it odd that others were so vocal about this. My former boss would actually ask me what I ate for dinner and would then tell me how God made animals to be consumed. Dude, MYOB!
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The worst is a vegan who likes to point out all the vegan foods that you should eat0
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id tell you the actual reason why
but i dont feel like inciting attacks from carnivores right now
maybe later when i feel sassier
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I love vegans! They taste delicious with ketchup!
I'm totally kidding. I've never eaten a vegan.
Well, I did eat cow......but they eat bugs!0 -
Salembambi's not wrong ...
There are people who believe that if you have an opinion, you must resent their other opinion. So they get proactively defensive. And so they assume that you're pushy, even though I'm sure you're not. I've never actually met a pushy vegetarian or Vegan. But I know a lot of my fellow omnivores who assume that you all are out to convert us with your anti-meat mind powers or something.
People suck, I'm afraid.0 -
Personally I am to cows what Voldamort is to Harry Potter (yeah.. it's the best I could come up with lol)..
That said, one of my best friends is a vegan and I have never thought any less of her for it!
It can also be how you put yourself across to others (not you personally, just in general), putting carnivor-ism, vegan-ism, etc across to others in a way that implies it is the only way of life that should be followed is guaranteed to get negative responses.. simply talking about your choices in life though, there is no reason for anybody to insult you for it!0 -
The worst is a vegan who likes to point out all the vegan foods that you should eat
Actually, I find that tremendously helpful. I've cut nearly 1000 calories per day with improved nutrition by getting information from Vegan/vegetarian sites and friends. I haven't made the switch and don't think I ever will, but there's a lot of great information out there.
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I'm all in favor of helpful tips about eating better, but I have a couple of vegan friends who look down their noses at me when I eat turkey or chicken. I ate vegan for a month, I really missed chicken. But I never criticize them for being vegan.0
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Back in my vegetarian days people made such a big deal out of not eating meat, especially bacon. I never understood it either.
How sick do you get of people asking you where you get you protein and iron from?0 -
Who cares what people think? What you think is what matters. Tell them to mind their own bloody business.
It's mainly because vegans are strongly associated with the extreme left politically and well, the extreme-left's behavior can seem rather treacherous at times. As the extreme right can seem to be warmongers although truthfully, there are no extreme rightwing politicians anymore. Politics now, of whatever affiliation, is a race to see how duplicitously patronizing they can be and not get caught. Household and government deficits don't arise from saying no.
I became vegan because I found out via the HSUS.org how abusive the big business of industrialized animal husbandry is. I share my HSUS.org Facebook posts to my friends all the time. Some have become much more cautious with trusting industrialized farming.
When the subject of veganism comes up I simply say the truth, I am vegan because big business is mean to those animals. And after I say that, there is nothing left to discuss really.
It wasn't even difficult to quit meat, it's not like it actually tastes good. I've heard enough talk and my own taste for over 45 years to know that what people like about meat is the blood and the fat - that is the high salt in the blood and the fat in the meat. Well, just buy a tub of margarine and a box of Morton salt and you're set without all the animal abuse. Or self-abuse if you know what those meats have been pumped with. It's a lot cheaper and healthier too. There's not a doubt most sick time and cancers in America are caused by industrialized meat production, as well as several strains of antibiotic resistant bacteria. Much more dangerous to the average American than smoking.
I'm very conservative myself but that conservatism has nothing to do with modern politics; which is mostly an orgy of selfishness, whatever the political affiliation.
However, most criticizing you don't know about the meat industry's abuses and they are hostile to you strictly for political reasons.
If most non-vegans had to mind their own bloody business of eating meat, they'd stop eating meat.0 -
Golly what a grump.Back in my vegetarian days people made such a big deal out of not eating meat, especially bacon. I never understood it either.
How sick do you get of people asking you where you get you protein and iron from?
Isn't it your chance to show someone another way of eating? Seems like an honest enough question, protein is important.
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I would never get mad at someone because they are vegan, but I expect the same in return, don't get mad at me for eating meat.0
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Justygirl77 wrote: »
Golly what a grump.Back in my vegetarian days people made such a big deal out of not eating meat, especially bacon. I never understood it either.
How sick do you get of people asking you where you get you protein and iron from?
Isn't it your chance to show someone another way of eating? Seems like an honest enough question, protein is important.
I didn't find that to be a grumpy response. I'm assuming you know meat is not your only source for protein.
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Not meant to be a grumpy response at all. It's just annoying. How would meat eaters feel if a vegan walked around and asked them where they were getting their vitamin a, vitamin b, etc. Its just an overall rude annoying question.0
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Maybe they're worried you're judging them and feel guilty when socilizing with a vegan. Or maybe they're just pushy oppinionated jerks...I would not know as I've never felt the need to judge a vegan...more meat (and milk and eggs) for me!0
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*political stuff I don't care anything about*
Not sure what you read into my post but it had nothing whatsoever to do with what I said. Unless someone is asking for another person's opinion about what kinds of food they eat, or they are getting medical advice from their doctor or dietician, it is NOBODY'S business what anybody chooses to eat.
If someone made a comment about my food choices without being asked their opinion, I'd simply give them a glare and ask them why they felt it necessary to comment on something that doesn't concern them. I don't care if they are vegan, or eat hamburgers and twinkies all day. None of my business. Unless I am asked.
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Atleast you get vegan powers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯0
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Who cares what people think? What you think is what matters. Tell them to mind their own bloody business.
It's mainly because vegans are strongly associated with the extreme left politically and well, the extreme-left's behavior can seem rather treacherous at times. As the extreme right can seem to be warmongers although truthfully, there are no extreme rightwing politicians anymore. Politics now, of whatever affiliation, is a race to see how duplicitously patronizing they can be and not get caught. Household and government deficits don't arise from saying no.
I became vegan because I found out via the HSUS.org how abusive the big business of industrialized animal husbandry is. I share my HSUS.org Facebook posts to my friends all the time. Some have become much more cautious with trusting industrialized farming.
When the subject of veganism comes up I simply say the truth, I am vegan because big business is mean to those animals. And after I say that, there is nothing left to discuss really.
It wasn't even difficult to quit meat, it's not like it actually tastes good. I've heard enough talk and my own taste for over 45 years to know that what people like about meat is the blood and the fat - that is the high salt in the blood and the fat in the meat. Well, just buy a tub of margarine and a box of Morton salt and you're set without all the animal abuse. Or self-abuse if you know what those meats have been pumped with. It's a lot cheaper and healthier too. There's not a doubt most sick time and cancers in America are caused by industrialized meat production, as well as several strains of antibiotic resistant bacteria. Much more dangerous to the average American than smoking.
I'm very conservative myself but that conservatism has nothing to do with modern politics; which is mostly an orgy of selfishness, whatever the political affiliation.
However, most criticizing you don't know about the meat industry's abuses and they are hostile to you strictly for political reasons.
If most non-vegans had to mind their own bloody business of eating meat, they'd stop eating meat.
OP, you asked why, and this wall of text is why. SOME vegans (as well as some people in other lifestyles) feel the need to shove their belief down your throat, or find some conspiracy theory as to why the world is "against" them.
Personally, I don't care if you're a vegan, vegetarian, or if you live on a diet of dirt. Do what you want to do. If people want to know more about your lifestyle, they'll ask. If they get butthurt after you tell them your SOLICITED reasons, then they're the jerks. However, if you're one of the ones who goes on a rant when no-one asks, you're the jerk.
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I've never met a vegan who didn't try to make me feel bad for eating meat.0
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It's like crossfitters, it's not so much what they do here, but a lot of us have run into that outspoken annoying behavior (that is stereotyped of them) IRL.
It's not really fair to everyone, but it's why it happens.
Also, just expressing being full on vegan implies a judgment, and that makes some uncomfortable.
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