November 2016 Running Challenge
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November running
11/01: day off
11/02: day off
11/03: 3.5
11/04: day off
11/05: 4.25
11/06: day off
11/07: 3.5
11/08: day off
11/09: 3.5
11/10: day off
11/11: day off ugh!
11/12: 4.25
11/13: 3.5
11/14: day off
11/15: 3.5
11/16: day off
11/17: 3.5
11/18: day off
11/19: 3.5
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kristinegift wrote: »11/1: 8.5 miles
11/2: 6.7 miles
11/3: 3.6 miles (am), 6 miles (pm)
11/4: Rest
11/5: 14 miles
11/6: NYCM spectating!
11/7: 3 miles
11/8: 3 miles (am), 6 miles (pm)
11/9: 4.5 miles
11/10: 5.5 miles (am), no pm run
11/11: 4.4 miles
11/12: 10 miles
11/13: 5.5 miles
11/14: 3.3 miles
11/15: Rest day finally!
11/16: 6 miles
11/17: 3 miles with the Thursday crew
11/18: Rest/expo day
11/19: 3 miles
3 slow, chatty, excited miles this morning to shake out the cobwebs before the big day. I AM SO EXCITED. I am not injured. I am not having a Lady Time. I am not riddled with anxiety. I feel really good about tomorrow which is not something I've ever felt before a marathon before. Spending the day eating, working from home a little bit, and watching Spirit of the Marathon while I do my last bit of race prep (painting my nails, packing my gear check bag, charging all my gadgets, etc.).
If anyone wants to track me tomorrow, the Philadelphia Marathon has a free app and I'm the only person with the last name Gift registered / I'm bib #2265
Fall Race Season & Next Year:
10/8: Coe College Homecoming 5k: 21:26
10/16: Superhero Halloween Half Marathon: 1:42:24
11/20: Philadelphia Marathon (Goal: BQ-3 = 3:32 or better)
3/26/17: Philly Love Run HM
5/14/17: Delaware Marathon Running Festival HMkristinegift wrote: »OSUbuckeye906 wrote: »@kristinegift Good luck! Excited for you! I know you're trying to BQ, but what is your specific time/pace goal?
@OSUbuckeye906 Goal time is 3:32 (need about a 3 minute buffer to actually get IN to Boston these days, and my BQ standard is 3:35) and I'll happily take anything that's faster than that. Goal pace is ~8:00 by my watch, will be about ~8:05 by the clock if the course runs a bit long.
Wow! Good luck tomorrow (or rather later today)! I am so in awe of you marathoners!1 -
16th: 0.86 miles running - treadmill, strength training and Pilates - MTD 21.81
17th: 2.51 miles, speed, with a bit of hill training with my running club - MTD 24.32
18th: 0 miles - MTD 24.32
19th: 2.56 miles Wk7:D3 C210k. Tightness on outside of both calfs meant last 6 minutes were brisk walking, sharp sleet for a chunk of the run - MTD 26.88
Fleet feet and a good run for your marathon @kristinegift1 -
lissadecker wrote: »So, I have been thinking more and more about the possibility of running a marathon. I am encouraged by my progress so far, but I have only been at this for a couple of months and am running very slowly for no more than 5 miles at a time yet. The Houston Marathon is run in January. My understanding is that you can sign up for next year's race on race day with a guaranteed spot, avoiding the lottery. I could also at that time sign up for a warm up series which would include a half marathon in October, a 25K in November and a 30K in December along with the Marathon in January, 2018. So, I guess I have until January to decide if I want to commit to this now or take a chance on not being able to do it later if it fills up. I am just not really sure if I am being realistic. Will I really be ready to run a marathon in just over a year? Judging by what I have done so far, I would say it is not outside the realm of possibility...but a lot can happen in a year. So, while I spend the next two months (give or take) mulling it over, I thought I would ask if y'all had any thoughts or advice that might help.
@lissadecker I'm going to go against much of the accepted grain, and says that if it is a real target of yours then go for it. Having a year to do it in gives you a clear focus for how to spend the year, and enough time to build up the distance sensibly. Having the end goal is also a great motivator on the cold/wet/windy days when you might otherwise struggle to drag yourself out. As others have said it's not a straight linear extension from running 10K -> HM -> Full Marathon. I would personally say there are two things you have to be ultra realistic about before you commit:
1) Aims for your marathon - is your aim just to finish? If so, you will be able to do it but it may not be as pleasant an experience as if you took another year to get there for example.
2) Time - Are you dedicated to doing this and can you fit it in? As your runs get longer you are going to have to commit much more time to running and related activities, and your long runs could be 3-4 hours long towards the end of the year, and your "short" runs could easily be 1hr+ several times a week. Does your home/work situation allow you to do this? Do you have partner/family support (if applicable)?
I will caveat all of above by saying I have never done a marathon myself, (but like you looking to do one quite quickly). However, I do have some experience in endurance events (i.e. 100mile cycling sportives) - admittedly from quite a few years back, but it gives me confidence about my ability to get there, as well as an understanding of things like training plans, nutrition etc.0 -
Held off my planned long run until lunch time to try to let the worst of the storm pass before I headed out. Was still *very* windy when I went out but most of the rain had passed. Anyway, set out for 18k+. However, my left achilles was slightly tight and just couldn't shake it off. Between 5km and 7km my right knee joined in - probably where I was subconsciously trying to compensate. I started to pay more attention to my form at this point and the knee was better instantly, but unfortunately the tendon seemed to get tighter. Stopped a couple of times to try to stretch it out, and would be better for a kilometre or so then return but eventually decided to stop about 11k when it started to get a little worse, (fortunately I had decided to do a loop run and was near home at this point). Fine now after shower and stretch, but rest/stretch/roll tomorrow then will see how rest of week goes.
2-Nov: 13.1k - 3 laps of hilly route.
4-Nov: 6.26k - Planned 11k easy, but cut short as very stiff/tired.
7-Nov: 11.25k long run.
9-Nov: 6k fast
12-Nov: 18k long run [Distance PR] Very wet.
14-Nov (AM): 5.1k easy. Wet and sluggish (no warm-up)
14-Nov (PM): 10k as 5k tempo + 5k intervals
16-Nov: 8.3k - 2 laps of hill circuit
19-Nov: 7.4k trail run at approx HM pace.
20-Nov: 11.5k long run - had hoped for longer but tight left achilles.2 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »OK, I give in, I never thought I'd say this....but....any good recommendations for running tights for winter? I'm looking at temps possibly below 0F for running, but pants get too baggy at times.
I have two pair of running tights. My New Balance Impact tights are good for 35F down to about 10F. Anything colder than that and I pull out my SmartWool PhD tights. I wore them down to -7F (-23F windchill) last year and they were still warm enough. I am investing in a pair of wind shorts for this year though. Last winter I almost froze my junk. If it gets really cold you could put your running pants over the tights.1 -
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »OK, I give in, I never thought I'd say this....but....any good recommendations for running tights for winter? I'm looking at temps possibly below 0F for running, but pants get too baggy at times.
I have two pair of running tights. My New Balance Impact tights are good for 35F down to about 10F. Anything colder than that and I pull out my SmartWool PhD tights. I wore them down to -7F (-23F windchill) last year and they were still warm enough. I am investing in a pair of wind shorts for this year though. Last winter I almost froze my junk. If it gets really cold you could put your running pants over the tights.
SmartWool tights. Dang. Didn't know that was a thing that existed. Must check it out.
The wind shorts are a wise investment. And then there's always this.
I'm sipping coffee now and warming up to the idea of getting out the door for my first real cold weather run of the season. Just looked at the thermometer and it said 26.2F. Must be an omen! ;-) Not at all windy this morning, so this shouldn't be bad at all.1 -
@kristinegift was 2:34:58 at 30k1
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@MNLittleFinn - they are cycling tights but you might find Sugoi Subzero tights useful for your Minnesota winter running. I wore mine for running all last winter and was very happy with them.
Go @kristinegift !!!
Date:: :::: Miles :::: Nov total (goal = 75)
11/01/16 :::: 5.7 :::: 5.7
11/02/16 :::: 2.9 :::: 8.5
11/03/16 :::: 2.2 :::: 10.7
11/04/16 :::: 2.0 :::: 12.7
11/05/16 :::: 6.4 :::: 19.1
11/06/16 :::: 2.5 :::: 21.6
11/07/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 21.6
11/08/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 21.6
11/09/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 24.0
11/10/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 24.0
11/11/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 26.5
11/12/16 :::: 7.2 :::: 33.7
11/13/16 :::: 3.1 :::: 36.8
11/14/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 39.5
11/15/16 :::: 5.6 :::: 45.1
11/16/16 :::: 2.7 :::: 47.9
11/17/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 47.9
11/18/16 :::: 2.2 :::: 50.0
11/19/16 :::: 7.3 :::: 57.3
11/20/16 :::: 3.0 :::: 60.3
Three miles done this morning with Stella along the canal. It was chilly but not horrible because the trees blocked the wind, and there was just a little mixed precip. Now the snow has started again but nothing sticking yet. I'm glad to have gotten the run done and can now stay inside toasty warm and watch the snow fly.
I'm at 80% of the mileage goal for the month with 10 days left, so it's looking good.0 -
I've been using the Nike app on my phone & I like it but since the last update it messes up on long distances. I put in my goal distance and then after mile 3 it reverts back to the default goal of 2.5 miles. It's annoying & one time didn't record my splits.
I have the fit bit surge but the battery drains if I use the run feature. I still wear it because it detects I'm running & I can easily check the time and heart rate but it's not ideal for tracking.
So what I'm asking is what are your favorite run tracking devices? I don't want to spend a lot (maybe around $200). I don't need one that tracks steps. I don't need heart rate, but if it's built into I wouldn't mind. I don't use a chest strap though.
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@RunsOnEspresso you can get a garmin forerunner 230 in that price range. I love mine. It doesn't track HR on its own, but it does pair with the Garmin soft strap HRM for HR tracking.1
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3:51:57 finish time for @kristinegift0
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11/1- 6.05
11/2- 6.13
11/3- 6.01
11/4- 6.12
11/5- 10.25
11/6- Rest
11/7: 6.05
11/8- 6.01
11/9- 6.02
11/10- 6.14
11/11- 6.01
11/12-11.01
11/13- REST
11/14- 6.02
11/15- 6.06
11/16- 6.15
11/17- 6.41
11/18- 6.14 plus an hour and a half of snow shoveling
11/19- "rest" Does it really count as rest when you shovel snow for an hour?
11/20- 11.01
Total: 117.59/150
Today's notes: Today I sad *kitten* it, stopped all active HR monitoring and ran by how I felt. Ended up doing my 11 mile run in 1:45:54 for an average pace of 9:37. I know this was "too fast" and my average HR was "higher than it should be" at 162 average. Thing is, I felt WAY better running the 11 miles this pace than when I run slower. Of course, this now makes me confused about how I should run, but that's nothing new, I never know.
It was somewhat chilly, 9F when I started and around 11 F at the end. I got pretty hot on the run, with the sun out. It was a very good run, and I'm pleased to report that, except on ice, my Glycerin 14's worked great! I was really thinking I'd regret not going with my trail shoes, but I was pleasantly surprised!
All in all a great run, and I really enjoyed running a bit faster again. Oh, I'll write about winter wear in the winter running gear thread for the Long Distance Runners group.0 -
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It was a chilly run today -2c with northwesterly wind. Saw a beautiful family of deer, almost came eye to eye with the straggler that was crossing the trail!!1
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Got out for a hike to Ebbor Gorge yesterday once the rain had stopped. It was pretty much and a lot of up!! I go walking with a friend who's main hobby is walking, so I have to find time for non-running and non-dancing activities to!! I did reject the idea of another walk today.
Had planned a six mile run into the woods. Think I've given up on the HR thing for now - it was showing 202 after if been chatting to some dogwalkers so I just don't know what to make of it. Also I'm trying to increase my mileage and get into a routine so worrying about zones and stuff is probably one thing too many right now.
Ended up 6.6 miles, up a steep climb then around the woods, back down onto the towpath. Everyone was very friendly today, it must be a Sunday thing, dogwalkers, families, runners, cyclists, I must've spent the whole time saying 'good morning' to people!!!
Good to get out, probably overdid it and should've slowed my pace.
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A few slow miles around my favourite fields just because it was daylight and I've missed them this week.
November Running Challenge
2nd - 4.05 miles
3rd - 4.27 miles
5th - 4.60 miles
6th - 7.28 miles
7th-12th - injured
13th - 5.37 miles
15th - 3.20 miles
16th - 3.40 miles
18th - 3.08 miles
19th - 8.38 miles
20th - 4.03 miles
MTD - 47.66/80* miles
*Adjusted down due to injury
Upcoming races:
17th Dec - Lee Valley VeloPark Half Marathon
9th April 2017 - Brighton Marathon1 -
@midwesterner85 about walking during races: I walk at each aid station whan I want to drink. Running + drinking from a cup = choking and coughing for me, costs me a lot more time than just walking a bit.
For the rest of the race, I keep running. Not because I think there is something "wrong" about walking in a race, I'd just be worried that once I was walking, I wouldn't be tough enough to go back to running afterwards
I certainly wouldn't frown at anyone doing it - unless people are doing it in a group of four, blocking the road for everyone, or causing me to stumble into them because they suddenly walk sideways or backwards to take a better selfie, but than it's not the *walking* bit that I have a problem with...
@abqrnr Welcome! Running can be a nice stress relief after work, so restarting both at the same time sounds perfect.
@MNLittleFinn So you ran in an actual snowstorm? Wow! Could you even see where you were going?
I agree with @7lenny7 - flashlights beat headlamps in snow and fog. In addition to the headache effect, I prefer the light to reach the ground rather than illuminating all the floating water in front of my face.
@7lenny7 I have a pair of On shoes, the "Cloudflyer"s. Most expensive pair of running shoes I own, by at least factor two. Though that's more due to the fact that I bought them in downtown Geneva, cause I felt like buying in a store just for once, rather than ordening online... I guess I let the sales people at the store talk me into them - they are okay for running on roads, but don't do anything my "normal" shoes don't do. The quality of the shoes seems rather good. I replaced the thin laces, but that's just personal taste, they simply didn't feel like running shoe laces to me. The shoes are super annoying on rocky trails though, it feels rather uncomfortable when a stone gets stuck inside one of the air cushions (or whatever thez are called), and it's not always easy to clean those out..
@ceciliaslater I hope your leg will be 100% okay soon! The work situation sounds tough, hope that improves soon as well. I'm sure taking the lunch break is the right decision - it might not even mean staying later in the evening, maybe clearing your head in between will help; I know I turn into a zombie if I spent eight hours at my desk without a break!
@Orphia Congratulations on the PR. And that trail run looks awesome!
@greenolivetree Oh no, shin splins suck
How many miles do you have on your shoes? Even if they look new, the cushioning might be worn down. I have some shoes where the upper looks rather new-ish even after 700km, so I wouldn't judge by looks alone. Or maybe it would help if you were rotating between different shoes? I hardly ever run two days in a row in the same shoes.
@dkabambeP That riveside trail looks like a lovely place to run!
@ereck44 Sorry that your last run wasn't great. I hope the rest day helped the knee!
@lissadecker If you signed up for the 2018 marathon now, would there still be an option to downgrade it to a half marathon later? In that case, you could consider it, if you really want it. Although the sensible thing would be to wait another year and do a few halfs. I know that it helped me mentally with the long runs in training - I could tell myself "if I can race 21km, then I have enough energy left to run 10km after 21km at an easy jog". If you really want to do it, I'm sure you can - people have trained for a marathon in less than a year's time. But talking it a little slower might reduce your risk of injury and mean you have more run in the race.
(although I'm probably not one to talk, I ran my marathon half a year after my first half...
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@RunsOnEspresso I have the TomTom cardio watch with optical heart rate monitor. For running it works fine and does all I need, although sometimes the heart rate monitor doesn't work right on cold days. But if you were happy with the Nike app before, without a dedicated running watch, you could also check out Strava. I've set up my watch to synch my runs with their website, and when I don't have the watch with me (on weekend trips or simply forgotten in the apartment and too lazy to walk back up all the stairs to get it ^^), I use the Strava app for tracking. Works great, and I like the feature of planning routes on the computer and than loading the map on the phone so that I can check where to go in unfamilar areas. Since it's free, trying it out before you spend money on anything can't hurt.
@girlinahat Where there train tracks / power lines / other people with HRMs nearby when your heart rate monitor showed you the weird readings? Lots of things that can mess with them, aparently.1 -
@_nikkiwolf_ it wasn't that bad when I was running, snow/sleet mix with 20-30mph (32-48kmph) winds with some gusts to 45mph. I also found out that a cap with a bill takes care of the headache problem, and still provided enough light to see my feet.0
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11/1: 3
11/4: 4.2
11/6: 6
11/8: 3
11/10: 4
11/13: 7
11/16: 2.3
11/18: 4
11/20: 8
41.5 of 60
Training for: Key West Half Marathon, Jan 15, 2017
Slow and reasonably steady long run. Just for fun, I did this as a point to point training run. Now I need to go fetch my car! Good times on the LRT along Lake Minnetonka. Cloudy and cold, but not much wind so felt ok. Still, winter weather feels very different after being spoiled though this extended fall season.
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@_nikkiwolf_@girlinahat Where there train tracks / power lines / other people with HRMs nearby when your heart rate monitor showed you the weird readings? Lots of things that can mess with them, aparently
Now that's interesting - there is indeed a train line running along the first part of my run which I guess may have caused the massive initial spike (222 BPM). And then the last couple of miles are along the same path where the line runs (I run on a towpath along by a gorge, and there a freight line a few feet above the path through the rocks). Just looked at it on strava and it makes sense.
I'm going to have to do a test run somewhere else to see what it says!!
The other issue I have with using data is that most of my runs are on trails with hills, so unless I do a flat run (even all my races have been pretty much up and down) my pace 'time' will be slower because of it.
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After two weeks, today was finally I run I really enjoyed again! I've heard people say it's normal to feel a bit unmotivated in the weeks after a big race - but actually, I think in my case the weather is to blame. It's been raining almost non-stop for two weeks (with a bit of snow mixed in). I think six out of my last eight runs ended with me curled up under a blanket, clutching a cup of hot chocolate in an attempt to get warm again, while I listened to the annoying drop-drop-drop my running clothes made where I strung them up in the bathroom.
Yesterday I decided almost three weeks were enough marathon recovery that I could try a little speedwork again, just to shake it up a bit and have some fun. I planned 1km warm-up, 4km 10k pace, 1km cool-down. I even managed to time it right to have 10 rain-free minutes in the beginning - but when the rain returned, it brought back enough hail with it that I skipped most of the planned cool-down to get inside (not ideal, I know, but those hailstones stung!).
By some miracle, I woke up to blue skies and sunshine today. Combine that with the fact that the last couple of days were horribly wet, but warm enough to melt the snow we got last week, I decided it was a perfect day to head for the mountains for a run! I always feel slightly guilty when I waste gasoline by driving somewhere to run, when I could just as well run at home, so I usually try to come up with some errands I can run on the way. Today though, I decided that "it might be the last chance to run up there before winter" was a good enough excuse. Seems I wasn't the only one - usually I have those trails to myself, maybe see one other person, today I met five! groups of hikers.
And it was just as lovely as I had hoped! The only grain of salt was that I had to walk down one of my favourite trails - it's quite steep and full of loose rocks and roots, so usually I have to take really short quick steps and jumps and feel like I'm flying Today it was covered in so many layers of leaves that I couldn't really see the ground, plus the wet slippery leaves where a challenge in themselves, there's no whay I would have been able to run down the slope without falling. But the rest of the run was great!
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11/1: 3 miles
11/2: rest
11/3: 4 miles
11/4: 3 miles
11/5: 7 miles
11/6: 5 miles
11/7: 3.6 miles
11/8: 4.4 miles
11/9: rest
11/10: 4 miles
11/11: 5 miles
11/12: 9 miles
11/13: 4 miles
11/14: 4 miles
11/15: 6 miles
11/16: 4 miles
11/17: 3 miles
11/18: rest
11/19: 10 miles
11/20: 4.6 miles
TOTAL: 83.6/70
4.6 easy-ish miles in 45:40 (9:56 pace). Was supposed to be a little slower and a little shorter but I decided to go a new way and got a little turned around. Also was running in the hilly neighborhood, so it was a little harder to control my pace but it still felt like a good easy run. Wind chill was 21 F but there was no wind or rain, so it was much more pleasant than yesterday.1 -
Only downside is it is very exposed to winds. However, it is 4 completely flat miles and when you get to the other end there are 4 pubs_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »@dkabambe That riveside trail looks like a lovely place to run! and some eateries in an old fishing town (and a train station to come back home!) 0 -
1/1: 7.4k
11/3: 6.3k
11/4: 6.1k
11/5: 18k
11/7: 10k
11/8: 3k
11:9: 2k
11/10: 9.5k
11/11: 2k
11/12: 9.2k
11/14: 3.2
11/15: 10.4k
11/17: 8.8k
11/18: 2.1k
11/19: Rest
11/20: 21.2k
Up until now: 119.2k
Left:20.8k
Races:
11/27: Democritus Half Marathon
12/18: Tour of Drama 10K
Wish you all the best!2 -
1/1: 7.4k
11/3: 6.3k
11/4: 6.1k
11/5: 18k
11/7: 10k
11/8: 3k
11:9: 2k
11/10: 9.5k
11/11: 2k
11/12: 9.2k
11/14: 3.2
11/15: 10.4k
11/17: 8.8k
11/18: 2.1k
11/19: Rest
11/20: 21.2
Up until now: 119.2k
Left:20.8k
Races:
11/27: Democritus Half Marathon
12/18: Tour of Drama 10K
I wish you all the best!!1 -
28 degrees F today when I went out for my run, even colder than yesterday. Still no precipitation, and a lot less wind today too. Leaves all over the place. Almost stepped in Ginkgo fruit, which would have been a real smelly mess on my shoes. I've had a previous pair of shoes ruined by Ginkgo fruit.
Not as fast as yesterday, came in at 11:16/mile average for the 5.4 miles. I was hoping to go longer, but I didn't sleep so well last night and was feeling sluggish.
Needless to say, the warm shower felt pretty darn good after running in the cold. 2 -
Why I cannot post my progress? It says that my comment will be post after it is approved? wtf is this?
EDIT: Did it again, I cannot copy paste the previous post of mine and add my new km0 -
1/1: 7.4k
11/3: 6.3k
11/4: 6.1k
11/5: 18k
11/7: 10k
11/8: 3k
11:9: 2k
11/10: 9.5k
11/11: 2k
11/12: 9.2k
11/14: 3.2
11/15: 10.4k
11/17: 8.8k
11/18: 2.1k
11/19: Rest
11/20: 21.2
Up until now: 119.2k
Left:20.8k
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