Ayurvedic nutrition for weight loss (and general sanity)
margaretlb4
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Has anyone else worked with ayurvedic principles for weightloss? I am beginning to work with an ayurvedic nutritionist through an app called "Vida" - so far I'm really enjoying it. The main simple instruction she has given me is to think about ways to slow down in my life and also to sip lemon water throughout the day. She also has given me a digestive lassi recipe that i'm keen to try. And - and this is startling - she has looked at my diary for my last 8 or so pounds of weight loss and said that I might not be one of these people who DOESN'T need high protein for weight loss.
It also may depend on the week of my period. So this is interesting and without going nuts about it, I'm going to try and see what I should eat for the 1st through 4th weeks of my period (more or less protein that my body may crave...etc) and see what happens. Very curious to see if this helps. It sure makes sense when she talks about it, just paying attention intuitively to what your body wants....we'll see if it wants french fries.
It also may depend on the week of my period. So this is interesting and without going nuts about it, I'm going to try and see what I should eat for the 1st through 4th weeks of my period (more or less protein that my body may crave...etc) and see what happens. Very curious to see if this helps. It sure makes sense when she talks about it, just paying attention intuitively to what your body wants....we'll see if it wants french fries.
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Does this count as woo?
Also Dr. Oz is involved.0 -
Dr. Oz is a quack.
OP: Just eat at reasonable deficit and exercise!!0 -
I'd never heard of it so I did a search. Still not sure what to think of it, but it's interesting. I looked some of the herbs up and they do have an established history of medicinal uses, and some even have a few preliminary studies to back up the claims.
I'd be interested in hearing your results, if you don't get too jaded by the negative responses you'll likely get to share them.0 -
Are you paying to consult this service?
How did she determine your nutrient needs?0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »Are you paying to consult this service?
How did she determine your nutrient needs?
This.
Most likely.margaretlb4 wrote: »Has anyone else worked with ayurvedic principles for weightloss? I am beginning to work with an ayurvedic nutritionist through an app called "Vida" - so far I'm really enjoying it. The main simple instruction she has given me is to think about ways to slow down in my life and also to sip lemon water throughout the day. She also has given me a digestive lassi recipe that i'm keen to try. And - and this is startling - she has looked at my diary for my last 8 or so pounds of weight loss and said that I might not be one of these people who DOESN'T need high protein for weight loss.
It also may depend on the week of my period. So this is interesting and without going nuts about it, I'm going to try and see what I should eat for the 1st through 4th weeks of my period (more or less protein that my body may crave...etc) and see what happens. Very curious to see if this helps. It sure makes sense when she talks about it, just paying attention intuitively to what your body wants....we'll see if it wants french fries.
Why? There is nothing special in this plan and it will not cause weight loss unless you eat at a calorie deficit.0 -
I feel as if you may have been had. Just eat a deficit and exercise and the pounds will just melt off. Although I do have to agree with you MFP is a bit overzealous with their protein suggestions.0
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I had to stop at "sip lemon water throughout the day."
If I went any further, I'd probably go on a rampage.-4 -
i have not heard of this but i will research next time i am at the library. i am always interested in adding new things to my repertoire. thanks for sharing.
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I drink water with lemon all day every day. All it does is make water more palatable to me.0
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Just eat at a deficit and you'll lose weight. All this stuff isn't necessary0
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I think there's quite a bit to Ayruvedic- certainly paying more attention to what your body needs and being mindful. Also that aryuvedic isn't just diet- but a lifestyle. One of its basic principals are doshas- dominate body types. Many that are overweight, or have had a hard time losing weight tend to be Kapha type. Recommended for that type to avoid rich, heavy foods and instead have light, dry foods (eg rice, quinoa, salads). Calorie and portion control are key for this type. Interestingly, breakfast is really important for the other 2 types (Vata, Pitta) but not for Kapha type as that can result in consuming too many calories in the day.
OP - I'm interested in your program and the results you see from this.
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It's woo. Pseudoscience. Total bunk. Take your pick.
Then again, so is most religion. I'd never tell someone who ate kosher or halal that they're wrong for doing that. If that's what you believe, then that's what you believe.
Just don't make the mistake of thinking that there's any science whatsoever behind it.0 -
chivalryder wrote: »I had to stop at "sip lemon water throughout the day."
If I went any further, I'd probably go on a rampage.
Thank you MFP, for reminding me that people are self righteous and close-minded.
I hesitate to even bother writing anything but all calories are not created equal and there are plenty of things to do with digestion that aren't related to calories in and out.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »Are you paying to consult this service?
How did she determine your nutrient needs?
I am paying $99 for three months, once weekly facetime consultations for an hour (Through the site) and I text whenever I have questions and she sends me recs.
She determines my needs bc I answer a questionnare, discuss how things are going weekly and send her all my food logs. I was a competitive swimmer in college and after so have worked with nutritionists at a high level, and I'm impressed with her knowledge. Despite some of the folks who've posted on here, there's not much, um, "woo."
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margaretlb4 wrote: »chivalryder wrote: »I had to stop at "sip lemon water throughout the day."
If I went any further, I'd probably go on a rampage.
Thank you MFP, for reminding me that people are self righteous and close-minded.
I hesitate to even bother writing anything but all calories are not created equal and there are plenty of things to do with digestion that aren't related to calories in and out.
Why even ask about it when it is evident you've already drunk the kool aid? Sorry..the lemon water?
Seriously. What they said has meaning. Doesn't mean they are self-righteous and close-minded. If anything, that's how you are coming off.0 -
"Ayurveda is a 5,000-year-old system of natural healing that has its origins in the Vedic culture of India. Although suppressed during years of foreign occupation, Ayurveda has been enjoying a major resurgence in both its native land and throughout the world."
Predates Dr. Oz by quite a bit.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »margaretlb4 wrote: »chivalryder wrote: »I had to stop at "sip lemon water throughout the day."
If I went any further, I'd probably go on a rampage.
Thank you MFP, for reminding me that people are self righteous and close-minded.
I hesitate to even bother writing anything but all calories are not created equal and there are plenty of things to do with digestion that aren't related to calories in and out.
Why even ask about it when it is evident you've already drunk the kool aid? Sorry..the lemon water?
Seriously. What they said has meaning. Doesn't mean they are self-righteous and close-minded. If anything, that's how you are coming off.
I'm talking about tone. It's not how I like to treat people, even when i don't agree with them. There's a nicer way to say things.
I also think that all calories are not created equal. 500 calories of kool aid do not make your stomach feel the same as 500 calories of healthier things.
And you are right, I probably should have used "self-righteous and close-minded. That is stooping.
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margaretlb4 wrote: »Thank you MFP, for reminding me that people are self righteous and close-minded.
I told my fiance that I was surprised at how the tone here is often one of a political discussion board, rather than the positive tone I was expecting. He said people get attached to their beliefs about food just like they do their political beliefs.
However, on this discussion board, the rules are "Do not attack, mock, or otherwise insult others" so feel free to Flag > Report something you think a moderator should review for breaking those rules.
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PikaKnight wrote: »
Totally agree that some of the first article sounds like hooey. But I do like my nutritionist and so far what she has told me sounds reasonable.
This is the last graph of the 2nd article you sent me (and i'm not trying to treat cancer, just stop chronic stomach pain from stress from my job):
At its most basic level, ayurveda's emphasis on a balanced diet with exercise, such as yoga, could help prevent chronic diseases plaguing the United States. That's not too shabby. But caution is needed once you begin treating cancer and serious diseases based on the alignment of the moon in Aquarius.
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margaretlb4 wrote: »I'm talking about tone. It's not how I like to treat people, even when i don't agree with them. There's a nicer way to say things.
I also think that all calories are not created equal. 500 calories of kool aid do not make your stomach feel the same as 500 calories of healthier things.
Agreed and agreed. But there are quite a few people here who think all calories are created equal, so expect a lot of push back.
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kshama2001 wrote: »"Ayurveda is a 5,000-year-old system of natural healing that has its origins in the Vedic culture of India. Although suppressed during years of foreign occupation, Ayurveda has been enjoying a major resurgence in both its native land and throughout the world."
Predates Dr. Oz by quite a bit.
But citrus fruits are from Australia and wouldn't have existed in India 5000 years ago so can you explain why they are recommended by the OPs guru?0 -
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UltimateRBF wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »margaretlb4 wrote: »I'm talking about tone. It's not how I like to treat people, even when i don't agree with them. There's a nicer way to say things.
I also think that all calories are not created equal. 500 calories of kool aid do not make your stomach feel the same as 500 calories of healthier things.
Agreed and agreed. But there are quite a few people here who think all calories are created equal, so expect a lot of push back.
A calorie is a unit of energy. Of course all calories are created equal. Nutrition and satiation differ. People seem to confuse them with what a calorie is.
I've decided that a pound isn't always a pound therefore I'm already at goal weight.-1 -
History and Development of the Citrus Industry
...First Citrus Fruit to Reach Europe.—The citron (Citrus medica L.) was the first citrus fruit to come to the notice of Europeans and was for many years the only one known. It first attracted attention in Media, where it was then supposed to be indigenous. Apparently it soon spread into Persia, where it came to the attention of the Hebrews and the Greeks. Although it is not now considered to be indigenous to Media, the steps by which it was first brought there from its native habitat in India or Indo-China are not known.
...Orange Introduced into Australia in 1788.—Citrus was first planted in New South Wales by the colonists of the First Fleet under Captain Arthur Phillip, who sailed for Australia in 1787 with instructions to introduce plants and seeds at his discretion (Bowman, 1955). At Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, where the expedition stopped for one month, the colonists purchased orange, lime, and lemon trees. On arrival at Port Jackson on January 26, 1788, the first work performed was the planting of the seeds and plants obtained in the voyage from England. According to Bowman (1955), oranges, limes and lemons were flourishing at the end of the first year of settlement.
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margaretlb4 wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »margaretlb4 wrote: »chivalryder wrote: »I had to stop at "sip lemon water throughout the day."
If I went any further, I'd probably go on a rampage.
Thank you MFP, for reminding me that people are self righteous and close-minded.
I hesitate to even bother writing anything but all calories are not created equal and there are plenty of things to do with digestion that aren't related to calories in and out.
Why even ask about it when it is evident you've already drunk the kool aid? Sorry..the lemon water?
Seriously. What they said has meaning. Doesn't mean they are self-righteous and close-minded. If anything, that's how you are coming off.
I'm talking about tone. It's not how I like to treat people, even when i don't agree with them. There's a nicer way to say things.
I also think that all calories are not created equal. 500 calories of kool aid do not make your stomach feel the same as 500 calories of healthier things.
And you are right, I probably should have used "self-righteous and close-minded. That is stooping.
So, tone aside, calorie content is not related to how satiating or satisfying a particular food is. When fats and proteins are metabolized, the body might use some of the content for other processes than energy production (such as repairing cells, fat storage, creating enzymes, etc), but if you even try to estimate how much of each macronutrient is used for energy vs. other tasks you get so far down into the weeds it doesn't help.
In the aggregate, a calorie from fat or from protein or from carbohydrates is a good enough approximation of the energy your body derives. As for what foods make you feel better, it's all ultimately subjective. The placebo effect is very much operative in people saying they feel better when adopting a particular diet.
Ultimately, it is your time and money at stake. If you like the diet, it is not harmful to you, and you are ok with what you are paying for the service, that is your choice. But look at the actual content of what you are consuming: If you could get the same results for free by eating simply at the same level, is it worth the cost of the service?0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »History and Development of the Citrus Industry
...First Citrus Fruit to Reach Europe.—The citron (Citrus medica L.) was the first citrus fruit to come to the notice of Europeans and was for many years the only one known. It first attracted attention in Media, where it was then supposed to be indigenous. Apparently it soon spread into Persia, where it came to the attention of the Hebrews and the Greeks. Although it is not now considered to be indigenous to Media, the steps by which it was first brought there from its native habitat in India or Indo-China are not known.
...Orange Introduced into Australia in 1788.—Citrus was first planted in New South Wales by the colonists of the First Fleet under Captain Arthur Phillip, who sailed for Australia in 1787 with instructions to introduce plants and seeds at his discretion (Bowman, 1955). At Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, where the expedition stopped for one month, the colonists purchased orange, lime, and lemon trees. On arrival at Port Jackson on January 26, 1788, the first work performed was the planting of the seeds and plants obtained in the voyage from England. According to Bowman (1955), oranges, limes and lemons were flourishing at the end of the first year of settlement.
Okay, you got me. I did too little research at 4am. But, the latest research suggests Australia as the origin if you search 'History, Global Distribution, and Nutritional Importance of Citrus Fruits'
However, I've never seen proof of lemons doing anything for hunger.0 -
Well, it's past my bedtime, but I remember reading something about foods like lemons and mustard satisfying maybe a desire for fat? Will look for it in the AM. I think it was in one of the MFP emails.0
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