Green Smoothie Cleanse - Store bought smoothie recommendation
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Olivegirl - I've maintained a 40lb weight loss for 11 years. It was 60 lbs up until March. Which is why I'm back MFP. I'm eating healthy and providing my body nutrients. It's just a 3 day juice fast to attempt to see if it either does or does not impact my plateau. I've asked trainers and read articles. Pretty much a simple, "Doesn't hurt to try as long as you take supplements." response.13
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You know what's a jump-start? Your very next individual decision. Which goes from doing nothing to doing something.
You make a good decision. Then another one. I don't see how juicing or cleansing or whatever related thing is going to push you in the correct direction. Because it's not related to other daily decisions you'll make as you go through the process of weight loss and worst of all doesn't make you one bit healthier - which is the entire point of losing weight in the first place.13 -
InkAndApples wrote: »But how does that make you stick with anything in the long term? I am genuinely baffled.
IKR? And not only that, but how does not giving your body everything it needs (ie protein, fat, fiber, etc) for 3 days help you start a healthy lifestyle??? It's like saying I'm really depressed and lonely so to jumpstart my effort to cheer up and meet people I'm going to stay in my home alone for 3 days and watch true crime and war documentaries
Interesting analogy. Reminded me of a housemate who planted herself in front of CNN for days after 9/11. It didn't go well.
I was wondering if there might be a penitent/self flagellating aspect to these VLC "cleanses" and found this: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/11/juice_cleanses_not_healthy_not_virtuous_just_expensive.html1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »InkAndApples wrote: »But how does that make you stick with anything in the long term? I am genuinely baffled.
IKR? And not only that, but how does not giving your body everything it needs (ie protein, fat, fiber, etc) for 3 days help you start a healthy lifestyle??? It's like saying I'm really depressed and lonely so to jumpstart my effort to cheer up and meet people I'm going to stay in my home alone for 3 days and watch true crime and war documentaries
Interesting analogy. Reminded me of a housemate who planted herself in front of CNN for days after 9/11. It didn't go well.
I was wondering if there might be a penitent/self flagellating aspect to these VLC "cleanses" and found this: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/11/juice_cleanses_not_healthy_not_virtuous_just_expensive.html
Mmmmm...nothin' better than Hairshirt in a Bottle.3 -
kshama2001 wrote: »InkAndApples wrote: »But how does that make you stick with anything in the long term? I am genuinely baffled.
IKR? And not only that, but how does not giving your body everything it needs (ie protein, fat, fiber, etc) for 3 days help you start a healthy lifestyle??? It's like saying I'm really depressed and lonely so to jumpstart my effort to cheer up and meet people I'm going to stay in my home alone for 3 days and watch true crime and war documentaries
Interesting analogy. Reminded me of a housemate who planted herself in front of CNN for days after 9/11. It didn't go well.
I was wondering if there might be a penitent/self flagellating aspect to these VLC "cleanses" and found this: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/11/juice_cleanses_not_healthy_not_virtuous_just_expensive.html
I think there totally is.
I also think it's a superstitious thing: if I go through this penance, I will be relieved of my love for foods I think I should not eat and magically only want to eat a healthy diet.
In reality, I think you chance your tastes and start eating a healthful diet mainly by developing tastes and habits that lead to that, by learning how to cook healthy meals even under stressful or time-crunch situations, to habitually eat meals that taste good to you that are also nutrient-dense and calorie-appropriate, so on. A juice cleanse takes less time, but doesn't do the work that is required.3 -
I feel like the "cleanse" defenders here are under the impression that you need to "eat healthy" to lose weight.
This is 100% not true. You could eat MacDonalds for every meal and still lose weight. Why? Because it's all about CALORIES, not healthy food. Stick to your calorie goal by accurately logging your intake with a scale, and you will see results, period. You can eat cake and icecream and junk food and MacDonald's. Just log it and make sure it fits in your calorie goal. Simple.
As for "cleanses" and "juicing" being healthy... you are literally drinking sugar water with vitamins. You're not getting any fiber, protein or fat. Your body needs fats and proteins to keep your organs, hair and skin healthy. Subsisting on juices alone is simply not a healthy thing to do, even if it's short-term.
If you enjoy juicing, that's great. Have some homemade juice once or twice a day and fill up the rest of your meals with other foods that you enjoy!8 -
There's also a view amongst those that talk about how much junk they're eating and how terrible it is that calls for not eating that stuff. When in reality, most convenience foods can still have decent nutrient profiles, just some are more calorie dense and therefore harder to fit into your day.
Living well isn't punishment. You can eat all the things as long as they're in the correct portions.8 -
If you have the willpower to drink nothing but juice for several days, you have it to change your eating habits. You simply don't want to and think that the juice will somehow magically kill all your cravings, kick you in the butt, and put you on the right path.
I eat Halo Top ice cream every night and I'm losing weight. You don't have to deprive yourself of food you want to eat, whether it's ice cream or chocolate or wine. You just have to make it all fit into a calorie deficit. It's basic math, not rocket science.4 -
ttcbelieve wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »It's absolutely not meant to be long term. I just find it hilarious you all seem to presume you all eat healthy all the time. So all of you have never relapse with bad eating habits? You're all your appropriate BMI? Weight?
According to Cronometer, I consistently meet my nutritional needs and my blood work (done annually) is awesome. The food I eat tastes great and makes me feel good.
My BMI is 19 and I'm at my goal weight. I've been maintaining for almost two years now.
So does that make my opinions more valid?
Naaaa....Not really. I maintained for 3yrs
So how long would I have to maintain for my opinion about juicing to be valid?10 -
Olivegirl - I've maintained a 40lb weight loss for 11 years. It was 60 lbs up until March. Which is why I'm back MFP. I'm eating healthy and providing my body nutrients. It's just a 3 day juice fast to attempt to see if it either does or does not impact my plateau. I've asked trainers and read articles. Pretty much a simple, "Doesn't hurt to try as long as you take supplements." response.
I genuinely don't understand why you'd knowing choose something that you KNOW is nutrient deficient enough that you need to take supplements, too.7 -
Olivegirl - I've maintained a 40lb weight loss for 11 years. It was 60 lbs up until March. Which is why I'm back MFP. I'm eating healthy and providing my body nutrients. It's just a 3 day juice fast to attempt to see if it either does or does not impact my plateau. I've asked trainers and read articles. Pretty much a simple, "Doesn't hurt to try as long as you take supplements." response.
I genuinely don't understand why you'd knowing choose something that you KNOW is nutrient deficient enough that you need to take supplements, too.
I honestly think that some people have such an awful relationship with food that they think doing something like a cleanse makes them badass or "serious about it this time." Nutritional concerns aside, I just find it unnecessarily punitive and incredibly misguided.19 -
It is clear to me that people who listen to the facts and do come back to reply (good on you for that, OP) are in need of a psychological/emotional reset more than anything, and maybe the juice fast will do that if not have actual physical benefits. It's like cleaning your office before you get to work, or whatever. There's nothing actually stopping you from beginning, but a little mental clear down of the decks, a little procrastination to gird one's loins, so to speak. Nothing wrong with that, but let's call it what it is.8
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I gave up reading on page 4 just wanted to say to all the familiar faces i see on here constantly, From the start of my loss (105 pounds in 14 months) Who whooped my dumb *kitten* with logic, And even those iv seen come in after me with open minds and watched learn, Who go on to take their time to teach others. The ones who have succeeded and fight the woo fight daily
Love you guys, Keep being great
And i have a green smoothie daily....Yummy and fiber/fat/protein dense. Juice is ...juice. Stick that stuff in a juice box im betting you wouldnt be nearly as conned. Fancy packaging and marketing, Like seriously if you insist on juices why not just make 1-2 green smoothies a day to replace small meals along with your other food, Keep your fiber and nutrients and sanity.
Or keep treating your body like a big company trash can and pay them for the "privilege"
Thats your choice. But i fail to see why your so against taking the advice of so many of us who have SUCCESSFULLY lost so much and keep it off and have already sorted through all the woo and broscience. We lived it and came out the other end smiling healthy and knowledgeable. With money left over for our sexy new outfits
-high fives to all the BAMF's up in here- Can't win em all
heres hoping OP and those other few had a change of heart in last 2 pages 16 -
JaydedMiss wrote: »I gave up reading on page 4 just wanted to say to all the familiar faces i see on here constantly,
So that's what you look like from the neck up
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Tacklewasher wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »I gave up reading on page 4 just wanted to say to all the familiar faces i see on here constantly,
So that's what you look like from the neck up
iv always had face pics up you big boob. i miss you1 -
JaydedMiss wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »I gave up reading on page 4 just wanted to say to all the familiar faces i see on here constantly,
So that's what you look like from the neck up
iv always had face pics up you big boob. i miss you
Yeah, I just look at the pictures in threads and try not to stalk you youngins too much. Feel creepy some times.....2 -
It's absolutely not meant to be long term. I just find it hilarious you all seem to presume you all eat healthy all the time. So all of you have never relapse with bad eating habits? You're all your appropriate BMI? Weight?
I relapsed yesterday when I had cheesecake for lunch. Actually that just fit into my calories for the day. You dont have to eat healthy to lose weight. You dont need to make losing weight miserable.6 -
@ttcbelieve, I had a "green smoothie" for breakfast this morning. I have no idea if it meets the criteria for your source to be a 'detox cleansing green smoothie'.
Ingredients today: 4.4 oz kefir (I've seen Lifeway Kefir at WalMart, but ferment my own), 1 oz hulled hemp, 1 oz frozen berries, 30 g powdered peanut, 12 g LIV Fit Superfood Blend, [ 3 g creatine, not necessary], 60 g kale, 84 g frozen banana, 9.3 oz ice. Blend 3 minutes and it's both green and smooth. I like it and have it often.
Any frozen banana will do. I usually try to use only 4.0 oz kefir. Any green vegetable will do, but the bitter kale serves a purpose in the flavor I get and it will taste differently if you change the source of chlorophyll.0 -
laurenebargar wrote: »It's absolutely not meant to be long term. I just find it hilarious you all seem to presume you all eat healthy all the time. So all of you have never relapse with bad eating habits? You're all your appropriate BMI? Weight?
I relapsed yesterday when I had cheesecake for lunch. Actually that just fit into my calories for the day. You dont have to eat healthy to lose weight. You dont need to make losing weight miserable.
Exactly. When you find the balance, you don't have to worry about "relapsing." You're just . . . eating and not making things more than what they are.6 -
laurenebargar wrote: »It's absolutely not meant to be long term. I just find it hilarious you all seem to presume you all eat healthy all the time. So all of you have never relapse with bad eating habits? You're all your appropriate BMI? Weight?
I relapsed yesterday when I had cheesecake for lunch. Actually that just fit into my calories for the day. You dont have to eat healthy to lose weight. You dont need to make losing weight miserable.
I had Dairy Queen last night and was still in a deficit.5
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