September 2017 Running Challenge

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  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    JessicaMcB wrote: »
    @JessicaMcB Is your ultra 80 km? And you did a 70 in training! Wow.

    @Orphia yes Whistler is only 50 miles/80k, next year is when I'll be hitting hard at 100k/120k distances and *potentially* will start work on building to a 100 miler. I am in the minority in that I train to 100% of race distance. It works well for me and I have a fair amount of runner friends who only train to 65%-70% of race distance and have a tendency to flame out and DNF which I would like to avoid (because you know, live Churchill and never surrender lol). So 80k next Saturday it is :D

    @JessicaMcB I love it. I ran 4 half marathons before my first HM event. But this is in a league far above!
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    edited September 2017
    @_nikkiwolf_ So sorry about your fall and subsequent knee injury! Glad it's OK to run on at this stage.

    @cburke8909 I may have missed you explaining, but are you going to carb-load and fuel with carbs for your marathon? I've been reading a lot about how LCHF impedes race performance.
  • cburke8909
    cburke8909 Posts: 990 Member
    7.1 at 8:40 pace tempo run.

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  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    @juliet3455 people that can pace baffle me. I doubt I could hold a consistent for more than a single stride. :smile:
  • 5512bf
    5512bf Posts: 389 Member
    September Goal - 180 Miles

    9/1/17 - 4.07 Easy
    9/3/17 - 8.43 Easy - 38.44 Week
    9/4/17 - 6.60 Tempo
    9/5/17 - 7.07 Easy
    9/6/17 - 7.05 Easy
    9/7/17 - 5.03 Easy
    9/8/17 - 7.08 Easy
    9/10/17 12.03 Easy - 44.87 Weeks
    9/11/17 - 4.12 - recovery
    Total 61.48 of 180 Miles

    Easy recovery today. I had a 21k step Sat without a single second of running, then almost 26k yesterday so the legs were a bit heavy this morning at 4:15 am. The easy effort showed with HR of only 125, which is 20 bpm slower than the top of z2 / start of z3. With the added miles I'm noticing I'm a bit more tired at night so early morning runs are kinda sucking.

    @PastorVincent - I'm not typically a treadmill runner. I'll do some interval stuff from time to time but i generally opt for the indoor track when running inside. During winters in the past I've done the majority of my running on one here locally that is a 6 lap/mile track. I'd bet I've done upwards of 35-40 miles a week indoors with at least once running a 19 mile long run. Running outside in the dead of winter in Kansas sucks. We might not have the bitter cold temps of some up North, but 10-20 degree mornings with a 30MPH North wind is absolutely brutal. We rarely have school called off for snow, but at least 2-3 times a year they'll call it off based on the wind chill getting down to -15 to as bad as -30 a couple time a few years ago. I don't ever recall getting a day off school for that weather but nowadays it's not uncommon.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    5512bf wrote: »
    @PastorVincent - I'm not typically a treadmill runner. I'll do some interval stuff from time to time but i generally opt for the indoor track when running inside. During winters in the past I've done the majority of my running on one here locally that is a 6 lap/mile track. I'd bet I've done upwards of 35-40 miles a week indoors with at least once running a 19 mile long run. Running outside in the dead of winter in Kansas sucks. We might not have the bitter cold temps of some up North, but 10-20 degree mornings with a 30MPH North wind is absolutely brutal. We rarely have school called off for snow, but at least 2-3 times a year they'll call it off based on the wind chill getting down to -15 to as bad as -30 a couple time a few years ago. I don't ever recall getting a day off school for that weather but nowadays it's not uncommon.

    I do all I can to avoid the dreadmill, but our indoor track is something like 18 laps to a mile. You essentially running in a tight circle with no straight aways. When it is too cold to run out side (I am in Pittsburgh), I try to make myself do an hour on the dreadmill so that I get something in. I usually set the incline to 5% so I can pretend I did an hour of hill work.

    My Marathon is first Sunday in May so I pretty much the same winter training problem as you do.
  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
    edited September 2017
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    @PastorVincent if I wouldn't have skipped my run today, I'd be ahead of you...LOL... With a scheduled rest day tomorrow, I'll have to start working it on Tuesday.

    Perhaps! But @_Nikkiwolf_ is still crushing us when you add total miles into the comparison. I am starting to think she is scaling vertical walls during her runs. :)

    Lol. Yeah. She has real mountains near her. I only have some ski hills. Nothing in comparison to her. You're getting some great elevation foe a road runner. My puny 700 yesterday annoys me. For a 20 mile run, I would have gotten closer to 3k on trail.... ugh... roads
    @MNLittleFinn @PastorVincent I like mountains, but last week was a bit extreme. Imagine if I hadn't hurt my knee last week - the run the others from my group did on Friday had more than 2000m (6500 feet) of elevation, on top of what we did on Monday and Tuesday B)
    On my own, I usually don't run the really steep trails like that; I prefer slopes that are gentle enough that I can keep running for an hour or two. The mountain trails we did last week had me walking a fair amount of the time. It was the first time I used trekking poles, but they didn't really help that much.
    And if you want to see some really nice elevation-per-mile routes: one of the girls from my group didn't join when we went Canyoning on Wednesday, she ran this trail instead. The nice thing is you don't have to run downhill in the end, you can take the cable car. But still!

  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @_nikkiwolf_ That climb looks nasty. I'd love to try it sometime.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    @_nikkiwolf_ That climb looks nasty. I'd love to try it sometime.

    There really is something wrong with us. :lol:

    @_nikkiwolf_ 27% grade! :open_mouth: Downhill would be more of a controlled fall I think!
  • ariceroni
    ariceroni Posts: 422 Member
    edited September 2017
    September Running
    09/01: Off, rest day
    09/02: 4.02 mile easy run + 30 min biking
    09/03: 20.05 mile long run
    09/04: 60 min biking + strength training
    09/05: 5.04 mile easy run + 15 min elliptical
    09/06: 8.03 miles- 7 mile progression, 1 mile cool down
    09/07: 5.40 mile easy run + 15 min elliptical
    09/08: 3.56 mile easy run
    09/09: 75 min biking
    09/10: 13.17 mile long run- 3@MP/1E/2@HMP/1E/2@HMP/1E/3@MP
    Total: 59.27 miles

    Notes:
    Had a really great long run yesterday! It was a cutback week and I was really looking forward to *only* having 13 miles to run haha. Of course when I mentioned that to my lab partner, he looked at me like I had three heads. Guess he needs to spend more time around runners! Since it was a shorter long run and I was short on time too (had to leave the house at 10:30 am to visit my boyfriend's family for the day, which meant getting in my miles, eating, and showering before then), I decided to make it a bit of a workout with some miles at marathon pace and half marathon pace: first 3 miles at MP (8:51, 8:49, 8:51), 1 easy, 2 at HMP (7:58, 7:57), 1 easy, another 2 at HMP (7:55, 7:55), 1 easy, and the final 3 at MP (8:47, 8:47, 8:49). I'm targeting a 3:55 marathon (hoping for sub-4, so I figure 3:55 gives me a little margin for running poor tangents, walking through water stations as needed, and a potty break if necessary), so the "marathon pace" sections of this run were a little too fast. I have a hard time staying steady at marathon pace, I have a tendency to speed up to ~8:40 if I'm not paying attention. Anyways, my garmin informed me that this was my fastest half marathon time post-stress fracture (1:54:31). Given how easy/controlled this run felt, I'm thinking that going sub 1:45 in my upcoming November HM is quite doable, assuming I make it through the Chicago Marathon un-injured, and am able to recover fairly quickly.

    Easy run, cross-training, and strength training are on the plan for today. This is the last week before I start tapering, so I just keep reminding myself that I only have to make it through one more week and then it only gets easier from there :weary:

    Those of you in FL or or with family there are in my thoughts! I hope all is well. I heard from my family this morning. There was no damage to the house, just a lot of branches and one downed tree in the front yard. They have been without power since yesterday around noon, but still have running water and plenty of provisions to last until power is restored. It sounds like a last minute turn of the storm kept Tampa Bay from getting hit as hard as expected, and they are very grateful for that. Hope others have been as fortunate too.



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    Upcoming Races:
    - Chicago Marathon, 10/08/17
    - Space Coast Half Marathon, 11/26/17
    - Excalibur 10 Miler, 03/18/18
  • girlinahat
    girlinahat Posts: 2,956 Member
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    @_nikkiwolf_ That climb looks nasty. I'd love to try it sometime.

    There really is something wrong with us. :lol:

    @_nikkiwolf_ 27% grade! :open_mouth: Downhill would be more of a controlled fall I think!

    I can heartily recommend reading the book 'Feet in the clouds' by Richard Askwith. It's pretty much a history of fell running in Britain interlaced with the author running his own challenges. Most of the 'famous' (not remotely famous outside the fells) runners are basically sheep farmers, who having spent their day out in the fields, go for ridiculous runs up hills and downhill at reckless speeds. Then they go back to their basic huts and never tell anyone about it. These guys are amazing. Fell running here doesn't have set routes - the idea is to get up and down the hillside (occasional mountain, we don't have many of them) as quickly as possible.

    Just reading it made me worry i was going to break my neck.

  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    I'm falling behind. Asthma and allergy issues all weekend. I'm really tired and have a super busy day today. So probably won't be back in the game until tomorrow. I need to step it up :-p
  • skippygirlsmom
    skippygirlsmom Posts: 4,433 Member
    @ariceroni my brother and aunt and uncle are in Spring Hill just North of Tampa. My brother’s place is about 2 miles as the crow flies from the water. My Aunt and Uncle a few miles more inland. My brother’s gated community had mandatory evacuation so he’s with the Aunt/Uncle. They had no damage but no electric still so they waiting to winds to die down until the head to my brother’s. He lives right on a lake, like 20 yards from the water edge so hopefully there is no issue.
  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
    ariceroni wrote: »
    Since it was a shorter long run and I was short on time too (had to leave the house at 10:30 am to visit my boyfriend's family for the day, which meant getting in my miles, eating, and showering before then), I decided to make it a bit of a workout with some miles at marathon pace and half marathon pace: first 3 miles at MP (8:51, 8:49, 8:51), 1 easy, 2 at HMP (7:58, 7:57), 1 easy, another 2 at HMP (7:55, 7:55), 1 easy, and the final 3 at MP (8:47, 8:47, 8:49).

    @ariceroni Are you following the Strava marathon plan ending 10/8 and/or a McMillan plan? Strava told me to do this for my long run this weekend, and they base their plans on McM, but I was planning to do 16 w/ hills instead with my group. I loved the look of the long workout though. Looks like you killed it!
  • AmyOutOfControl
    AmyOutOfControl Posts: 1,425 Member
    9/1 = 5.5 miles
    9/2 = Rest Day
    9/3 = 16.5 miles (run/walk intervals)
    9/4 = 8.5 miles and a Hatha yoga class
    9/5 = Camp Gladiator class
    9/6 = 6 miles and 45 minutes strength training
    9/7 = 10.5 miles
    9/8 = 7 miles
    9/9 = rest day
    9/10 = 13.5 miles (run/walk intervals with running group)
    9/11 = 8 easy miles and 30 minutes strength training

    I tried something new on my run this morning -- listening to an audiobook. It did not go well. I ran slower than average and I kept getting distracted and loosing track of the story. I don't think I am an audiobook person. I am going to try the podcast thing next. Does anyone listen to a good one?

    Also, I am officially starting a countdown until my long 4 day weekend away with my husband. Today is day 8 out of 11 days working straight without a day off. 3 more days after today......

    (September miles) 75.5/175 (September goal miles)

    Upcoming Races:
    10/28 = Hill Country Halloween Half Marathon
    12/10 = BCS Marathon
    1/6/18 = River Road Run Half Marathon
  • cburke8909
    cburke8909 Posts: 990 Member
    @Orphia yes, my marathon plan includes a carb load and fueling during the race. The carb load would occur the week before the race and the race offers GU at certain points during the race. I will bring an extra 1 or 2 packets of GU in addition to the ones passed out during the race. I have run fasted and unfasted long runs at this point and my performance is definitely improved by the process. I did a crab loading for my half-marathon and I could tell the difference when I ran.
    On this mornings run, I was able to keep an 8:40 pace while having a heart rate on the low side of zone 3. It felt ok and I could see me keeping this pace for the 26.2 miles with some adjustment as the longevity of the race wore down on me. That would give me a 3hour 48 minute marathon.(I would be ecstatic with that result.)
  • ariceroni
    ariceroni Posts: 422 Member
    edited September 2017
    kristinegift wrote: »
    ariceroni wrote: »
    Since it was a shorter long run and I was short on time too (had to leave the house at 10:30 am to visit my boyfriend's family for the day, which meant getting in my miles, eating, and showering before then), I decided to make it a bit of a workout with some miles at marathon pace and half marathon pace: first 3 miles at MP (8:51, 8:49, 8:51), 1 easy, 2 at HMP (7:58, 7:57), 1 easy, another 2 at HMP (7:55, 7:55), 1 easy, and the final 3 at MP (8:47, 8:47, 8:49).

    @ariceroni Are you following the Strava marathon plan ending 10/8 and/or a McMillan plan? Strava told me to do this for my long run this weekend, and they base their plans on McM, but I was planning to do 16 w/ hills instead with my group. I loved the look of the long workout though. Looks like you killed it!

    @kristinegift Thanks! To be honest I'm not really following a training plan exactly, it's more of a "make it up as I go along" thing :sweat_smile: I loosely based things off the HH intermediate 1, at least as far as the general structure (3 easy/short runs, 1 medium long, 1 long) and the long run progression. I based my midweek workouts (kind of) from his Advanced 1 plan, except with progression runs instead of tempo runs, and then whatever I feel like (usually 400s or mile repeats) instead of hill repeats. I've thrown a few long run workouts into the mix (mainly pick ups or some MP miles near the end) too. As far as this most recent one, I just thought it sounded like a good combo tbh, nice and symmetric and some miles at MP on fatigued legs. So funny that it is the same as Strava/McMillan! :lol: It's very possible I saw this somewhere and subconsciously remembered it. It was a very fun long workout though! Just enough fast miles to tire out the legs a bit, but not so hard that I couldn't finish the workout strong. I would definitely recommend it sometime if you get the chance!
  • karllundy
    karllundy Posts: 1,490 Member
    9/1 - Rest Day.
    9/2 - 8.33 mile group run
    9/3 - 4 miles.
    9/4 - 5.94 mile group track/speed work...ouch
    9/5 - Rest Day. Still ouch.
    9/6 - 4.1 mile group hill repeats. Thought it would help soreness...it did not. As the leader says "You don't have to like it, just like what it does for you."
    9/7 - 4.63 miles.
    9/8 - 4.5 miles
    9/9 - 9 mile group run.
    9/10 - Rest day...way too much church, family stuff and kids' activities today.
    9/11 - 4.5 miles.

    45/80 miles
  • ariceroni
    ariceroni Posts: 422 Member
    edited September 2017
    skippygirlsmom wrote: »
    @ariceroni my brother and aunt and uncle are in Spring Hill just North of Tampa. My brother’s place is about 2 miles as the crow flies from the water. My Aunt and Uncle a few miles more inland. My brother’s gated community had mandatory evacuation so he’s with the Aunt/Uncle. They had no damage but no electric still so they waiting to winds to die down until the head to my brother’s. He lives right on a lake, like 20 yards from the water edge so hopefully there is no issue.

    @skippygirlsmom Glad to hear there was no major damage and that they are safe and sound! Hopefully your brother's house didn't get any water damage. My grandmother lives across the street from the bay, so she evacuated to my parent's house. No word yet on her house either, sounds like a similar situation to your brother.
  • bride001
    bride001 Posts: 153 Member
    Sorry I am late joining the party this month, but we had a family crisis on August 31st and we are just getting back to normal.

    This week starts Week 1 training of half marathon in early December, so I am setting my goal to run according to training plan: 72 miles.

    09/11/2017 - 4.0 miles

    4/72 miles
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    bride001 wrote: »
    Sorry I am late joining the party this month, but we had a family crisis on August 31st and we are just getting back to normal.

    This week starts Week 1 training of half marathon in early December, so I am setting my goal to run according to training plan: 72 miles.

    09/11/2017 - 4.0 miles

    4/72 miles

    Sorry to hear about the crisis, but welcome to the group!
  • zdyb23456
    zdyb23456 Posts: 1,706 Member
    9/1 13.1 miles! 2h:09m:49s
    9/2 3.1mi 31m:56s
    9/3 rest
    9/4 4.38mi 41m:07s
    9/5 6mi 57m:38s
    9/6 4mi 39m:50s
    9/7 7mi 69m:59s
    9/8 4mi 38m:49s
    9/9 9mi 1h:26m:35s
    9/10 rest
    9/11 5.2mi 53m:20s

    Intervals on the treadmill today. Did a half mile warm up and cool down, 1 mi repeats at race pace with 90 second rests. Not going to lie, the last mile felt hard!
  • seanevan10
    seanevan10 Posts: 385 Member
    I walked in the American Heart Association Heart Walk in Dallas on Saturday. The walk itself was only 3.5 miles but between parking and entertaining the boys, we put in over 5 miles. Good times!

    I went for a run yesterday morning and was doing great on time and heart rate and then I stepped off the sidewalk into a hole. I don't think I twisted anything so I walked for a bit and then ran another mile. I iced when I got home, but my other calf is sore today. I think I might have compensated/limped along. I am supposed to lift today...why is that such a hard thing to do?
  • rodmelching
    rodmelching Posts: 67 Member

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    Oh boy . . . already behind . . . lol

    Got to love September weather, love the cool crisp air on the early am workouts. Happy running everyone!
  • ROBOTFOOD
    ROBOTFOOD Posts: 5,527 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    @_nikkiwolf_ That climb looks nasty. I'd love to try it sometime.
    FUN! CR: 38:27 VAM: 1536
    Holy shizznit


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