I'm mearly a beggar...
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nvmd - not worth giving them the attention.0
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stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »It's okay Sara he/she is wasting his time failing at trolling. Whilst I'm ignoring. Thank you for all your kind words you've been ever so insightful. If someone can help me about my cheat day. I'll be all set on my 3rd attempt at my fitness goal. My phone is dying so I can't respond. Again Gansamida!
Good call!!
Anyway, If you want to have a higher calorie day, I would still keep it under control - say have a 2,300 calorie target just for that one day. 'Cheat' days should not be about eating everything without regard - they should be used as a day you can be a little less restrictive - it helps timing them with days you are more likely to have trouble adhering - for example, at weekends if you go out to dinner, brunch or round friends. It will slow your losses a tad but could also make it more sustainable and less of a burden.
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stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »Charlie thanks for the advice!! I think I'll stick to 2 hours. Because I don't want to slow down. I've already adapted to it. And I don't want to lose my endurance. Plus I think it's kind of cool that I can exercise for that long. If I eat 1800 calories. Exercise 2 hours and don't lose weight I'll slow down then. I'll just have to monitor my weight for two weeks. Unless someone can convince me other wise. (Not that you have too)
Give yourself some rest days - it will be beneficial in the long run.0 -
stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »Okay I'm reading everything everyone is saying. Gosh this is great advice!! (Most of it) okay so to bring it home. I set my active level to very active because I kick *kitten* at the gym. I should still eat half of those calories I burn. In order to lose weight. So quantitively. How much should be my deficit. Also I do restrict saturated fat. Only because I have hereditary high cholesterol. That's why.
When you set you activity level in MFP, it should not include exercise, only daily activity. Then exercise calories are added in. If you included how often you work out in your activity level, you should not eat back those calories!
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stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »999tiger you need to chill. I don't need your negativity. Again, "expectations" are subjective. My goal and desires are not going to be the same as yours. I wasn't thinking I was going to lose 30 pounds in a month. That's UNREALISTIC. 20 pounds in 2 months is not unrealistic. But anyway I'm getting great advice so meh.
Actually it is unrealistic, so her comment was right on, whether you liked it or not.
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OP, I think you're confusing objectivity with negativity. 999tiger is just saying it like it is. 20 pounds in 2 months IS a very aggressive weight loss goal. The average person at home with 30 pounds to lose (not on The Biggest Loser) would be hard pressed to drop 2.5 pounds every week.
You can "desire" to lose 2.5 pounds a week but is it something you can sustain over the next 8 weeks? I'm losing 1 pound a week and it's a real challenge. I need a 500 calorie deficit each day to stay on that pace. To lose 2.5 pounds a week, I'd have to maintain a 1250 calorie deficit EVERY day.
I'm not telling you to chill, but slow down, think this through and be patient with the process. Setting the bar too high is a recipe for disappointment and failure.0 -
OP, one of the reasons that people are concerned with rapid weight loss (rightly so), is that, among other things, you run a greater risk of LBM loss the greater the deficit it. When someone is very heavy, that risk is low and in any event, the health benefits often outweigh the downside. For people who do not have huge amounts to lose, as is your case, then the risk of being heavier than desires is just so much lower and the trade off is not worth it - losing muscle mass means that you are not losing all fat, you are less likely to be happy with your body composition when at goal and will actually have to eat less to maintain. The leaner you are the greater the risk of LBM loss in any event.
There are a lot of other reasons (adherence, nutrient sufficiency for hormone balance and health etc), but that is one of them.
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I'm hoping she means 20lbs total weight loss (i.e. another 8 on top of what she's already lost).stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »No I'm going to lose 20 pounds by May 16th. Maybe even more. I'm going to eat 1860 and continue kicking *kitten* at the gym. And see where I get. I already look "good" but I still have fat deposits so now that I'm eating healthier. Eating enough. That fat should get lost.
Well, that's not a healthy mindset. So you goal for the next month is 5 lbs per week and you don't care what people think about that so basically you just want people to tell you how to do it. Well that's really not how it works around here. Those that don't find that to be a healthy approach will voice their opinion. And those that encourage you and advise you to basically starve yourself, because that's what its going to take, probably don't know what they are talking about anyway.
If not, I dunno. I thought we were getting somewhere...
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Trolllllll in the dungeon!0
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stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »honestly don't think there is anything wrong with shooting high.
Why yes there is. You will ruin your body. Permanent stable weight loss is based on persistence not effort. The harder you work now the less progress you will see.And it's a reasonable amount of time to lose weight.
Whose reason? You, a "mere" beggar with a king of a story to tell? You set up an unreasonable expectation and you are beating up your body for not going along with the program. Slow down and learn to listen to your body.
Increase your calorie intake to 1,200 calories a day, plus half your calories back from exercise.
Weigh your food.
Do not step on the scale for two months and take your waist measurement only once a week.
Reach your macros as set by MFP.
I suggest in Notes you track your mood (1-10) totally optimistic to totally discouraged to see if you can learn anything from your mood patterns.
During exercise rate your pain from 1-10 and if you go over 8, dial it back or stop.
This way you will have a body that will respond to your demands. But you will be a reasonable and kind owner of your body, K? K?0 -
You are in college! If you don't think you're getting the right advise double check what you hear! Your college library + Google are your friends!
Here are a couple of questions you may want to ask:
How many dieters manage to keep off the weight that they lose?
What % of the weight they lose do they keep off?
Are there any lessons to be found from the experiences?
The answers may then lead you into thinking about the following issues:
preservation of lean muscle mass
management of adaptive thermogenesis
regain of water weight and reverse dieting out of a deficit
appropriate mix of diet and exercise and macros to eat
... and I am sure a heck of a lot more!
Good luck!
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I'm hoping she means 20lbs total weight loss (i.e. another 8 on top of what she's already lost).stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »No I'm going to lose 20 pounds by May 16th. Maybe even more. I'm going to eat 1860 and continue kicking *kitten* at the gym. And see where I get. I already look "good" but I still have fat deposits so now that I'm eating healthier. Eating enough. That fat should get lost.
Well, that's not a healthy mindset. So you goal for the next month is 5 lbs per week and you don't care what people think about that so basically you just want people to tell you how to do it. Well that's really not how it works around here. Those that don't find that to be a healthy approach will voice their opinion. And those that encourage you and advise you to basically starve yourself, because that's what its going to take, probably don't know what they are talking about anyway.
If not, I dunno. I thought we were getting somewhere...
If it is the latter, this is the second thread in as many days where the OP wants to lose 20lbs in four weeks...
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stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »Gosh really?! I have to 1800 to lose weight? And if I burn off calories at the gym I have to eat half of that too. Some please help me understand. Obviously I'm ignorant (to some degree) I thought in order to lose weight you should have a deficit. In order to maintain weight you should eat exactly at your specific maintenance level.
1800 isn't your TDEE it's your calorie goal with a deficit. You set mfp (if using that method) to the level of your everyday activity, not including exercise. That number is your goal with the deficit, if you exercise and add the burn to mfp, you have a bigger deficit so eating excerise calories back keeps you at the original deficit.
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stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »I understand Sara and I will try and clarify. It was really inconsistent to be honest with you. I can't give you an exact range of how aggressive my workouts were. I was just starting out. I know that I did at least 20 mins of cardio every time I went. I also switched up cardio equipment because I learned that I can't always do my favorite exercise (or the easiest) because my body will remember it and I won't lose weight. I also did some strength training that day until I was tired. Yes this was in the time period I lost 12 pounds. I restricted many foods. Only vegetables and meat. Not even fruits because I was scared of sugar. Now I eat Greek yogurt, low sugar fruits like apples and oranges, chicken only and egg whites plenty of protein shakes. which I mix with water. And it's the healthiest version I can get. I eat while wheat bread, and pasta too. Because of all the cardio I need carbs. I pretty much eat the same thing everyday. Also beans I love beans so so much. I did measure my food but not with a scale but measuring cups.
No. That is simply not the case.
In reference to something you said in another post, measuring with cups or spoons is NOT the same as weighing. Weighing is something which involves a scale.
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I'm hoping she means 20lbs total weight loss (i.e. another 8 on top of what she's already lost).stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »No I'm going to lose 20 pounds by May 16th. Maybe even more. I'm going to eat 1860 and continue kicking *kitten* at the gym. And see where I get. I already look "good" but I still have fat deposits so now that I'm eating healthier. Eating enough. That fat should get lost.
Well, that's not a healthy mindset. So you goal for the next month is 5 lbs per week and you don't care what people think about that so basically you just want people to tell you how to do it. Well that's really not how it works around here. Those that don't find that to be a healthy approach will voice their opinion. And those that encourage you and advise you to basically starve yourself, because that's what its going to take, probably don't know what they are talking about anyway.
If not, I dunno. I thought we were getting somewhere...
Maybe she did mean 20 total so 8 more by May 18th. I guess she can clarify if she'd like to.
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My understanding was 20 in 2 months and it may have been a typo to say 20 in 1 month. Its possible but a bit aggressive considering the ops circumstances, knowledge of dieting, age, amount she has to lose etc. That would require the creation of a minimum 70,000 calorie deficit and your body to co operate.0
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I'm hoping she means 20lbs total weight loss (i.e. another 8 on top of what she's already lost).stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »No I'm going to lose 20 pounds by May 16th. Maybe even more. I'm going to eat 1860 and continue kicking *kitten* at the gym. And see where I get. I already look "good" but I still have fat deposits so now that I'm eating healthier. Eating enough. That fat should get lost.
Well, that's not a healthy mindset. So you goal for the next month is 5 lbs per week and you don't care what people think about that so basically you just want people to tell you how to do it. Well that's really not how it works around here. Those that don't find that to be a healthy approach will voice their opinion. And those that encourage you and advise you to basically starve yourself, because that's what its going to take, probably don't know what they are talking about anyway.
If not, I dunno. I thought we were getting somewhere...
Maybe she did mean 20 total so 8 more by May 18th. I guess she can clarify if she'd like to.
Her profile says she has lost 0 of 30 pounds, so the whole thing is quite unclear.
I'm sorry what was that? My old flabby skin was covering my eyes.
Seriously dude?
1. That was several days ago.
2. This is an entirely different topic.
3. I WASN'T ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT YOU.
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stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »I care more about the weight on the scale. Sorry I'm superficial. I don't like the idea of being 180 that's too high. It doesn't matter if I'm gaining muscle if there are still fat deposits around them. And I refuse to buy clothes that fit this body I have now. I want to get back to fitting in my old clothes. I also understand the calories in calories out idea. That's why I only ate 1000 calories. No matter what I've always had a deficit. Which I thought was the goal. What do you guys suggest. Also the reason I upset about losing 12 pounds. Is because everyone else on Pälëö or Atkins have lost way more than that. Even people on regular diets lose more than I did. I still think it was a failure. Even though I'm 12 pounds lighter sure. But I thought even atleast 20 would have been a win. They say you can lose 2 pounds a week safely. So atleast I should of lost 16. At least.
No they have not.
You have false expectations based on what you think other people are seeing.
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Mmm. To all those asking. I went from 189 to 177. Now I'm 180. I didn't log it into MFP. I thought I was losing more weight than I actually did. And this is kind of a stupid reason. The weight scale at my gym I read it wrong. So that's why I logged it in incorrectly and thought I loss more than I actually did.
To those who have their panties in a wad. I can accept opinions but I will glady reject and ignore those who came here miserable and wanted to include negativism.
Thank you Sara.and everyone else who helped.
Also. I still don't understand the calorie. The 1800 doesn't include exercise so that means if I exercise I'll have to eat half of that back?0 -
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stephaniechukwu31 wrote: »Mmm. To all those asking. I went from 189 to 177. Now I'm 180. I didn't log it into MFP. I thought I was losing more weight than I actually did. And this is kind of a stupid reason. The weight scale at my gym I read it wrong. So that's why I logged it in incorrectly and thought I loss more than I actually did.
To those who have their panties in a wad. I can accept opinions but I will glady reject and ignore those who came here miserable and wanted to include negativism.
Thank you Sara.and everyone else who helped.
Also. I still don't understand the calorie. The 1800 doesn't include exercise so that means if I exercise I'll have to eat half of that back?
You are getting conflicting methods here. Both are valid, but a slightly different way of looking at them.
My advice was to eat to a flat 1,800 calories, scale back on your exercise a bit and have a higher calorie day once a week of about 2,300 calories (as you mentioned you wanted a 'cheat' day). My recommendation was not to eat exercise calories back.0 -
Oh I didn't see the question.
Oh yes! I plan on losing 20 pounds in 4-5 weeks. Of course. I'm doing it the right way.
Yes it's sustainable its a lifetime commitment. That I'm already use too. I put that in my OP.
If I slow down maybe cut back an hour in exercise that will be when I'm at my goal weight.0 -
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