June 2017 Running Challenge
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June Running Totals (miles)
6/1 – 8.25 warm up, speed work, cool down
6/2 – rest day
6/3 – 12.18 solo + group run
6/4 – 7.21 easy with fast finish
6/5 – 7.07 easy
6/6 – 11.05 warm up, speed work, cool down
6/7 – 7.38 group run
6/8 – 5.33 warm up, easy speed work, cool down
6/9 – 3.01 warm up + McMullen Mile
6/10 – 15.01 group run 6 + solo run 9
June total to date – 76.49
Nominal Challenge Goal – 230 miles
Real Goals: Stay healthy. Train toward Rochester Marathon. Run McMullen Mile in under 5:50 on June 9. [Done!] Run Medved 5K to Cure ALS in under 20:00 on June 18.
Today's notes – Got to bed past midnight after yesterday's evening race, awards ceremony, and taking a long time to wind down. When the alarm went off at 4:30, I made the executive decision I wasn't going to get up that early to run today. Woke up again at 6. Could have rolled over and grabbed more sleep, but I felt about as rested as I normally would when the alarm goes off at 4:30 on Saturday, so I got up, hustled through breakfast, and made it to the 7:30 group run at the third running store in town. They were offering routes of 6 and 9 miles.
I hadn't been to the group run with this store before, but it's between sessions for the program I pace for so I was at loose ends. Saw a bunch of unfamiliar faces, and a bunch of people I had met at various races and other social runs. Set off with the pace group that held up the 8:00 sign. It quickly became clear that they were going to be running faster than 8:00; when they were running a 7:20 pace, I let the group run away from me. I can run that, but I didn't want to go that fast for 15 miles.
Got to run on some roads I hadn't seen before, and along trails marked with flags. The early instances of this, there were people stationed to be sure we went the right way. After perhaps 4 miles, another laggard and I caught up with a leader who had dropped back to make sure we didn't get lost. Then we caught up with the group. They really weren't that much faster than me; they got sucked into a too-fast race because Superman was running with them. I recognized Superman, and knew better than to try to run with him. He aged up to 55 when I was 59, and ran the Flower City half 4 minutes faster than me to take the age group . . . 6 days after he ran a 3 hour Boston. I'm not it his class.
The group missed some flags in the later part of the run, then found the route and got back to the store about 0.2 miles short. No big whoop, I need to add distance anyway. But everyone else went to the store for a break at 6, and I wanted to keep running. Okay, the next 3 are clear. Until I get to turn on an unfamiliar street and follow flags. I missed the street, because I quit looking for it before I got there. I knew where I was, and had already decided to add distance another way. So instead of turning and going back to the store to finish at 9, I kept running on the Genesee Riverway Trail. It occurred to me that I'd already stopped for traffic lights and to wait for others to decide where to turn in the first 6 miles, so there's no harm in more brief stops for pictures. The Genesee River was kind of pretty today:
Ran along the path, which is part of the Johnny's Runnin' of the Green race route, and came to a branch where the race follows the path, but there's also a bridge over the river. I knew where that bridge went, but I'd never run it. What the heck. Let's give you pictures looking downstream and upstream from the pedestrian bridge:
Ran along the Riverway trail on the west side of the river, and saw a nice view of the Rochester skyline:
But the real reason I was running on the west side of the river was because it was sunny, that was beginning to feel a bit warm, and there was quite a bit of trail that looked about like this:
Crossed back to the east side at the Court Street bridge. The flow over the RG&E dam wasn't as low as full summer, but at least it isn't the flood stage it was in March:
Construction prevented me from running where I planned, so I detoured through a familiar part of downtown, took the Clinton Avenue pedestrian overpass to get across I-490, and back to the river. Looked at the watch. I'll get back to the store around 13 miles. I need 15. I can run south on Mt. Hope Avenue then follow the Flower City Half route through Mt. Hope Cemetery. It's a confusing route through the cemetery, but I've run the race 3 times and done preview runs several times. I think I can find it. Took a picture of the cobblestone hill, but it doesn't look as steep as it is, and the bumpy surface doesn't show well in the picture:
For those who had wondered about the propriety of running in cemeteries, Flower City was designed to showcase some of the heritage of Rochester, NY. It runs past the grave of Susan B. Anthony:
Here's the poorly marked turn that I missed on the preview run before Boston:
Here's a shot from very near the high elevation point of Flower City. We don't have to run up the steps:
The Flower City tic sheet uses the Strong mausoleum as a landmark for one of the turns. I don't know which Strongs are entombed there, but the Strong family is a big name in Rochester philanthropy, from Strong Memorial Hospital to the Strong Museum of Play that is the beneficiary of the annual Reindeer Run 5K.
After the turn at the Strong mausoleum, the course is easier to find. There is only one confusing turn, marked by the Getman mausoleum. I can't read the Getman name in the picture, but I could read it live from where I took the picture:
Even adding the Flower City route through the cemetery, I ended up doing OCD laps of the parking lot to get to my 15 miles. My legs had felt heavy off and on since mile 9, probably because I didn't have my customary rest day on Friday. But the bottom line, with all the running too fast and stopping and waiting and running by feel the last 9 miles was a reasonable average pace with reasonable HR statistics.
2017 races:
January 1, 2017 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY) Finished in 50:45
January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) Finished in 1:32:40
January 14, 2017 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds Park 5 mile) (Spencerport, NY) Finished in 33:42
January 28, 2017 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY) short course, finished 4.88 miles in 32:50
February 4, 2017 USATF Cross Country National Championship Masters 8K (Bend, OR) Finished in 35:39, team won the 60+ Men's cross country championship
February 11, 2017 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) sat out due to training schedule
February 25, 2017 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) short course, finished 4.34 miles in 27:51
March 11, 2017 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 33:25
March 18, 2017 USATF Masters 8K Championship (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 30:59, PR for 8K
April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:49:42
April 30, 2017 USATF Masters 10K Championship (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 39:54, PR for 10K
May 21, 2017 Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) finished in 40:04
May 27, 2017 Canandaigua Classic Half Marathon (Canandaigua, NY) finished in 1:33:06
June 9, 2017 Charlie McMullen Mile (Fairport, NY) finished in 5:44.90, PR for mile
June 18, 2017 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY)
July 28, 2017 Karknocker 5K (East Rochester, NY)
September 3, 2017 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY)
September 17, 2017 MVP Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
November 23, 2017 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
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June 1 – 6.0 miles
June 2 – 6.0 miles w/6 x 400m intervals
June 3 – 3.0 miles Easy Run HC22 Resistance 1
June 4 – 0.0 miles Rest Day HC22 Cardio 2
June 5 – 5.0 miles Easy run w/strides (8) HC22 Resistance 1
June 6 – 0.0 miles XT Day Water Zumba and 30 min of swimming laps
June 7 – 10.0 miles Long Run
June 8 – 0.0 miles XT Day HC 22 Cardio 2 and Resistance 2
June 9 – 6.0 miles w/8 x 400m intervals
June 10 – 3.25 miles Easy Run & HC22 Resistance 2
Total: 39.25 miles/100 miles
Treadmill run today. I haven’t run on a treadmill in ages! In fact, I never could RUN on a treadmill. It always freaked me out to go faster than a walk. Plus, even though I’m a pretty consistently paced runner, I still fluctuate my pace when I’m on the road. You can’t do that on a treadmill. I was pleasantly surprised that today’s run wasn’t horrible, and I managed to keep a steady pace the whole time. There’s hope for me yet!
Pros and Cons of running on a treadmill:
Cons: 1. Can get a bit boring. It’s definitely a mind game to keep going.
2. I can’t spontaneously start dancing when a great song comes on. Yes, I’m a freak show on the road. Get over it.
3. The room I have the treadmill in has a very low ceiling. I’m 5’6” tall and can touch the ceiling without even straightening my arms. So, I currently cannot raise the incline at all.
4. I’m pretty sure training on a treadmill does not adequately prepare you for a road race.
Pros: 1. Climate control! Which is, of course, the whole reason hubby got me the treadmill in the first place.
2. I can wear what I want. If this crazy old lady wants to run in just a sports bra and booty shorts, I can, and I don’t have to care who sees all my scars and marks!
3. No headphones. I can just let my music play out loud.
4. Convenient bathroom locations.
Overall, I was grateful for the break from the heat, but I probably won’t use the treadmill for much more than my easy run days. I can’t imagine doing my long run on it. Two hours staring out the window at the truck parked in the driveway. Meh. I’ll pass. I might try watching something on my computer next time. We’ll see.
I hope everyone is having an amazing weekend and enjoying your races!
Races:
June 23 – St. Pete Beach Series, Race #1, 5K
July 21 - St. Pete Beach Series, Race #2, 5K
August 5 – Great Brain Wash 5K Obstacle Run, St. Pete, FL
August 18 - St. Pete Beach Series, Race #3, 5K
September 16 – Samoa Challenge (Thin Mint Sprint 5K and a Tagalong Trot 1 mile), Safety Harbor, FL
November 18 – Insane Inflatable 5K Obstacle Run, Tampa, FL
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1/6 - 3.6
2/6 - 4.9
3/6-5.6
4/6 -REST
5/6-3.9
6/6-4.7
7/6-3.1
8/6-4.3
9/0 -REST
10/6-3.8 miles
Total - 33.9/907 -
6/1 5miles 46:33min
6/2 3miles 27:09min
6/3 7miles 65:53min
6/4 rest
6/5 3miles 27:52min
6/6 4miles 36:43min
6/7 3miles 27:55min
6/8 13.1miles!!! 2:06:49min
6/9 rest
6/10 3.55miles 35:30min
Ran with the running group today at the YMCA. Ran with another person and we took it pretty slow which I was fine with. It was hot and my hip was quite sore.
I'm happy that I'm not sore or stiff from running the half marathon- I guess the training plan really prepared me!
My referral finally went through and my first PT appointment is Tuesday! I'm really looking forward to fixing my hip pain and running pain free.
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@skippygirlsmom - love the runners wedding!
@MobyCarp - love all the pictures! Such a beautiful area to run!
@Elise4270 - Nice shirt and shorts! How do you like the shorts? Where did you order the shirt - did we have another group order that I missed by being so behind here?
I am reposting the Melanoma Run/Walk information here for any of the new folks...
https://walk.aimatmelanoma.org/Hilo2017/mfpmonthlyrunningchallenge
We are running (or walking) in honor of @HonuNui's son who lost his life in April to melanoma. Come join us in October either virtually or in person and be sure to wear your sunscreen!5 -
Random question for the group. My custom jersey/singlet, which I thought would be arriving late next week, is scheduled to arrive Monday. I REALLY want to be able to wear it at the marathon.
So here is my question, do you think my 5 miler on Wednesday will be long enough to figure out if I like how it wears? I have a different shirt that's G2G, but having a custom one, with my name on the back would be super sweet for marathon day....but not at the expense of performance.0 -
@MNLittleFinn - Yes, 5 miles is long enough that any major problems with a shirt should be apparent. Most likely, this will be a non-issue; but it's good to wear the new shirt for that 5 mile run just to be sure.2
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1---5.06
3---6.31
4---6.29
6---3.69 walk
7---4.37
9---3.76
10---6.34
35.73/70
Upcoming races
June 17th Turtle run 5K
AIM for the Cure- 5K, virual run
July 8- XTERRA Jurassic Trail Run, 5K. Glen Rose,TX
Dec 2- POOP trail run, Hoping for a half! Norman OK.
Pre-op PR's
1 mile 8:27 5k 24:42. 10k 1:00.52. HM 2:17.28
Post-op Training PR's
1 mile 10:50 5k 37.46 10k 1:20.256 -
@MNLittleFinn - Yes, 5 miles is long enough that any major problems with a shirt should be apparent. Most likely, this will be a non-issue; but it's good to wear the new shirt for that 5 mile run just to be sure.
Thanks. My normal thinking told me that, but being tapering..... I'm questioning everything I think.....lol....HM taper wasn't nearly so bad.0 -
Hello! I hope all your weekends are going great and according to plans.
@MobyCarp Great pics, love 'em! What software is that in the last one?
It is looking like I will (with some extra effort on my part) earn brown belt 3 next Saturday. The work just keeps getting more difficult, but I'm really enjoying it. Feels like a big step in my karate training.
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Hit up the trails for 10 miles with a friend this morning which was nice, but I was still a bit sluggish.
6/1 - 2 miles
6/3 - 3.5 miles
6/4 - 13 miles (1:36 run @ IM Raleigh 70.3)
6/6 - 3 miles
6/7 - 7 miles
6/8 - 3.5 miles (post ride)
6/10 - 10 miles
Total: 41 miles
Goal: 180 miles
Remaining: 139 miles
2017 Race Schedule:
1/29 - Chilly Willy Duathlon (1:07:48 - 20:05 1st 5K/21:16 2nd 5K - 1st AG, 3rd Amateur)
2/5 - Best Damn Race 1:50 pacer
5/5 - Pittsburgh Marathon (withdrew at mile 16 - 1:32 split @ 13.1)
6/4 - Ironman 70.3 Raleigh - 4:43/1:36 run - Qualified for Ironman 70.3 World Championships
8/25 - Ironman Coeur D'Alene
9/10 - Ironman 70.3 World Championships
@MNLittleFinn - only used my gear bag twice for a marathon & more often for triathlons - I think I had some warm clothes (shed before the start), a cell phone (to check my & friend's times/sync with friends), and a few bucks/bus card for getting a snack & going home after. Just make sure the sticker with your number is on securely.2 -
Embrace the Suck MFP Monthly Running Challenge T-shirts!
(Hope these work!)
Women's tank top $21.95:
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They're both made of moisture-wicking fabric. Not sure if you can edit the colours.
I get the minimum royalty per T-shirt I could set (5%) in the store, which works out at less than 90c per shirt.
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Here it is
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Date Miles today - Miles for June
6/1 10.5 miles - 10.5
6/2 7.5 miles - 18
6/3 14 miles - 32
6/4 REST DAY
6/5 8 miles - 40
6/6 10 miles - 50
6/7 5.4 miles - 55.4
6/8 10 miles - 65.4
6/9 4.15 miles - 69.55
6/10 14 miles - 83.55
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (unofficial) - 1/21 << 1:46:48 2 OA
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (rescheduled) - 2/18 << 1:41:04 1 in AG & 24 OA
Kentucky Derby Festival Marathon - 4/29 << 4:09:59
Upcoming races:
None so far
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@elise4270 yes there are color options and for an additional fee you can personalise wit a phrase on the back. I like "WWMCD" what would MobyCarp do.8
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June Goal: Goal? We don't need no stinkin goal.....
6/1 nothin
6/2 4.00
6/3 4.00
6/4 4.00
6/5 rest
6/6 3.87
6/7 4.13
6/8 3.50
6/9 rest
6/10 6.12
Total 29.62
Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:
upcoming races:
Volcano Rainforest Runs 10k 8/19
BlockThe Sun Run 5k Oct 14 (https://walk.aimatmelanoma.org/Hilo2017) (physical and virtual options available)
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@Elise4270 - thanks for the repost. I was going to message @orphia to see if she could send the info to me!2
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6/1- REST
6/2- 5.2 Miles
6/3- 19
6/4- 4.3
6/5- 4.2
6/6- 3.2
6/7- 8.0
6/8- REST
6/9- 3.2
Total: 47.1
Goal for June. Finish Marathon training well, taper well and run Grandma's well
Nominal mileage goal: 100
Today's notes: Rest day today so, of course, I couldn't sleep this morning. I woke up with the horrible dreading feeling that I didn't really want to run my 9 mile FFLR.... Then I remembered today was Sunday, and I ran that run yesterday with no rel issues.... LOL.... That counts as a taper issue, right?
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2017 Races Scheduled
6/16- William A Irvin 5k
6/17- Grandma's Marathon (Full!)
8/19- Rampage at the Ridge 5k OCR
9/23- Ely Marathon (full)
10/21 Wild Duluth 50k
11/23- TBD 5k Turkey Trot
Possible? 2017 Races
7/15- Eugene Curnow Trail Marathon
@Ohhim Thanks for the input on gear bags. My basic thought was dry clothes (shorts/shirt) sandals, and phone. I don't normally carry cash, but I was thinking, since I've done it on Long Runs, carry a CC and my DL in the back pocket on my shorts, so I have something with me at the finish, but I don't have to worry about losing it.1 -
Just found this thread...
Lets see June...
6/01 - 7.02 miles @ 9:53
6/03 - 10k Race - 50:56 - 8:14
6/03 - 5k Race - 27:06 - 8: 35 (back to back with 10k, 7 mins rest between)
6/05 - 6.51 miles @ 10:31
6/06 - 6.02 miles @ 9:39
6/07 - 6.02 miles @ 9:30
6/08 - 7.01 miles @ 9:37
6/10 - 15 miles @ 10:46
Summer Goal: Get my marathon pace below 9 minutes.
Officail Marathon PR: 4:11:28
Plan: I have no plan, no clue what I am doing. I just strap on my shoes, 3 or 4 water bottles, headphones and the focus on left, right, left, right, for as long as it takes. Figure my "short runs" of 6 -8 mils should be where I think about speed and my longish runs are just to keep some endurance.
Next Marathon: Pittsburgh May 2018.9 -
@VydorScope If Philly 2018 is your next marathon, that's tons of time. You're looking at dropping 37sec/mile in that time from your marathon time. I'd say that's doable, but I'll be running my first full in 6 days, so I'm not the most knowledgeable.... Welcome!1
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Date Miles MTD ------ ----- ------- Jun 04 5.0 5.0 Jun 05 3.6 8.6 Jun 07 3.7 12.3 Jun 09 3.6 15.9 Jun 10 5.1W 21.0 Bare Cove Jun 11 5.1 26.1
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6/1 - 8 miles (daily double: 3.5 & 4.5)
6/2 - 9 miles
6/3 - 5 mile recovery run
6/4 - GW Bridge Challenge 10k (PR - 53:43)
6/5 - 6.25 mile recovery run
6/6 - 9 soaking wet miles
6/7 - 8 miles w/summer track workout (4x1000m w/400m recoveries)
6/8 - 10 miles (daily double: 6 & 4)
6/9 - rest
6/10 - NYRR Mini 10k (6.3 miles - 58:09)
June Total: 67.75/140
668.55 miles/2,017 miles - goal for the year
So yesterday was another race! The NYRR Mini 10k (named after the mini skirt, lol). This is apparently the original all-female road race in the world, started in 1972. Starts at Columbus Circle, goes up Central Park West, then into the park across and back down. Very cool.
I knew I wasn't going to be getting any PR's. I had only had one rest day since my 9 day running streak, which had already included a 10k PR on a net-downhill course, it was a bit warmer, and this course was hillier. It was also a pretty big race, with over 8,000 runners, and so it was quite crowded. It looks like I added about 1/10th of a mile with all the dodging and weaving I did to get through crowds. This was a legit race too, with Olympian and World Champion-level competitors. First place went to a Kenyan woman, and second to an Ethiopian woman. In my age age group (30-34) I finished 502/1,717 and my overall placement was 2,199/8,481, so still pretty good, all things considered, lol. Final time was 58:09, with my Garmin recording a distance of 6.31 (all that dodging and weaving).
Today I have to get in a 13 mile long run, and I'm kinda dreading it, because it's a high of 94 today. I'm not ready for the heat!
I also just had the realization that as of tomorrow, I will have only 5 weeks until I officially start my marathon training plan!!! Eeeeeek!!!
Will update later today, provided I survive this long run I'm about to do, lol.
Running up Central Avenue West
Got a pink bagel and pink flower at the finish! The medal was pink too, lol
Bling!
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@KatieJane83 Great running! And that sounds like a great event.1
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Great race @KatieJane83!
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
06/01/17 :::: 2.4 :::: 2.4
06/02/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 2.4
06/03/17 :::: 8.4 :::: 10.7
06/04/17 :::: 3.1 :::: 13.9
06/05/17 :::: 3.3 :::: 17.2
06/06/17 :::: 3.5 :::: 20.7
06/07/17 :::: 5.0 :::: 25.7
06/08/17 :::: 0.0 :::: 25.7
06/09/17 :::: 3.6 :::: 29.3
06/10/17 :::: 7.8 :::: 37.0
06/11/17 :::: 7.5 :::: 44.5
Goal = 100 miles
Unintended second long run today - or run/walk really. I volunteered for our YMCA 7@7 Trail run, planning to be a course marshal, but ended up being the "sweeper" and running with the last runner for the whole course. It was a tough course with lots of hills, including one famously known as "Hernia Hill". Garmin says 727 feet elevation gain. Felt like more! It was getting pretty hot out there too - started at about 73 degrees and was over 80 by the end. The pace really varied, and we walked a lot of it, but I'm still counting it as a run. I was so glad the last runner wasn't any faster (and she was glad I was there to run with her) because I would not have had it in me to do much more given how hilly it was and having just run my long run yesterday.
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Today's easy 4.5 mile run was at my adjusted HR levels, resulting in an overall slower pace, and more frequent walking, but it went well and the average pace doesn't look too terrible given the temps outside today.
I still have a lot of changes to make, I noticed after my run that the reported HR zones on Garmin Connect were based on my old ones, so all of the HR based data on todays run is basically wrong. Strava and Sport Tracks will also need updating.
Yesterday I took an unscheduled rest day since I realized I had been training too hard for several weeks, and also because of the maximum effort sprint intervals I had done recently. I slept in the last two nights, getting some amazing deep sleep, and this morning I read my resting HR for the first time in a few weeks. It was right on target at my normal 48bpm for my fully rested resting HR. That was reassuring.
So as for a target 5k event 6 weeks from now, it just so happens that the San Francisco Half Marathon is 6 weeks from today. I don't plan to try and race that one, I want to enjoy the scenery and take it all in. I signed up for a 5k the weekend before that on Saturday 7/15, so my target race is 5 weeks out. I also signed up for another 5k on Independence Day 7/4 because it is practically in my backyard, I've run it every year since I learned about it, and it can serve as a practice race.
6/1 - rest
6/2 - 3.1 miles
6/3 - 13.1 miles
6/4 - 4.5 miles
6/5 - 9 miles
6/6 - 4.5 miles
6/7 - 6 miles
6/8 - rest
6/9 - 8.5 miles
6/10 - rest
6/11 - 4.5 miles
53.2 of 170 miles completed
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6/2 - C25K W4D3 2.3 miles
6/4 - C25K W5D1 2.7 miles (includes walking after)
6/6 - C25K W5D2 2.1 miles
6/9 - C25K W5D3 2.1 miles
6/11 - C25K W6D1 2.1 miles (excludes cooldown)
10.3 out of 20
Plenty of time today, and I hate making my turnaround in the middle of a run leg, so didn't turn around until after the 8 minute run. Except I hit the end immediately after meeting the only other pedestrians I'd seen this morning, walking in the other direction. Didn't want to turn around and be right behind them, so walked about a minute first. They were also doing a walk / run combination, so were actually quite far in front of me at that point.
At the start of the cooldown, I started a new timer, so I'd know my walking speed and could back into my running speed, rather than plugging guesses based on perceived exertion into a spreadsheet. It turned out to be 15:04; my guess would have been 16 or maybe even 17. Not bad, considering the last time I knew my walking speed, I could only get to 15:00 at maximum effort, with my pace person haranguing me to walk faster.
That means my run legs were at 12:45 for a slow, easy pace, which I am also pretty happy with.
When I was a preteen, my dad was an ultrarunner; he switched over to distance cycling due to knee issues. Apparently, that exposure sticks with you, despite the passage of 30 years. When I hear "left" from behind me, my left hand reflexively flies up in a wave of acknowledgement.
Vacation next week, so I will run again on the 19th or 20th, depending on how late we get home on the 18th.6
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