Green Smoothie Cleanse - Store bought smoothie recommendation
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I've noticed that the people who do these types of cleanses always say "My willpower sucks" or "I cant resist junk food" etc etc etc If you can stick to 3-5 + days of juicing you have more willpower than you think....23
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ttcbelieve wrote: »I tried committing. It did not work.
So what makes you think you can commit to a "cleanse"? And if you can, then you can commit to getting on track without a "cleanse".
Honestly I think its probably the convenience that will make me stick with it. The convenience will get me over the hump and back to measuring and making better choices. I have a fairly good idea how I got to this point and will make sure it does not happen again. I just need that extra help.
I normally don't recommend this approach for most people as its a recipe for making the same mistake over and over again. With me however it's ok. I'm a fairly disciplined person....normally.... I just need help this time. "I need to get back on the bike"3 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »the thing is once you get into the mindset to eat a certain way you need to stay in that mindset and to stay on track otherwise you will get off track. you have to want it bad enough to stick with it. I know for me I dont want to get back to being overweight,out of breath,out of shape and taking more meds than I am now. for me thats my motivation for sticking with the lifestyle Im following.if I fail I now to get right back on and go from there. I dont give up and then come back and start over and over. once you begin you need to know that you need to stay the course.
I agree. I suspect I got complacent. I was doing very good. Exercising regularly, still exercise regularly. had a balanced habit and then fell off track, I knew I was falling off track and kept going, thinking, its all good, i'll bounce back quickly. Suddenly I'm in a state where I noticed, Dang it...I can't get back on.
It's definitely a lesson I have learned. Just because its 5yrs and its been good does not mean it cant change.
I'm sure I will not fall off track again. I like the way I feel when I am in shape.....and the fear of having to post here again after all the feedback I have received today will ensure I stay on track for life :-)0 -
The most effective cleanse I ever did was salmonella. Takes the weight right off.12
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Christine_72 wrote: »I've noticed that the people who do these types of cleanses always say "My willpower sucks" or "I cant resist junk food" etc etc etc If you can stick to 3-5 + days of juicing you have more willpower than you think....
Probably...I'm about to find out. I'm sure I'll be miserable. If I come back here crying "I expect love and sympathy, regardless :-)
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Is it Friday on Mars, or something?9
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ttcbelieve wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »the thing is once you get into the mindset to eat a certain way you need to stay in that mindset and to stay on track otherwise you will get off track. you have to want it bad enough to stick with it. I know for me I dont want to get back to being overweight,out of breath,out of shape and taking more meds than I am now. for me thats my motivation for sticking with the lifestyle Im following.if I fail I now to get right back on and go from there. I dont give up and then come back and start over and over. once you begin you need to know that you need to stay the course.
I agree. I suspect I got complacent. I was doing very good. Exercising regularly, still exercise regularly. had a balanced habit and then fell off track, I knew I was falling off track and kept going, thinking, its all good, i'll bounce back quickly. Suddenly I'm in a state where I noticed, Dang it...I can't get back on.
It's definitely a lesson I have learned. Just because its 5yrs and its been good does not mean it cant change.
I'm sure I will not fall off track again. I like the way I feel when I am in shape.....and the fear of having to post here again after all the feedback I have received today will ensure I stay on track for life :-)
yeah I have been at it for 5 years too and sure it can change but for me it would have to be something devastating to where I couldnt work out anymore even though I can eat less to lose weight its hard for me,I seem to lose better when I work out. the older you get the harder it is to bounce back. I just turned 43 and things now arent as easy as they were 10+ years ago. I know all too well the struggle.0 -
ttcbelieve wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »What are your goals for this "cleanse"?
To get back on track with healthy eating and maintaining weight. I added 10lbs in the last 2 months. I can't seem to get the motivation or desire to stop eating junk. All I need is jumpstart and I have never tried a cleanse. I'm not looking to lose 10lbs with the cleanse. I just need it to jumpstart getting me back on track. Hope that makes sense
There is a difference between smoothies and juice. The purchased products seem to be juice.
If the goal is to eat a healthy diet, why not, you know, do that? Just consuming juice isn't really healthy. (I don't think just consuming smoothies is great either, but at least they will have all the fiber and you can add ingredients and contribute protein and fat and generally control the ingredients.)
Indeed, if the concern is that you have not been eating well and want to change that, the insistence on relying on some juices you don't prepare yourself doesn't seem likely to fix that or teach you anything.2 -
Then join us and do the veg challenge and see how you like that.ttcbelieve wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »I've noticed that the people who do these types of cleanses always say "My willpower sucks" or "I cant resist junk food" etc etc etc If you can stick to 3-5 + days of juicing you have more willpower than you think....
Probably...I'm about to find out. I'm sure I'll be miserable. If I come back here crying "I expect love and sympathy, regardless :-)
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kshama2001 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »I need to do this as a jump start. Why? Because if I go from eating high sodium foods or sugary foods and slowly ween in to healthier alternatives- I rarely stick to it. My mentality is : "I'll start it tomorrow."
When you purchase and invest into 3 days worth of quickly perishable juices - there's no tomorrow. It's literally you're doing this now without any excuse. Hungry? Increase water intake. Next thing you know - you've double or tripled the average water intake you normally have. Once the three days are complete- the likelihood of desiring the foods you were having daily is minimal.
That's why I like juicing. It's just a jumpstart to making a regimen stick.
It works for some people and it doesn't work for others.
You have posted this thread here and have posted a thread in the debate section about having tried the HCG diet.
I'm sensing a pattern here regarding trying unsustainable, gimmicky weight loss "hacks" and learning nothing lasting and yo-yo behavior.
Maybe I'm projecting, but that was my experience with weight loss. Always looking for the gimmick or trick and never really learning anything.
Until I gave up on gimmicks, jump starts, and fads.
You don't need things like this, but moreover, they are counterproductive to the main goal of lasting, sustainable to change that leads to lasting, sustainable weight loss that you maintain for good.
Weight loss like that is not "jump-started" with juice cleanses, it's started with learning how weight loss works, it's started with forming healthy habits, and it's started with getting rid of the idea that you can hack your way into getting rid of a few pounds fast to get yourself "on track".
Managing weight is a life-long commitment. You're never "off track".
People would be much better off if they "jumpstarted" and "cleansed" with the bowel-scouring amount of fiber you get when you do the 800g-of-veg-a-day challenge several of us have done!
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10521320/10-a-day-800g-veggie-fruit-challenge-participants-check-in/p1
I just do NOT get why people are so set on stripping out their fiber, whether it is eating ultra-processed foods on one hand, or doing juicing "cleanses" on the other hand. It makes zero nutritional sense and is completely irrational. If you eat enough fiber, you're not going to be doing much snackin'.
Stripping out healthy fiber is one of many reasons why I no longer juice. I do make fruit/veggie/protein smoothies almost every day, blending it all in my food processor. So filling!
I love smoothies too...although I have kind of gotten sick of them so haven't done them for a while. I have a bunch of collards and kale giving me accusatory glares in the garden so maybe I should start rotating them back in.3 -
Juice Cleanse is a pretty cut to the chase kickstart. You pay for it and you have 3 days to consume it or it goes bad. No if and /or butts.
ljmorgi - lmaooooo
Juicing can be done without any harmful side affects with you're taking the supplements you're not obtaining from the juices. Protein, fiber, B12, calcium, etc. Also needs to add up to the right amount of calories you require per day. The only negative is the sugar intake from the fruits.
It's not intended for long term weight loss. It's basically water weight. I'm using it to see if it causes a shift in my plateau. I'm already at 1,300 calories and quite honestly didn't want cut more calories like certain articles recommended. At day 4, it's back to 2 meals a day and 2 protein shakes. I've cut out a good chunk of carbs from my diet and increased protein. Didn't do the trick either.
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Juice Cleanse is a pretty cut to the chase kickstart. You pay for it and you have 3 days to consume it or it goes bad. No if and /or butts.
ljmorgi - lmaooooo
Juicing can be done without any harmful side affects with you're taking the supplements you're not obtaining from the juices. Protein, fiber, B12, calcium, etc. Also needs to add up to the right amount of calories you require per day. The only negative is the sugar intake from the fruits.
It's not intended for long term weight loss. It's basically water weight. I'm using it to see if it causes a shift in my plateau. I'm already at 1,300 calories and quite honestly didn't want cut more calories like certain articles recommended. At day 4, it's back to 2 meals a day and 2 protein shakes. I've cut out a good chunk of carbs from my diet and increased protein. Didn't do the trick either.
if you have been in a plateau for more than 6 weeks then you are eating more than you think. yes,its very easy to do. if you arent weighing food then its hard to know how much you are eating. simple and easy to figure it out.8 -
Juice Cleanse is a pretty cut to the chase kickstart. You pay for it and you have 3 days to consume it or it goes bad. No if and /or butts.
ljmorgi - lmaooooo
Juicing can be done without any harmful side affects with you're taking the supplements you're not obtaining from the juices. Protein, fiber, B12, calcium, etc. Also needs to add up to the right amount of calories you require per day. The only negative is the sugar intake from the fruits.
It's not intended for long term weight loss. It's basically water weight. I'm using it to see if it causes a shift in my plateau. I'm already at 1,300 calories and quite honestly didn't want cut more calories like certain articles recommended. At day 4, it's back to 2 meals a day and 2 protein shakes. I've cut out a good chunk of carbs from my diet and increased protein. Didn't do the trick either.
I completely fail to comprehend how temporarily losing some water weight for a few miserable days and then going back to what you were doing before that wasn't working will suddenly start to work.
Kinda mind-boggling.12 -
So according to you Snickerscharlie- what is the solution to my plateau? Should I decrease my calorie intake as many articles suggested? Should I increase my calories? Please do tell me what I need to do.
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So according to you Snickerscharlie- what is the solution to my plateau? Should I decrease my calorie intake as many articles suggested? Should I increase my calories? Please do tell me what I need to do.
The entire truth of this weight loss thing is that if you aren't losing weight, you are eating at maintenance. Most of the time, this is due to miscalculating the amount of calories you're eating, a.k.a you're eating more than you think you are.
If you want more specific details, please start your own thread so as not to derail this one. 10 -
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joseccastaneda wrote: »I jump started this week's diet with birthday cake and ice cream. Still managed to lose weight. I wonder if i can market that.
If you had a cake sandwich cleanse, you might be onto something...
I'm in the process of doing the Dairy Queen Cleanse.11 -
It's absolutely not meant to be long term. I just find it hilarious you all seem to presume you all eat healthy all the time. So all of you have never relapse with bad eating habits? You're all your appropriate BMI? Weight?
4 years, 4 months into successfully maintaining a 50lb loss and dramatically improved health markers-including a former pre-diabetic glucose number that now consistently comes back in the 80s, (I'm the only one in my family who's reversed the progression of prediabetes). Total cholesterol is in the 160s, triglycerides are in the 60s. Blood pressure is excellent and I'm considered very low risk for heart disease.
I'm also 38 years old, a mom of 3 full term children and my morning weigh-in today was 123lbs, which puts me at a bmi of 19.9.
And I've never done a juice 'cleanse' because it's utterly ridiculous.10 -
Go to the Success Stories page. Read how people successfully have lost weight....it's usually "I ate what I wanted and fit it into my plan." It's really that simple.7
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Olivegirl - I've maintained a 40lb weight loss for 11 years. It was 60 lbs up until March. Which is why I'm back MFP. I'm eating healthy and providing my body nutrients. It's just a 3 day juice fast to attempt to see if it either does or does not impact my plateau. I've asked trainers and read articles. Pretty much a simple, "Doesn't hurt to try as long as you take supplements." response.13
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You know what's a jump-start? Your very next individual decision. Which goes from doing nothing to doing something.
You make a good decision. Then another one. I don't see how juicing or cleansing or whatever related thing is going to push you in the correct direction. Because it's not related to other daily decisions you'll make as you go through the process of weight loss and worst of all doesn't make you one bit healthier - which is the entire point of losing weight in the first place.13 -
InkAndApples wrote: »But how does that make you stick with anything in the long term? I am genuinely baffled.
IKR? And not only that, but how does not giving your body everything it needs (ie protein, fat, fiber, etc) for 3 days help you start a healthy lifestyle??? It's like saying I'm really depressed and lonely so to jumpstart my effort to cheer up and meet people I'm going to stay in my home alone for 3 days and watch true crime and war documentaries
Interesting analogy. Reminded me of a housemate who planted herself in front of CNN for days after 9/11. It didn't go well.
I was wondering if there might be a penitent/self flagellating aspect to these VLC "cleanses" and found this: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/11/juice_cleanses_not_healthy_not_virtuous_just_expensive.html1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »InkAndApples wrote: »But how does that make you stick with anything in the long term? I am genuinely baffled.
IKR? And not only that, but how does not giving your body everything it needs (ie protein, fat, fiber, etc) for 3 days help you start a healthy lifestyle??? It's like saying I'm really depressed and lonely so to jumpstart my effort to cheer up and meet people I'm going to stay in my home alone for 3 days and watch true crime and war documentaries
Interesting analogy. Reminded me of a housemate who planted herself in front of CNN for days after 9/11. It didn't go well.
I was wondering if there might be a penitent/self flagellating aspect to these VLC "cleanses" and found this: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/11/juice_cleanses_not_healthy_not_virtuous_just_expensive.html
Mmmmm...nothin' better than Hairshirt in a Bottle.3 -
kshama2001 wrote: »InkAndApples wrote: »But how does that make you stick with anything in the long term? I am genuinely baffled.
IKR? And not only that, but how does not giving your body everything it needs (ie protein, fat, fiber, etc) for 3 days help you start a healthy lifestyle??? It's like saying I'm really depressed and lonely so to jumpstart my effort to cheer up and meet people I'm going to stay in my home alone for 3 days and watch true crime and war documentaries
Interesting analogy. Reminded me of a housemate who planted herself in front of CNN for days after 9/11. It didn't go well.
I was wondering if there might be a penitent/self flagellating aspect to these VLC "cleanses" and found this: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/11/juice_cleanses_not_healthy_not_virtuous_just_expensive.html
I think there totally is.
I also think it's a superstitious thing: if I go through this penance, I will be relieved of my love for foods I think I should not eat and magically only want to eat a healthy diet.
In reality, I think you chance your tastes and start eating a healthful diet mainly by developing tastes and habits that lead to that, by learning how to cook healthy meals even under stressful or time-crunch situations, to habitually eat meals that taste good to you that are also nutrient-dense and calorie-appropriate, so on. A juice cleanse takes less time, but doesn't do the work that is required.3 -
I feel like the "cleanse" defenders here are under the impression that you need to "eat healthy" to lose weight.
This is 100% not true. You could eat MacDonalds for every meal and still lose weight. Why? Because it's all about CALORIES, not healthy food. Stick to your calorie goal by accurately logging your intake with a scale, and you will see results, period. You can eat cake and icecream and junk food and MacDonald's. Just log it and make sure it fits in your calorie goal. Simple.
As for "cleanses" and "juicing" being healthy... you are literally drinking sugar water with vitamins. You're not getting any fiber, protein or fat. Your body needs fats and proteins to keep your organs, hair and skin healthy. Subsisting on juices alone is simply not a healthy thing to do, even if it's short-term.
If you enjoy juicing, that's great. Have some homemade juice once or twice a day and fill up the rest of your meals with other foods that you enjoy!8 -
There's also a view amongst those that talk about how much junk they're eating and how terrible it is that calls for not eating that stuff. When in reality, most convenience foods can still have decent nutrient profiles, just some are more calorie dense and therefore harder to fit into your day.
Living well isn't punishment. You can eat all the things as long as they're in the correct portions.8 -
If you have the willpower to drink nothing but juice for several days, you have it to change your eating habits. You simply don't want to and think that the juice will somehow magically kill all your cravings, kick you in the butt, and put you on the right path.
I eat Halo Top ice cream every night and I'm losing weight. You don't have to deprive yourself of food you want to eat, whether it's ice cream or chocolate or wine. You just have to make it all fit into a calorie deficit. It's basic math, not rocket science.4 -
ttcbelieve wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »It's absolutely not meant to be long term. I just find it hilarious you all seem to presume you all eat healthy all the time. So all of you have never relapse with bad eating habits? You're all your appropriate BMI? Weight?
According to Cronometer, I consistently meet my nutritional needs and my blood work (done annually) is awesome. The food I eat tastes great and makes me feel good.
My BMI is 19 and I'm at my goal weight. I've been maintaining for almost two years now.
So does that make my opinions more valid?
Naaaa....Not really. I maintained for 3yrs
So how long would I have to maintain for my opinion about juicing to be valid?10 -
Olivegirl - I've maintained a 40lb weight loss for 11 years. It was 60 lbs up until March. Which is why I'm back MFP. I'm eating healthy and providing my body nutrients. It's just a 3 day juice fast to attempt to see if it either does or does not impact my plateau. I've asked trainers and read articles. Pretty much a simple, "Doesn't hurt to try as long as you take supplements." response.
I genuinely don't understand why you'd knowing choose something that you KNOW is nutrient deficient enough that you need to take supplements, too.7
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