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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
You do realize that many grains don't contain gluten?
I have celiac disease, but plenty of grains and I are very good friends.
Sorghum is amazing stuff. I've been experimenting fermenting old recipes using sorghum as a base. Has a very earthy sweet flavor to it.
When I was still trying to do gluten free baking, sorghum was one of my favorite flours. Very, very tasty.2 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »I think pregnant women should do whatever it takes to have a healthy baby and maintain their sanity. Making a human ain't a walk in the park.
Hahahahaha. ... you used the words "women" and "sanity" together in the same sentence.
That is pure comedy gold right there, it damn sure is.4 -
French_Peasant wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »
Yeah? You choose to listen to a single OBGYN over the entire CDC, huh?French_Peasant wrote: »amount of weight recommended by an actual OBGYN
Interesting. Yet one more enlightening point.
We call that "confirmation bias."
I wonder what kind of shape they were in but that is a different discussion as well.
I'm done. That just proved my point.
I was a BMI of 22. I put on 38 lbs with both kids. My OBGYN said that I was perfect. I am once again a BMI of 22.
Thank you for inquiring about my children, because I enjoy telling people how delightful they are. My children were and are relentlessly healthy, thin, glossy-haired, bright eyed, and active, with lovely, powerful athletic builds. They are exceedingly intelligent, likely due at least in small part to my impeccable diet and adherence to high-quality vitamin and Omega 3 protocols. They also love music, sing four-part harmony with their respective choirs, and are learning to play the guitar, in addition to their many athletic endeavors. They have not yet been introduced to Kid Rock this side of the birth process, but have large passages of the Lutheran hymnal memorized. I will now forcibly restrain myself from further bragging about them (oh, they are also beeeeyooootiful!)
Regarding the quality of my OBGYN, she served her residency in a noted university hospital, is accomplished, skilled, and highly regarded in our medical community. She is also exceedingly intelligent, and I think has enough critical thinking ability not to get her knickers in a twist when a patient is 3 lbs above the CDC limit. In short, she is a consummate professional. I am guessing that she would have been able to tell I was pregnant, even if for some reason I didn't notice obvious signs of change, like a sudden proclivity for chugging large amounts of milk.
I believe my husband is highly satisfied with beautiful, healthy children; a low-maintenance, responsible and happily pregnant wife; and the high quality of medical care for the family under his watch.
...and pray tell what exactly are you waiting for?
It is extremely difficult. However, we are starting them off with a solid grounding of Cash/Hag/Waylon/George, the Stones, Sugar Hill Gang, general funk, general blues, and selected Beastie Boys.
Totally redeemed yourself. I approve of this plan.
...assuming the Grandmaster of Funk - George Clinton and the P Funk is on the curriculum?3 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »The argument of "meant to" is a weird one. Humans are known for their adaptability. What was that thing that the men adapted to on the Lewis & Clark expedition? Camas root? The first time the ate it they were sick, but with it being the only food source available, they adapted to it (or something like that).
What we are "meant to" do, if anything, is adapt to foods in our environment. It seems very odd to me, if you're going to ascribe to a philosophy of being "meant to" eat certain things, that you'd be plopped into an environment with certain foods not being meant to eat them. Or to better state the reality, given the ability to travel from one environment to another, and having a system which is hardwired to only survive in one's native region.
It just doesn't make sense.
"Meant to do" is inherently a religious argument, as it implies that there is something or someone who imposes meaning.7 -
Motorsheen wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »I think pregnant women should do whatever it takes to have a healthy baby and maintain their sanity. Making a human ain't a walk in the park.
Hahahahaha. ... you used the words "women" and "sanity" together in the same sentence.
That is pure comedy gold right there, it damn sure is.
Right. Because every woman is the same. :noway:
Oh wait... what am I doing here? I again should be in the kitchen. Sorry!11 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »The argument of "meant to" is a weird one. Humans are known for their adaptability. What was that thing that the men adapted to on the Lewis & Clark expedition? Camas root? The first time the ate it they were sick, but with it being the only food source available, they adapted to it (or something like that).
What we are "meant to" do, if anything, is adapt to foods in our environment. It seems very odd to me, if you're going to ascribe to a philosophy of being "meant to" eat certain things, that you'd be plopped into an environment with certain foods not being meant to eat them. Or to better state the reality, given the ability to travel from one environment to another, and having a system which is hardwired to only survive in one's native region.
It just doesn't make sense.
"Meant to do" is inherently a religious argument, as it implies that there is something or someone who imposes meaning.
Yes, exactly.2 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »I think pregnant women should do whatever it takes to have a healthy baby and maintain their sanity. Making a human ain't a walk in the park.
Hahahahaha. ... you used the words "women" and "sanity" together in the same sentence.
That is pure comedy gold right there, it damn sure is.
Right. Because every woman is the same. :noway:
Oh wait... what am I doing here? I again should be in the kitchen. Sorry!
Lighten up, baby; I was clowning.2 -
French_Peasant wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »
Yeah? You choose to listen to a single OBGYN over the entire CDC, huh?French_Peasant wrote: »amount of weight recommended by an actual OBGYN
Interesting. Yet one more enlightening point.
We call that "confirmation bias."
I wonder what kind of shape they were in but that is a different discussion as well.
I'm done. That just proved my point.
I was a BMI of 22. I put on 38 lbs with both kids. My OBGYN said that I was perfect. I am once again a BMI of 22.
Thank you for inquiring about my children, because I enjoy telling people how delightful they are. My children were and are relentlessly healthy, thin, glossy-haired, bright eyed, and active, with lovely, powerful athletic builds. They are exceedingly intelligent, likely due at least in small part to my impeccable diet and adherence to high-quality vitamin and Omega 3 protocols. They also love music, sing four-part harmony with their respective choirs, and are learning to play the guitar, in addition to their many athletic endeavors. They have not yet been introduced to Kid Rock this side of the birth process, but have large passages of the Lutheran hymnal memorized. I will now forcibly restrain myself from further bragging about them (oh, they are also beeeeyooootiful!)
Regarding the quality of my OBGYN, she served her residency in a noted university hospital, is accomplished, skilled, and highly regarded in our medical community. She is also exceedingly intelligent, and I think has enough critical thinking ability not to get her knickers in a twist when a patient is 3 lbs above the CDC limit. In short, she is a consummate professional. I am guessing that she would have been able to tell I was pregnant, even if for some reason I didn't notice obvious signs of change, like a sudden proclivity for chugging large amounts of milk.
I believe my husband is highly satisfied with beautiful, healthy children; a low-maintenance, responsible and happily pregnant wife; and the high quality of medical care for the family under his watch.
...and pray tell what exactly are you waiting for?
It is extremely difficult. However, we are starting them off with a solid grounding of Cash/Hag/Waylon/George, the Stones, Sugar Hill Gang, general funk, general blues, and selected Beastie Boys.
Totally redeemed yourself. I approve of this plan.
...assuming the Grandmaster of Funk - George Clinton and the P Funk is on the curriculum?
Uncut Funk is its own course, with a dance party final exam involving ***FLASHLIGHT!!!****
They can also choose to minor in hermeneutics of the assorted sartorial choices of the Commodores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQUZj57oljA 6 -
French_Peasant wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Wait, are women who have had actual pregnancies, some multiples, being mansplained about pregnancy?!
That is indeed the situation.
Fortunately there are men, like my husband, who tolerate their wives putting on the amount of weight recommended by an actual OBGYN for the trade off of knowing their music-loving little tyke had enough energy to quicken at the thunderous rumble of a cathedral-quality pipe organ ("A Mighty Fortress Is Our God") and to rock out at a Kid Rock concert (in Detroit...it doesn't get any better than flames, strippers, fur coats, and some assertive head banging going on in one's belly).
Wait, there were strippers with fur coats in your belly?? I think that's far more concerning than how much weight you did or didn't gain (and possibly also an explanation...).12 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »The argument of "meant to" is a weird one. Humans are known for their adaptability. What was that thing that the men adapted to on the Lewis & Clark expedition? Camas root? The first time the ate it they were sick, but with it being the only food source available, they adapted to it (or something like that).
What we are "meant to" do, if anything, is adapt to foods in our environment. It seems very odd to me, if you're going to ascribe to a philosophy of being "meant to" eat certain things, that you'd be plopped into an environment with certain foods not being meant to eat them. Or to better state the reality, given the ability to travel from one environment to another, and having a system which is hardwired to only survive in one's native region.
It just doesn't make sense.
Not to speak of the fact that absolutely nothing we eat today is the way it was originally in nature, so nothing available is the way it would have been "meant to" be.10 -
I don't know if the recommendations have changed, but when i had my kids in the early 90's, my doctor advised me that 10-11kgs (22-24lbs) is around the norm for weight gain during pregnancy. I put on 55lbs with my first who weighed only 6lb 8oz, i ate way too much during that pregnancy and was most definitely a piggy! I ate normally with my second kid who weighed nearly 9lb and put on 20-22lbs.
ETA: My daughter the 6 pounder is a shortass 5"2, and my son, the 9 pounder is a 6' tall athletic machine. SO, this tells me the amount of weight gained during pregnancy doesn't have any effect on how they turn out. I was definitely not malnourished during my first pregnancy..4 -
stevencloser wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »The argument of "meant to" is a weird one. Humans are known for their adaptability. What was that thing that the men adapted to on the Lewis & Clark expedition? Camas root? The first time the ate it they were sick, but with it being the only food source available, they adapted to it (or something like that).
What we are "meant to" do, if anything, is adapt to foods in our environment. It seems very odd to me, if you're going to ascribe to a philosophy of being "meant to" eat certain things, that you'd be plopped into an environment with certain foods not being meant to eat them. Or to better state the reality, given the ability to travel from one environment to another, and having a system which is hardwired to only survive in one's native region.
It just doesn't make sense.
Not to speak of the fact that absolutely nothing we eat today is the way it was originally in nature, so nothing available is the way it would have been "meant to" be.
It's still possible to find those foods. It just takes a lot of time, money and effort and most people don't have the means to do so.
Begs the question : how to provide affordable and nutritious food to the masses?
(I don't have the answers)1 -
Motorsheen wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »The argument of "meant to" is a weird one. Humans are known for their adaptability. What was that thing that the men adapted to on the Lewis & Clark expedition? Camas root? The first time the ate it they were sick, but with it being the only food source available, they adapted to it (or something like that).
What we are "meant to" do, if anything, is adapt to foods in our environment. It seems very odd to me, if you're going to ascribe to a philosophy of being "meant to" eat certain things, that you'd be plopped into an environment with certain foods not being meant to eat them. Or to better state the reality, given the ability to travel from one environment to another, and having a system which is hardwired to only survive in one's native region.
It just doesn't make sense.
Not to speak of the fact that absolutely nothing we eat today is the way it was originally in nature, so nothing available is the way it would have been "meant to" be.
It's still possible to find those foods. It just takes a lot of time, money and effort and most people don't have the means to do so.
Begs the question : how to provide affordable and nutritious food to the masses?
(I don't have the answers)
Give them a ride to the grocery store?11 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »The argument of "meant to" is a weird one. Humans are known for their adaptability. What was that thing that the men adapted to on the Lewis & Clark expedition? Camas root? The first time the ate it they were sick, but with it being the only food source available, they adapted to it (or something like that).
What we are "meant to" do, if anything, is adapt to foods in our environment. It seems very odd to me, if you're going to ascribe to a philosophy of being "meant to" eat certain things, that you'd be plopped into an environment with certain foods not being meant to eat them. Or to better state the reality, given the ability to travel from one environment to another, and having a system which is hardwired to only survive in one's native region.
It just doesn't make sense.
Not to speak of the fact that absolutely nothing we eat today is the way it was originally in nature, so nothing available is the way it would have been "meant to" be.
It's still possible to find those foods. It just takes a lot of time, money and effort and most people don't have the means to do so.
Begs the question : how to provide affordable and nutritious food to the masses?
(I don't have the answers)
Give them a ride to the grocery store?
I reckon they can ride on my handlebars down to the farmer's market. ...3 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Wait, are women who have had actual pregnancies, some multiples, being mansplained about pregnancy?!
That is indeed the situation.
Fortunately there are men, like my husband, who tolerate their wives putting on the amount of weight recommended by an actual OBGYN for the trade off of knowing their music-loving little tyke had enough energy to quicken at the thunderous rumble of a cathedral-quality pipe organ ("A Mighty Fortress Is Our God") and to rock out at a Kid Rock concert (in Detroit...it doesn't get any better than flames, strippers, fur coats, and some assertive head banging going on in one's belly).
Wait, there were strippers with fur coats in your belly?? I think that's far more concerning than how much weight you did or didn't gain (and possibly also an explanation...).
NO!!! It was Kid Rock, with a fur coat, in my belly! The strippers were next to nekkid.
(I did spend a certain amount of time inspecting that Oxford comma, wondering if that would do the trick....apparently the answer is NO. Ha ha!)0 -
French_Peasant wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Wait, are women who have had actual pregnancies, some multiples, being mansplained about pregnancy?!
That is indeed the situation.
Fortunately there are men, like my husband, who tolerate their wives putting on the amount of weight recommended by an actual OBGYN for the trade off of knowing their music-loving little tyke had enough energy to quicken at the thunderous rumble of a cathedral-quality pipe organ ("A Mighty Fortress Is Our God") and to rock out at a Kid Rock concert (in Detroit...it doesn't get any better than flames, strippers, fur coats, and some assertive head banging going on in one's belly).
Wait, there were strippers with fur coats in your belly?? I think that's far more concerning than how much weight you did or didn't gain (and possibly also an explanation...).
NO!!! It was Kid Rock, with a fur coat, in my belly! The strippers were next to nekkid.
(I did spend a certain amount of time inspecting that Oxford comma, wondering if that would do the trick....apparently the answer is NO. Ha ha!)
Nah, I totally got the Oxford comma, I just chose to ignore it on this occasion for the sake of LOLs
That's very considerate of you to supply your child with a fur coat whilst in utero though. No wonder they are turning out so well!3 -
Motorsheen wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Motorsheen wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »I think pregnant women should do whatever it takes to have a healthy baby and maintain their sanity. Making a human ain't a walk in the park.
Hahahahaha. ... you used the words "women" and "sanity" together in the same sentence.
That is pure comedy gold right there, it damn sure is.
Right. Because every woman is the same. :noway:
Oh wait... what am I doing here? I again should be in the kitchen. Sorry!
Lighten up, baby; I was clowning.
I'm not your baby.27 -
dancefit2015 wrote: »I don't believe humans were necessarily meant to eat grain nor dairy... Maybe some have adapted but I know many people and myself feel terrible after eating any gluten or dairy.
Humans are not meant to travel in space and we still do...
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snickerscharlie wrote: »I find it somewhat amazing that a guy that had no idea his wife was pregnant until she gave birth thinks he's qualified to argue with women (some of whom have given birth) regarding pregnancy.
This has me a bit gobsmacked as well. I'm getting the impression that there might be a weird sense of proprietary pride in his wife not having gained any weight during her pregnancy (instead of becoming - what was it? Oh, yeah a "piggy") going on here and that that is something that's healthy/desirable/to be strived for in a pregnant wife?
tl;dr: fatshaming in a humble brag disguise
PS: If it matters, I've given birth. I gained weight. I had a healthy daughter. I lost weight. Happy end of story.
Yes this is what it smells like to me too.
Related, I don't know if my opinion is popular or unpopular but I do know my OB is of the same opinion: That women who claim to not know they were pregnant until they went into labor are full of baloney.15 -
Lourdesong wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »I find it somewhat amazing that a guy that had no idea his wife was pregnant until she gave birth thinks he's qualified to argue with women (some of whom have given birth) regarding pregnancy.
This has me a bit gobsmacked as well. I'm getting the impression that there might be a weird sense of proprietary pride in his wife not having gained any weight during her pregnancy (instead of becoming - what was it? Oh, yeah a "piggy") going on here and that that is something that's healthy/desirable/to be strived for in a pregnant wife?
tl;dr: fatshaming in a humble brag disguise
PS: If it matters, I've given birth. I gained weight. I had a healthy daughter. I lost weight. Happy end of story.
Yes this is what it smells like to me too.
Related, I don't know if my opinion is popular or unpopular but I do know my OB is of the same opinion: That women who claim to not know they were pregnant until they went into labor are full of baloney.
How could these women not feel their babies kicking and moving around inside them?? There were many times during my pregnancies where my bare stomach looked like there was an alien in there trying to escape!10
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