I am never hungry I have to force myself to eat and I just gain gain gain weight
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forgtmenot wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »
I've taken every AD on the market, as well. I was 95 lbs when I started the meds. Prior to starting them, I couldn't gain a pound no matter how hard I tried. After gaining the initial 20 lbs, I saw a dietitian who put me on a restrictive diet and I followed it to a T. I was a competitive gymnast and cheerleader, training 3 hours a day, 5 times a week. I wasn't eating more or moving less. In fact, I was eating less and still as active as I was before I started the meds. Antidepressants can directly cause metabolic disorders, hence my situation. Not only did I develop insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia, I have a medically low RMR now on top of it.
Science is constantly evolving. This is a field in particular that is not well understood and more research needs to be conducted to figure out why people gain massive amounts of weight on AD's when they are not eating more calories. Hopefully some day, a genius will figure it out so more people don't have to suffer.
Edited to fix grammar.
I have never had anything like that happen to me on anti depressants. I've gained weight on them, but I know I was eating more. I was also very thin when I was younger (underweight actually), but as I got older I was eating more and moving less so I gained weight. I am now 63 lbs heavier than I was when I was 18, but I don't blame the anti depressants at all. I blame myself.
Well, since you were eating more and moving less, it was your fault..
That's exactly what I just said...
Oh no she's constrasting you with herself, you see, since she was eating LESS and moving MORE and magically gaining weight by creating fat out of thin air and is therefore in no way personally responsible for anything.0 -
forgtmenot wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »If you believe all of the "drug/medication" makes me store fat/gain weight theories than you all do realize that this drug/medication that makes you store fat, solves the world hunger, right?
Wrong because not all medications affect each person the same way.
So why not try it out on all the hungry little children??? and see who is affected by it and gain some weight?
Its *kitten* sorry
You gain weight when you consume to much calories!!
Because putting children on medications that have dangerous side effects and aren't absolutely necessary is irresponsible
And clearly only children are starving right? Wrong!
We were specifically talking about children, in case you missed that memo. I work and do research in the field of public health; I'm well aware that children aren't the only ones starving.0 -
Ok, Going to get slashed probably, but log everything you do eat. YOU MIGHT EAT NOT ENOUGH!!!!!! It's not as easy as "you're overweight, so you eat to much". If it was that easy everybody would be slim. You might not get the right amount of nutrients and carbs/protein combination.If you don't fuel your body, it will go into survival mode and won't burn anything. The result is you will gain weight. Even some sports can get your body into survival mode and produce a hormone that will store fat. You will have to make sure that you eat. It doesn't have to be three times a day, it might be 6 times small portions. Just record everything and after a few weeks do a check and see what you eat and have a look at the nutrients and macros. Good luck.0
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JessNelson_ wrote: »First use the food diary and record everything you do eat. Make sure to use a scale and weigh everything to make sure it is acurate. Eat as you normally do and see how many calories you're actually consuming. Often times we eat more than we think. Or our food choices are so bad we are starving our body nutritionally speaking with sugar foods with no substanance.
There is nothing wrong with sugar.
There is a lot wrong with sugar and how it spikes insulin levels and can cause many problems with our metabolisms. Do a little research. Sugar is the enemy in weight loss. We need some but not the amount most people actually eat.
And that's Bingo!
Gaining weight without eating
Disappearing OP
White Knights aplenty
Mysterious medical condition
Wild misunderstandings of basic science
Sugar is evil
If we get in a clean eating debate, this thread will have everything.
Right? This thread is the most epic thread of myths I think I've ever seen on mfp.0 -
Ok, Going to get slashed probably, but log everything you do eat. YOU MIGHT EAT NOT ENOUGH!!!!!! It's not as easy as "you're overweight, so you eat to much". If it was that easy everybody would be slim. You might not get the right amount of nutrients and carbs/protein combination.If you don't fuel your body, it will go into survival mode and won't burn anything. The result is you will gain weight. Even some sports can get your body into survival mode and produce a hormone that will store fat. You will have to make sure that you eat. It doesn't have to be three times a day, it might be 6 times small portions. Just record everything and after a few weeks do a check and see what you eat and have a look at the nutrients and macros. Good luck.
If this were true, we wouldn't have millions of people in underdeveloped countries who are significantly underweight.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »If you believe all of the "drug/medication" makes me store fat/gain weight theories than you all do realize that this drug/medication that makes you store fat, solves the world hunger, right?
Wrong because not all medications affect each person the same way.
So why not try it out on all the hungry little children??? and see who is affected by it and gain some weight?
Its *kitten* sorry
You gain weight when you consume to much calories!!
Because putting children on medications that have dangerous side effects and aren't absolutely necessary is irresponsible
And clearly only children are starving right? Wrong!
We were specifically talking about children, in case you missed that memo. I work and do research in the field of public health; I'm well aware that children aren't the only ones starving.
So why can't the starving adults be given the magic weight gain pills then?0 -
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forgtmenot wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »If you believe all of the "drug/medication" makes me store fat/gain weight theories than you all do realize that this drug/medication that makes you store fat, solves the world hunger, right?
Wrong because not all medications affect each person the same way.
So why not try it out on all the hungry little children??? and see who is affected by it and gain some weight?
Its *kitten* sorry
You gain weight when you consume to much calories!!
Because putting children on medications that have dangerous side effects and aren't absolutely necessary is irresponsible
And clearly only children are starving right? Wrong!
We were specifically talking about children, in case you missed that memo. I work and do research in the field of public health; I'm well aware that children aren't the only ones starving.
So why can't the starving adults be given the magic weight gain pills then?
Because:
1) It would not have the same effect on each person.
2) The same dangerous side effects still apply to adults.
3) It is a waste of money.
4) It is time consuming.
5) Providing them with actual food is effective.0 -
smittybuilt19 wrote: »This thread...where to start?
- Great monday morning fodder
- I developed a headache somewhere between the first few posts and now
- There was a great deal of sound advice repeated over and over and over
- Medical conditions were disclosed, finally
- Mean thread is mean
- Thread has become a fascinating train wreck for OP but a worthwhile read for bystanders, both for entertainment and info.
And for my closing thought, I leave you all with this...
I would just like to boost this... because wow. No wonder the OP disappeared haha...
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JessNelson_ wrote: »First use the food diary and record everything you do eat. Make sure to use a scale and weigh everything to make sure it is acurate. Eat as you normally do and see how many calories you're actually consuming. Often times we eat more than we think. Or our food choices are so bad we are starving our body nutritionally speaking with sugar foods with no substanance.
There is nothing wrong with sugar.
There is a lot wrong with sugar and how it spikes insulin levels and can cause many problems with our metabolisms. Do a little research. Sugar is the enemy in weight loss. We need some but not the amount most people actually eat.
And that's Bingo!
Gaining weight without eating
Disappearing OP
White Knights aplenty
Mysterious medical condition
Wild misunderstandings of basic science
Sugar is evil
If we get in a clean eating debate, this thread will have everything.
You forgot starvation mode... (to be fair I think it was mentioned next page after you posted this but now we can add that to the list).
I would also add the qualifier of First Defensive then Disappearing OP.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »If you believe all of the "drug/medication" makes me store fat/gain weight theories than you all do realize that this drug/medication that makes you store fat, solves the world hunger, right?
Wrong because not all medications affect each person the same way.
So why not try it out on all the hungry little children??? and see who is affected by it and gain some weight?
Its *kitten* sorry
You gain weight when you consume to much calories!!
Because putting children on medications that have dangerous side effects and aren't absolutely necessary is irresponsible
And clearly only children are starving right? Wrong!
We were specifically talking about children, in case you missed that memo. I work and do research in the field of public health; I'm well aware that children aren't the only ones starving.
So why can't the starving adults be given the magic weight gain pills then?
Because:
1) It would not have the same effect on each person.
2) The same dangerous side effects still apply to adults.
3) It is a waste of money.
4) It is time consuming.
5) Providing them with actual food is effective.
And you said you are studying/researching something related to health??? Which country is this, where the educational system is failing students so miserably? Because if my 10 year old wrote this at school, her teacher would demand we meet her for a loooong talk, and discussion about finding a tutor to help her get on the same level as her peers would follow. Honestly, I cannot imagine anyone graduating not high school, but 5th grade and believing there are magic pills that make people survive without food. I am pretty sure my kindergartener would not believe this, and the kid still believes in Santa. Unless Santa is making the pills?0 -
There is no medication that has the same effect on every person. That never stopped science to test and develop them
Not do dangerous side affects
or costs.
Specially for the greedy health industry who likes to make money of everybody...they would jump on this drug/medication like no time and spread it to everybody even if it mean the patient has a heart attack or whatever as side affect
And for the example of that i said children lets generalize it.....people...hungry people oke?
But i tell you this..the magic pill that makes you lose weight doesn't exist, so does the magic pill that you gain weight
The only facts are...there is medication that makes you have more appetite and when you eat more you can gain weight
And vica versa.
but lets agree to disagree.
When OP has this she needs a doctor not us
But seeing her diary and her posts my guess ( yes guess) is that she has the same problem as 99.99% of all the new people who came here and have the same problem as her gaining weight.
Excuses and denial about why she is gaining weight.
When not, we will see here very soon in the news as the miracle woman who is gaining weight by breathing air only.
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Ok, Going to get slashed probably, but log everything you do eat. YOU MIGHT EAT NOT ENOUGH!!!!!! It's not as easy as "you're overweight, so you eat to much". If it was that easy everybody would be slim. You might not get the right amount of nutrients and carbs/protein combination.If you don't fuel your body, it will go into survival mode and won't burn anything. The result is you will gain weight. Even some sports can get your body into survival mode and produce a hormone that will store fat. You will have to make sure that you eat. It doesn't have to be three times a day, it might be 6 times small portions. Just record everything and after a few weeks do a check and see what you eat and have a look at the nutrients and macros. Good luck.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Ok, Going to get slashed probably, but log everything you do eat. YOU MIGHT EAT NOT ENOUGH!!!!!! It's not as easy as "you're overweight, so you eat to much". If it was that easy everybody would be slim. You might not get the right amount of nutrients and carbs/protein combination.If you don't fuel your body, it will go into survival mode and won't burn anything. The result is you will gain weight. Even some sports can get your body into survival mode and produce a hormone that will store fat. You will have to make sure that you eat. It doesn't have to be three times a day, it might be 6 times small portions. Just record everything and after a few weeks do a check and see what you eat and have a look at the nutrients and macros. Good luck.
If this were true, we wouldn't have millions of people in underdeveloped countries who are significantly underweight.
So basically you are acknowledging the fact that CICO is basic science, but you're saying that it just didn't work for you because you are a special snowflake with special medical conditions and special pills which cause magic weight gain?0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »If you believe all of the "drug/medication" makes me store fat/gain weight theories than you all do realize that this drug/medication that makes you store fat, solves the world hunger, right?
Wrong because not all medications affect each person the same way.
So why not try it out on all the hungry little children??? and see who is affected by it and gain some weight?
Its *kitten* sorry
You gain weight when you consume to much calories!!
Because putting children on medications that have dangerous side effects and aren't absolutely necessary is irresponsible
And clearly only children are starving right? Wrong!
We were specifically talking about children, in case you missed that memo. I work and do research in the field of public health; I'm well aware that children aren't the only ones starving.
So why can't the starving adults be given the magic weight gain pills then?
Because:
1) It would not have the same effect on each person.
2) The same dangerous side effects still apply to adults.
3) It is a waste of money.
4) It is time consuming.
5) Providing them with actual food is effective.
Re: #1: So you're the only person on earth who has taken this mystery drug and had it cause your body to start making fat out of thin air?
Re: #3: If it truly causes humans to gain weight without surplus calories, how could it possibly be a waste of money?
Re: #4: How time consuming is it to make a pill vs raise a cow?
Re: #5: Since this pill caused you to gain weight without a calorie surplus, it must necessarily be more effective than food, correct?0 -
waiting ^0
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Maybe a cleanse/detox will turn her metabolism back on...
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smittybuilt19 wrote: »MFP classic a brewin'
Are there any bases left uncovered?
We haven't covered kitteh gifs....0 -
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forgtmenot wrote: »
So basically you are acknowledging the fact that CICO is basic science, but you're saying that it just didn't work for you because you are a special snowflake with special medical conditions and special pills which cause magic weight gain?
The article I linked earlier actually says that structural damage to the hypothalamus is a side effect of psychotropic drugs. I know at least some anti-depressant meds fit into that category.
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Chrysalid2014 wrote: »forgtmenot wrote: »
So basically you are acknowledging the fact that CICO is basic science, but you're saying that it just didn't work for you because you are a special snowflake with special medical conditions and special pills which cause magic weight gain?
The article I linked earlier actually says that structural damage to the hypothalamus is a side effect of psychotropic drugs. I know at least some anti-depressant meds fit into that category.
Has there ever been a case in history where an anti-depressant caused structural damage to the hypothalamus?
Or have you been recklessly googling and extrapolating again?0 -
amandalambert11111 wrote: »I'm really not eating more then I think. Today I had two glasses of milk and water. Yesterday I had two glasses of milk guacamole, pita chips and water.
Unfortunately weight gain and loss is not as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. Calories in/Calories out is the foundation. But there are many other factors specific to each individual person. Like one poster said stress plays a much larger role in your metabolism and hormones than most people realize.
another thing to think of is If you are just drinking milk and eating guacamole everyday (I know you aren't but that is the example you gave what I have to go off of) think about what those calories are made up of. Milk is almost all fat, so is guacamole. Whether it is healthy fat or not it is fats so if you are consuming 1800 calories and 70% are coming from fats coupled with your stress then you are bound to make your fat cells expand and retain fat and therefore weigh more.
Also keep in mind that the amount of calories in a gram of fat is 9. That is more than double the amount of calories in a gram of protein and carbs. So you can be eating much less, but if your diet is comprised of mostly fats you will still be consuming many more calories.
Also don't force yourself to eat. Eat when you are hungry and only until you are content. There could be many reasons why you feel you are never hungry. Most of the time it is because a person is not in tune with their body. You may not know how to tell when you are hungry or not and therefore always feel like you aren't. Or again it could be a severe hormonal imbalance or even adrenal fatigue. I would say visit a doctor and get some professional advice. But I don't believe pills will be the answer.
Last thing, don't assume you don't have an eating disorder just because you are "fat". Again I would research that topic and talk to a physician. And how intense are your workouts. You say you do videos, are you going hard or are you doing just enough. Maybe you should hire a personal trainer once a week and then you will know how hard you have to go to really push yourself when you are alone.
Try your best to learn to cope with stress, speak with a doctor about what is going on with you. Keep better track of exactly what you are eating and at what time you are eating. Stay consistent and diligent. Dome of us are here to help so stay strong and reach out to me if you ever need to.
The Professor.
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wy1dsty1es wrote: »amandalambert11111 wrote: »I'm really not eating more then I think. Today I had two glasses of milk and water. Yesterday I had two glasses of milk guacamole, pita chips and water.
Unfortunately weight gain and loss is not as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. Calories in/Calories out is the foundation. But there are many other factors specific to each individual person. Like one poster said stress plays a much larger role in your metabolism and hormones than most people realize.
another thing to think of is If you are just drinking milk and eating guacamole everyday (I know you aren't but that is the example you gave what I have to go off of) think about what those calories are made up of. Milk is almost all fat, so is guacamole. Whether it is healthy fat or not it is fats so if you are consuming 1800 calories and 70% are coming from fats coupled with your stress then you are bound to make your fat cells expand and retain fat and therefore weigh more.
Also keep in mind that the amount of calories in a gram of fat is 9. That is more than double the amount of calories in a gram of protein and carbs. So you can be eating much less, but if your diet is comprised of mostly fats you will still be consuming many more calories.
Also don't force yourself to eat. Eat when you are hungry and only until you are content. There could be many reasons why you feel you are never hungry. Most of the time it is because a person is not in tune with their body. You may not know how to tell when you are hungry or not and therefore always feel like you aren't. Or again it could be a severe hormonal imbalance or even adrenal fatigue. I would say visit a doctor and get some professional advice. But I don't believe pills will be the answer.
Last thing, don't assume you don't have an eating disorder just because you are "fat". Again I would research that topic and talk to a physician. And how intense are your workouts. You say you do videos, are you going hard or are you doing just enough. Maybe you should hire a personal trainer once a week and then you will know how hard you have to go to really push yourself when you are alone.
Try your best to learn to cope with stress, speak with a doctor about what is going on with you. Keep better track of exactly what you are eating and at what time you are eating. Stay consistent and diligent. Dome of us are here to help so stay strong and reach out to me if you ever need to.
The Professor.
She's gone bro. We've moved on to GIFs...
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_incogNEATo_ wrote: »wy1dsty1es wrote: »amandalambert11111 wrote: »I'm really not eating more then I think. Today I had two glasses of milk and water. Yesterday I had two glasses of milk guacamole, pita chips and water.
Unfortunately weight gain and loss is not as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. Calories in/Calories out is the foundation. But there are many other factors specific to each individual person. Like one poster said stress plays a much larger role in your metabolism and hormones than most people realize.
another thing to think of is If you are just drinking milk and eating guacamole everyday (I know you aren't but that is the example you gave what I have to go off of) think about what those calories are made up of. Milk is almost all fat, so is guacamole. Whether it is healthy fat or not it is fats so if you are consuming 1800 calories and 70% are coming from fats coupled with your stress then you are bound to make your fat cells expand and retain fat and therefore weigh more.
Also keep in mind that the amount of calories in a gram of fat is 9. That is more than double the amount of calories in a gram of protein and carbs. So you can be eating much less, but if your diet is comprised of mostly fats you will still be consuming many more calories.
Also don't force yourself to eat. Eat when you are hungry and only until you are content. There could be many reasons why you feel you are never hungry. Most of the time it is because a person is not in tune with their body. You may not know how to tell when you are hungry or not and therefore always feel like you aren't. Or again it could be a severe hormonal imbalance or even adrenal fatigue. I would say visit a doctor and get some professional advice. But I don't believe pills will be the answer.
Last thing, don't assume you don't have an eating disorder just because you are "fat". Again I would research that topic and talk to a physician. And how intense are your workouts. You say you do videos, are you going hard or are you doing just enough. Maybe you should hire a personal trainer once a week and then you will know how hard you have to go to really push yourself when you are alone.
Try your best to learn to cope with stress, speak with a doctor about what is going on with you. Keep better track of exactly what you are eating and at what time you are eating. Stay consistent and diligent. Dome of us are here to help so stay strong and reach out to me if you ever need to.
The Professor.
She's gone bro. We've moved on to GIFs...
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_incogNEATo_ wrote: »wy1dsty1es wrote: »amandalambert11111 wrote: »I'm really not eating more then I think. Today I had two glasses of milk and water. Yesterday I had two glasses of milk guacamole, pita chips and water.
Unfortunately weight gain and loss is not as cut and dry as everyone is making it out to be. Calories in/Calories out is the foundation. But there are many other factors specific to each individual person. Like one poster said stress plays a much larger role in your metabolism and hormones than most people realize.
another thing to think of is If you are just drinking milk and eating guacamole everyday (I know you aren't but that is the example you gave what I have to go off of) think about what those calories are made up of. Milk is almost all fat, so is guacamole. Whether it is healthy fat or not it is fats so if you are consuming 1800 calories and 70% are coming from fats coupled with your stress then you are bound to make your fat cells expand and retain fat and therefore weigh more.
Also keep in mind that the amount of calories in a gram of fat is 9. That is more than double the amount of calories in a gram of protein and carbs. So you can be eating much less, but if your diet is comprised of mostly fats you will still be consuming many more calories.
Also don't force yourself to eat. Eat when you are hungry and only until you are content. There could be many reasons why you feel you are never hungry. Most of the time it is because a person is not in tune with their body. You may not know how to tell when you are hungry or not and therefore always feel like you aren't. Or again it could be a severe hormonal imbalance or even adrenal fatigue. I would say visit a doctor and get some professional advice. But I don't believe pills will be the answer.
Last thing, don't assume you don't have an eating disorder just because you are "fat". Again I would research that topic and talk to a physician. And how intense are your workouts. You say you do videos, are you going hard or are you doing just enough. Maybe you should hire a personal trainer once a week and then you will know how hard you have to go to really push yourself when you are alone.
Try your best to learn to cope with stress, speak with a doctor about what is going on with you. Keep better track of exactly what you are eating and at what time you are eating. Stay consistent and diligent. Dome of us are here to help so stay strong and reach out to me if you ever need to.
The Professor.
She's gone bro. We've moved on to GIFs...
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Hello! Keep in mind that when you skip meals or eat too few calories, your body kicks into starvation mode and will start storing fat to ensure its survival. You are going more damage to your metabolism by doing that as well. If you are hungry, try eating small meals and healthy snacks. You should also record your intake and see what you truly consume in a day. Good luck and feel free to add for more support -1
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ccorrado006 wrote: »Hello! Keep in mind that when you skip meals or eat too few calories, your body kicks into starvation mode and will start storing fat to ensure its survival. You are going more damage to your metabolism by doing that as well. If you are hungry, try eating small meals and healthy snacks. You should also record your intake and see what you truly consume in a day. Good luck and feel free to add for more support
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ccorrado006 wrote: »Hello! Keep in mind that when you skip meals or eat too few calories, your body kicks into starvation mode and will start storing fat to ensure its survival. You are going more damage to your metabolism by doing that as well. If you are hungry, try eating small meals and healthy snacks. You should also record your intake and see what you truly consume in a day. Good luck and feel free to add for more support
Nope ...no...no...it doesn't
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