Bread??
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mwebster11 wrote: »
I don't eat it.Im doing a low carb meal program, so breads, pastas, potatoes, and rice r not on my menu.I keep my carbs to less than 100 grams.carbs make you fat.Silversparkle13 wrote: »Whats people's views on bread and weightloss.. Some people say stay clear etc.. Any thoughts?
Calorie surplus makes you fat , not carbs ..0 -
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Well all, i decided to do a two day experiment, yesterday i had 4 dinner rolls and a sandwich with wheat bread and subway the day before for lunch and a hamburger. Two days ago i was 178 and today was 175. So apparently, bread turbo charges my metabolism. Oh and btw i pretty much have a p28 protein bagel with peanut butter daily.0
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Have you ever considered that you might have an allergy to wheat or something. Generally, pain for a few days after could indicate something isnt working.I love bread. I mean LOVE but I always feel crappy after eating it. For about a day or two... I still lose weight but do not lose AS MUCH as I do when I keep my bread intake low. That's MY body... I have no insulin issues.
It's so strange to me that folks here really expect everyone to have the same exact results. Like there's no variation in how different bodies process foods?
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MrM, I log everything I eat and burn. I do this for me, not for you or other members.0
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Well all, i decided to do a two day experiment, yesterday i had 4 dinner rolls and a sandwich with wheat bread and subway the day before for lunch and a hamburger. Two days ago i was 178 and today was 175. So apparently, bread turbo charges my metabolism. Oh and btw i pretty much have a p28 protein bagel with peanut butter daily.
Well that settles it. I'm going to eat that tomorrow!
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Good job psule.0
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Rather childish MrM. My diary is open.0
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Sure MrM. That is what I said.0
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stevencloser wrote: »donjtomasco wrote: »Yes maid, people added the water weight part after my points were clearly made and my personal lunch study was set to begin. You fail to acknowledge what was said before this. I think you wear rose colored glasses.....
SLLrunner on page 2 asked you if you think bread is going to make you gain fat or water weight. I think you're thinking wrong.
Indeed I did.
Don, the part I don't think you understand is that not all weight is created equal.0 -
No Runner, I clearly do understand. And when you yourself take things out of context to hear what you want to hear or to make an unrelated self serving point, this is the result.0
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Bambi can enter whenever she likes. You don't like it because she thinks you're wrong, too. You're not just a little wrong, you're epic levels of crazy wrong. You gained water weight. If you lost real weight in the past week, that meal did not wipe it out, it's just being masked by water weight. They're two different things and it doesn't matter how much you ignore that fact. Facts don't cease being facts just because you don't believe them.
I'm confused, what is "real weight" ? Isn't weight the number shown on the scale, if that number went up wouldn't that indicate his weight increased?donjtomasco wrote: »+++++++(what barber said)......careful barber, you ate about to get attacked.....
Barber,
These things make the numbers on the scale go up:- Water retention- this is a natural fluctuation and generally disappears within a few days.
- Fat gains- you are eating an excess of food, therefore you gain weight. You get bigger with this.
- Muscle gains- you are eating an excess of food but you eat it because you do a progressive weight lifting program. If you're a guy, you generally get bigger, but if you're a girl you generally get smaller.
Other than this, weight fluctuations are normal, as weight loss is not linear.
Personally, I think the only thing that slows down weight loss is eating too much food in general.0 -
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Well all, i decided to do a two day experiment, yesterday i had 4 dinner rolls and a sandwich with wheat bread and subway the day before for lunch and a hamburger. Two days ago i was 178 and today was 175. So apparently, bread turbo charges my metabolism. Oh and btw i pretty much have a p28 protein bagel with peanut butter daily.
That's it, I'm having six pieces of French toast in the morning!
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donjtomasco wrote: »No Runner, I clearly do understand. And when you yourself take things out of context to hear what you want to hear or to make an unrelated self serving point, this is the result.
Mmmm.....nice try.
I took nothing out of context.
No, you clearly do not understand that water fluctuation is normal and is not a slow down in weight loss. Eating an excess is what causes weight loss to slow down.
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MrM, try playing and toying with others. Your bait shows the shiny hook you wrapped it around.0
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Yes Runner, well done. You finally repeated my original very simple point. That took a painfully long time for you to get there, but well done finally.0
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And French toast sounds good for breakfast tomorrow, with oatmeal and turkey bacon. And coffee. My wrap for lunch today was tasty. Slowly working my way back.0
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donjtomasco wrote: »Yes Runner, well done. You finally repeated my original very simple point. That took a painfully long time for you to get there, but well done finally.
Nice try, again remember it's all recorded here. Your original point was:donjtomasco wrote: »Not fat gain. A slow down in weight loss. I guess an effect on metabolism. But I am just guessing.
A+ for effort, though.
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But maid, it does no good if you are selective in what you pull out to quote me on, and out of sequence. But, keep working on it. I actually made it quite simpler then you are trying to complicate this.0
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donjtomasco wrote: »Yes Runner, well done. You finally repeated my original very simple point. That took a painfully long time for you to get there, but well done finally.
ThisThese things make the numbers on the scale go up:
Water retention- this is a natural fluctuation and generally disappears within a few days.
Fat gains- you are eating an excess of food, therefore you gain weight. You get bigger with this.
Muscle gains- you are eating an excess of food but you eat it because you do a progressive weight lifting program. If you're a guy, you generally get bigger, but if you're a girl you generally get smaller.
Other than this, weight fluctuations are normal, as weight loss is not linear.
Personally, I think the only thing that slows down weight loss is eating too much food in general
or this?Mmmm.....nice try.
I took nothing out of context.
No, you clearly do not understand that water fluctuation is normal and is not a slow down in weight loss. Eating an excess is what causes weight loss to slow down.
Because, really, you have been arguing against these very things.
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Okay Runner. If you think so.0
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MrM, go try and bait and hook others. Not happening here. Just dieting, trying to learn more and get healthier and stronger for myself. 0
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greenlizard72 wrote: »greenlizard72 wrote: »In no way am I an expert, quite the opposite. That said, I have eliminated bread and white rice completely. I adhere to the eat less then you burn concept, but for me the lack of gluten and decrease in sugar (bread) and the related insulin impacting effects make sense to me. I am having success with this method.
The method you are using is cico and eliminating carbs has zero point zero percent to do with it
The fear that strikes in people when they think of insulin. But they don't know what foods really impact insulin and to what level. It's just insulin = devil. I am not talking about diabetics.
Ohhhhhh noooooooooooooo the insulins!!!!!
Laugh it up fur ball. Seriously though, for me cico is not the end all be all. It's the foundation and yeah, it has to be followed. But, our bodies are pretty awesome machines and like a machine, the better fuel and fluids we give it, the better it will run. I only have so many calories a day, so I want to spend them on nutritious food as much as possible. I think bread takes up a lot of empty calories. Each to their own though. I see many people saying they eat bread and have awesome success.
As to the "evil" insulin, my understanding is sugar and those foods that break down quickly into sugar like refined wheat, increase insulin levels in the blood stream leading ultimately to the increased storage of fat. Again, I'm just starting to learn this stuff, so please correct me if I am wrong. I'm more interested in learning truth than being right. I try to get my info from science based sources like khan academy.
And I didn't say carbs were bad.
If you're going to quote Star Wars please get it right
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