I'm mearly a beggar...

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  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    I will lose 20 pounds by school ends. If you don't want to help that's fine. And I accept your criticism. But I'm looking for advice on how to do this.

    I don't think I'm drinking enough water. I got my blood work done. After my first attempt at losing weight. Everything was fine expect my cholesterol and I'm dehydrated. Every workout I sit in the sauna for 20 mins. Of course I drink water during and after. But I don't think I drink enough water throughout the day. My mouth is always dry.

    WHY IS EVERYONE BEING SO NICE TO THIS GIRL! YOU SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO IS OBSESSED WITH THE SCALE AND THE NUMBERS ON IT WHETHER YOU'RE HEALTHY OR NOT AND NOBODY HERE THAT REMOTELY CARES FOR YOU WILL HELP YOU DO THAT! YOUR MOUTH IS DRY BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY DEHYDRATED SO YOURE PROBABLY NOT DRINKING ENOUGH WATER AND SITTING IN THE SAUNA ISN'T GOING TO HELP YOU LOSE WEIGHT NEITHER IS A PALEO OR ANY KIND OF DIET! THE REASON YOU GAINED YOUR WEIGHT BACK WHEN YOU CUT CARBS IS BECAUSE FAD DIETS ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE. IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOPE AN EATING DISORDER IT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU KEEP UP THAT MINDSET. IF YOU WANT TO STAY HEALTHY MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY AND LOSE THE WEIGHT AND KEEP IT OFF THEN QUIT THE WHINING AND BRATTY ATTITUDE AND WORK. EAT THE CALORIES YOUR BODY NEEDS AND DONT TRY TO CUT CORNERS.


    GOD MAKES ME SO MAD WHEN PEOPLE ASK FOR HELP THEN TAKE ON THIS BS ATTITUDE

    If by being being nice to her you supporting her idea, I would say that isn't actually happening. The majority of the people have been calling her out from the start. Sara has been more civil about it and has been trying to reason with her because that's how she is and does a better job at being that way than a lot of us do. But I definitely would say most of the people in this thread have been telling the OP her plan is not wise.

    I guess by nice I mean trying to reason with her and not telling her shes bat sh** crazy no I did not mean agreeing with her I read the comments before I posted

    We all have different ways of communicating. The OP is not the only one reading the post.

    Got it I guess I was just emotionally engaged with the op for a minute I am worried about her

    I understand and realize that you are not meaning to be confrontational with other posters, so please take this as just an observation.

    Depending on the OP, 'yelling' at someone is likely to alienate them and they will totally brush off the post. Many posters have their idea completely stuck in their head and will not listen to people telling them not to do it (as we have observed here - and there have been a myriad of different styles of advice/opinion). Even if they take on a small part of what you are saying, its better than taking on nothing. It appears (although we shall see) that the OP has agreed to up her calories and possibly cut back on exercise (and I honestly hope she does). The results will be what they are in the end.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    I am going to have to pay you for doing my research at this rate lol - you are making me lazy =)
    Hey I just joined your MFP group, so just paying ahead :smile:
    I think I recall seeing numbers from 600 to catabolize and up to 2000 to build, and then deciding that 1000 sounded good for my purposes : - )

    Well, I hope you do not try to click the links on the main 'topics' (Important Posts to Read) sticky in the group - I just found out that they do not work and even copy pasting in the url does not work. Its as if the posts have disappeared. I now need to see how/if we can find them. There were dozens of them.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    I will lose 20 pounds by school ends. If you don't want to help that's fine. And I accept your criticism. But I'm looking for advice on how to do this.

    I don't think I'm drinking enough water. I got my blood work done. After my first attempt at losing weight. Everything was fine expect my cholesterol and I'm dehydrated. Every workout I sit in the sauna for 20 mins. Of course I drink water during and after. But I don't think I drink enough water throughout the day. My mouth is always dry.

    WHY IS EVERYONE BEING SO NICE TO THIS GIRL! YOU SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO IS OBSESSED WITH THE SCALE AND THE NUMBERS ON IT WHETHER YOU'RE HEALTHY OR NOT AND NOBODY HERE THAT REMOTELY CARES FOR YOU WILL HELP YOU DO THAT! YOUR MOUTH IS DRY BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY DEHYDRATED SO YOURE PROBABLY NOT DRINKING ENOUGH WATER AND SITTING IN THE SAUNA ISN'T GOING TO HELP YOU LOSE WEIGHT NEITHER IS A PALEO OR ANY KIND OF DIET! THE REASON YOU GAINED YOUR WEIGHT BACK WHEN YOU CUT CARBS IS BECAUSE FAD DIETS ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE. IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOPE AN EATING DISORDER IT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU KEEP UP THAT MINDSET. IF YOU WANT TO STAY HEALTHY MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY AND LOSE THE WEIGHT AND KEEP IT OFF THEN QUIT THE WHINING AND BRATTY ATTITUDE AND WORK. EAT THE CALORIES YOUR BODY NEEDS AND DONT TRY TO CUT CORNERS.


    GOD MAKES ME SO MAD WHEN PEOPLE ASK FOR HELP THEN TAKE ON THIS BS ATTITUDE

    If by being being nice to her you supporting her idea, I would say that isn't actually happening. The majority of the people have been calling her out from the start. Sara has been more civil about it and has been trying to reason with her because that's how she is and does a better job at being that way than a lot of us do. But I definitely would say most of the people in this thread have been telling the OP her plan is not wise.

    I guess by nice I mean trying to reason with her and not telling her shes bat sh** crazy no I did not mean agreeing with her I read the comments before I posted

    Well to a certain extent people will always try to explain why something is a bad idea to the OP. But also keep in mind that a lot of times the posts aren't only for the OP, they are for the people lurking the forum thinking about doing the same thing that are not posting.

    Lol..posted before I read yours and yep.

    We all have different styles and views on how to try to keep the communication useful for people other than the OP.


    That being said, you should have seen last night's fun 'want to 'crash diet' thread. It was highly amusing and people were not going out of their way to be nice as the OP filled the bingo card.

    Man I was obviously roaming the wrong section last night. Actually I was reading a bunch of articles. That's what I get for trying to learn.

    The funniest part was the OP telling me I looked like a dude and that she could give me some beauty tricks to help my self esteem. Lolz were had!
  • nancyjay__
    nancyjay__ Posts: 310 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    I will lose 20 pounds by school ends. If you don't want to help that's fine. And I accept your criticism. But I'm looking for advice on how to do this.

    I don't think I'm drinking enough water. I got my blood work done. After my first attempt at losing weight. Everything was fine expect my cholesterol and I'm dehydrated. Every workout I sit in the sauna for 20 mins. Of course I drink water during and after. But I don't think I drink enough water throughout the day. My mouth is always dry.

    WHY IS EVERYONE BEING SO NICE TO THIS GIRL! YOU SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO IS OBSESSED WITH THE SCALE AND THE NUMBERS ON IT WHETHER YOU'RE HEALTHY OR NOT AND NOBODY HERE THAT REMOTELY CARES FOR YOU WILL HELP YOU DO THAT! YOUR MOUTH IS DRY BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY DEHYDRATED SO YOURE PROBABLY NOT DRINKING ENOUGH WATER AND SITTING IN THE SAUNA ISN'T GOING TO HELP YOU LOSE WEIGHT NEITHER IS A PALEO OR ANY KIND OF DIET! THE REASON YOU GAINED YOUR WEIGHT BACK WHEN YOU CUT CARBS IS BECAUSE FAD DIETS ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE. IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOPE AN EATING DISORDER IT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU KEEP UP THAT MINDSET. IF YOU WANT TO STAY HEALTHY MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY AND LOSE THE WEIGHT AND KEEP IT OFF THEN QUIT THE WHINING AND BRATTY ATTITUDE AND WORK. EAT THE CALORIES YOUR BODY NEEDS AND DONT TRY TO CUT CORNERS.


    GOD MAKES ME SO MAD WHEN PEOPLE ASK FOR HELP THEN TAKE ON THIS BS ATTITUDE

    If by being being nice to her you supporting her idea, I would say that isn't actually happening. The majority of the people have been calling her out from the start. Sara has been more civil about it and has been trying to reason with her because that's how she is and does a better job at being that way than a lot of us do. But I definitely would say most of the people in this thread have been telling the OP her plan is not wise.

    I guess by nice I mean trying to reason with her and not telling her shes bat sh** crazy no I did not mean agreeing with her I read the comments before I posted

    We all have different ways of communicating. The OP is not the only one reading the post.

    Got it I guess I was just emotionally engaged with the op for a minute I am worried about her

    I understand and realize that you are not meaning to be confrontational with other posters, so please take this as just an observation.

    Depending on the OP, 'yelling' at someone is likely to alienate them and they will totally brush off the post. Many posters have their idea completely stuck in their head and will not listen to people telling them not to do it (as we have observed here - and there have been a myriad of different styles of advice/opinion). Even if they take on a small part of what you are saying, its better than taking on nothing. It appears (although we shall see) that the OP has agreed to up her calories and possibly cut back on exercise (and I honestly hope she does). The results will be what they are in the end.

    Well. Hope she learned something from tonight. And I know what you guys are saying hope people thinking of losing unreasonably amounts in unreasonable amounts of time know that it's unreasonable lol. I just let that sentence go where it may.
  • JordisTSM
    JordisTSM Posts: 359 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    nancyjay__ wrote: »
    I will lose 20 pounds by school ends. If you don't want to help that's fine. And I accept your criticism. But I'm looking for advice on how to do this.

    I don't think I'm drinking enough water. I got my blood work done. After my first attempt at losing weight. Everything was fine expect my cholesterol and I'm dehydrated. Every workout I sit in the sauna for 20 mins. Of course I drink water during and after. But I don't think I drink enough water throughout the day. My mouth is always dry.

    WHY IS EVERYONE BEING SO NICE TO THIS GIRL! YOU SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO IS OBSESSED WITH THE SCALE AND THE NUMBERS ON IT WHETHER YOU'RE HEALTHY OR NOT AND NOBODY HERE THAT REMOTELY CARES FOR YOU WILL HELP YOU DO THAT! YOUR MOUTH IS DRY BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY DEHYDRATED SO YOURE PROBABLY NOT DRINKING ENOUGH WATER AND SITTING IN THE SAUNA ISN'T GOING TO HELP YOU LOSE WEIGHT NEITHER IS A PALEO OR ANY KIND OF DIET! THE REASON YOU GAINED YOUR WEIGHT BACK WHEN YOU CUT CARBS IS BECAUSE FAD DIETS ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE. IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOPE AN EATING DISORDER IT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU KEEP UP THAT MINDSET. IF YOU WANT TO STAY HEALTHY MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY AND LOSE THE WEIGHT AND KEEP IT OFF THEN QUIT THE WHINING AND BRATTY ATTITUDE AND WORK. EAT THE CALORIES YOUR BODY NEEDS AND DONT TRY TO CUT CORNERS.


    GOD MAKES ME SO MAD WHEN PEOPLE ASK FOR HELP THEN TAKE ON THIS BS ATTITUDE

    If by being being nice to her you supporting her idea, I would say that isn't actually happening. The majority of the people have been calling her out from the start. Sara has been more civil about it and has been trying to reason with her because that's how she is and does a better job at being that way than a lot of us do. But I definitely would say most of the people in this thread have been telling the OP her plan is not wise.

    I guess by nice I mean trying to reason with her and not telling her shes bat sh** crazy no I did not mean agreeing with her I read the comments before I posted

    Well to a certain extent people will always try to explain why something is a bad idea to the OP. But also keep in mind that a lot of times the posts aren't only for the OP, they are for the people lurking the forum thinking about doing the same thing that are not posting.

    Lol..posted before I read yours and yep.

    We all have different styles and views on how to try to keep the communication useful for people other than the OP.


    That being said, you should have seen last night's fun 'want to 'crash diet' thread. It was highly amusing and people were not going out of their way to be nice as the OP filled the bingo card.

    Man I was obviously roaming the wrong section last night. Actually I was reading a bunch of articles. That's what I get for trying to learn.

    The funniest part was the OP telling me I looked like a dude and that she could give me some beauty tricks to help my self esteem. Lolz were had!

    Wonder what sort of "dudes" Op is hanging out with. You sure as hell don't look like any I've dated...
  • uvi5
    uvi5 Posts: 710 Member

    Well. Hope she learned something from tonight. And I know what you guys are saying hope people thinking of losing unreasonably amounts in unreasonable amounts of time know that it's unreasonable lol. I just let that sentence go where it may.

    Quite reasonably well said :smiley:
  • Retta216
    Retta216 Posts: 6 Member
    I have not read through all the posts but want to add that I had the same problem when I joined a gym and worked with a trainer years ago. Initially I did not lose a thing and was very discouraged. You need to remember that muscle weights more than fat. If you are truly working out 2 hours at the gym you should be measuring yourself. You might be maintaining weight or even gaining as you develop more muscle vs fat. Once I started measuring my progress rather than beating myself up with the scale, I saw results. Two pounds or less weight loss a week is reasonable. If you lose it too fast it will only come back. Diet is a lifestyle, not a temporary fix.
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  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Has anyone asked OP how she has come up with these 1000 calorie gym burns? Is she going by what the machines are spitting out??

    She has entered "very active", i think it was into mfp. How much does she eat on the days she is not very active?? And just because she "thinks" she is very active, does this mean she truly is?
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
    JordisTSM wrote: »
    I believe OP put her activity level as "very active" which gave her around 1,800.

    Thanks jordi, wonder where the number came from and I believe people pointed out the issue of double counting. Its a tough call for 10lbs, which depends how much you have to lose and how much exercise, but the OP is determined and shes an adult, so let her try.
    Id have my reservations on safety and practicality, but she will listens to who she wants to. Go for it.

  • samgamgee
    samgamgee Posts: 398 Member
    OP, I do hope that you don't hurt yourself on this process. Maybe when you don't see the results you predict, you'll come back and re-educate yourself by reading the wise things many people here have to say. I've tried to lose unreasonable amounts of weight before and thought 'oh yeah I'll just be strong willed and it'll work' and guess what? Any weight I did lose went straight back on, cos I wasn't creating sustainable habits and treating my body properly. Since finding MFP and especially the forums I've totally re-educated myself and changed my headspace, I've only lost half a stone so far but I know that by this time next year I'll be at my goal weight and able to maintain it properly. A year isn't that long to wait, if you know you'll be healthy and look great (barring accidents/illnesses, touch wood) for the years ahead. This may fall on deaf ears but if you ever want to do this properly, I hope you'll think of us, plodding away, making progress slowly but steadily and genuinely changing our lives.
  • mrihel6615
    mrihel6615 Posts: 37 Member
    I am only 4'10 and a 119 lbs.
    and I can tell that 1000 usually isn't good for my body.
    Especially if I exercise I try to make sure that I eat 1200-1300 calories.
    The only time I ever eat around 1000 is if I haven't exercised and I'm trying to push through a plateau.
    And I rarely do it even then.
    I know how it can be with wanting the weight gone already.
    I started last year in January at 142 pounds, and was going on vacation in may and I was desperate to lose all of my excess weight (about 30 pounds)
    And I'm going on another family vacation this year in may again...
    And I've still got 7 pounds to lose!
    Weight loss is slow.
    But at the end of the day, you need a healthy, balanced diet. Weight loss will come with time.
    Just don't give up, and you'll get there!
  • debrag12
    debrag12 Posts: 1,071 Member
    Have you actually done the maths for this. You need to burn 70000 calories over 4 weeks, so 17500 a week or 2500 a day ABOVE what your body naturally burns throughout the day.

    Do you know your TDEE? Using scobby workshop calculator with 3-5 hr of exercise it comes out at round 2500 so basically you'd have to eat nothing for 4 weeks. So you'd eat 1800 a day giving you a deficit of 700 calories so at most 1.5 lbs a week.
  • uvi5
    uvi5 Posts: 710 Member
    samgamgee wrote: »
    OP, I do hope that you don't hurt yourself on this process. Maybe when you don't see the results you predict, you'll come back and re-educate yourself by reading the wise things many people here have to say. I've tried to lose unreasonable amounts of weight before and thought 'oh yeah I'll just be strong willed and it'll work' and guess what? Any weight I did lose went straight back on, cos I wasn't creating sustainable habits and treating my body properly. Since finding MFP and especially the forums I've totally re-educated myself and changed my headspace, I've only lost half a stone so far but I know that by this time next year I'll be at my goal weight and able to maintain it properly. A year isn't that long to wait, if you know you'll be healthy and look great (barring accidents/illnesses, touch wood) for the years ahead. This may fall on deaf ears but if you ever want to do this properly, I hope you'll think of us, plodding away, making progress slowly but steadily and genuinely changing our lives.

    No deaf ears here. I did the same throughout my life. Sometimes life circumstances would happen and I just would not eat and after, thought "happily" at the time, wow, I lost weight, just to put it back on plus more (wow, should there be so many comma's in that sentence?). Then the times I would just restrict so much and overdue the exercise, be cranky and weak, lose weight, just to have sagging skin, aging face, and also, just to put it back on plus more.

    Yesterday, I ate and it seemed like a huge amount of food. I had a huge salmon dinner then later in the evening a huge fruit plate with yogurt. The whole day consisted of 1600 calories. I'm set to 1420/day and I ate some of my exercise calories. I decided to go ahead and weigh myself this morning after 16 ounces of coffee. But, this time I was prepared for what I was to see on the scale. My weight was the same as my last weigh in. I was actually relieved and even concerned, because I know I have not digested all the "quantity and weight" of the food I had late in the day yesterday as well as the salt content and 132 minutes of cardio. Before MFP and what I am learning now, I would panic and restrict/exercise even more and ultimately sabotage myself. Now I am understanding how my body works. I may even be eating too little for the amount of exercise I am getting. I will find out later and adjust. It's exciting to know I can actually eat real food in satisfiying amounts. If it takes me a year to fit into my size fives and I weigh more when I do fit that size again, I will be "happy dancing" like never before!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    999tigger wrote: »
    JordisTSM wrote: »
    I believe OP put her activity level as "very active" which gave her around 1,800.

    Thanks jordi, wonder where the number came from and I believe people pointed out the issue of double counting. Its a tough call for 10lbs, which depends how much you have to lose and how much exercise, but the OP is determined and shes an adult, so let her try.
    Id have my reservations on safety and practicality, but she will listens to who she wants to. Go for it.

    Are you implying that 1,800 calories is unsafe?
  • uvi5
    uvi5 Posts: 710 Member
    I'm being a bit selfish in this thread, because I'm still learning my calorie balance. I think 1800 calories a day is very safe and doable for losing .5 to 1 Lb a week, so long as the exercise is consistant. I don't think I would lose more than that without the exercise. On days of no exercise (outside of daily stuff, bathing, making bed, brushing teeth, running errands.. etc) I think I would just maintain. But I think 1800 is quite safe, for me that is. But, I may be wrong here. I rarely net over 1000/day. I gross more due to eating back 20 - 50% of my exercise calories. I will find out in time. I'm actually glad this topic was posted now. Not for the OP alone, but many questions are being confirmed or answered for me. I hope to learn more :)
  • stephaniechukwu31
    stephaniechukwu31 Posts: 112 Member
    Well alright! Everyone is learning how great is that!? :)
  • stephaniechukwu31
    stephaniechukwu31 Posts: 112 Member
    Wait I'm OP. I never said anything about anyone. Woke up this morning with 40 notifications...
  • DeeNyceRN
    DeeNyceRN Posts: 104 Member
    maxit wrote: »
    Okay. So to those willing to help. How much should I eat? How much should I exercise? I'm 5'5 180 ponds.

    Plug your data in here for an estimate on calories.

    Edited to include the darn link: http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/

    @maxit, Thank you for posting this calculator! It was a BIG help to me! :)
  • stephaniechukwu31
    stephaniechukwu31 Posts: 112 Member
    Update: been eating a lot more calories and I've been waking up with a flatter stomach. :) this is going to work for sure.
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