Do diet pills and fat burners really work?
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I've seen people use them, but it didn't seem to help them much. They'd run around like coked-up rabbits for a week or two and then it was on to the next thing.
Even if I was inclined to take them though, I couldn't/wouldn't. Those things aren't very friendly to people with certain issues. I'd highly recommend checking with a doctor if you have any health concerns, especially if you have a history of kidney or neurological problems.3 -
Some worked very well. They got banned. Anything natural/herbal that works in the future? They'll ban it. Then what will you do? Regain the weight, that's what.
You can speculate as to why these bans happen or not if you wish. It's just been my experience after decades of use; from ephedra to methylsynephrine.
If it works? It gets banned.
The issue of tolerance and health concerns also exists. But then again, being very overweight isn't healthy, either.
Clearly it's all part of a government conspiracy to keep people fat.8 -
rainbowbow wrote: »witcherkar wrote: »So i work for a health and wellness company. We have 3 products that used together help hou lose weight. One: suppresses appetite and gives you over 30 superfoods. Two: a carb and fat blocker. Three: a thermogenic metabolism booster making you burn double the calories. All natural ingredients. And yes it works. We have real people who have lost weight with it and as long as your not eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, it works. Ive used it. Wait, im still using it!!
That sounds very tempting! Can you quickly run through the mechanism by which these magic pills bind fat and carbohydrate to make them indigestible? And no need to go easy on the sciency bit, I'm an analytical chemist
Also, the ones that double calorie consumption - I'm no biologist, but I'm assuming the result would be massive amounts of heat? How does the body cope with that? Does RHR rise significantly? What are the effects on the heart?
If these things really did as claimed, has anyone ever survived taking all 3?
Yours in anticipation,
I've gotten this demo as "proof" before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EncrNDiGuco
Trust me, i've been down this rabbit hole... you're wasting your time with these people.
They also believe a topical serum can penetrate skin and connective tissue to "detoxify" fat cells.
My favorite part is when the oil finally pulls itself back up...2 -
antonio27scala wrote: »I was wondering if using a fat burner would help me lose weight quicker and suppress my appetite? If yes, any good products suggested?
I am pretty sure if they did, whoever invented them would be richer than Bill Gates and Warren Buffett combined. 9 -
I just clicked this to see all the NOs
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PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »witcherkar wrote: »So i work for a health and wellness company. We have 3 products that used together help hou lose weight. One: suppresses appetite and gives you over 30 superfoods. Two: a carb and fat blocker. Three: a thermogenic metabolism booster making you burn double the calories. All natural ingredients. And yes it works. We have real people who have lost weight with it and as long as your not eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, it works. Ive used it. Wait, im still using it!!
That sounds very tempting! Can you quickly run through the mechanism by which these magic pills bind fat and carbohydrate to make them indigestible? And no need to go easy on the sciency bit, I'm an analytical chemist
Also, the ones that double calorie consumption - I'm no biologist, but I'm assuming the result would be massive amounts of heat? How does the body cope with that? Does RHR rise significantly? What are the effects on the heart?
If these things really did as claimed, has anyone ever survived taking all 3?
Yours in anticipation,
I've gotten this demo as "proof" before.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EncrNDiGuco
Trust me, i've been down this rabbit hole... you're wasting your time with these people.
They also believe a topical serum can penetrate skin and connective tissue to "detoxify" fat cells.
My favorite part is when the oil finally pulls itself back up...
It was like a little story of struggle and then finally triumph.
My favorite part is that it only works on veggie oils but not on olive oil. Because somehow it can tell the good oils from the bad ones. ItWorks is like the Santa Clause of dietary fats.10 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »witcherkar wrote: »So i work for a health and wellness company. We have 3 products that used together help hou lose weight. One: suppresses appetite and gives you over 30 superfoods. Two: a carb and fat blocker. Three: a thermogenic metabolism booster making you burn double the calories. All natural ingredients. And yes it works. We have real people who have lost weight with it and as long as your not eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, it works. Ive used it. Wait, im still using it!!
That sounds very tempting! Can you quickly run through the mechanism by which these magic pills bind fat and carbohydrate to make them indigestible? And no need to go easy on the sciency bit, I'm an analytical chemist
Also, the ones that double calorie consumption - I'm no biologist, but I'm assuming the result would be massive amounts of heat? How does the body cope with that? Does RHR rise significantly? What are the effects on the heart?
If these things really did as claimed, has anyone ever survived taking all 3?
Yours in anticipation,
I've gotten this demo as "proof" before.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EncrNDiGuco
Trust me, i've been down this rabbit hole... you're wasting your time with these people.
They also believe a topical serum can penetrate skin and connective tissue to "detoxify" fat cells.
My favorite part is when the oil finally pulls itself back up...
It was like a little story of struggle and then finally triumph.
My favorite part is that it only works on veggie oils but not on olive oil. Because somehow it can tell the good oils from the bad ones. ItWorks is like the Santa Clause of dietary fats.
Just another useless MLM scam (like all the rest of them) preying on desperate, uninformed people. The only people who benefit from them are the ones selling them.
And "superfoods" are a bunch of BS. The only place they exist is in advertising hype. There's no such thing as a "superfood".5 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »witcherkar wrote: »So i work for a health and wellness company. We have 3 products that used together help hou lose weight. One: suppresses appetite and gives you over 30 superfoods. Two: a carb and fat blocker. Three: a thermogenic metabolism booster making you burn double the calories. All natural ingredients. And yes it works. We have real people who have lost weight with it and as long as your not eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, it works. Ive used it. Wait, im still using it!!
That sounds very tempting! Can you quickly run through the mechanism by which these magic pills bind fat and carbohydrate to make them indigestible? And no need to go easy on the sciency bit, I'm an analytical chemist
Also, the ones that double calorie consumption - I'm no biologist, but I'm assuming the result would be massive amounts of heat? How does the body cope with that? Does RHR rise significantly? What are the effects on the heart?
If these things really did as claimed, has anyone ever survived taking all 3?
Yours in anticipation,
I've gotten this demo as "proof" before.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EncrNDiGuco
Trust me, i've been down this rabbit hole... you're wasting your time with these people.
They also believe a topical serum can penetrate skin and connective tissue to "detoxify" fat cells.
My favorite part is when the oil finally pulls itself back up...
It was like a little story of struggle and then finally triumph.
My favorite part is that it only works on veggie oils but not on olive oil. Because somehow it can tell the good oils from the bad ones. ItWorks is like the Santa Clause of dietary fats.
Just another useless MLM scam (like all the rest of them) preying on desperate, uninformed people. The only people who benefit from them are the ones selling them.
And "superfoods" are a bunch of BS. The only place they exist is in advertising hype. There's no such thing as a "superfood".
I was think of the naughty or nice list when I wrote that, but it would work in the sense of Santa being imaginary.3 -
So really in other words....................they don't work. There are NO DIET PILLS that work without changing your calorie intake if you're trying to lose weight.LegacyLion wrote: »Contrary to what people have been saying on here, some them work to a point but you still have to put in the same work you would have to if you weren't taking them. I can't say all of them work but the one I used (Shred Jym) helped me get that extra push. However, just don't use them longer than a month or two.
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Speaking of Superfoods, here is a good link listing out all the Superfoods we should be eating.
http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/superfoods/
Have a read through it and let me know if you don't like the list.10 -
Drinking water suppresses appetite. And there are no such things as "superfoods".witcherkar wrote: »So i work for a health and wellness company. We have 3 products that used together help hou lose weight. One: suppresses appetite and gives you over 30 superfoods.
No such thing as a carb blocker and taking a fat blocker doesn't only block unwanted fat, but ESSENTIAL FAT as well. Ouch.Two: a carb and fat blocker.
Total BS propoganda. If someone's BMR is 1500 a day, you're telling me that this "natural product" boosts that BMR to 3000? Lol, you're drinking that company koolaid.Three: a thermogenic metabolism booster making you burn double the calories. All natural ingredients. And yes it works. We have real people who have lost weight with it and as long as your not eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, it works. Ive used it. Wait, im still using it!!
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Here is a good link listing out all the Superfoods we should be eating.
http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/superfoods/
Have a read through it and let me know if you don't like the list.
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Drinking water suppresses appetite. And there are no such things as "superfoods".witcherkar wrote: »So i work for a health and wellness company. We have 3 products that used together help hou lose weight. One: suppresses appetite and gives you over 30 superfoods.
No such thing as a carb blocker and taking a fat blocker doesn't only block unwanted fat, but ESSENTIAL FAT as well. Ouch.Two: a carb and fat blocker.
Total BS propoganda. If someone's BMR is 1500 a day, you're telling me that this "natural product" boosts that BMR to 3000? Lol, you're drinking that company koolaid.Three: a thermogenic metabolism booster making you burn double the calories. All natural ingredients. And yes it works. We have real people who have lost weight with it and as long as your not eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, it works. Ive used it. Wait, im still using it!!
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I'll take some of that Koolaid, please!2 -
Hate to tell you dear, but you've bought into a lot of pseudoscience. While some of the ingredients have positive effects, the effects are insignificant, especially at the dosages being used.witcherkar wrote: »witcherkar wrote: »So i work for a health and wellness company. We have 3 products that used together help hou lose weight. One: suppresses appetite and gives you over 30 superfoods. Two: a carb and fat blocker. Three: a thermogenic metabolism booster making you burn double the calories. All natural ingredients. And yes it works. We have real people who have lost weight with it and as long as your not eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, it works. Ive used it. Wait, im still using it!!
That sounds very tempting! Can you quickly run through the mechanism by which these magic pills bind fat and carbohydrate to make them indigestible? And no need to go easy on the sciency bit, I'm an analytical chemist
Also, the ones that double calorie consumption - I'm no biologist, but I'm assuming the result would be massive amounts of heat? How does the body cope with that? Does RHR rise significantly? What are the effects on the heart?
If these things really did as claimed, has anyone ever survived taking all 3?
Yours in anticipation,
I am not a scientist or a doctor. Im a 21 year old girl who has seen the results on friends, family, and even strangers. Heres is the best i can get for you. And yes everyone has survived all three since i take all 3 too.
I shall start with the first one. The ItWorks Fat Fighters. Two tablets contain the following ingredients:
Chromium dinicotinate glycinate 150 mcg: This reduces blood sugar levels.
NeOpuntia (cactus leaf) 500 mg: This is actually the prickly pear cactus which somehow binds fat so we dont absorb it.
Proprietary blend of the following 510 mg
1. Garcinia cambogia fruit extract: This prevents carbs from turning into fat.
2. Green tea leaf extract: This has caffeine which is a stimulant.
3. Phaseolamin: This is the white Kidney Bean Extract. This inhibits a carb digesting enzyme. So it blocks the carbs from being digested. It also reduces appetite by lower ghrelin hormones (the ones that tell you to eat).Also lowers blood sugar and insulin levels.
5. Bitter melon fruit: This inhibits primary human adipocyte differentiation by modulating adipogenic genes, which increases fat burning.
6. Banaba leaf extract: This lowers blood sugar and blocks carbs
7. Gymnema sylvestre leaf extract: This also lowers blood sugar
8. Wheat amalyase inhibitor: amalyase is an enzyme that helps us absorb carbs. So an inhibitor would make us not.
9. Vanadium: Also reduces blood sugar
The 2nd one is the thermofit.
Ingredients:
1. B12- Boost Energy
2. Chromium- Already talked about
3. Capsaicin- This comes from hot peppers. It reduces appetite and speeds up fat burning.
4. Capsimax- This is a type of Capsaicin which causes sensations of heat and burning because it promotes the release of substance P.
5. Raspberry Keytones- doubled with Capsimax makes it stronger.
6. Acai Fruit Extract- superfood that lowers blood sugar
7. Green tea extract- already talked about
8. Bitter melon- already talked about
9. Dandelion root- direuretic
10. Gymnema Leaf Extract- already talked about
11. Niacin- increases body temp
I'd like Aaron to go over with you what all those ingredients ACTUALLY do, if he sees this.
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This is the issue you should be addressing and instead of wasting money on product that really doesn't work (in peer reviewed clinical studies not anecdotes), use that money with a therapist or counselor to identify why the disorder is going on.witcherkar wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »@witcherkar if these pills do what you claim why are you on this website? From your avatar it would seem that you have a fair bit of progress to make before you can start selling miracle weight loss products.
Because it takes time just like everything else. Plus i lose motivation and stop. Plus i have binge eating disorder. Im not saying they are miracle weightloss pills. Im saying that they really do help. I wish yall would stop attacking me.
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+1 from me!Tacklewasher wrote: »Speaking of Superfoods, here is a good link listing out all the Superfoods we should be eating.
http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/superfoods/
Have a read through it and let me know if you don't like the list.
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IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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witcherkar wrote: »witcherkar wrote: »So i work for a health and wellness company. We have 3 products that used together help hou lose weight. One: suppresses appetite and gives you over 30 superfoods. Two: a carb and fat blocker. Three: a thermogenic metabolism booster making you burn double the calories. All natural ingredients. And yes it works. We have real people who have lost weight with it and as long as your not eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, it works. Ive used it. Wait, im still using it!!
That sounds very tempting! Can you quickly run through the mechanism by which these magic pills bind fat and carbohydrate to make them indigestible? And no need to go easy on the sciency bit, I'm an analytical chemist
Also, the ones that double calorie consumption - I'm no biologist, but I'm assuming the result would be massive amounts of heat? How does the body cope with that? Does RHR rise significantly? What are the effects on the heart?
If these things really did as claimed, has anyone ever survived taking all 3?
Yours in anticipation,
I am not a scientist or a doctor. Im a 21 year old girl who has seen the results on friends, family, and even strangers. Heres is the best i can get for you. And yes everyone has survived all three since i take all 3 too.
I shall start with the first one. The ItWorks Fat Fighters. Two tablets contain the following ingredients:
Chromium dinicotinate glycinate 150 mcg: This reduces blood sugar levels.
NeOpuntia (cactus leaf) 500 mg: This is actually the prickly pear cactus which somehow binds fat so we dont absorb it.
Proprietary blend of the following 510 mg
1. Garcinia cambogia fruit extract: This prevents carbs from turning into fat.
2. Green tea leaf extract: This has caffeine which is a stimulant.
3. Phaseolamin: This is the white Kidney Bean Extract. This inhibits a carb digesting enzyme. So it blocks the carbs from being digested. It also reduces appetite by lower ghrelin hormones (the ones that tell you to eat).Also lowers blood sugar and insulin levels.
5. Bitter melon fruit: This inhibits primary human adipocyte differentiation by modulating adipogenic genes, which increases fat burning.
6. Banaba leaf extract: This lowers blood sugar and blocks carbs
7. Gymnema sylvestre leaf extract: This also lowers blood sugar
8. Wheat amalyase inhibitor: amalyase is an enzyme that helps us absorb carbs. So an inhibitor would make us not.
9. Vanadium: Also reduces blood sugar
The 2nd one is the thermofit.
Ingredients:
1. B12- Boost Energy
2. Chromium- Already talked about
3. Capsaicin- This comes from hot peppers. It reduces appetite and speeds up fat burning.
4. Capsimax- This is a type of Capsaicin which causes sensations of heat and burning because it promotes the release of substance P.
5. Raspberry Keytones- doubled with Capsimax makes it stronger.
6. Acai Fruit Extract- superfood that lowers blood sugar
7. Green tea extract- already talked about
8. Bitter melon- already talked about
9. Dandelion root- direuretic
10. Gymnema Leaf Extract- already talked about
11. Niacin- increases body temp
Cool, thanks for that. As I say, I'm no biologist, or even a biological chemist, so I have no idea what the effect of a lot of these extracts are.
There are certainly some compounds that may help to do as claimed, but the effects (to my limited knowledge) are going to be minimal and unlikely to be statistically significant.
Caffeine, obviously, is the one that leaps out as being helpful but the amount of caffeine in a percentage of 500mg of extract will obviously depend a lot on the extraction technique and the ratio to other compounds present.
CDG is another I'm familiar with, but I'm not aware of any research that conclusively demonstrates its effectiveness?
They appear to be extracts containing some ingredients that may help, some that are controversial, and others based on popular belief.
On a different note, I'm really glad they work for you. Personally, I wouldn't spend my money on them, but if you believe in them, and they help you stay in a calorific deficit as a result of this, then they're clearly worth it to you.
Does the company produce any peer reviewed scientific studies into the effectiveness of these tablets?
CM_73 you are officially my favorite person on these forums now.
I have heard that the fat pills/detox pills/cleanse pills are very good at shrinking the size of your wallet, by the way.1 -
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Green tea fat burner gel caps from Walmart have great reviews. I just started them so I'll let you know. It's actually a healthy pill too.0
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TaraTaraTara76 wrote: »Green tea fat burner gel caps from Walmart have great reviews. I just started them so I'll let you know. It's actually a healthy pill too.
I'm sure they'll work great, as long as you maintain a consistent caloric deficit. In fact, they'll work just as well as the consistent caloric deficit would work without the green tea fat burner gel caps.5 -
TaraTaraTara76 wrote: »Green tea fat burner gel caps from Walmart have great reviews. I just started them so I'll let you know. It's actually a healthy pill too.
Did you know that, paradoxically, green tea extract can potentially reduce thyroid function, which may slow weight loss?8 -
Reviews from whom? Users give anecdotes. Have you read any reviews from peer reviewed clinical studies on it?TaraTaraTara76 wrote: »Green tea fat burner gel caps from Walmart have great reviews. I just started them so I'll let you know. It's actually a healthy pill too.
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There are prescription ones that absolutely do work but like any "fix" that isn't a sustainable lifestyle change they only work short term.2
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stevencloser wrote: »witcherkar wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »@witcherkar if these pills do what you claim why are you on this website? From your avatar it would seem that you have a fair bit of progress to make before you can start selling miracle weight loss products.
Because it takes time just like everything else. Plus i lose motivation and stop. Plus i have binge eating disorder. Im not saying they are miracle weightloss pills. Im saying that they really do help. I wish yall would stop attacking me.
You're not saying they're miracle weight loss pills, except they apparently double your energy expenditure and made you lose 1,75 pounds per day.
Sure.
Let's put that in numbers, shall we? That's a deficit of 6125 calories every day if you thought that was fat. That would not require doubling your calories but almost quadrupling, if you ate in maintenance before and didn't change your eating.
But...silly, they don't believe in CICO......5 -
Reviews from whom? Users give anecdotes. Have you read any reviews from peer reviewed clinical studies on it?TaraTaraTara76 wrote: »Green tea fat burner gel caps from Walmart have great reviews. I just started them so I'll let you know. It's actually a healthy pill too.
Add to that the fact that most supplement "reviews" on the internet are from shill accounts created by people who sell the stuff. It's a multi-billion dollar industry based mostly upon hype, lies and sometimes outright fraud.6 -
Nope:Chromium dinicotinate glycinate 150 mcg: This reduces blood sugar levels.
"A more recent, 6-month study published in 2005 showed improved insulin sensitivity and glucose tolerance in people with Type 2 diabetes taking a sulfonylurea drug and 1,000 mcg of chromium (in the form of chromium picolinate) compared to a placebo group that didn’t take chromium. Those taking chromium also gained less weight than the placebo group. However, this study involved only 37 subjects. And another 6-month study, also published in 2005, looked at chromium doses of either 500 or 1,000 mcg in 46 obese subjects with poorly controlled Type 2 diabetes and found no effect on HbA1c levels (a measure of blood glucose control over time), weight, or lipid levels compared to placebo."
http://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/blog/chromium-confusion/
Somehow? So sciency. According to this study, it's only 15% of fat:NeOpuntia (cactus leaf) 500 mg: This is actually the prickly pear cactus which somehow binds fat so we dont absorb it.
Absolutely no scientific proof "https://examine.com/supplements/garcinia-cambogia/1. Garcinia cambogia fruit extract: This prevents carbs from turning into fat.
Endorsed by Do Oz....enough said.
Uh huh. So is a cup of coffee. A stimulant...that's pretty much it. Endorsed by Do Oz2. Green tea leaf extract: This has caffeine which is a stimulant.
Another Dr Oz endorsed product.3. Phaseolamin: This is the white Kidney Bean Extract. This inhibits a carb digesting enzyme. So it blocks the carbs from being digested. It also reduces appetite by lower ghrelin hormones (the ones that tell you to eat).Also lowers blood sugar and insulin levels.
Apparently very subpar carb blocker
This extract is released in the duodenum.
As for the ghrelin reducing...I haven't found a single reputable source that mentions or confirms this.
Study on mice:5. Bitter melon fruit: This inhibits primary human adipocyte differentiation by modulating adipogenic genes, which increases fat burning.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235238591630007X
It hasn't even been close to being researched enough in labs to make this conclusion....6. Banaba leaf extract: This lowers blood sugar and blocks carbs
I can't be bothered with the rest. Raspbery ketones? This company loves Dr Oz, huh? The fact that actual scientists debunk these products will never be enough.
Funny, with all the fat blockers, how are nutrients being absorbed? Why so many blood sugar decreases? That doesn't sound good... And carb blockers? If this all worked, how will essential nutrients be absorbed?
Only the one at the top of the pyramid gets all the goods....9 -
witcherkar wrote: »witcherkar wrote: »So i work for a health and wellness company. We have 3 products that used together help hou lose weight. One: suppresses appetite and gives you over 30 superfoods. Two: a carb and fat blocker. Three: a thermogenic metabolism booster making you burn double the calories. All natural ingredients. And yes it works. We have real people who have lost weight with it and as long as your not eating mcdonalds 3 times a day, it works. Ive used it. Wait, im still using it!!
That sounds very tempting! Can you quickly run through the mechanism by which these magic pills bind fat and carbohydrate to make them indigestible? And no need to go easy on the sciency bit, I'm an analytical chemist
Also, the ones that double calorie consumption - I'm no biologist, but I'm assuming the result would be massive amounts of heat? How does the body cope with that? Does RHR rise significantly? What are the effects on the heart?
If these things really did as claimed, has anyone ever survived taking all 3?
Yours in anticipation,
I am not a scientist or a doctor. Im a 21 year old girl who has seen the results on friends, family, and even strangers. Heres is the best i can get for you. And yes everyone has survived all three since i take all 3 too.
I shall start with the first one. The ItWorks Fat Fighters. Two tablets contain the following ingredients:
Chromium dinicotinate glycinate 150 mcg: This reduces blood sugar levels.
NeOpuntia (cactus leaf) 500 mg: This is actually the prickly pear cactus which somehow binds fat so we dont absorb it.
Proprietary blend of the following 510 mg
1. Garcinia cambogia fruit extract: This prevents carbs from turning into fat.
2. Green tea leaf extract: This has caffeine which is a stimulant.
3. Phaseolamin: This is the white Kidney Bean Extract. This inhibits a carb digesting enzyme. So it blocks the carbs from being digested. It also reduces appetite by lower ghrelin hormones (the ones that tell you to eat).Also lowers blood sugar and insulin levels.
5. Bitter melon fruit: This inhibits primary human adipocyte differentiation by modulating adipogenic genes, which increases fat burning.
6. Banaba leaf extract: This lowers blood sugar and blocks carbs
7. Gymnema sylvestre leaf extract: This also lowers blood sugar
8. Wheat amalyase inhibitor: amalyase is an enzyme that helps us absorb carbs. So an inhibitor would make us not.
9. Vanadium: Also reduces blood sugar
The 2nd one is the thermofit.
Ingredients:
1. B12- Boost Energy
2. Chromium- Already talked about
3. Capsaicin- This comes from hot peppers. It reduces appetite and speeds up fat burning.
4. Capsimax- This is a type of Capsaicin which causes sensations of heat and burning because it promotes the release of substance P.
5. Raspberry Keytones- doubled with Capsimax makes it stronger.
6. Acai Fruit Extract- superfood that lowers blood sugar
7. Green tea extract- already talked about
8. Bitter melon- already talked about
9. Dandelion root- direuretic
10. Gymnema Leaf Extract- already talked about
11. Niacin- increases body temp
Cool, thanks for that. As I say, I'm no biologist, or even a biological chemist, so I have no idea what the effect of a lot of these extracts are.
There are certainly some compounds that may help to do as claimed, but the effects (to my limited knowledge) are going to be minimal and unlikely to be statistically significant.
Caffeine, obviously, is the one that leaps out as being helpful but the amount of caffeine in a percentage of 500mg of extract will obviously depend a lot on the extraction technique and the ratio to other compounds present.
CDG is another I'm familiar with, but I'm not aware of any research that conclusively demonstrates its effectiveness?
They appear to be extracts containing some ingredients that may help, some that are controversial, and others based on popular belief.
On a different note, I'm really glad they work for you. Personally, I wouldn't spend my money on them, but if you believe in them, and they help you stay in a calorific deficit as a result of this, then they're clearly worth it to you.
Does the company produce any peer reviewed scientific studies into the effectiveness of these tablets?
CM_73 you are officially my favorite person on these forums now.
I have heard that the fat pills/detox pills/cleanse pills are very good at shrinking the size of your wallet, by the way.
Aw, shucks, that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me!
I do feel a bit bad for bashing the poster over the claims, it's not her fault, but I do get really irritated by the companies touting these products. To my mind they're no better than the phone & Microsoft scammers, just preying on peoples vulnerabilities and blatantly making false, or deceptive, claims.
I guess there is a place for these things, if someone believes that it gives them the drive to get to the gym, or to keep on logging calories when they're otherwise flagging then I'm in no place to knock that.
But, what happens long term? what happens if the company goes bust or you can no longer get the pills? At some point they're going to have to see the light to maintain a healthy weight in my opinion.
The problem, for me, is the claims associated with these ones. The oil in water demo is just insulting and as for doubling calorie burns...
If they'd stated that they may help weight loss as part of a calorie controlled diet, or similar, then fine, each to their own but that's just ridiculous.6 -
htimpaired wrote: »Some worked very well. They got banned. Anything natural/herbal that works in the future? They'll ban it. Then what will you do? Regain the weight, that's what.
You can speculate as to why these bans happen or not if you wish. It's just been my experience after decades of use; from ephedra to methylsynephrine.
If it works? It gets banned.
The issue of tolerance and health concerns also exists. But then again, being very overweight isn't healthy, either.
Clearly it's all part of a government conspiracy to keep people fat.
More like pharma lobbyists not wanting competition from anything they can't patent. You can believe that or not.
I do.
Either way: It works? It gets banned.0 -
htimpaired wrote: »Some worked very well. They got banned. Anything natural/herbal that works in the future? They'll ban it. Then what will you do? Regain the weight, that's what.
You can speculate as to why these bans happen or not if you wish. It's just been my experience after decades of use; from ephedra to methylsynephrine.
If it works? It gets banned.
The issue of tolerance and health concerns also exists. But then again, being very overweight isn't healthy, either.
Clearly it's all part of a government conspiracy to keep people fat.
More like pharma lobbyists not wanting competition from anything they can't patent. You can believe that or not.
I do.
Either way: It works? It gets banned.
OR
It gets banned, because it's really not good for you.8 -
JustMissTracy wrote: »htimpaired wrote: »Some worked very well. They got banned. Anything natural/herbal that works in the future? They'll ban it. Then what will you do? Regain the weight, that's what.
You can speculate as to why these bans happen or not if you wish. It's just been my experience after decades of use; from ephedra to methylsynephrine.
If it works? It gets banned.
The issue of tolerance and health concerns also exists. But then again, being very overweight isn't healthy, either.
Clearly it's all part of a government conspiracy to keep people fat.
More like pharma lobbyists not wanting competition from anything they can't patent. You can believe that or not.
I do.
Either way: It works? It gets banned.
OR
It gets banned, because it's really not good for you.
I think you might be banging your head here.4
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