Vegan hate
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My drummer is/was (not sure) a vegan. He made some amazing freaking chili by substituting sweet potatoes for meat. I have no problem with vegans.
I do, however, have a problem with *kitten*. And there are high concentrations of those in just about every group you come across. Vegans are no exception.0 -
My drummer is/was (not sure) a vegan. He made some amazing freaking chili by substituting sweet potatoes for meat. I have no problem with vegans.
I do, however, have a problem with *kitten*. And there are high concentrations of those in just about every group you come across. Vegans are no exception.
did you just call everyone an *kitten*?
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Vegetarians hear this all the time, normally by people who would flip out if I beheaded some puppies in their back yard, yet they carelessly behead millions of innocent blades of grass each week as they mow the yard. Same thing, right?
Seriously, I beleive that a pig or cow or chicken has awareness of what is happening to it, can feel fear and pain, can form social bonds, can suffer. I'm not persuaded that harming a being like this is the same as cutting off a head of broccoli. Plants are amazing and complex living things, but I don't believe broccoli has that ability to be self aware and to feel pain. If some day I prove to be wrong, maybe I can be a fruitatarian.
Regardless, I am still doing more good for the plants by not eating animals, since a lot of plants are grown each year to feed the herbivores that humans mostly eat. More plants died in the making of your steak than will die in the making of my salad....I'm just cutting out the middleman (middle-cow?)
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My drummer is/was (not sure) a vegan. He made some amazing freaking chili by substituting sweet potatoes for meat. I have no problem with vegans.
I do, however, have a problem with *kitten*. And there are high concentrations of those in just about every group you come across. Vegans are no exception.
Bulgar wheat in chili is the bomb. Similar texture to ground meat and really gives some bulk to the chili (and I'm an omnivore). Also, the best chili is made with real chilies and not just generic "Chili powder".0 -
Man, and I thought I was old for knowing that's Dorothy!emmydoodles83 wrote: »salembambi wrote: »_Captivated_ wrote: »My animals live very, very happy lives, they are very well cared for and I do not cause them any pain or suffering, ever. They are loved in life... and in death.
P.S. I lived the vegetarian lifestyle for 5 years.
lol
Maude was always so judgmental.
Hey hey hey there mister, that is Dorothy Zbornak!!!!!!
I'm old.
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My drummer is/was (not sure) a vegan. He made some amazing freaking chili by substituting sweet potatoes for meat. I have no problem with vegans.
I do, however, have a problem with *kitten*. And there are high concentrations of those in just about every group you come across. Vegans are no exception.
did you just call everyone an *kitten*?
Well, I for one am an *kitten*.
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obligatory Swanson...
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Docbanana2002 wrote: »
Vegetarians hear this all the time, normally by people who would flip out if I beheaded some puppies in their back yard, yet they carelessly behead millions of innocent blades of grass each week as they mow the yard. Same thing, right?
Seriously, I beleive that a pig or cow or chicken has awareness of what is happening to it, can feel fear and pain, can form social bonds, can suffer. I'm not persuaded that harming a being like this is the same as cutting off a head of broccoli. Plants are amazing and complex living things, but I don't believe broccoli has that ability to be self aware and to feel pain. If some day I prove to be wrong, maybe I can be a fruitatarian. Regardless, I am still doing more good for the plants by not eating animals, since a lot of plants are grown each year to feed the herbivores that humans mostly eat. More plants died in the making of your steak than will die in the making of my salad....I'm just cutting out the middleman (middle-cow?)
I love a good salad with my steak.0 -
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jennifer_417 wrote: »
Man, and I thought I was old for knowing that's Dorothy!emmydoodles83 wrote: »salembambi wrote: »_Captivated_ wrote: »My animals live very, very happy lives, they are very well cared for and I do not cause them any pain or suffering, ever. They are loved in life... and in death.
P.S. I lived the vegetarian lifestyle for 5 years.
lol
Maude was always so judgmental.
Hey hey hey there mister, that is Dorothy Zbornak!!!!!!
I'm old.
You're a young old. She played Maude just a few years before she played Dorthy. lol
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DawnieB1977 wrote: »
Me too! Same exact story, only she doesn't post it on Facebook.
Now she is going back to vegetarianism. And then I'm sure veganism. I'm pretty sure this is going to be a lifelong cycle.
I love her to death, but I have to eyeroll.0 -
horrorghoul wrote: »Why do people get so mad when they find out that I am vegan? Like they get really mad and tell me that people were meant to eat meat. My being vegan only comes out if I am having to order food.
Why does it come up when you order food? It doesn't have to. You just ... order food ...0 -
Every vegan I met would always comment when I eat meat or making some type gagging noise!!!
Me I don't give a crap what you eat!!!0 -
Docbanana2002 wrote: »
Vegetarians hear this all the time, normally by people who would flip out if I beheaded some puppies in their back yard, yet they carelessly behead millions of innocent blades of grass each week as they mow the yard. Same thing, right?
Seriously, I beleive that a pig or cow or chicken has awareness of what is happening to it, can feel fear and pain, can form social bonds, can suffer. I'm not persuaded that harming a being like this is the same as cutting off a head of broccoli. Plants are amazing and complex living things, but I don't believe broccoli has that ability to be self aware and to feel pain. If some day I prove to be wrong, maybe I can be a fruitatarian. Regardless, I am still doing more good for the plants by not eating animals, since a lot of plants are grown each year to feed the herbivores that humans mostly eat. More plants died in the making of your steak than will die in the making of my salad....I'm just cutting out the middleman (middle-cow?)
I guess if that makes you feel better.
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In my experience, vegans tend to be self righteous and preach about their lifestyle. Vegetarians, on the other hand, announce that "I don't eat food from animals" and leave it at that. Give me a vegetarian over a vegan any time.0
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I'm vegan! Yay first vegan I found on here 0
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I have a friend who was vegan for a while. She was always posting anti meat eating, animal cruelty stuff on Facebook and going out for lunch with her was a real pain. Then she went back to eating meat lol.
If you're tired of vegetarians/vegans judging you, rest assured that we judge your apostate friend more. LOL just kidding... sorta. But I also have some sympathy, in that it is a major life change and people try and fail at being vegans/vegetarians for a lot of the same reasons that people try and fail at weight loss efforts. They throw themselves into it suddenly and with a passion, vow to change everything about themselves at once without doing any actual research on how to do that in a nutritionally sound way, and end up crashing and burning when their old habits and temptations start to show back up or when they start physically feeling like crap. Both with my weight loss (110 pounds and counting) and my transition to vegetarian and now to vegan I have taken things fairly slowly and incrementally, focusing on one little piece at a time and on making a permanent and healthy life change... and it is still hard. And old habits want to creep back in the form of cheese pizza or something like that. It take some discipline.
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We live in a society (if you're in America) where people are supposed to be able to do what they believe in. This means you are allowed to believe in whatever religion you want, have whatever political beliefs that you want, and be able to live the lifestyles that you want, as long as you aren't infringing on the rights of others.
This goes for everyone. If you're vegan, good for you, and no one should judge you. If you're gay, good for you, no one should judge you.
And if you want to eat a triple baconator with cheese, good for you, no one should judge you.
I don't think it's right to judge someone's food choices for any reason. People will always have a hard time realizing that not everyone thinks the same way or has the same morals.0 -
MindySaysWhaaat wrote: »We live in a society (if you're in America) where people are supposed to be able to do what they believe in. This means you are allowed to believe in whatever religion you want, have whatever political beliefs that you want, and be able to live the lifestyles that you want, as long as you aren't infringing on the rights of others.
This goes for everyone. If you're vegan, good for you, and no one should judge you. If you're gay, good for you, no one should judge you.
And if you want to eat a triple baconator with cheese, good for you, no one should judge you.
I don't think it's right to judge someone's food choices for any reason. People will always have a hard time realizing that not everyone thinks the same way or has the same morals.
You had me at, 'triple baconator'.
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Every vegan I met would always comment when I eat meat or making some type gagging noise!!!
Me I don't give a crap what you eat!!!
take out the word EVERY, you know good and well that you wouldn't know someone was vegan unless they told you, so you can't with 100% surety say EVERY vegan you met did this, because you wouldn't know unless they told you. Just like you can't say every gay person you've met because not everyone advertises they are gay. Also I am not Vegan, I just try to be fair to others and not prejudge based on a few.
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_Captivated_ wrote: »I raise adorable little goats to eat. They ARE tasty. As well as the chickens. And deer. And Turkey...
Meet Dinner. :-)
MMmmmm, goat, hubby made a fantastic recipe with goat meat several years ago. 0 -
So I've noticed
Nice to see there are non vegans who don't! 0 -
Usually people are fine when they learn I'm vegetarian. The problem and tension rise up when they ask why.
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Docbanana2002 wrote: »
Vegetarians hear this all the time, normally by people who would flip out if I beheaded some puppies in their back yard, yet they carelessly behead millions of innocent blades of grass each week as they mow the yard. Same thing, right?
Seriously, I beleive that a pig or cow or chicken has awareness of what is happening to it, can feel fear and pain, can form social bonds, can suffer. I'm not persuaded that harming a being like this is the same as cutting off a head of broccoli. Plants are amazing and complex living things, but I don't believe broccoli has that ability to be self aware and to feel pain. If some day I prove to be wrong, maybe I can be a fruitatarian. Regardless, I am still doing more good for the plants by not eating animals, since a lot of plants are grown each year to feed the herbivores that humans mostly eat. More plants died in the making of your steak than will die in the making of my salad....I'm just cutting out the middleman (middle-cow?)
I guess if that makes you feel better.
No, it doesn't really. I'm not the one allegedly worried about the feelings of plants. I'm just saying that if the people who harass me about "Oh the plants" really meant that then they would be happy to know that I am saving more plants on a plant-based diet. Not that they really do care--most of them anyway. Most are just trying to find a way to portray me as a hypocrite.
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Docbanana2002 wrote: »Docbanana2002 wrote: »
Vegetarians hear this all the time, normally by people who would flip out if I beheaded some puppies in their back yard, yet they carelessly behead millions of innocent blades of grass each week as they mow the yard. Same thing, right?
Seriously, I beleive that a pig or cow or chicken has awareness of what is happening to it, can feel fear and pain, can form social bonds, can suffer. I'm not persuaded that harming a being like this is the same as cutting off a head of broccoli. Plants are amazing and complex living things, but I don't believe broccoli has that ability to be self aware and to feel pain. If some day I prove to be wrong, maybe I can be a fruitatarian. Regardless, I am still doing more good for the plants by not eating animals, since a lot of plants are grown each year to feed the herbivores that humans mostly eat. More plants died in the making of your steak than will die in the making of my salad....I'm just cutting out the middleman (middle-cow?)
I guess if that makes you feel better.
No, it doesn't really. I'm not the one allegedly worried about the feelings of plants. I'm just saying that if the people who harass me about "Oh the plants" really meant that then they would be happy to know that I am saving more plants on a plant-based diet. Not that they really do care--most of them anyway. Most are just trying to find a way to portray me as a hypocrite.
But see, that's where my thinking goes. Not towards you, but someone preaches at me about eating a living being when they themselves turn around and eat a living being but it's okay because they believe that what they're eating doesn't feel pain.0 -
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There actually have been reports (I haven't validated them personally) that seem to suggest that vegetarian and vegan lifestyles can contribute to more animal deaths by acre. Cultivating plants can cause the death of many small rodents, for example, during harvest.
But again, I will reiterate that I care not what diet people choose to embrace so long as they don't force their views on me and my diet choices. Unless I am asked for my professional opinion as an RN.0 -
alvina0607 wrote: »Usually people are fine when they learn I'm vegetarian. The problem and tension rise up when they ask why.
I never really understood why people ask for the reasoning unless they want to start a debate. Vegan? Great, we'll find something for you to eat.
Actually, we're running a festival (no vegans have register, but there are several vegetarians). I'm far more annoyed by the people who under food restrictions list a whole host of things they don't like to eat (onions, mushrooms, etc) as opposed to the vegetarians of the guy deathly allergic to nuts...0
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