Low carb... Is it a diet fad?
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Is there a universal meaning for "low carb"?0
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »
You're eating the wrong PB frosting if it sticks to the roof of your mouth.
Also, it's the wrong recipe if the frosting isn't so awesome and satisfying that after eating it off of the top of the cupcake (which must be chocolate) you actually have a bare instant where you think, "do I really need to eat the cake?" before eating it anyway.0 -
Is there a universal meaning for "low carb"?
Yes. If you ate 350 grams on Monday, 349 is low carb on Tuesday. OR MFP low carb is generally(loose word/non descript) 150 grams, lower is 100, really low is 50(hey Keto), and why am I eating any carbs <20. If you look at low carb diets they tend to miss replacing it with Protein since more people under consume Protein. Hope this helps. This message brought to you by the guy with 5 cupcakes in his freezer.
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »Is there a universal meaning for "low carb"?
Yes. If you ate 350 grams on Monday, 349 is low carb on Tuesday. OR MFP low carb is generally(loose word/non descript) 150 grams, lower is 100, really low is 50(hey Keto), and why am I eating any carbs <20. If you look at low carb diets they tend to miss replacing it with Protein since more people under consume Protein. Hope this helps. This message brought to you by the guy with 5 cupcakes in his freezer.
It should be brought to you by the guy with 3 cupcakes in his freezer now that he went to the trouble to get the cupcakes out of his freezer and line them up so pretty and take a picture for his MFP community. The least the guy could do would be eat some of those cupcakes and tell us how they taste.
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BecomingBane wrote: »Peanut butter frosting
/threadjuggernaut1974 wrote: »Peanut butter frosting
/thread
#WhyNotBoth
http://www.food.com/recipe/peanut-butter-cream-cheese-frosting-88800
^These.... I feel like something happened just now that opened up the heavens and let the light and strange invisible chorus shine through.
Ok, stupid question, but what's the vegan substitution for cream cheese? I could see tofu having a similar texture, but replicating the flavor I would think would be rather difficult.
Vegan cream cheese. There are a couple of brands, but Daiya is my favorite.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »BecomingBane wrote: »Peanut butter frosting
/threadjuggernaut1974 wrote: »Peanut butter frosting
/thread
#WhyNotBoth
http://www.food.com/recipe/peanut-butter-cream-cheese-frosting-88800
^These.... I feel like something happened just now that opened up the heavens and let the light and strange invisible chorus shine through.
Ok, stupid question, but what's the vegan substitution for cream cheese? I could see tofu having a similar texture, but replicating the flavor I would think would be rather difficult.
Vegan cream cheese. There are a couple of brands, but Daiya is my favorite.
Daiya is great, although I don't mind Tofutti either.0 -
BecomingBane wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »BecomingBane wrote: »Peanut butter frosting
/threadjuggernaut1974 wrote: »Peanut butter frosting
/thread
#WhyNotBoth
http://www.food.com/recipe/peanut-butter-cream-cheese-frosting-88800
^These.... I feel like something happened just now that opened up the heavens and let the light and strange invisible chorus shine through.
Ok, stupid question, but what's the vegan substitution for cream cheese? I could see tofu having a similar texture, but replicating the flavor I would think would be rather difficult.
Vegan cream cheese. There are a couple of brands, but Daiya is my favorite.
Daiya is great, although I don't mind Tofutti either.
You'll never see me turn Tofutti down. Especially if it was turned into that peanut butter frosting.0 -
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blankiefinder wrote: »
Is that a new profile pic?! Gorgeous!
Ha, thanks! I figured if I was going to pay someone to do my makeup I should at least document it...0 -
_Terrapin_ wrote: »Is there a universal meaning for "low carb"?
Yes. If you ate 350 grams on Monday, 349 is low carb on Tuesday. OR MFP low carb is generally(loose word/non descript) 150 grams, lower is 100, really low is 50(hey Keto), and why am I eating any carbs <20. If you look at low carb diets they tend to miss replacing it with Protein since more people under consume Protein. Hope this helps. This message brought to you by the guy with 5 cupcakes in his freezer.
I may have to start a thread about getting protein in my diet. Thanks for the answer.
Thank you
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Aside for the mentioned pros and cons of low carb it is also significantly harder to perform as either and endurance athlete or bodybuilding / strength development. It isn't impossible - but the space and time needed to make adjustments is rather fine.
It is an excellent method to reach fast weight loss to meet a specific weight goal (water weight loss, not fat loss goal) over a short time - but without very careful followup - it also likely to result in a rebound.
This is spoken from the perspective of an athlete/builder using low carb for body comp and isn't really that relevant to general population seeking a better way of eating long term, is it?
I'm a 50 year old (almost) amateur athlete (lol, well, once was) in the general pop. I assume that quite a few people here are runners, cyclists, etc. or trying to build muscle in the gym. It may not be ideal in those cases - even if you are only a weekend grocery racer. If we are talking about a better way of eating long term, I'd assume that we also look into a global perspective that includes enjoyable physical activity. But if it isn't your thing, ignore that.
In terms of long term eating - low carb might work for some, more often than not it requires a lot of adjustments to the eating environment. That isn't necessarily a con but an observation.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »Is there a universal meaning for "low carb"?
Yes. If you ate 350 grams on Monday, 349 is low carb on Tuesday. OR MFP low carb is generally(loose word/non descript) 150 grams, lower is 100, really low is 50(hey Keto), and why am I eating any carbs <20. If you look at low carb diets they tend to miss replacing it with Protein since more people under consume Protein. Hope this helps. This message brought to you by the guy with 5 cupcakes in his freezer.
It should be brought to you by the guy with 3 cupcakes in his freezer now that he went to the trouble to get the cupcakes out of his freezer and line them up so pretty and take a picture for his MFP community. The least the guy could do would be eat some of those cupcakes and tell us how they taste.
Oh, the answer I give you is both reality and an excuse. Blood work early AM tomorrow...I need to start fasting. Yeah!
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I think I need some red velvet cake. As fantastic as the food is here, I miss that.
On the other hand I'm going to stop at dalloyau tomorrow, when I visit my daughter. Macaroons for me.
http://www.dalloyau.fr/macarons.html0 -
Point was that eating habits of people don't change much unless intentionally changed. If one eats within their calorie range with the variety of food they like and continue it for life, chances are their weight won't fluctuate as much either.
Theoretically yes. Put in practice, very often not. Above, I listed the foodz I very much like, and have eaten all my life. I don't moderate those foodz successfully - never have and never will. And I know I'm not alone in this.
Most people don't gain weight eating too many vegetables and fresh fruits. Something like chicken is easily overeaten when breaded and fried or drenched in a corn starchy gravy laden with sugar and soy sauce as in a Chinese restaurant. If that same chicken was not breaded or fried, not dressed with starchy gravy, not stuffed with Stouffer's and not soaked in a sugar sweetened marinade, the notion of overeating it would be far less attractive.
But I know you're not in my camp. So we'll agree to disagree.
Well, I agree that if all you allow yourself are foods that don't taste good, the notion of overeating would be far less attractive.
The problem with your argument is that there's plenty of highly palatable ways to eat chicken that are not breaded or fried, not dressed with starchy gravy, not stuffed with Stouffer's and not soaked in a sugar sweetened marinade. If it's tasty, some people will overeat it.
I'm not sure if you thought I was saying eating food that doesn't taste good is what enables one to not overeat food. I wasn't though.
Taking the chicken example. Here's a practically universally tasty way of eating chicken that doesn't involve marinade, breading, frying, gravy or stuffing.
One Kosher whole chicken leg with skin, placed in a small baking dish with a half a cup of water at the bottom. Bake without covering at 400 degrees Fahrenheit until skin is crispy, dark meat inside is tender and moist and the bottom of the baking contains a nice oily juice to pour over the chicken and accompanying vegetables, seasoned perfectly by the Kosher salting process. Compatible with Paleo, low carb and Keto. Delicious, but usually not a stuff-your-face-with-it-food-until-you-need-a-nap-or-an-ambulance, like Popeyes, Kentucky Fried, chicken fingers or Szechuan chicken.
And yes, yes, I know MFP is full of sane and moderated former chubs who luv to science and never did this in the first place. They got fat eating too many mangos, asparagus salad and oat porridge. But for the rest of us...
True for me. I'll eat 4 ounces of roast chicken, enjoy every bite, and feel no urge for seconds. (I will have also had a starchy and non-starchy veg with this meal.)
But General Tso's Chicken is indeed another story. (I will also have had a starchy and non-starchy veg with this.)
I made this http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10306894/general-tso-chicken-236-calories/p1 the other night and my OH complained several times that it was not sweet enough.0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wetcoaster wrote: »Wetcoaster wrote: »Fact or fiction? It's a real way to eat. I am not sure what you mean with that.
I don't think it is a fad. That would imply it is short lived and it was not an uncommon way to eat up into the 50s. Atkins has been around a few decades.
It can be good for those who need to reduce carbs for health reasons or enjoy eating that way.
Pros and cons are going to vary between people. I eat low carb and have for some months now. For me the pros are:- Improved blood glucose
- Improved autoimmune issues (pain reduction)
- Improved cognitive functions
- Improved energy
- Fewer headaches
- No more reactive hypoglycaemia
- Better skin
- Reduced appetite and cravings
- Easy to eat at a slight deficit and lose weight
- More regular
- Excellent food
- Improved blood lipids
The cons would be:- Inconvenience
- Ummmm......
Cons would be no yummy carbs
No yummy carbs? No no. This thread was about low carb diet and not a carnivorous, almost no carb diet.
I eat a very low carb, ketogenic diet yet last night I had green beans with butter, pork roast with some gravy, and a slice of carrot cake. There's a few things in that meal that qualify as yummy barely any carbs.Fact or fiction? It's a real way to eat. I am not sure what you mean with that.
I don't think it is a fad. That would imply it is short lived and it was not an uncommon way to eat up into the 50s. Atkins has been around a few decades.
It can be good for those who need to reduce carbs for health reasons or enjoy eating that way.
Pros and cons are going to vary between people. I eat low carb and have for some months now. For me the pros are:- Improved blood glucose
- Improved autoimmune issues (pain reduction)
- Improved cognitive functions
- Improved energy
- Fewer headaches
- No more reactive hypoglycaemia
- Better skin
- Reduced appetite and cravings
- Easy to eat at a slight deficit and lose weight
- More regular
- Excellent food
- Improved blood lipids
The cons would be:- Inconvenience
- Ummmm......
OP just putting a disclaimer here that this is great for this poster but does may not apply to you or the rest of the population ...
Fixed.
fixed it for you
Barely any carbs isn't yummy to me.
Fixed it for you
Ditto, I can't stand low carb baked goods. The bread doesn't brown and any low carb baked good is pretty much like eating mud and feels like a rock in my stomach.
My carrot cake wasn't a low carb recipe. I just didn't eat much and scraped off some of the cream cheese icing - my mother makes it quite sweet.
Ahh ok I'm feeling better now.
I was...up until the part about scraping off some of the cream cheese icing.
What is the point of carrot cake if not all the cream cheese frosting?
When I was the Official Birthday Baker at work I had two coworkers who did not like the cream cheese frosting and so I made them carrot cake cupcakes without it.0 -
blankiefinder wrote: »blankiefinder wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »
From the freezer.....a red velvet, chocolate/vanilla, one caramel machhiatto, chocolate chocolate chip, and #5 is a mystery......
Oh I need these recipes
Seriously, typed a long reply and it posted the first 5 words? Like typing on a phone while working out is easy?
Take 2: my kids would love if I made any of those. Speaking of my kids if anyone has an excellent carrot cake muffin recipe please share. If I substitute applesauce for the oil I'm sure I can justify it as a good in-competition snack
Regular carrot cake batter works fine in muffin tins. You just cook for less time. I replace half the oil with applesauce.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »juggernaut1974 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wetcoaster wrote: »Wetcoaster wrote: »Fact or fiction? It's a real way to eat. I am not sure what you mean with that.
I don't think it is a fad. That would imply it is short lived and it was not an uncommon way to eat up into the 50s. Atkins has been around a few decades.
It can be good for those who need to reduce carbs for health reasons or enjoy eating that way.
Pros and cons are going to vary between people. I eat low carb and have for some months now. For me the pros are:- Improved blood glucose
- Improved autoimmune issues (pain reduction)
- Improved cognitive functions
- Improved energy
- Fewer headaches
- No more reactive hypoglycaemia
- Better skin
- Reduced appetite and cravings
- Easy to eat at a slight deficit and lose weight
- More regular
- Excellent food
- Improved blood lipids
The cons would be:- Inconvenience
- Ummmm......
Cons would be no yummy carbs
No yummy carbs? No no. This thread was about low carb diet and not a carnivorous, almost no carb diet.
I eat a very low carb, ketogenic diet yet last night I had green beans with butter, pork roast with some gravy, and a slice of carrot cake. There's a few things in that meal that qualify as yummy barely any carbs.Fact or fiction? It's a real way to eat. I am not sure what you mean with that.
I don't think it is a fad. That would imply it is short lived and it was not an uncommon way to eat up into the 50s. Atkins has been around a few decades.
It can be good for those who need to reduce carbs for health reasons or enjoy eating that way.
Pros and cons are going to vary between people. I eat low carb and have for some months now. For me the pros are:- Improved blood glucose
- Improved autoimmune issues (pain reduction)
- Improved cognitive functions
- Improved energy
- Fewer headaches
- No more reactive hypoglycaemia
- Better skin
- Reduced appetite and cravings
- Easy to eat at a slight deficit and lose weight
- More regular
- Excellent food
- Improved blood lipids
The cons would be:- Inconvenience
- Ummmm......
OP just putting a disclaimer here that this is great for this poster but does may not apply to you or the rest of the population ...
Fixed.
fixed it for you
Barely any carbs isn't yummy to me.
Fixed it for you
Ditto, I can't stand low carb baked goods. The bread doesn't brown and any low carb baked good is pretty much like eating mud and feels like a rock in my stomach.
My carrot cake wasn't a low carb recipe. I just didn't eat much and scraped off some of the cream cheese icing - my mother makes it quite sweet.
Ahh ok I'm feeling better now.
I was...up until the part about scraping off some of the cream cheese icing.
What is the point of carrot cake if not all the cream cheese frosting?
Some people don't like cream cheese frosting?
I don't need that kind of negativity in my life
+1. The cream cheese frosting is the only reason to eat a carrot cake, IMO. Red Velvet Cake is a much better vehicle for cream cheese frosting...
Maybe I just haven't had a good one, but I don't understand the big deal over red velvet cake. The one I've truly enjoyed beyond the fact that it's cake is from Nothing Bundt Cakes.
Did you have real red velvet cake? The one made with beet?
http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1016333-beet-red-velvet-cake
This might be the only way to get me to eat beets...and red velvet cake, which I avoid when it contains food dye.
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juggernaut1974 wrote: »Peanut butter frosting
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#WhyNotBoth
http://www.food.com/recipe/peanut-butter-cream-cheese-frosting-88800
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kshama2001 wrote: »Point was that eating habits of people don't change much unless intentionally changed. If one eats within their calorie range with the variety of food they like and continue it for life, chances are their weight won't fluctuate as much either.
Theoretically yes. Put in practice, very often not. Above, I listed the foodz I very much like, and have eaten all my life. I don't moderate those foodz successfully - never have and never will. And I know I'm not alone in this.
Most people don't gain weight eating too many vegetables and fresh fruits. Something like chicken is easily overeaten when breaded and fried or drenched in a corn starchy gravy laden with sugar and soy sauce as in a Chinese restaurant. If that same chicken was not breaded or fried, not dressed with starchy gravy, not stuffed with Stouffer's and not soaked in a sugar sweetened marinade, the notion of overeating it would be far less attractive.
But I know you're not in my camp. So we'll agree to disagree.
Well, I agree that if all you allow yourself are foods that don't taste good, the notion of overeating would be far less attractive.
The problem with your argument is that there's plenty of highly palatable ways to eat chicken that are not breaded or fried, not dressed with starchy gravy, not stuffed with Stouffer's and not soaked in a sugar sweetened marinade. If it's tasty, some people will overeat it.
I'm not sure if you thought I was saying eating food that doesn't taste good is what enables one to not overeat food. I wasn't though.
Taking the chicken example. Here's a practically universally tasty way of eating chicken that doesn't involve marinade, breading, frying, gravy or stuffing.
One Kosher whole chicken leg with skin, placed in a small baking dish with a half a cup of water at the bottom. Bake without covering at 400 degrees Fahrenheit until skin is crispy, dark meat inside is tender and moist and the bottom of the baking contains a nice oily juice to pour over the chicken and accompanying vegetables, seasoned perfectly by the Kosher salting process. Compatible with Paleo, low carb and Keto. Delicious, but usually not a stuff-your-face-with-it-food-until-you-need-a-nap-or-an-ambulance, like Popeyes, Kentucky Fried, chicken fingers or Szechuan chicken.
And yes, yes, I know MFP is full of sane and moderated former chubs who luv to science and never did this in the first place. They got fat eating too many mangos, asparagus salad and oat porridge. But for the rest of us...
True for me. I'll eat 4 ounces of roast chicken, enjoy every bite, and feel no urge for seconds. (I will have also had a starchy and non-starchy veg with this meal.)
But General Tso's Chicken is indeed another story. (I will also have had a starchy and non-starchy veg with this.)
I made this http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10306894/general-tso-chicken-236-calories/p1 the other night and my OH complained several times that it was not sweet enough.
Seriously? That recipe is awesome! My fiance loved it, although he was surprised to find out it was supposed to be General Tso's chicken; I'll take it as a win...0 -
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I am on page two of responses and I'll be honest, I am not gonna read anymore. The next 5 pages will probably be more of the same. Sorry, not sorry.
Okay, here's the situation. (if you are not humming...'my parents went away for a week's vacation'....I don't wanna know you).
Is low carb a fad? No. Can it be? Heck yeah.
I lost the 60 pounds in my ticker using a low carb approach. As a vegetarian, I do it a little bit differently than most and looked to have a net carb load of about 50 to sometimes topping out at 80. I was able to maintain a low level of ketosis that way. (I only say this because it was stated by Nage that it would be better to hear from those who did a keto diet and not the anti low carb folk). So...there it is.
I also have a FitBit and spend my weekends eating lots of food and sometimes....beer (not often though, not my jam). I do that because I tend to run my little booty off during the weekends and therefore get to eat ALL THE FOOD. I am in maintenance now and no longer eat a low carb lifestyle because I no longer find it necessary.
I liked low carb. I liked how I felt a surge in energy. I liked how I had a decrease in hunger. It was the easiest way for me to maintain a caloric deficit. It worked for me. I was able to be active, not be hungry, move more and eat less. I am also a runner and as I was approaching and then headed into maintenance, I was also training for my first half marathon. I was so glad I hit goal when I did because moving away from low carb is what was best when my weekend training miles was hitting 15 to 20 miles. I was able to run about 6 to 8 miles on low carb eating, but once I went beyond that level...I would hit the wall. I went to fueling my day and my workouts with much more carbs and so happy as a result.
So, low carb does work, but when I think it gets to be a fad is when people claim that it has magical properties that it does not have. I think it becomes a fad when people say or believe that it is necessary to lose weight. It is a fad when my co-worker says, "I can eat nothing and one slice of bread and not be able to lose weight because your body won't lose if you eat carbs." NO CO-WORKER. No. Or when hearing that low carb is for those who are stronger or have a higher level of compliance than the average simple dieter and therefore it is the best way of the most dedicated. That isn't my experience. I did low carb because it was the EASIEST way for me to maintain a deficit.
It's not a fad, but it's also not necessary. It is one way of many to do CICO and maintain a deficit. Find what way is the easiest and do that. DO THE EASIEST. That's my wordy, but simple advice. Take it for the 2 cents it is worth.
(If the past 5 pages already stated this and I am just being redundant...my apologies). + of course cupcakes
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Yes and know. It can work just like a diet of all McDonalds could work. It's just that cutting out carbs makes it alot easier for some people to create a deficit. If I went to mcdonalds 3 times a day and ate 3 500 calorie meals i would still lose weight.0
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BecomingBane wrote: »Peanut butter frosting
/threadjuggernaut1974 wrote: »Peanut butter frosting
/thread
#WhyNotBoth
http://www.food.com/recipe/peanut-butter-cream-cheese-frosting-88800
^These.... I feel like something happened just now that opened up the heavens and let the light and strange invisible chorus shine through.
Ok, stupid question, but what's the vegan substitution for cream cheese? I could see tofu having a similar texture, but replicating the flavor I would think would be rather difficult.
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
Macaroons?0 -
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
C'est tres bon.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
C'est tres bon.
They are, I'm heading into Paris tomorrow to spend some time with my daughter. We'll hit Laduree like locusts.0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
C'est tres bon.
They are, I'm heading into Paris tomorrow to spend some time with my daughter. We'll hit Laduree like locusts.
Have fun 0
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