Ayurvedic nutrition for weight loss (and general sanity)
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Uh, all this lemon acid. I wonder what that does to ones teeth in the long run. After all, one should not brush the teeth at least two hours after eating anything acidic.
But when all your teeth fall out, you won't be able to eat solid food, which should help with weight loss a fair bit.0 -
If the OP has stress related GI problems, she should be talking to her GI specialist about fodmaps. A registered dietician would be of help for her nutrient needs. Ancient eastern philosophy is great and can safely work along side modern medical science. I went and took and ayurvedic type quiz, and my main "type" fits what my GI doc suggested. Of course, as a 4th+ generation American, my gene pool is very different from the people on whom these ancient philosophies were tested (like science, but with less modern tools, only observation), so I actually came out pretty even across the board for types.
It still comes to not eating things that don't make you feel good, move your body, and quiet your mind for good health (and CICO for weight reduction). Take what inspires you. If you want to spend $99 to have someone micromanage this aspect of your life, make sure you get the most out of it.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »WeddedBliss1992 wrote: »ignore the negativity.
You mean, ignore the facts?
What facts, exactly? The OP never said she didn't need a calorie deficit for weight loss. Has anyone provided any 'facts' showing this plan won't help with her physical problems or make getting to a deficit easier for her?
exactly. Not everyone on this thread is paying attention to what I'm saying, there's an assumption that I don't understand calorie deficit for weight loss. Which I never said and do understand.
There are many things unrelated to calorie deficit (such as nutritional makeup) that also make a difference. It seems there are some folks on here who don't understand that as well.
The poster above (Vune) seems to have read and thought about the thread which is helpful. Alot of this scoffing an woo business is unhelpful, mean and in some instances cowardly. I will probably get some blowback for that but if anyone is in the LA area and wants to meet up and talk about this rationally, I'm happy to grab a coffee.
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ceoverturf wrote: »margaretlb4 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »Are you paying to consult this service?
How did she determine your nutrient needs?
I am paying $99 for three months, once weekly facetime consultations for an hour (Through the site) and I text whenever I have questions and she sends me recs.
She determines my needs bc I answer a questionnare, discuss how things are going weekly and send her all my food logs. I was a competitive swimmer in college and after so have worked with nutritionists at a high level, and I'm impressed with her knowledge. Despite some of the folks who've posted on here, there's not much, um, "woo."
Since tone is very important to you, I'm going to do my best to say this in as nice of a tone as I can possibly muster.
Re: the bolded...really think this through rationally.
Do you really think someone can adequately determine your nutritional needs through a (sic) questionnare and weekly facetime chats?
Do you really think the person is motivated to help you, when her continued compensation (@ $33/month) is contingent upon you not meeting your goals?
I'm terribly sorry, but this is entirely "woo".
I don't understand this line of reasoning at all. Would you say the same of all dieticians? Because I don't know any that work for free. And what about personal trainers? Just a bunch of charlatans that want you to stay unfit so you'll continue to pay them?
Professionals charging for their services = woo?0 -
margaretlb4 wrote: »A lot of this scoffing an woo business is unhelpful, mean and in some instances cowardly.
If someone were to come on here asking for opinions about naturopathy, about anti-vax, about horoscopes or numerology, about mediums who claim they can speak to the dead, about using healing crystals to cure cancer, or about any other pseudo-scientific field, I'm hoping that rational folks would post the same information.
It's not about being "unhelpful" or "mean" and it's certainly not about being "cowardly". It's merely pointing out that there's no scientific or evidence basis for any of this stuff.
If you want to believe it, go right ahead. It's probably mostly (though not entirely) harmless.
But as soon as someone starts charging money, it crosses the line from "mostly harmless belief" to "enterprise for profit" and I think it's completely valid to call that stuff out.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »margaretlb4 wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »Are you paying to consult this service?
How did she determine your nutrient needs?
I am paying $99 for three months, once weekly facetime consultations for an hour (Through the site) and I text whenever I have questions and she sends me recs.
She determines my needs bc I answer a questionnare, discuss how things are going weekly and send her all my food logs. I was a competitive swimmer in college and after so have worked with nutritionists at a high level, and I'm impressed with her knowledge. Despite some of the folks who've posted on here, there's not much, um, "woo."
Since tone is very important to you, I'm going to do my best to say this in as nice of a tone as I can possibly muster.
Re: the bolded...really think this through rationally.
Do you really think someone can adequately determine your nutritional needs through a (sic) questionnare and weekly facetime chats?
Do you really think the person is motivated to help you, when her continued compensation (@ $33/month) is contingent upon you not meeting your goals?
I'm terribly sorry, but this is entirely "woo".
I don't understand this line of reasoning at all. Would you say the same of all dieticians? Because I don't know any that work for free. And what about personal trainers? Just a bunch of charlatans that want you to stay unfit so you'll continue to pay them?
Professionals charging for their services = woo?
Fair enough...perhaps I wasn't clear in what I meant.
Paying for a personal trainer = paying for their time to work specifically with you on your exercise regimen, form, etc.
I differentiate that from paying someone who is going to give you a generic questionnaire over the internet, never personally meet with you, and offer broad, vague, non-personalized diet plans.0 -
Registered dietitians charge for their services, as do doctors and other healthcare professionals. But their services are based on real, verifiable science.
As for personal trainers, YMMV. You're essentially paying for the in-person coaching and motivation. Trainers vary a lot, as do people in terms of how they respond to motivation. Worth it for some, not for others. And listening to personal trainers with respect to diet or nutrition is usually a bad idea -- most trainers worth their salt will recognize that it's not their area of expertise and will refrain from giving advice beyond the basics here.
Paying for something that is proven to work is VERY different from paying for something that, by definition, is either not proven to work or is proven to NOT work.0 -
Registered dietitians charge for their services, as do doctors and other healthcare professionals. But their services are based on real, verifiable science.
As for personal trainers, YMMV. You're essentially paying for the in-person coaching and motivation. Trainers vary a lot, as do people in terms of how they respond to motivation. Worth it for some, not for others. And listening to personal trainers with respect to diet or nutrition is usually a bad idea -- most trainers worth their salt will recognize that it's not their area of expertise and will refrain from giving advice beyond the basics here.
Paying for something that is proven to work is VERY different from paying for something that, by definition, is either not proven to work or is proven to NOT work.
Meh, people pay for alternative and experimental things all the time. That doesn't make it woo or bad, it just makes it riskier. NOTHING was ever proven by science without someone trying something unproven by science.0 -
FWIW I asked my dentist about drinking lemon water throughout the day. She said that as long as it's alternated with regular water, and/or primarily consumed in one sitting, you'll be fine. But if you drink high-concentration lemon water exclusively all day then it will weaken the enamel.0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Registered dietitians charge for their services, as do doctors and other healthcare professionals. But their services are based on real, verifiable science.
As for personal trainers, YMMV. You're essentially paying for the in-person coaching and motivation. Trainers vary a lot, as do people in terms of how they respond to motivation. Worth it for some, not for others. And listening to personal trainers with respect to diet or nutrition is usually a bad idea -- most trainers worth their salt will recognize that it's not their area of expertise and will refrain from giving advice beyond the basics here.
Paying for something that is proven to work is VERY different from paying for something that, by definition, is either not proven to work or is proven to NOT work.
Meh, people pay for alternative and experimental things all the time. That doesn't make it woo or bad, it just makes it riskier. NOTHING was ever proven by science without someone trying something unproven by science.
But the people claiming this stuff works have zero interest in setting up a clinical trial to prove that their methods work. Because if they did, it would show that it's woo. Science publishes both its success and failures; woo won't.0 -
I do agree that this particular situation sounds like a rip off, and the dietitian route would be better. And you can always try eliminating probable trigger foods on your own, if you're reasonable about what you're eliminating and why. I think the mindful intentions behind eastern medicine are more valuable than lists of food given by someone who learned their own interpretation of someone else's interpretation of a series of interpretations, and so on.0
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there is a reason it's called "practicing" medicine. not all doctors are 100% correct and based entirely in fact.
i have paid hundreds to "real" doctors who ended up being dead wrong about my situation. sometimes what someone needs is something out of the ordinary. i personally think if you don't have anything positive to say to the OP, then why say it? she didn't ask for negativity and she isn't doing anything harmful. if she were smoking crack and you wanted to chime-in to let her know that might not be wise, that's one thing.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Registered dietitians charge for their services, as do doctors and other healthcare professionals. But their services are based on real, verifiable science.
As for personal trainers, YMMV. You're essentially paying for the in-person coaching and motivation. Trainers vary a lot, as do people in terms of how they respond to motivation. Worth it for some, not for others. And listening to personal trainers with respect to diet or nutrition is usually a bad idea -- most trainers worth their salt will recognize that it's not their area of expertise and will refrain from giving advice beyond the basics here.
Paying for something that is proven to work is VERY different from paying for something that, by definition, is either not proven to work or is proven to NOT work.
Meh, people pay for alternative and experimental things all the time. That doesn't make it woo or bad, it just makes it riskier. NOTHING was ever proven by science without someone trying something unproven by science.
But the people claiming this stuff works have zero interest in setting up a clinical trial to prove that their methods work. Because if they did, it would show that it's woo. Science publishes both its success and failures; woo won't.
I'll have to take your word for it since I don't know the people claiming this stuff works. When I read about it, I did see studies backing up the claims for some of the herbs.0 -
"Ayurvedic "
That mean's it is woo, and even worse, it is cultural appropriation woo. "Oh, silly white people, listen to the wisdom of our Indian ancestors, they're so wise because they were from long ago and Indian."0 -
WeddedBliss1992 wrote: »there is a reason it's called "practicing" medicine. not all doctors are 100% correct and based entirely in fact.
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margaretlb4 wrote: »Has anyone else worked with ayurvedic principles for weightloss? I am beginning to work with an ayurvedic nutritionist through an app called "Vida" - so far I'm really enjoying it. The main simple instruction she has given me is to think about ways to slow down in my life and also to sip lemon water throughout the day. She also has given me a digestive lassi recipe that i'm keen to try. And - and this is startling - she has looked at my diary for my last 8 or so pounds of weight loss and said that I might not be one of these people who DOESN'T need high protein for weight loss.
It also may depend on the week of my period. So this is interesting and without going nuts about it, I'm going to try and see what I should eat for the 1st through 4th weeks of my period (more or less protein that my body may crave...etc) and see what happens. Very curious to see if this helps. It sure makes sense when she talks about it, just paying attention intuitively to what your body wants....we'll see if it wants french fries.
just curious as to which type you are: pitta, vata or kapha. i feel more led toward vata and my husband is spot-on for kapha. it's very interesting to read! i've not read far enough as to where the diet fits into it as of yet, but just reading the types.
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This person is a registered dietician, in addition to using some ayurveda in her suggestions. And i'm not just drinking lemon water, which I sip it throughout the day. I drink plain water all through the day too.0
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I understand a lot of eastern health advice centres around acidity/alkalinity, believing that eating various foods directly effect the acidity of the body. But modern chemistry testing shows that this is not true. If the premise is false, all the ideas that flow from it are flawed. It might be fun to twiddle with various foods but it will not make a marked difference.0
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Margaret - I didn't get the impression that any of the people crying "Woo!" know anything about Ayerveda other than what they just now gleaned from a quick Google, so factor that in to the weight you give their responses.0
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