Everyone told me coconut oil was good for me
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I have a Pampered Chef one. Just measured (sprayed into a bowl and let it drip into a measuring spoon). It took 12 short sprays to get 1/16 of a teaspoon. Granted some stuck inside the bowl a bit, but my measurements seem fairly accurate. I add about 3 sprays to my pan to scramble my egg in the morning. You can also find them at Target, etc.
This is a reply to the "where to get a sprayer and how much per spray" question. Thought I hit the correct "reply" button, but alas, I goofed.0 -
I see what everyone here is saying... But saturated fat IS the "bad" fat that everyone should stay away from...you want omega3, and monounsaturated0
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It just doesn't fit my macros. If your not going to answer the question, move along please.
First off...... *RuDE*
Second Off.... If it doesn't work for you then as you suggested why don't you just try butter or crisco.... Or *WOW* they make this stuff called Pam.... It's really low in calories. Try that.0 -
" I might as well be using butter or crisco vegetable oil. "
No. Coconut oil is much richer nutritionally than those things. And like the others said---it's a matter of "good" fats & "bad" fats. Also, 90 calories is a drop in a bucket of your overall calorie intake for the day. As long as you aren't globbing coconut oil on everything, it shouldn't be a calorie suck.
There are 0 calorie cooking sprays & whatever, if you REALLY are that scared of coconut oil, but those sprays are full of chemicals & don't have any nutritional value.
I don't need nutritional value, just something to fry my mushrooms in that is low fat and low calorie.
Yes I wont use the sprays, who knows what is in those.
You don't care about nutritional value, but won't use sprays? Get over the crap you've been told about fat. Coconut oil, and all healthy fats, are not the devil. I put coconut oil in my coffee, cook with it, get 60% of my calories from fat, and am losing about 3 pounds per week. Insulin. Insulin is what drives fat gain and loss.
Im insulin resistant so my doctor has me on a very low fat diet. I can get no more than 10% of my calories from fat.
I would seriously get a second opinion about that low fat diet. It is pretty much the opposite of what you want to be doing to control your insulin. Low fat diets are extremely hard to sustain for the long term.
http://www.amyjol.com/2013/06/low-carbohydrate-diet-improved-hba1c-weight-loss-in-diabetes.html
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/#axzz2YU4h94jp0 -
who knew they made such things??? any idea how much OO per spray??? or where to find out??Buy an oil spray pump and put organic extra virgin olive oil in it. Spray it in a warm pan. It'll be less calories but still 100% good for you.
Or just buy an awesome titanium (not teflon - because teflon is bad) non-stick pan and forget the oil.
I bought my pump sprayer at costco - a 2 pack for $20. You just put the oil in and pump it up then spray. It works pretty good too. I use it to spray on oil for roasting veggies too.
As for the calories.... There is no way to know for sure but I use 25 calories for a light mist and 50 if it blobs a bit - I am usually using a medium frying pan and cooking for two so I'd double it for a recipe. The above numbers is what I use per serving.0 -
I see what everyone here is saying... But saturated fat IS the "bad" fat that everyone should stay away from...you want omega3, and monounsaturated
wrong. Hydrogenated saturated fats - trans fats - and saturated fats from corn, soy, as well as from cows fed corn and soy, are the bad fats. Grass fed meat has the perfect Omega 3:6 ratio. Vegetable oils are all very high in omega 6 as well. Fats from whole food sources come in the correct ratios, where manufactured fats as skewed to Omega 6 making them inflammatory eaten alone without an omega 3 supplementation.0 -
Move alongSo you want to be able to fry your mushrooms with something low fat and low calorie without too many chemicals? May I suggest unicorn oil? You can find it in the magical fantasy aisle of any grocery store. Either make it fit in your macros by dropping something else or give up the notion that your mushrooms *have* to be fried.
Why don't you go stick your unicorn horn up your *kitten* and try being helpful instead of an a-hole.0 -
When I fry mushrooms I start with just a little olive oil in the pan (about a teaspoon), then add stock if they need more liquid. The initial time in the oil helps give them that flavor but not so much fat. Try a homemade vegetable stock (or beef if you're not vegetarian) so you can control the sodium. I like adding onions and garlic to my mushrooms for some extra flavor as well. If you don't like onions, try some onion powder just to impart the flavor.0
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This has probably already been said but I am not going through seven pages. If you like coconut oil then use it. It's not the miracle supplement that people would like you to believe. It lacks EFAs such as the omega 3, 6 and 9.0
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So you want to be able to fry your mushrooms with something low fat and low calorie without too many chemicals? May I suggest unicorn oil? You can find it in the magical fantasy aisle of any grocery store. Either make it fit in your macros by dropping something else or give up the notion that your mushrooms *have* to be fried.
This...
And you madam are my hero.0 -
So you want to be able to fry your mushrooms with something low fat and low calorie without too many chemicals? May I suggest unicorn oil? You can find it in the magical fantasy aisle of any grocery store. Either make it fit in your macros by dropping something else or give up the notion that your mushrooms *have* to be fried.
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Yikes! Not a bit of common sense here. Anybody that thinks that the fat in coconut oil is a good fat is buying into some kind of crazy sh**. The fat in coconut oil is 92%, I'll say that again 92%, saturated. Anyone here want to say that saturated fat is good for you raise your hand. No one? That's what I thought. As a comparison the fat in beef is only 50% saturated. The fat in butter is 63% saturated. You would be better off stirring butter into your coffee that coconut oil. If you want to eat coconut oil go ahead. Like anything else, moderation is the key. But saying the fat in coconut oil is a "good fat" is just insane. There is not one single piece of medical or scientific evidence or research that proves coconut oil is beneficial in any way. On the other hand we have butt loads of medical evidence that proves that too much saturated fat is horrible for your heart, arteries and intenstine. By simply applying a little common sense one could figure out that a fat that is 92% saturated could not possibly be a "good fat".
*raises hands*
*also raises hand*
Directly from my textbook (I'm currently studying to become a nutritionist):
Short Chain Fatty Acids, Medium Chain Fatty Acids, and Long Chain Fatty Acids are ways of classifying fatty acids according to their length. Our bodies need all three kinds of fatty acids to remain healthy. There is another equally important feature that must be determined for all fatty acids, regardless of how long they are: their degree of saturation. Just like a sponge can be saturated with water, fatty acids can also be saturated, not with water but with hydrogen. Just like a saturated sponge is holding all the water it can possibly hold, a saturated fatty acid is holding all of the hydrogen it can possibly hold. If it isn’t, it is called unsaturated. **To remain healthy, our bodies need fatty acids not only of all three lengths, but also of both types.**
When a fatty acid is fully saturated, it interacts the least with other molecules in the body, and it provides the most stable structure. Saturated fats are helpful structurally because they help stabilize cell membranes, and they are not very susceptible to damage because they are primarily inert and non-interactive. Unsaturated fatty acids are much more interactive and susceptible to damage, but they are critical in the body because they provide flexibility to cell membranes and allow the cells to stay in dynamic communication with their surroundings.
Point being, saturated fats ARE good for you, like everything else, in moderation.
Really?
Medical, heart-health, and governmental authorities, such as the World Health Organization, the American Dietetic Association, the Dietitians of Canada, the British Dietetic Association, American Heart Association, the British Heart Foundation, the World Heart Federation, the British National Health Service, the United States Food and Drug Administration, and the European Food Safety Authority advise that saturated fat is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease (CVD). So, in what way is risking CVD a good thing? Point being, there are plenty of other oils much better for you than coconut oil. Other oils such as olive, walnut, and avocado have "proven" health benefits were as coconut oil as no proven health benefits.0 -
Absofreakinglutely! It beats the hell out of canola oil/soybean oil/etc.. Olive oil is ok, but can go rancid at high temps. Saturated fats have gotten a bad wrap with little evidence and coconut oil has some interestin properties compared to traditional animal (saturated) fats.Anyone here want to say that saturated fat is good for you raise your hand.0 -
Absofreakinglutely! It beats the hell out of canola oil/soybean oil/etc.. Olive oil is ok, but can go rancid at high temps. Saturated fats have gotten a bad wrap with little evidence and coconut oil has some interestin properties compared to traditional animal (saturated) fats.Anyone here want to say that saturated fat is good for you raise your hand.
OO OOoo mee! ME!!!! :drinker:0 -
Trader joes makes a coconut oil spray that is 0 Caloires and pan fries stuff just like oil. its a cooking spray!! check it out
You know that this is serving size dependant, right? A tablespoon of coconut oil coming out of a spray bottle has the same amount of calories as a tablespoon of cocunut oil coming out of a jar. I've never met anyone with the reflexes to hold down a nozzle for .04 seconds . . . just saying.0 -
Really?
Medical, heart-health, and governmental authorities, such as the World Health Organization, the American Dietetic Association, the Dietitians of Canada, the British Dietetic Association, American Heart Association, the British Heart Foundation, the World Heart Federation, the British National Health Service, the United States Food and Drug Administration, and the European Food Safety Authority advise that saturated fat is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease (CVD). So, in what way is risking CVD a good thing? Point being, there are plenty of other oils much better for you than coconut oil. Other oils such as olive, walnut, and avocado have "proven" health benefits were as coconut oil as no proven health benefits.
Not to cherry-pick and disregard all the other sources that you've listed, I'm at work so don't have time to look into all of them, but you can't seriously be holding up the FDA as a reliable source for determining what's healthy for us and what isn't? I would assume that all of those sources are just as potentially corrupt, and the reason this whole "low-fat yay sugar" craze started in the first place was that it was the most profitable for all involved, without any regard for what was actually better for us. Again I'm not currently able to find and cite a bunch of sources, but I'm sure there's at least a few people here that would agree?
That said, I'm not trying to hold up coconut oil as a wonder food, I've never even tried it, I was just responding to the assertion that saturated fats are never good for us, which I feel is not true.0 -
Yikes! Not a bit of common sense here. Anybody that thinks that the fat in coconut oil is a good fat is buying into some kind of crazy sh**. The fat in coconut oil is 92%, I'll say that again 92%, saturated. Anyone here want to say that saturated fat is good for you raise your hand. No one? That's what I thought. As a comparison the fat in beef is only 50% saturated. The fat in butter is 63% saturated. You would be better off stirring butter into your coffee that coconut oil. If you want to eat coconut oil go ahead. Like anything else, moderation is the key. But saying the fat in coconut oil is a "good fat" is just insane. There is not one single piece of medical or scientific evidence or research that proves coconut oil is beneficial in any way. On the other hand we have butt loads of medical evidence that proves that too much saturated fat is horrible for your heart, arteries and intenstine. By simply applying a little common sense one could figure out that a fat that is 92% saturated could not possibly be a "good fat".
The Tokelau (with their 50% dietary saturated fat intake), the Masai (with their diet of meat, blood, and milk), and the Inuit (with their ancestral diet of high-blubber animals) people all have superior CV health to most Americans.
But maybe you just want to be stubborn and disregard these people as outliers.
The maligning of saturated fat started with Ancel Keys, who did a study he called the Seven Countries study, many moons ago, named for the seven countries that saw an increase in heart disease cases correspond with increased fat consumption. However, he omitted data from twenty-two other countries that showed a very weak correlation between saturated fat intake and heart disease.
The red dots are the countries that had 'correlation' between sat fat and cv disease. Good luck drawing a line through the rest of those dots.
This is as much work as I'm going to put into convincing people to eat healthy fats and fuel their bodies properly. It's your job to do your own research properly. It's your own choice what you eat, and cheers to that. I'm going to keep being awesome and eating grass-fed meat, butter, avos, coconuts, yum, yum, yum.
PS- hand permanently raised.0 -
This post has become way to serious.
First: Check your macros. If it fits, you can eat it. If it doesn't then you shouldn't.
Second: Make sure your getting a couple servings of fruits and vegatables a day.
I've done the whole eating perfect healthy foods (paleo, primal...w/e) thing, and this is far more sustainable. What you lose in nutritional value, you'll probably gain in lack of stress. The amount everyone freaks out about what they eat is going to give them the same heart attack that all the carbs...saturated fat...sodium...etc... was going to give you in the first place.
Step back, chill out, and enjoy. Its not complicated unless you make it that way.0 -
Yikes! Not a bit of common sense here. Anybody that thinks that the fat in coconut oil is a good fat is buying into some kind of crazy sh**. The fat in coconut oil is 92%, I'll say that again 92%, saturated. Anyone here want to say that saturated fat is good for you raise your hand. No one? That's what I thought. As a comparison the fat in beef is only 50% saturated. The fat in butter is 63% saturated. You would be better off stirring butter into your coffee that coconut oil. If you want to eat coconut oil go ahead. Like anything else, moderation is the key. But saying the fat in coconut oil is a "good fat" is just insane. There is not one single piece of medical or scientific evidence or research that proves coconut oil is beneficial in any way. On the other hand we have butt loads of medical evidence that proves that too much saturated fat is horrible for your heart, arteries and intenstine. By simply applying a little common sense one could figure out that a fat that is 92% saturated could not possibly be a "good fat".
this is the most misinformed post in this entire thread. The lipid hypothesis is bull**** and I have the blood panel to prove it. Consuming saturated fat from healthy sourced (coconut oil, BUTTER, grass fed RIBEYES) I have increased my HDL cholesterol ny unheard of amounts, my LDL remained the same, tryglycerides were off the chart low, BG was perfect also. Much different than 6 months before when I was eating a lower fat diet of refined carbohydrates. Your whole post is 100% wrong.0 -
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It just doesn't fit my macros. If your not going to answer the question, move along please.
First off...... *RuDE*
Second Off.... If it doesn't work for you then as you suggested why don't you just try butter or crisco.... Or *WOW* they make this stuff called Pam.... It's really low in calories. Try that.
Third off... *you're
If you're gonna be rude, at least do so with proper spelling. Unless, of course, that doesn't fit your macros either. :flowerforyou:0 -
This post has become way to serious.
First: Check your macros. If it fits, you can eat it. If it doesn't then you shouldn't.
Second: Make sure your getting a couple servings of fruits and vegatables a day.
I've done the whole eating perfect healthy foods (paleo, primal...w/e) thing, and this is far more sustainable. What you lose in nutritional value, you'll probably gain in lack of stress. The amount everyone freaks out about what they eat is going to give them the same heart attack that all the carbs...saturated fat...sodium...etc... was going to give you in the first place.
Step back, chill out, and enjoy. Its not complicated unless you make it that way.
You might need to read through the posts. The OP is upset at coconut oil and any other suggestions (minus zero calorie sprays) because they won't fit into her fat macro...which she custom set to 10%. -.-0 -
I use the Misto brand oil sprayer ten bucks and no chemicals.0
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I thought that coconut fat was controversial and that there was not enough research on it to tell if it was good for us or not.
This....
Just because the vegetarians/vegans say it's good, doesn't always mean it is...
I would use butter/lard because it's more available to me. If you can find fresh butter from a local farmer, that's even better.
I don't believe that animal fat is bad for you, but everything can be if you eat a lot of it
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I get pretty annoyed by the fact that all fats have 9 calories per gram too, and that I have to somehow cram 60 grams of it into my calorie budget, which means if I get all the protein I want to get I end up having to cut almost all dry carbs. Which sucks for me because I know that I feel best and perform best when I have one or two portions four times a day.
Y'all, I wonder if somehow the message got garbled in transmission and her doctor wanted her to eat 60/30/10 fat/protein/carb. That would make a hell of a lot more sense to me. I personally would hate that diet and would be telling doc to blow it out his gasket, but it would make more sense in light of insulin resistance!0 -
In for the fats.
About 50% of my diet is delicious, tasty fat. How could I live without cashews, peanut butter, kipper snacks, and cheese? Let's not even get started on amazing foods like bacon and eggs.
... Guess I'm having brinner tonight!0 -
It just doesn't fit my macros. If your not going to answer the question, move along please.
First off...... *RuDE*
Second Off.... If it doesn't work for you then as you suggested why don't you just try butter or crisco.... Or *WOW* they make this stuff called Pam.... It's really low in calories. Try that.
Third off... *you're
If you're gonna be rude, at least do so with proper spelling. Unless, of course, that doesn't fit your macros either. :flowerforyou:
Great minds think alike. If you're going to be rude, at least be your own spelling Nazi. Gee whiz.
Olive oil is good for a quick stir fry, but if you're going to nickel and dime your macros, I'm afraid nothing will help you other than plain water.0 -
Have you tried frying them in water but using a bit of seasoning to give them some flavour?0
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LOL, I find primalish the most relaxed way of eating ever. It’s so easy and tasty. Some meat, some veggies, a little fat, a little cheese, a little potato... It's not that complicated and it is very low stress to me. Maybe if you naturally freak out over everything that's not 'perfect' or 'clean', but if you are not naturally obsessive then it's very easy.The amount everyone freaks out about what they eat is going to give them the same heart attack that all the carbs...saturated fat...sodium...etc... was going to give you in the first place.
I tried the eat 6 times a day in tiny meals and THAT was way stressful to me.
Also, the IEatTonsOfMeaters like it. So what does it say that both these groups are fond? You don’t have to use coconut oil, but I find it more useful than butter for some things. I’m a little more leery of the lard sources. I don’t have a problem with the idea of lard, but I don’t know where to get good stuff while coconut oil is everywhere. So grass fed butter, coconut oil and olive oil, all used for different things, works perfectly for me.Just because the vegetarians/vegans say it's good0 -
I'd say most health organizations are pretty adament that you should seriously limit the amount of saturated fat you eat each day.
I wouldn't say that the apparently misinformed notion that saturated fat is bad for you is a reason to yell at the OP or anyone who was also misinformed. I, myself, am still pretty skeptical and am fairly certain that saturated fat may be necessary for health but only in the smallest (5 g or less/ day) amounts.
Note, I'm saying saturated fat not all fats. I think people aren't understanding that the conversation hasn't been about fats in general, just saturated fat. Most people who are informed about their health are aware that low-fat isn't healthful, although again I don't think that's something someone can be chewed out for that because it was "common fact" for a long time.
But that's just me. I don't like implying that people are stupid for not knowing that general health myths are incorrect. Most people are misinformed about nutrition and weight loss. It's a learning process.0
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