I'm mearly a beggar...

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  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Tubbs216 wrote: »
    uvi5 wrote: »
    Tubbs216 wrote: »
    TUBBS! I want to be you!!! Oh! You! Please tell me what you did. No I no longer restrict myself. I eat what I like within reason. No candy chips, soda. But I have a freaking sandwich now. I'm not scared of bread anymore. Wow I'm so jealous. I would be in the 150's if I came her earlier!
    Haha! You're funny. You know what? I'm 47. I wish I'd come here when I was 20 and learned that silly restrictive fad diets were unsustainable and made me miserable.

    These days I eat what I want, but a lot less of certain things. I lost a lot initially, but now it's slowed down but I'm not panicking about it. Trust the process - if you consistently eat less than your body burns, you will lose weight.

    Bravo You! Inspiration here :smiley: I'm 47 too. Wish I knew then (when I was younger) what I'm learning now!
    Wow, thanks. I'm embarrassed because I'm now nearly back at the weight I was 2 years ago. In another few months I might be down to where I was 4 years ago. So it's not exactly a triumph!
    I've been a chronic yo-yo'er because I've never properly learned to maintain. That, in my opinion, is the biggest challenge.

    Yes it is. Just make it a bigger one by maintaining it =)
  • stephaniechukwu31
    stephaniechukwu31 Posts: 112 Member
    It's okay Sara he/she is wasting his time failing at trolling. Whilst I'm ignoring. Thank you for all your kind words you've been ever so insightful. If someone can help me about my cheat day. I'll be all set on my 3rd attempt at my fitness goal. My phone is dying so I can't respond. Again Gansamida!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Alright so I selected very active. It outputted 1860. So while I burn 1000 at the gym I should eat back half of those calories. Also can someone explain that to me. Eating at my maintenance level isn't making sense to me. I've always thought to eat at a deficit.

    What did you set your weight loss goal to be - there should have been a drop down you selected a goal from.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    So you have 20lbs to lose and you are going to lose at least 10 of those each month on 1800 calories
    No I'm going to lose 20 pounds by May 16th. Maybe even more. I'm going to eat 1860 and continue kicking ***** at the gym.

    plus have a cheat day and not weigh your food with scales? You should read the link I posted and learn how to do it safely and sustainably. The way most successful dieters lose.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Gosh really?! I have to 1800 to lose weight? And if I burn off calories at the gym I have to eat half of that too. Some please help me understand. Obviously I'm ignorant (to some degree) I thought in order to lose weight you should have a deficit. In order to maintain weight you should eat exactly at your specific maintenance level.

    I was actually suggesting to get just eat 1,800 calories a day, flat and moderate your exercise.

    If you find you are hungry or want a day with higher calories, that's fine - just keep it in check. See how you feel and what your losses trend at. If you are having problems with energy or adherence, you should be able to up it a bit and still lose.

    I maintain on 2,500 calories, and a little lighter than you, quite a bit older and am not active outside my lifting sessions - while none of us are the same, I generally set my intake to somewhere between 1,800 and 2,000 when cutting, depending where I am in the process.
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member
    rockmama72 wrote: »
    Two things: 1000 calories per day is super low and not enough to fuel 2 hours of workouts 5-6 days per week.

    this.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    edited April 2015
    nvmd - not worth giving them the attention.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    It's okay Sara he/she is wasting his time failing at trolling. Whilst I'm ignoring. Thank you for all your kind words you've been ever so insightful. If someone can help me about my cheat day. I'll be all set on my 3rd attempt at my fitness goal. My phone is dying so I can't respond. Again Gansamida!

    Good call!!

    Anyway, If you want to have a higher calorie day, I would still keep it under control - say have a 2,300 calorie target just for that one day. 'Cheat' days should not be about eating everything without regard - they should be used as a day you can be a little less restrictive - it helps timing them with days you are more likely to have trouble adhering - for example, at weekends if you go out to dinner, brunch or round friends. It will slow your losses a tad but could also make it more sustainable and less of a burden.

  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Charlie thanks for the advice!! I think I'll stick to 2 hours. Because I don't want to slow down. I've already adapted to it. And I don't want to lose my endurance. Plus I think it's kind of cool that I can exercise for that long. If I eat 1800 calories. Exercise 2 hours and don't lose weight I'll slow down then. I'll just have to monitor my weight for two weeks. Unless someone can convince me other wise. (Not that you have too)

    Give yourself some rest days - it will be beneficial in the long run.
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    Okay I'm reading everything everyone is saying. Gosh this is great advice!! (Most of it) okay so to bring it home. I set my active level to very active because I kick *kitten* at the gym. I should still eat half of those calories I burn. In order to lose weight. So quantitively. How much should be my deficit. Also I do restrict saturated fat. Only because I have hereditary high cholesterol. That's why.

    When you set you activity level in MFP, it should not include exercise, only daily activity. Then exercise calories are added in. If you included how often you work out in your activity level, you should not eat back those calories!

  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    999tiger you need to chill. I don't need your negativity. Again, "expectations" are subjective. My goal and desires are not going to be the same as yours. I wasn't thinking I was going to lose 30 pounds in a month. That's UNREALISTIC. 20 pounds in 2 months is not unrealistic. But anyway I'm getting great advice so meh. :p


    Actually it is unrealistic, so her comment was right on, whether you liked it or not.

  • amy8400
    amy8400 Posts: 478 Member
    edited April 2015
    OP, I think you're confusing objectivity with negativity. 999tiger is just saying it like it is. 20 pounds in 2 months IS a very aggressive weight loss goal. The average person at home with 30 pounds to lose (not on The Biggest Loser) would be hard pressed to drop 2.5 pounds every week.

    You can "desire" to lose 2.5 pounds a week but is it something you can sustain over the next 8 weeks? I'm losing 1 pound a week and it's a real challenge. I need a 500 calorie deficit each day to stay on that pace. To lose 2.5 pounds a week, I'd have to maintain a 1250 calorie deficit EVERY day.

    I'm not telling you to chill, but slow down, think this through and be patient with the process. Setting the bar too high is a recipe for disappointment and failure.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    OP, one of the reasons that people are concerned with rapid weight loss (rightly so), is that, among other things, you run a greater risk of LBM loss the greater the deficit it. When someone is very heavy, that risk is low and in any event, the health benefits often outweigh the downside. For people who do not have huge amounts to lose, as is your case, then the risk of being heavier than desires is just so much lower and the trade off is not worth it - losing muscle mass means that you are not losing all fat, you are less likely to be happy with your body composition when at goal and will actually have to eat less to maintain. The leaner you are the greater the risk of LBM loss in any event.

    There are a lot of other reasons (adherence, nutrient sufficiency for hormone balance and health etc), but that is one of them.

  • Tubbs216
    Tubbs216 Posts: 6,597 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    No I'm going to lose 20 pounds by May 16th. Maybe even more. I'm going to eat 1860 and continue kicking *kitten* at the gym. And see where I get. I already look "good" but I still have fat deposits so now that I'm eating healthier. Eating enough. That fat should get lost.

    Well, that's not a healthy mindset. So you goal for the next month is 5 lbs per week and you don't care what people think about that so basically you just want people to tell you how to do it. Well that's really not how it works around here. Those that don't find that to be a healthy approach will voice their opinion. And those that encourage you and advise you to basically starve yourself, because that's what its going to take, probably don't know what they are talking about anyway.
    I'm hoping she means 20lbs total weight loss (i.e. another 8 on top of what she's already lost).
    If not, I dunno. I thought we were getting somewhere...
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    Tubbs216 wrote: »
    I thought we were getting somewhere...

    Same, I find this whole thing hard to follow. Perhaps we should abandon thread. :laugh:

  • pensierobello
    pensierobello Posts: 285 Member
    Trolllllll in the dungeon!
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    honestly don't think there is anything wrong with shooting high.

    Why yes there is. You will ruin your body. Permanent stable weight loss is based on persistence not effort. The harder you work now the less progress you will see.
    And it's a reasonable amount of time to lose weight.

    Whose reason? You, a "mere" beggar with a king of a story to tell? You set up an unreasonable expectation and you are beating up your body for not going along with the program. Slow down and learn to listen to your body.

    Increase your calorie intake to 1,200 calories a day, plus half your calories back from exercise.

    Weigh your food.

    Do not step on the scale for two months and take your waist measurement only once a week.

    Reach your macros as set by MFP.

    I suggest in Notes you track your mood (1-10) totally optimistic to totally discouraged to see if you can learn anything from your mood patterns.

    During exercise rate your pain from 1-10 and if you go over 8, dial it back or stop.

    This way you will have a body that will respond to your demands. But you will be a reasonable and kind owner of your body, K? K?
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,131 Member
    You are in college! If you don't think you're getting the right advise double check what you hear! Your college library + Google are your friends!

    Here are a couple of questions you may want to ask:
    How many dieters manage to keep off the weight that they lose?
    What % of the weight they lose do they keep off?
    Are there any lessons to be found from the experiences?

    The answers may then lead you into thinking about the following issues:
    preservation of lean muscle mass
    management of adaptive thermogenesis
    regain of water weight and reverse dieting out of a deficit
    appropriate mix of diet and exercise and macros to eat
    ... and I am sure a heck of a lot more!

    Good luck!

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/PAV8888/view/interesting-links-updates-randomly-741046
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    Tubbs216 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    No I'm going to lose 20 pounds by May 16th. Maybe even more. I'm going to eat 1860 and continue kicking *kitten* at the gym. And see where I get. I already look "good" but I still have fat deposits so now that I'm eating healthier. Eating enough. That fat should get lost.

    Well, that's not a healthy mindset. So you goal for the next month is 5 lbs per week and you don't care what people think about that so basically you just want people to tell you how to do it. Well that's really not how it works around here. Those that don't find that to be a healthy approach will voice their opinion. And those that encourage you and advise you to basically starve yourself, because that's what its going to take, probably don't know what they are talking about anyway.
    I'm hoping she means 20lbs total weight loss (i.e. another 8 on top of what she's already lost).
    If not, I dunno. I thought we were getting somewhere...

    If it is the latter, this is the second thread in as many days where the OP wants to lose 20lbs in four weeks...
  • debrag12
    debrag12 Posts: 1,071 Member
    Gosh really?! I have to 1800 to lose weight? And if I burn off calories at the gym I have to eat half of that too. Some please help me understand. Obviously I'm ignorant (to some degree) I thought in order to lose weight you should have a deficit. In order to maintain weight you should eat exactly at your specific maintenance level.

    1800 isn't your TDEE it's your calorie goal with a deficit. You set mfp (if using that method) to the level of your everyday activity, not including exercise. That number is your goal with the deficit, if you exercise and add the burn to mfp, you have a bigger deficit so eating excerise calories back keeps you at the original deficit.