August 2017 Running Challenge
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I feel better about the whole "your calves are gargantuan" comment now. I snapped a pic and they're not horrible.... Sure my quads need help, which are 46 at the widest.
Thanks so much everyone for sharing your measurements. I don't feel like a goon from Popeye now.
@shanaber 80% humidity run! Yuck!!!
1---5.49mi/ 8.85km
3---4.23/ 6.82
Total 9.72/15.68
Goal 89 miles/144 km
Upcoming races:
Oct 1 Spirit of Survival, Lawton OK. Quarter Marathon
AIM for the Cure- 5K, virual run
Dec 2- POOP trail run, Hoping for a half! Norman OK.
Pre-op PR's
1 mile 8:27 5k 24:42. 10k 1:00.52. HM 2:17.28
Post-op Training PR's 1 mile 10:04 5k 34.27 10k 1:20.011 -
carrie_eliza wrote: »
I've stuck to my training plan three days in a row! *is proud*
W00T!! You go! That is more than I usually do!
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@7lenny7 you have several races thst are on my possible list for next year.0
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8/1- 6.1
8/1- 4.2
8/2- 6.1
8/3- 4.5
8/3- 6
Total: 26.9
August Goal: Not die while ramping up running mileage and technicality during 100K training
Nominal mileage goal: 250 miles
Today's notes: Evening run went well. HR was a little higher than I wanted at 152, but kept overall in z2 or z1 for more than 80% of the run.
Have a Runderful day everyone!
2017 Races Scheduled
6/16- William A Irvin 5k
6/17- Grandma's Marathon 4:24:06
7/15- Eugene Curnow Trail Marathon 7:22:23
8/12- UMTR FatAss "Not Quite" 50k
8/19- Rampage at the Ridge 5k OCR
9/23- Ely Marathon (full)
10/21 Wild Duluth 100k
11/23- TBD 5k Turkey5 -
Continuing with the mid-week long run trend from last week, I ran 8 miles on the treadmill today (thunderstorms prevented me from going to the Woods). The Cubs game was on and I kind of got caught up in it and next thing I know... 8 miles. Sure, why not?
There's been two rain delays in the game and I just got home after about a 45 minute ride home from the gym and the game is STILL on. Doesn't look good for my Cubbies though, they're down 10-8 against the Diamondbacks.
I've officially set my calories in MFP to maintenance. With this medication I'm on, there's really no way I'm going to lose any more weight any time soon. In fact, it's starting to creep up a bit thanks to the increased appetite. I'm hoping by just maintaining for a while that I won't feel as deprived, which always leads to bingeing later on. We'll see what happens.
August total - 14.2 / 100 miles7 -
8/1: 7 miles of Track Tuesday
8/2: 7 miles easy
8/3: 8 miles "tempo run"
8/3: 6.3 miles group run
28.3 miles of 250 goal miles
Work was a total mess today, but I have a handle on things going in to tomorrow so I was far less stressed for my evening run than for my morning run. And it showed in my pace. While my HR was about the same between both runs, my easy, social group run was ~30 seconds per mile FASTER than my TEMPO run this morning but felt leagues easier. Never again will I doubt the negative impact of stress on performance!
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_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
@Elise4270 Please tell me you are talking about radius, or measured in inches? I just checked, my thigh circumference at the largest is nearly 20cm larger than my calves. I'm down to my goal weight, ran more than a thousand km so far this year (and cycled 1600km more), do body-weight exercises as strength training twice per week, and they are still fat. I know I'll never ever be able to wear skinny jeans. I hate buying any kind of jeans at all because either they I can't pull them up over my thighs or *kitten*, and if I do, they are way too wide at the waist.
... sorry for the rant, but you asked
I read a story about a woman that couldn't wear pants because her proportions didn't fit pants. She had some taylored when she landed a dream job and knew she's needed help with her professional wordrobe. (Kind of a nice problem to have). Before that she only wore skirts and dresses the story was great, wish I could remember where I read it years ago.
So, you should have some taylored
Every thing that fits my waist is baggy in the butt/thighs. *Shrugs* I don't like tight clothes anyhow. May have some taylored when I land that dream job...
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@Elise4270 I have no idea what my legs measure anymore honestly but I have proportionally pretty big calves now whereas I didn't a year ago (loss versus maintenance truths
). My quads are also beginning to make my pants annoying.
My husband has said stuff too, I just roll with it- my big *kitten* calves take me great places, yours do too! Do whatever leg work makes you happy and love them legs my dear- I'm sure your husband is pro whatever you've got!
So my new Saucony Hurricanes came today...they are so freaking nice! I can't wait to run them hard tomorrow...but I also want to run Wilmore tomorrow which would require my Nomads. Why can't I just run everything in one pair of shoes without obliterating them? Haha
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Another thought on our legs after looking at @JessicaMcB's picture ^^^ ... When you think about it they are pretty damn amazingly muscular and well defined! I don't think any of us should be embarrassed about showing them off, running scars and all. You worked hard for those muscles and the scars are badges from your runs!! Be proud of those legs and what they can do!10
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Another thought on our legs after looking at @JessicaMcB's picture ^^^ ... When you think about it they are pretty damn amazingly muscular and well defined! I don't think any of us should be embarrassed about showing them off, running scars and all. You worked hard for those muscles and the scars are badges from your runs!! Be proud of those legs and what they can do!
Exactly, no one in this thread will have big calves or quads for no reason- you earn your physique! Love what you've worked for and don't let people who won't do the same try to convince you that those gains aren't awesome
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All you ladies bemoaning your large calves: Stop that right now! Large calves are attractive. They mean you have a well-developed gastrocnemius, and you can run. This is a survival trait. You don't need to out-run the bear, you only need to out-run the fashion model with skinny calves.22
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All you ladies bemoaning your large calves: Stop that right now! Large calves are attractive. They mean you have a well-developed gastrocnemius, and you can run. This is a survival trait. You don't need to out-run the bear, you only need to out-run the fashion model with skinny calves.
Yes, surviving the zombie apocalypse is basically going to ride on calves and quads people- there's a reason Rick is always running 7 -
Read an article recently that said running makes you 7-10 years younger - I think you would be happy to have larger thighs in trade for that
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August Running Totals (miles)
8/1 – 9.06 warm up + speed work
8/2 – unplanned rest day
8/3 – 15.02 easy
August total to date – 24.08
Nominal challenge goal: 260 miles
Real goals: Stay healthy. Train well toward the Rochester Marathon. Win my age group at Pound the Ground 10K on August 9. Run a respectable sub-20 5K at Bergen on August 12. Run the USATF Masters Mile (road) in under 6 minutes on August 25.
Today's notes – Coach is out of town, so I expected that club practice wouldn't be very organized this evening. I planned to go there anyway, because today's assignment was 15 miles at E, and I can run some non-technical trails with soft surfaces out of that venue. Many of the trails have shade, and the weather forecast was more of the same not terribly hot but humid, with scattered thundershowers. Chance of rain was low, 10% or so.
Then I got into a text conversation with Coach. He asked me to communicate a recommended workout to the club, 3-4 x 1000m at I pace, with same time recovery. Thought about that, and made a sign to post at the track so I could go out for the warmup and just keep running to 15 miles. For the off chance of rain, I put the printed sign in a gallon ziplock bag, and posted it on the chain link fence with 4 clothespins.
Ran the first mile with a slightly slower club member, which was good. It won't hurt me to slow down a bit. Right now, it's more about muscles and tendons than about heart and lungs. Parted ways with the other guy at about a mile, and it began to get cooler. Passed him on the way back. "I hope you don't get caught in a thunderstorm," he says. I reply, "God casteth the rain on the just and the unjust." Yeah.
The showers started at about 3.2 miles. At first they were pleasant. The serious rain started about 3.75 miles, and lasted past the 5 mile mark before gradually backing off. Not to worry, I'm wearing Darn Tough socks. I will have to step in some puddles, and my feet will get wet, but I won't get blisters. And I was going to get wet anyway, either hot sweat or clean rain. The cooler temperature actually felt pretty good, I was on the Erie Canal path where I don't have to worry about automotive traffic, and the rain kept the walking pedestrians away. That much was quite pleasant. And what the heck, if it rains on September 17 there will still be a Rochester Marathon to run.
The more annoying thing was, once the rain got hard I had trouble reading my watch. I ran mostly by feel. I was wearing the Vivofit on my other wrist; most times I looked at it, my heart rate was in the low to mid 130s. Oh, well. I can sustain that by feel on a mostly flat route. Saw a flash of lightning. There was a noticeable pause, then the corresponding rumble of thunder. I remember my mother telling me to count seconds between the lightning and thunder, and that's how many miles away the lightning is. As an adult, I realize that implies that the speed of sound is one mile per second; I think it's actually slower than that. In any case, the perceptible lag between flash and sound gave me some comfort that it wasn't close.
Ran around a downed tree right at 6 miles. Found a downed tree totally blocking the path at 6.38 miles, so that was my turnaround instead of the planned turnaround of 7.5 or 8 miles. Made up for it with an out and back past where I needed to leave the canal path, and ended up very close to 15 miles when I got back to base. No one was there, which was pretty much expected. 4 x 1000 at I is a short workout compared to 15 miles at E. Retrieved my sign and clothespins, and came home.
The Achilles niggle from yesterday was still there this morning, but not nearly as bad. I felt good about trying the 15 miles, and particularly good that I could put some of them on soft trails. On the way back, I added some distance with a trail detour that ended up running a lot on grass beside the trail puddle. This type of running has been good for my Achilles niggle in the past, and it seems to have been good for it today as well.
So the plan of just taking an extra rest day yesterday seems to be workout out well. This week will be more of a cutback week than the marathon training plan calls for, because that's what I need right now. Next week will be a bit lower mileage than the plan, as well. Lower volume weeks when I traveled to races worked out well last training cycle, so I'm inclined to do that deliberately for local races this time around.
Have to remember that the most important goal is stay healthy. I don't need to crush the finish time at Rochester; I need to finish healthy and would like to have a decent time that improves my corral at Boston 2018. To achieve that, avoiding injury is far more important than working to get faster than I already am.
2017 races:
January 1, 2017 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY) Finished in 50:45
January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) Finished in 1:32:40
January 14, 2017 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds Park 5 mile) (Spencerport, NY) Finished in 33:42
January 28, 2017 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY) short course, finished 4.88 miles in 32:50
February 4, 2017 USATF Cross Country National Championship Masters 8K (Bend, OR) Finished in 35:39, team won the 60+ Men's cross country championship
February 11, 2017 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) sat out due to training schedule
February 25, 2017 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) short course, finished 4.34 miles in 27:51
March 11, 2017 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 33:25
March 18, 2017 USATF Masters 8K Championship (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 30:59, PR for 8K
April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:49:42
April 30, 2017 USATF Masters 10K Championship (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 39:54, PR for 10K
May 21, 2017 Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) finished in 40:04
May 27, 2017 Canandaigua Classic Half Marathon (Canandaigua, NY) finished in 1:33:06
June 9, 2017 Charlie McMullen Mile (Fairport, NY) finished in 5:44.90, PR for mile
June 18, 2017 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) finished in 19:32
July 4, 2017 Firecracker Four Mile (Fairport, NY) finished in 25:42
July 15, 2017 Shoreline Half Marathon [1:40 pacer] (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:39:05
July 28, 2017 Karknocker 5K (East Rochester, NY) finished in 19:28
August 9, 2017 Pound the Ground 10K (Mendon, NY)
August 12, 2017 Bergen Road Race 5K (Bergen, NY)
August 25, 2017 USATF Masters Mile (Hap Crim Michigan Mile, Flint, MI)
September 3, 2017 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY)
September 17, 2017 MVP Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
November 23, 2017 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
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8/1/17 - 3.01 miles treadmill before weight lifting.
8/2/17 - 6.13 miles
8/3/17 - 3.03 miles on the treadmill before weight lifting.
Upcoming Races:
9/9/17 - Wabash Trace HM (Maybe)
10/21/17 - Oregon Trail Run HM6 -
Today was a gorgeous day... like 65-70 degrees when I got off of work.... one can't just NOT run when August gives you weather like that. Right?
So I ran... and now I am hanging out with a bag of ice. As has been my general operating mode lately, "not my brightest idea."
It was REALLY slow. But it also makes my heart happy to know I still CAN/still have the endurance to get a decent run in. Now whether I SHOULD.... yeah... not the brightest child, clearly.
PS- I cannot contribute to this random calf to thigh ratio conversation until I am back home from workweek travel. But y'all do have me curious now.4 -
I didn't get the rain, but I did get temps in the upper 50's (F). Such a wonderful run. My HR was 20 points lower than it was last week on the same route.
8.1 miles for the day, 14.2 for the month, out of a 100 mile goal.
After the run and shower I took the family out for dinner. Walking out to my truck afterwards, I felt an odd pain in my right Achilles. Hmmmm...not happy about that. it's a different pain than what I've had in the past. I may have gotten back into it a little too aggressively.
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It was a dark and stormy night, the rain was coming down in grey sheets.
Picture a Grumpy Runner staring out the window looking for a break in the weather for about 2 hours.
I kept an eye on the weather channel watching the Radar and Satellite updates.
It looked like there was going to be a break in the storm between two different weather systems.
As the back of the first system passed through it quit pouring, it looked like about a 1 - 2 hr window before the next system would hit. I was planning on Pats Creek Trail and 12 ft Davis Hill, but they are dirt so I thought they would be an ugly mess - A quick Drive past the bottom of them proved that Pat's Creek was a Creek and 12 ft Davis was an absolute Mud Bowl with water rivulets running down the middle of it. Normally I would relish the challenge - but I am one week out from my major event for the year and injury phobia is heavy - So I changed plan and went over to Judah Hill ( paved ) so It would be passible.
14 km Judah Hill Climb. Managed to get a quick run in between Storms.
Set 2 new PB's ; 1/2 mile Best estimated effort (3:37) ; 400m Best estimated effort (1:43)
and 1 mile 2nd best estimated effort (7:45) ; 1k 2nd best estimated effort (4:39).
On the downhill I was concentrating on Short - Quick Stride's yet when I reviewed the data it says that's where my longest strides occurred ??? but my Cadence was higher - which is what I was concentrating on. Very confused.
As I peaked out a small squall passed through - just big enough to get me soaked to the skin and make for a clammy wet return run back home.
08/01 0.0 km – 150 km - 0 km – YTD 862.57 km
08/01 7.5 km – 142.5 km - 7.5 km – YTD 870.07 km
08/03 14.0 km – 128.5 km - 21.5 km – YTD 884.07 km
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The way I view my chunky calves is that they're really skinny, but because I'm short the muscles are compact......
I'll admit my thighs need work - there's too much non-muscle going on there - that's why I'm back in the gym doing squats.4 -
@PastorVincent you're totally rocking the memes.
@ Everybody: I've just speed-read the last 6 pages. You totally inspire me to do awesome things. This group has been so special to me since I started running nearly 2 years ago.
Today I did my longest run ever. 34 km in 3:48:09 moving time.
ETA: My PT friend recommended only doing 32 km, but I'd already done 32 km, plus I wanted to only have an extra 8 km to find on the big day (fear of double digits
), plus I did the Fibonacci number!
It was my last long, long run before my first marathon on August 27. I think I'm ready!
Hoping the 3 week taper and race-day energy will propel me towards sub 5 hours.15 -
All you ladies bemoaning your large calves: Stop that right now! Large calves are attractive. They mean you have a well-developed gastrocnemius, and you can run. This is a survival trait. You don't need to out-run the bear, you only need to out-run the fashion model with skinny calves.
I agree!
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JessicaMcB wrote: »All you ladies bemoaning your large calves: Stop that right now! Large calves are attractive. They mean you have a well-developed gastrocnemius, and you can run. This is a survival trait. You don't need to out-run the bear, you only need to out-run the fashion model with skinny calves.
Yes, surviving the zombie apocalypse is basically going to ride on calves and quads people- there's a reason Rick is always running
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@Irontri7 What did you and your foot decide about running, cross training and rest?
My husband has shin splints but has chosen to go back to his old shoe and continue running. So I guess it's not that bad, and I was hoping yours would still allow some training. And we love having you here. (I didn't run for 4-6 months and still stopped in to bother support and learn from the group.
I'm up early. No running today. Saturday and Sunday are longer runs and I don't want to start out on tired legs- nerve niggle anyway. I went to bed at 2030 and woke without being exausted.
DH turns it down to 65f/18c at night. Which would be great sleeping, but he takes all the blankets and I'm left with something 30 years old that's thin and has holes. And I think my fat cat is annoying at that time because she's cold and won't sleep. Or shes just a kitten! Oh I get it MFP...
I threatened to get sleeping bag last week. Think I'll just have to do that. DH already has 2-3 blankets if I add another, he might take it. Well he won't if it's the thin holy one. Good luck taking my sleeping bag.
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@Orphia Congrats on your longest run ever!! You are going to be so ready for your marathon. I can't wait to hear how it goes!1
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@Elise4270 sounds like DH needs to stop at the flower shop pretty soon.1
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cburke8909 wrote: »@Elise4270 sounds like DH needs to stop at the flower shop pretty soon. He wasn't being mean. My daughter use to tell me I had "man legs and to never wear a dress". Reminded me of Seinfelds man hands episode.
He's been told to not waste money on flowers someone to come clean, absolutely! 3 -
Did you see that RoadID has glitter bands for a limited time only? I think might get one for my wife.1
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8.3 very slow comfortable miles this am. My training only call for 10 as my long run tomorrow. Any clue as to the record for number of pages in a month. We are at 14, it's the 4th and the day just began.
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Not sure if I will run today as I have TWO races tomorrow... but they are both 5ks so not like they will be that hard. One is through a park with only double digit elevation, with is so extremely un heard of around here. Still would stink to pull an injury this close to two races
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