Diet Coke, friend or foe?
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janejellyroll wrote: »
Not here to debate, but to add my personal opinion like 200 other people on this thread.
I'm not debating you, I'm pointing out a flaw in the construction of your statement. Whether one is health conscious or "just weight loss conscious," Diet Coke is an acceptable choice.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
Not here to debate, but to add my personal opinion like 200 other people on this thread.
There's also this thing called science...aspartame is one of the most long term studied artificial sweetener and health organizations world wide have deemed it safe...I have a diet fresca most evenings, especially in the summer...I also eat a crap ton of veg along with lean proteins, healthy fats, legumes, etc and I cycle at least 50 miles per week...
Tell me again how I'm not health conscious...9 -
WinoGelato wrote: »No, it's not healthy. It's basically a bunch of chemicals mixed together to be sinfully addictive & wonderful. I'm a believer in real, organic food, but I'm addicted to diet mt dew....I allow myself one a day. We can't be saints. Everything in moderation.
So you didn't bother to read the whole thread?
In particular, this link?
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary
There is nothing "scientific" about this thread. It is simply one MFP user's long-winded opinion, and because he has a scientific background, and it goes along with the pro artificial sweetener mentality, it gets posted over and over to prove that it is safe. I truly don't understand how this thread is "scientific" and articles that get posted against artificial sweeteners are all "unscientific"?
*headdesk*
JHRC....5 -
CarlDuffin1 wrote: »What's the difference between Coke Zero and Diet Coke - apart from the different label?
Diet Coke uses just aspartame. Coke Zero has aspartame and one of the other sweeteners, I forget which one.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Not here to debate, but to add my personal opinion like 200 other people on this thread.
I'm not debating you, I'm pointing out a flaw in the construction of your statement. Whether one is health conscious or "just weight loss conscious," Diet Coke is an acceptable choice.
But in my opinion, Diet drinks are not healthy. The originator of this post, asked for opinions not just scientific evidence. I will not retract my opinion because it's mine. You have your opinions and I have the right to mine.
My mother is a 3 time cancer survivor. When it came back the 3rd time, I researched everything I could about why this was occuring in our society. What I realized was that Food Matters. The oncologist told us that it didn't matter what my mother ate during her chemo, just that she ate. I call bullspit on that. We start feeding her the most nutrious foods that we could find. We watched her nutrition chart like a hawk and when she was dipping on one nutrient, we pumped her full of it. The Dr couldn't believe how well she came out of her chemo treatments because they pumped her full of heavy chemo. They asked us 'what are you doing?', because they couldn't believe that nutrition could make that kind of difference.
Food is not the only thing that matters, but it is the biggest variable that I can control. I choose to put only food, that feeds my body what it needs to stay healthy, in it. And yes I'm here on this forum because I'm fat. I love food and I have eaten way too much of it, but I am working on that.
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Water is probably the best thing to hydrate your body. Having said that, I love Pepsi max and I'm not planning to give it up any time soon
I don't know much about the science one way or another - there seem to be so many opposing 'facts' and opinions flying around! - but I find that these things in moderation are fine. The same as anything else really!1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Not here to debate, but to add my personal opinion like 200 other people on this thread.
I'm not debating you, I'm pointing out a flaw in the construction of your statement. Whether one is health conscious or "just weight loss conscious," Diet Coke is an acceptable choice.
But in my opinion, Diet drinks are not healthy. The originator of this post, asked for opinions not just scientific evidence. I will not retract my opinion because it's mine. You have your opinions and I have the right to mine.
My mother is a 3 time cancer survivor. When it came back the 3rd time, I researched everything I could about why this was occuring in our society. What I realized was that Food Matters. The oncologist told us that it didn't matter what my mother ate during her chemo, just that she ate. I call bullspit on that. We start feeding her the most nutrious foods that we could find. We watched her nutrition chart like a hawk and when she was dipping on one nutrient, we pumped her full of it. The Dr couldn't believe how well she came out of her chemo treatments because they pumped her full of heavy chemo. They asked us 'what are you doing?', because they couldn't believe that nutrition could make that kind of difference.
Food is not the only thing that matters, but it is the biggest variable that I can control. I choose to put only food, that feeds my body what it needs to stay healthy, in it. And yes I'm here on this forum because I'm fat. I love food and I have eaten way too much of it, but I am working on that.
Of course nutrition matters, I don't see anyone debating that. I have never seen anyone debate that on here yet it is the same tired argument over and over again. What people were rebutting was your assertion that Diet drinks are unhealthy. They may not add the nutrition that vegetables do, but that doesn't mean they have to be completely excluded from a diet. Do you seriously only consume foods that you feel add nutrition or are there things you consume because they actually taste good? How would one even make that distinction as to what is "good" and what is "bad"?6 -
A 1922 booklet about the dangers of opium.
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Water is probably the best thing to hydrate your body. Having said that, I love Pepsi max and I'm not planning to give it up any time soon
I don't know much about the science one way or another - there seem to be so many opposing 'facts' and opinions flying around! - but I find that these things in moderation are fine. The same as anything else really!
99.99% of diet coke is water
HTH
HAND
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janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Not here to debate, but to add my personal opinion like 200 other people on this thread.
I'm not debating you, I'm pointing out a flaw in the construction of your statement. Whether one is health conscious or "just weight loss conscious," Diet Coke is an acceptable choice.
But in my opinion, Diet drinks are not healthy. The originator of this post, asked for opinions not just scientific evidence. I will not retract my opinion because it's mine. You have your opinions and I have the right to mine.
My mother is a 3 time cancer survivor. When it came back the 3rd time, I researched everything I could about why this was occuring in our society. What I realized was that Food Matters. The oncologist told us that it didn't matter what my mother ate during her chemo, just that she ate. I call bullspit on that. We start feeding her the most nutrious foods that we could find. We watched her nutrition chart like a hawk and when she was dipping on one nutrient, we pumped her full of it. The Dr couldn't believe how well she came out of her chemo treatments because they pumped her full of heavy chemo. They asked us 'what are you doing?', because they couldn't believe that nutrition could make that kind of difference.
Food is not the only thing that matters, but it is the biggest variable that I can control. I choose to put only food, that feeds my body what it needs to stay healthy, in it. And yes I'm here on this forum because I'm fat. I love food and I have eaten way too much of it, but I am working on that.
You have a right to your opinion, but "[x] is not healthy" is a statement of fact. We don't all get to have our own set of facts.8 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Not here to debate, but to add my personal opinion like 200 other people on this thread.
I'm not debating you, I'm pointing out a flaw in the construction of your statement. Whether one is health conscious or "just weight loss conscious," Diet Coke is an acceptable choice.
But in my opinion, Diet drinks are not healthy. The originator of this post, asked for opinions not just scientific evidence. I will not retract my opinion because it's mine. You have your opinions and I have the right to mine.
My mother is a 3 time cancer survivor. When it came back the 3rd time, I researched everything I could about why this was occuring in our society. What I realized was that Food Matters. The oncologist told us that it didn't matter what my mother ate during her chemo, just that she ate. I call bullspit on that. We start feeding her the most nutrious foods that we could find. We watched her nutrition chart like a hawk and when she was dipping on one nutrient, we pumped her full of it. The Dr couldn't believe how well she came out of her chemo treatments because they pumped her full of heavy chemo. They asked us 'what are you doing?', because they couldn't believe that nutrition could make that kind of difference.
Food is not the only thing that matters, but it is the biggest variable that I can control. I choose to put only food, that feeds my body what it needs to stay healthy, in it. And yes I'm here on this forum because I'm fat. I love food and I have eaten way too much of it, but I am working on that.
Whether something is healthy or not is not an opinion.5 -
Except your body produces glucose even if you don't eat it.3
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »It's fine. Diet Dr Pepper is where it's at
I so wish more bars stocked that. I usually only drink soda (with rum) when I'm out dancing.
Same on the diet cherry pepsi/coke.0 -
Is there really such a thing as opposing facts? I think we are getting in the territory of Schrodinger's Cat.3
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Yes, aggressive cancers are nutrition hogs. That's one of the reasons they are killers. They'll co-opt blood vessels, nutrition, anything they can get for their own growth, and hell to the poor host.0
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cerise_noir wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »No, it's not healthy. It's basically a bunch of chemicals mixed together to be sinfully addictive & wonderful. I'm a believer in real, organic food, but I'm addicted to diet mt dew....I allow myself one a day. We can't be saints. Everything in moderation.
So you didn't bother to read the whole thread?
In particular, this link?
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary
There is nothing "scientific" about this thread. It is simply one MFP user's long-winded opinion, and because he has a scientific background, and it goes along with the pro artificial sweetener mentality, it gets posted over and over to prove that it is safe. I truly don't understand how this thread is "scientific" and articles that get posted against artificial sweeteners are all "unscientific"?
*headdesk*
JHRC....
I have no idea what JHRC means. I know it is probably derogatory, but that's all I know.janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »
Not here to debate, but to add my personal opinion like 200 other people on this thread.
I'm not debating you, I'm pointing out a flaw in the construction of your statement. Whether one is health conscious or "just weight loss conscious," Diet Coke is an acceptable choice.
But in my opinion, Diet drinks are not healthy. The originator of this post, asked for opinions not just scientific evidence. I will not retract my opinion because it's mine. You have your opinions and I have the right to mine.
My mother is a 3 time cancer survivor. When it came back the 3rd time, I researched everything I could about why this was occuring in our society. What I realized was that Food Matters. The oncologist told us that it didn't matter what my mother ate during her chemo, just that she ate. I call bullspit on that. We start feeding her the most nutrious foods that we could find. We watched her nutrition chart like a hawk and when she was dipping on one nutrient, we pumped her full of it. The Dr couldn't believe how well she came out of her chemo treatments because they pumped her full of heavy chemo. They asked us 'what are you doing?', because they couldn't believe that nutrition could make that kind of difference.
Food is not the only thing that matters, but it is the biggest variable that I can control. I choose to put only food, that feeds my body what it needs to stay healthy, in it. And yes I'm here on this forum because I'm fat. I love food and I have eaten way too much of it, but I am working on that.
I agree with your post. Food is fuel for your body and if you feed it crap, it will run like crap. I talk to a lot of different people at my job. I spoke to one lady who had MS. She failed every test her doctor gave her because her MS was so bad. She did research and found info that said gluten could have an effect on MS. She cut out all gluten and went 100% organic. 8 months later when she went back to the doctor she passed every test the doc gave her. He said he had never seen MS reverse. Her scans were almost completely clear. So has this been proven that it is effective against certain disease? No it hasn't, but you can't take her results away from her. I for one believe in food effecting the body in more ways that simply calories.8 -
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