Look what fast food & ice cream have done to my cholesterol

Onesnap

and I'll re-post this one since it was the best thing I read regarding this topic.

Why can some people eat fast food and never gain weight? Why can some people stay thin when all they do is go walking a few times/week and others have to hit the gym.

http://healthyliving.msn.com/diseases/heart-and-cardiovascular/can-you-be-thin-and-still-eat-junk-food-1

I also suggest watching the HBO series 'Weight of the Nation' that was really good and explained how someone who dieted has different daily calorie needs (less) than someone that has never dieted in the past. They showed two people: same age, same weight, both female. One that had NEVER dieted actually had higher calorie needs to maintain compared to the one that actually dieted in the past.

http://theweightofthenation.hbo.com/

Joehenny

I swear clean eaters have to go full retard even in the face of empirical evidence.

jwdieter

Great job. I'm not sure your diet and exercise plan would work for everyone but thank you for showing that it CAN work for some.

His plan and execution are great for heavy people trying to lose weight. Just look at his diary instead of reading his headlines, and replace "a lot" with "some" on his food references. It's a very disciplined plan with good macros, accompanied by regular exercise.

I'm interested to see if he can tighten the abs up on the reported 4k+ sodium/day.

jonnythan

I'm still stuck on waiting for the towel to drop.

Anyway..... You do look great and I'm glad you're able to eat what you want and still be healthy. I am not one of those people. I really wish I could eat out more often, but it just doesn't sit on me right. As with anything, there is a balance between "clean" foods and unclean foods. There isn't anything wrong with enjoying an ice cream when you want it....though not as many people are are as lucky as you are being able to eat it every day. Totally jealous.

There's no reason you couldn't eat ice cream every day, unless you'r diabetic or something. You weigh more than I do and you're about my age, so your BMR will be close to mine.

brower47

Well it is junk food in many cases. Fast food from a large corporation is junk. The majority of fast food chains support factory farming. The only one I can think of that does not is Chipotle.

Fast food from a small family owned restaurant that's supporting the local economy and the local food economy (see my Bob's Clam Hut example) is not actually junk food. It's fast food made with love, local ingredients, and cholesterol free oil.

An Applebee's microwaving my pasta is serving me junk food that arrives on a truck and is not actually cooked. It's just microwaved in a plastic bag. Not made with love. Not made by a 3rd generation business.

Not saying my way is better...but I sure am saying that when I'm at a picnic table enjoying my fried food takeout from a small family business that's fast food that sure as heck is delicious and supports a small business. My fast food is superior.

IHOP is not even a real breakfast out...I had a tasty homecooked breakfast for $8 this past weekend. Heck, they even made their own corned beef hash. Felt awesome and went for a walk on the beach afterwards. Cheap, homemade, and fast.

1. Love: Where does that fit into my macros? Cholesterol free oil: There's nothing wrong with dietary cholesterol (excepting special medical cases).

2. Since when do microwaves NOT cook food? And there's no love in microwave cooking?

3. No, you're saying your way is made with love and love is all you need. It doesn't matter if the nutritional content of my burger made at home with love is identical from the burger from McDonalds. Unless your love is adding a little extra protein? Your fast food is only superior within your mind.

4. If I'm ending my fast with food, it is a real breakfast no matter where I eat it, who made it or how much love they did or did not add while cooking it. If I ate it, it broke my fast and is thus a real breakfast. If you hadn't taken that walk on a beach but on a treadmill, would it then have not been a really walk? Because you know, that treadmill wasn't made with love.

I don't see Love in the MFP database. Too bad, my one and only rule for what I can and can't eat is: Can't eat it if I can't log it.

You guys are just talking silly talk.

I microwave my lunch daily. Of course it is just food.

And obviously the OP does not know it all because he said it's illegal to use antibiotics when raising commercial chicken. And it's not.

Walking on the treadmill or the beach is still walking.

You can't log "made with love" but I'm guessing my takeout has more "love" than yours.

I don't care if it has more love (dumbest food requirement ever when discussing food on a nutrition/fitness site). I only care about if it tastes better or not. If yours tastes better (according to my taste preferences and not yours), then I'll eat it. If it doesn't, I'll stick to my evil, corporate, soulless food.

Oh and the microwave comment, I didn't say you said it wasn't food any longer. You said it wasn't cooked by the microwave while in fact, microwaves most certainly do cook food.

And I never mentioned the OP. I was responding to you and your bizarre claims alone.

Onesnap

Not everyone can eat fast food every week. Some folks that REALLY have to watch their weight or are pre-diabetic as an example cannot eat fast food every week.

Please quit posting ridiculous lies in my success stories thread. At this point you are simply trolling and harassing.

Go start your own success story thread.

I'm not trolling. I'm only trying to help.

You're the one blowing things out of proportion. I just got a little up in your face about being so supportive of food produced by large corporations. If that's what you like, eat it. If your medical tests keep showing up well, eat it.

Onesnap

Well it is junk food in many cases. Fast food from a large corporation is junk. The majority of fast food chains support factory farming. The only one I can think of that does not is Chipotle.

Fast food from a small family owned restaurant that's supporting the local economy and the local food economy (see my Bob's Clam Hut example) is not actually junk food. It's fast food made with love, local ingredients, and cholesterol free oil.

An Applebee's microwaving my pasta is serving me junk food that arrives on a truck and is not actually cooked. It's just microwaved in a plastic bag. Not made with love. Not made by a 3rd generation business.

Not saying my way is better...but I sure am saying that when I'm at a picnic table enjoying my fried food takeout from a small family business that's fast food that sure as heck is delicious and supports a small business. My fast food is superior.

IHOP is not even a real breakfast out...I had a tasty homecooked breakfast for $8 this past weekend. Heck, they even made their own corned beef hash. Felt awesome and went for a walk on the beach afterwards. Cheap, homemade, and fast.

1. Love: Where does that fit into my macros? Cholesterol free oil: There's nothing wrong with dietary cholesterol (excepting special medical cases).

2. Since when do microwaves NOT cook food? And there's no love in microwave cooking?

3. No, you're saying your way is made with love and love is all you need. It doesn't matter if the nutritional content of my burger made at home with love is identical from the burger from McDonalds. Unless your love is adding a little extra protein? Your fast food is only superior within your mind.

4. If I'm ending my fast with food, it is a real breakfast no matter where I eat it, who made it or how much love they did or did not add while cooking it. If I ate it, it broke my fast and is thus a real breakfast. If you hadn't taken that walk on a beach but on a treadmill, would it then have not been a really walk? Because you know, that treadmill wasn't made with love.

I don't see Love in the MFP database. Too bad, my one and only rule for what I can and can't eat is: Can't eat it if I can't log it.

You guys are just talking silly talk.

I microwave my lunch daily. Of course it is just food.

And obviously the OP does not know it all because he said it's illegal to use antibiotics when raising commercial chicken. And it's not.

Walking on the treadmill or the beach is still walking.

You can't log "made with love" but I'm guessing my takeout has more "love" than yours.

I don't care if it has more love (dumbest food requirement ever when discussing food on a nutrition/fitness site). I only care about if it tastes better or not. If yours tastes better (according to my taste preferences and not yours), then I'll eat it. If it doesn't, I'll stick to my evil, corporate, soulless food.

Oh and the microwave comment, I didn't say you said it wasn't food any longer. You said it wasn't cooked by the microwave while in fact, microwaves most certainly do cook food.

And I never mentioned the OP. I was responding to you and your bizarre claims alone.

Don't name call or say that things I've written are DUMB. That's against forum rules.

Just having a friendly discussion.

I like my food made with love. If it's a 3rd generation family cooking food for strangers (in a family owned restaurant) I'm happy to support them. It's just an expression. I'm sorry that you think I'm dumb or that my words are dumb.

If I make something for my parents (who live really far away) you can bet your bottom it's made with love.

I'm sorry if you think the expression is "dumb".

jonnythan

Great job. I'm not sure your diet and exercise plan would work for everyone but thank you for showing that it CAN work for some.

His plan and execution are great for heavy people trying to lose weight. Just look at his diary instead of reading his headlines, and replace "a lot" with "some" on his food references. It's a very disciplined plan with good macros, accompanied by regular exercise.

I'm interested to see if he can tighten the abs up on the reported 4k+ sodium/day.

The clean eating and new dieter crowd would consider ice cream every day "a lot." They would also consider fast food and IHOP 5+ times a week "a lot." I think, anyway.

You're on a crusade to argue against the way I describe my diet. My diary is open. Let other people decide for themselves whether fast food 5 times a week is "a lot" and whether ice cream 5-7 days a week is "a lot." We don't need you posting on every page that I don't eat "a lot" of fast food and ice cream.

Bry_Fitness70

This is completely, absolutely, 100% wrong.

McNugget innards before they are dyed white:

Did you know it's illegal to use antibiotics and hormones on chickens and pigs?

You didn’t mention cows, interesting….

Literally the only ingredients in a McD's hamburger patty are ground beef, with salt and pepper added at the time of cooking.

Yes, ground beef with hormones and anti-biotics. Google CAFO.

Onesnap

Great job. I'm not sure your diet and exercise plan would work for everyone but thank you for showing that it CAN work for some.

His plan and execution are great for heavy people trying to lose weight. Just look at his diary instead of reading his headlines, and replace "a lot" with "some" on his food references. It's a very disciplined plan with good macros, accompanied by regular exercise.

I'm interested to see if he can tighten the abs up on the reported 4k+ sodium/day.

The clean eating and new dieter crowd would consider ice cream every day "a lot." They would also consider fast food and IHOP 5+ times a week "a lot." I think, anyway.

You're on a crusade to argue against the way I describe my diet. My diary is open. Let other people decide for themselves whether fast food 5 times a week is "a lot" and whether ice cream 5-7 days a week is "a lot." We don't need you posting on every page that I don't eat "a lot" of fast food and ice cream.

My brain hurts.

You said you eat fast food once per week in a response to me. Now you are saying it's 5x/week?

Make up your mind.

jonnythan

This is completely, absolutely, 100% wrong.

McNugget innards before they are dyed white:

No.

McNuggets are not made from that. I don't even think the stuff in that picture isn't even chicken. It looks like "pink slime," which is mechanically separated beef.

Please, leave your lies and misinformation and BS out of my success story thread.

Onesnap

This is completely, absolutely, 100% wrong.

McNugget innards before they are dyed white:

Did you know it's illegal to use antibiotics and hormones on chickens and pigs?

You didn’t mention cows, interesting….

Literally the only ingredients in a McD's hamburger patty are ground beef, with salt and pepper added at the time of cooking.

Yes, ground beef with hormones and anti-biotics. Google CAFO.

Finally someone with some common sense in this post. *bows* Thank you for posting.

We're not dissing the OP's choices. We're only putting the facts out there.

For those of you that watch Jamie Oliver's 'Food Revolution' he showed in one episode what goes into "nuggets". It was...actually a great episode.

jonnythan

My brain hurts.

You said you eat fast food once per week in a response to me. Now you are saying it's 5x/week?

Make up your mind.

I never said that, ever. Please stop trolling my thread and harassing my success story.

Onesnap

This is completely, absolutely, 100% wrong.

McNugget innards before they are dyed white:

No.

McNuggets are not made from that. I don't even think the stuff in that picture isn't even chicken. It looks like "pink slime," which is mechanically separated beef.

Please, leave your lies and misinformation and BS out of my success story thread.

It's not lies and BS. It's a fact that 99% of Americans eat factory farmed meat.

And this, is Jamie Oliver explaining the joys of nuggets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKSoiDtdi9s

jonnythan

This is completely, absolutely, 100% wrong.

McNugget innards before they are dyed white:

No.

McNuggets are not made from that. I don't even think the stuff in that picture isn't even chicken. It looks like "pink slime," which is mechanically separated beef.

Please, leave your lies and misinformation and BS out of my success story thread.

It's not lies and BS. It's a fact that 99% of Americans eat factory farmed meat.

And this, is Jamie Oliver explaining the joys of nuggets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKSoiDtdi9s

McNuggets are not made from the substance in the picture. Full stop.

Please post in another thread.

juliegrey1

what is bad about ice cream anyway? I dont eat fast food cos I dont like it I cook all our family food from scratch cos I like to do that I dont get this clean eating thing anyway!

5ftnFun

Well it is junk food in many cases. Fast food from a large corporation is junk. The majority of fast food chains support factory farming. The only one I can think of that does not is Chipotle.

Fast food from a small family owned restaurant that's supporting the local economy and the local food economy (see my Bob's Clam Hut example) is not actually junk food. It's fast food made with love, local ingredients, and cholesterol free oil.

An Applebee's microwaving my pasta is serving me junk food that arrives on a truck and is not actually cooked. It's just microwaved in a plastic bag. Not made with love. Not made by a 3rd generation business.

Not saying my way is better...but I sure am saying that when I'm at a picnic table enjoying my fried food takeout from a small family business that's fast food that sure as heck is delicious and supports a small business. My fast food is superior.

IHOP is not even a real breakfast out...I had a tasty homecooked breakfast for $8 this past weekend. Heck, they even made their own corned beef hash. Felt awesome and went for a walk on the beach afterwards. Cheap, homemade, and fast.

1. Love: Where does that fit into my macros? Cholesterol free oil: There's nothing wrong with dietary cholesterol (excepting special medical cases).

2. Since when do microwaves NOT cook food? And there's no love in microwave cooking?

3. No, you're saying your way is made with love and love is all you need. It doesn't matter if the nutritional content of my burger made at home with love is identical from the burger from McDonalds. Unless your love is adding a little extra protein? Your fast food is only superior within your mind.

4. If I'm ending my fast with food, it is a real breakfast no matter where I eat it, who made it or how much love they did or did not add while cooking it. If I ate it, it broke my fast and is thus a real breakfast. If you hadn't taken that walk on a beach but on a treadmill, would it then have not been a really walk? Because you know, that treadmill wasn't made with love.

I don't see Love in the MFP database. Too bad, my one and only rule for what I can and can't eat is: Can't eat it if I can't log it.

You guys are just talking silly talk.

I microwave my lunch daily. Of course it is just food.

And obviously the OP does not know it all because he said it's illegal to use antibiotics when raising commercial chicken. And it's not.

Walking on the treadmill or the beach is still walking.

You can't log "made with love" but I'm guessing my takeout has more "love" than yours.

I don't care if it has more love (dumbest food requirement ever when discussing food on a nutrition/fitness site). I only care about if it tastes better or not. If yours tastes better (according to my taste preferences and not yours), then I'll eat it. If it doesn't, I'll stick to my evil, corporate, soulless food.

Oh and the microwave comment, I didn't say you said it wasn't food any longer. You said it wasn't cooked by the microwave while in fact, microwaves most certainly do cook food.

And I never mentioned the OP. I was responding to you and your bizarre claims alone.

Don't name call or say that things I've written are DUMB. That's against forum rules.

Just having a friendly discussion.

I like my food made with love. If it's a 3rd generation family cooking food for strangers (in a family owned restaurant) I'm happy to support them. It's just an expression. I'm sorry that you think I'm dumb or that my words are dumb.

If I make something for my parents (who live really far away) you can bet your bottom it's made with love.

I'm sorry if you think the expression is "dumb".

Friendly discussion? I think you are bound and determined that everyone agree with YOU and that we see it YOUR way. Just stop already. We get it. You don't like fast food. Fine. Don't eat it. It doesn't make you superior to everyone else despite what you think.

Onesnap

Great job. I'm not sure your diet and exercise plan would work for everyone but thank you for showing that it CAN work for some.

His plan and execution are great for heavy people trying to lose weight. Just look at his diary instead of reading his headlines, and replace "a lot" with "some" on his food references. It's a very disciplined plan with good macros, accompanied by regular exercise.

I'm interested to see if he can tighten the abs up on the reported 4k+ sodium/day.

The clean eating and new dieter crowd would consider ice cream every day "a lot." They would also consider fast food and IHOP 5+ times a week "a lot." I think, anyway.

You're on a crusade to argue against the way I describe my diet. My diary is open. Let other people decide for themselves whether fast food 5 times a week is "a lot" and whether ice cream 5-7 days a week is "a lot." We don't need you posting on every page that I don't eat "a lot" of fast food and ice cream.

My brain hurts.

You said you eat fast food once per week in a response to me. Now you are saying it's 5x/week?

Make up your mind.

Posting again.

I'm feeling like we're in the Twilight Zone, OP.

Above you say: "My diary is open. Let other people decide for themselves whether fast food 5 times a week is "a lot" and whether ice cream 5-7 days a week is "a lot."

So does that mean you're eating fast food once per week as you told me, or "5 times per week" as you said above?

Again, just trying to clear this up.

jonnythan

So does that mean you're eating fast food once per week as you told me

I never, ever told you that. This is a straight-up lie. Please quit posting lies in my thread. Thanks.

Achrya

Holy crap I want McNuggets now. Best chicken-like food out there, especially when smothered in sweet chili sauce.

Not. Even. Joking.