June 2017 Running Challenge
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VydorScope wrote: »KatieJane83 wrote: »My long run on Sunday took me 2:23, and I went through 36oz of water, and 4 Clif Shot Bloks w/added salt. It was upper 80s when i started, and 90 w/a realfeel of 92 when I finished, on a partly shady route, but full sun where there was no shade. I definitely need to figure out a better water transportation system, I was running with a 24oz bottle in my hand (which I obviously refilled), and my hydration belt only holds 2 small (8 or 10 oz, I can't remember) bottles. I'm contemplating looking at hydration vests/back packs, since I'll be starting marathon training soon, and my long runs will be getting even longer over the heat of the summer.
@KatieJane83: I have a camel pack, but ugh. The problem is they cover your back and do not all any venting of heat back there. My UA Heat Gear is vented in the back for a reason.
I am probably going to buy an Amphipod RunLite Xtech 4 Plus Hydration Belt (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A7PTISC) because water bottles in my pockets is getting old. 
@VydorScope - I have that belt. I bought it when the bottles for my Nathan belt were wearing out, and the belt was also close to end of useful life.
The good: 4 bottles of 10 ounces each. Great for long runs in warm weather. Enough to get me through a marathon in reasonable weather. The clips slide around, allowing me to position the bottles where I want them. The pouch is big enough to hold my iPhone 5 in its Otterbox, eliminating the need to clip the phone onto the belt. (At Boston, I wanted to totally fill the pouch with gels and a pillbox of S-Caps; so the phone went into a separate SPIbelt. Positioned the SPIbelt pouch at the small of my back, and that worked fine.) I typically run with the pouch in front. This makes it easy to get stuff (i.e., gels or S-caps) stored in the pouch.
The bad: The bottles clip on. It took some time to learn to clip the bottles back in by feel, and in the process I dropped bottles a few times. That resulted in a broken cap, and I ended up having to buy replacement bottles because I didn't find replacement caps. Also, the bottles are less flexible in colder weather. So I use a Nathan belt with a slide in system when the temperature is low enough that this is an issue. At that temperature, being limited to the 2 bottle capacity of the Nathan belt isn't a problem. The loops for gels on the pouch aren't really secure. I quit putting gels in them after having a couple fall out in mid-run. The loops might be secure enough for Shot Blox; I carried one of those around Athletes Village before using it as my "15 minutes before." Later, I thought I could have grabbed more Shot Blox in Athletes' Village and put them in the loops before heading off to the corral.
The belt ships with bottles that have race caps. When I fill the bottles full, they tend to squirt. Replacement bottles with push-pull caps fixes that, for 2 of my bottles. The belt also tends to loosen over time. I've learned to tighten it before every long run and particularly before every race I wear it in.
The strange: With the adjustment issues, this belt does not feel as snug as my Nathan belt. This is not necessarily bad, just different. I find that water bottles ride better on my side or the back of my hip than in front. So I've done a lot of training runs with only 3 bottles, to avoid having 2 bottles in front. I can get used to the bottles in front, but I need to do training runs with them there for it to be natural on race day.
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This might be a silly question, but is there a particular hill length and/or grade range to aim for when doing hill repeats? Or is it whatever you can handle/feel like/mimics race course conditions you're training for?0
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@MobyCarp : I have a single bottle Nathan that holds it on an angle. Could not find a picture of it online, but kind of like this one:
http://www.nathansports.com.au/peak
I have had it for years not sure where I bought it. When I need less water I can swap back to that easy enough. This is only for the hot days of summer where I am currently using that Nathan AND stuffing bottles in my pockets. I have heard complaints with that belt about getting the bottles on and off during a run, and that is why I have been hesitant to buy one. I did order it though so I guess I will find out.
When you say the water squirts out, what do you mean? How much were the replacement bottles?
My Nathan lossens during a long run. I had to stop in my last Marathon and adjust it. Was not happy about that
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VydorScope wrote: »@MobyCarp : I have a single bottle Nathan that holds it on an angle. Could not find a picture of it online, but kind of like this one:
http://www.nathansports.com.au/peak
I have had it for years not sure where I bought it. When I need less water I can swap back to that easy enough. This is only for the hot days of summer where I am currently using that Nathan AND stuffing bottles in my pockets. I have heard complaints with that belt about getting the bottles on and off during a run, and that is why I have been hesitant to buy one. I did order it though so I guess I will find out.
When you say the water squirts out, what do you mean? How much were the replacement bottles?
My Nathan lossens during a long run. I had to stop in my last Marathon and adjust it. Was not happy about that
As I start a run, the bottles jiggle up and down. Some aspect of the motion applies just enough pressure that they can act like a squirt gun. This is more of an early run nuisance than a substantive loss of water.
I don't remember the cost of the replacement bottles; I'm thinking between $10 and $20 for a 2-pack at the local running store. I bought the push-pull cap version because a) it was a little cheaper than replacements with race caps, and b) I wanted something tactile and visual to distinguish which bottles had Nuun vs. water.
Any yes, this belt can loosen during a very long run. (Oddly enough, I don't have that problem with the Nathan belt.) I've learned to adjust on the run. I haven't been sure enough of how tight I want it to go as far as using diaper pins to stop the slip. Among other things, I'm not sure how much of the difference is belt loosening and how much is waistline contraction.0 -
Random carb load question. With my race coming up in 4 days, I'm still kind of stumped on WHEN to start my carb load.... When articles say to start 2-3 days before race day, it kind of annoys me, and my daddy caycare/summer school/tapering brain can't handle that.
So, the question is, do I go into carb loading Tomorrow (3 days before) or wait until Thursday (2 days before)? I have the carbs ready to go, it's just a matter of making sure I take them to work and such.2 -
June goal: 50 miles
6/1/17: 3.5 miles
6/2/17: 1 mile
6/4/17: 4.3 miles
6/5/17: 2 miles
6/6/17: 3.4 miles
6/7/17: 2.4 miles
6/8/17: 2.7 miles
6/11/17: 4.4 miles
6/12/17: 2.8 miles
6/13/17: 2.5 miles
29/50 miles
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It just keeps getting worse here
@MNLittleFinn : I would GUESS two days is fine, but I doubt there would be any negative to three so unless someone that knows more replies, I would personally go with three.0 -
VydorScope wrote: »
It just keeps getting worse here
@MNLittleFinn : I would GUESS two days is fine, but I doubt there would be any negative to three so unless someone that knows more replies, I would personally go with three.
Thanks... Is it bad that I might have been looking for an excuse to gorge myself on carbs for the next few days...LOL.. I was thinking 3 would be better, but didn't know if there was such thing as starting too early...
Oh, and your weather looks nasty. That's like 20 degrees above my current worst case high for race day.0 -
Enjoying my 5am morning runs, but also counting down the days until the weather and pollen levels go down enough that I can go back to sleeping later and running in the evenings
Seriously, do not like summer running, and it's only just begun! Ugh.
June Running Challenge
1st - 3.18 miles
3rd - 4.97 miles
5th - 3.16 miles
7th - 3.28 miles
9th - 3.18 miles
11th - 3.02 miles
13th - 3.26 miles
MTD - 24.05/80 miles
Upcoming Races
25th June - Greenwich Park 10km
22nd July - Richmond Riverside 10km
17th September - Run Reigate HM
23th-24th September - Ragnar Relay
15th October - Manchester HM
26th November - Brett Owler HM3 -
VydorScope wrote: »
It just keeps getting worse here
@MNLittleFinn : I would GUESS two days is fine, but I doubt there would be any negative to three so unless someone that knows more replies, I would personally go with three.
Oooh, you've got me beat.....just! Lol
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KatieJane83 wrote: »
Well feels like has climbed to 107
BUT it says there was a lightning strike 21 miles away so maybe a T-Storm is coming to break up this heat. Would normally wait till much later in the evening to run, but I have company coming tonight.
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1/6 - 3.6
2/6 - 4.9
3/6-5.6
4/6 -REST
5/6-3.9
6/6-4.7
7/6-3.1
8/6-4.3
9/0 -REST
10/6-3.8
11/6-6.5
12/6-REST
13/6-3.7
Total - 44.1/90 Miles3 -
VydorScope wrote: »KatieJane83 wrote: »
Well feels like has climbed to 107 BUT it says there was a lightning strike 21 miles away so maybe a T-Storm is coming to break up this heat. Would normally wait till much later in the evening to run, but I have company coming tonight.
Just be careful on your run! Don't want to get struck by lightning or pass out from dehydration!
I'm not going out til I get out of work at 5:30, so maybe it'll have dropped a couple degrees by then, lol.0 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »Just be careful on your run! Don't want to get struck by lightning or pass out from dehydration!
I'm not going out til I get out of work at 5:30, so maybe it'll have dropped a couple degrees by then, lol.
Oh, I get off work soon, but probably will have to make today a rest day. 107 is asking a bit much
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Did my second 60-minute run today; actually a couple minutes over because I wanted to get to 5.5 miles. Average pace 11:15 so just a bit faster than last one. I was feeling so good running today. Just because.
My next run is another 60-minute run, and then the full 10k. I'm close!
June goal: 24.55 / 5011 -
@VydorScope smart person! I don't blame yaDid my second 60-minute run today; actually a couple minutes over because I wanted to get to 5.5 miles. Average pace 11:15 so just a bit faster than last one. I was feeling so good running today. Just because.
My next run is another 60-minute run, and then the full 10k. I'm close!
June goal: 24.55 / 50
Congrats again @shrcpr! Isn't it a great feeling?? You're gonna rock your 10k!1 -
Haha! It's cool here! 89F (32C) feels like 92, 48% humidity!
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June 1 – 6.0 miles
June 2 – 6.0 miles w/6 x 400m intervals
June 3 – 3.0 miles Easy Run HC22 Resistance 1
June 4 – 0.0 miles Rest Day HC22 Cardio 2
June 5 – 5.0 miles Easy run w/strides (8) HC22 Resistance 1
June 6 – 0.0 miles XT Day Water Zumba and 30 min of swimming laps
June 7 – 10.0 miles Long Run
June 8 – 0.0 miles XT Day HC 22 Cardio 2 and Resistance 2
June 9 – 6.0 miles w/8 x 400m intervals
June 10 – 3.25 miles Easy Run & HC22 Resistance 2
June 11 – 0.0 miles Rest
June 12 – 5.0 miles with 8 hill sprints
June 13 – 0.0 XT Water Zumba and 45 minutes lap swimming
Total: 44.25 miles/100 miles
Races:
June 23 – St. Pete Beach Series, Race #1, 5K
July 21 - St. Pete Beach Series, Race #2, 5K
August 5 – Great Brain Wash 5K Obstacle Run, St. Pete, FL
August 18 - St. Pete Beach Series, Race #3, 5K
September 16 – Samoa Challenge (Thin Mint Sprint 5K and a Tagalong Trot 1 mile), Safety Harbor, FL
November 18 – Insane Inflatable 5K Obstacle Run, Tampa, FL
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KatieJane83 wrote: »@VydorScope smart person! I don't blame yaDid my second 60-minute run today; actually a couple minutes over because I wanted to get to 5.5 miles. Average pace 11:15 so just a bit faster than last one. I was feeling so good running today. Just because.
My next run is another 60-minute run, and then the full 10k. I'm close!
June goal: 24.55 / 50
Congrats again @shrcpr! Isn't it a great feeling?? You're gonna rock your 10k!
Thanks! Yes, it's amazing!3 -
Did my second 60-minute run today; actually a couple minutes over because I wanted to get to 5.5 miles. Average pace 11:15 so just a bit faster than last one. I was feeling so good running today. Just because.
My next run is another 60-minute run, and then the full 10k. I'm close!
June goal: 24.55 / 50
@shrcpr Well done!!1 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »This might be a silly question, but is there a particular hill length and/or grade range to aim for when doing hill repeats? Or is it whatever you can handle/feel like/mimics race course conditions you're training for?
I live in Florida where everything is flat, and in an urban area so it's not like I have regular trails available to me. However, I do have the Pinellas Trail, which is a paved trail that follows the old railroad line through the county. Bridges were built along the trail wherever the trail crosses a busy highway. I use one of those bridges for my hill sprints. So, my distance is the ramp up the bridge.1 -
Well, it just keeps getting worse for me here in June.
First it was the whole race debacle. Then my back. Then the road rash from the fall. And NOW... my hip is acting up again. It started last night... the pain was pretty bad so I sat under the heating pad for a while and then stretched the crap out of it. Feels somewhat better today but I didn't want to risk it so I did not run this morning. Maybe that's a good thing because NOW my IBS is acting up big time. Someone please make it stop....
Bowling tonight (yes, I am going), then I will try to make it out tomorrow morning, assuming there is no thunderstorm like there might be. Maybe something else will happen, like a plague of locusts.1 -
Oh bless you @RespectTheKitty !0
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RespectTheKitty wrote: »Well, it just keeps getting worse for me here in June.
First it was the whole race debacle. Then my back. Then the road rash from the fall. And NOW... my hip is acting up again. It started last night... the pain was pretty bad so I sat under the heating pad for a while and then stretched the crap out of it. Feels somewhat better today but I didn't want to risk it so I did not run this morning. Maybe that's a good thing because NOW my IBS is acting up big time. Someone please make it stop....
Bowling tonight (yes, I am going), then I will try to make it out tomorrow morning, assuming there is no thunderstorm like there might be. Maybe something else will happen, like a plague of locusts.
I believe hail comes before the locusts, so you might get your thunderstorm yet!!3 -
70f here, just had a thunderstorm though, so it's steamy0
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All this talk of weather... I lived in Coronado, CA for 10 months. I don't think it rained the entire time I lived there and the weather was always perfect for running! Low humidity and never too hot. I sure do miss it.
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Well, the heat broke here (it is actually 69 now!) but was replaced by a thunderstorm with hail and 60mph winds. Still not ideal running conditions.
The good news is I do not have to head to work tomorrow so I can get up and run before it is hot.3 -
RespectTheKitty wrote: »Well, it just keeps getting worse for me here in June.
First it was the whole race debacle. Then my back. Then the road rash from the fall. And NOW... my hip is acting up again. It started last night... the pain was pretty bad so I sat under the heating pad for a while and then stretched the crap out of it. Feels somewhat better today but I didn't want to risk it so I did not run this morning. Maybe that's a good thing because NOW my IBS is acting up big time. Someone please make it stop....
Bowling tonight (yes, I am going), then I will try to make it out tomorrow morning, assuming there is no thunderstorm like there might be. Maybe something else will happen, like a plague of locusts.
Oh yuck. So sorry to hear all this. Go bowling and enjoy yourself. And if locusts come, you will just have to out run them is all. 0 -
01/06 3.26 miles
06/06 3.76 miles
07/06 3.77 miles
12/06 3.79 miles
13/06 3.77 miles
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