October 2017 Running Challenge
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PastorVincent wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »OSUbuckeye906 wrote: »@PastorVincent Interesting dew point chart. I knew the dew point was high yesterday, but I just checked what the actual was and it was 65-67 the whole race. No wonder everybody was miserable.
If you want the longer explanation: https://www.runnersworld.com/race-training/training-in-the-heat
Stumbled on that years ago, and so far, in my experience, it has proven correct.
@PastorVincent
"It's generally recognized that for every 10-degree increase in air temperature above 55 degrees, there's a 1.5 percent to 3 percent increase in average finishing time for a marathon. (Translation: An extra 3 to 6 minutes for a 3:30 marathon with every 10-degree increase.) "
Oh, really? What's that in 99% of the world's measurements?
There are countries that use metric... and then there are world leaders who put a man on the moon, have visited every major planet in the solar system, and land rockets on moving platforms at sea, not to mention populating mars with robots...
...and they still refuse to use a more reasonable system of measurement.
Frankly, wish we would change. Metric is much easier! But I do not see that happening in my lifetime. Ah well.
Unless you work in a lab. Everything is metric.
Most places everything is... a mixture. I need both sets of wrenches to work on my truck for example. Worst of both worlds!
Lol! I feel ya there! You can never find the set you need. Allen screws are the worst!0 -
I'm English and grew up with imperial measurements. We then made the switch to metric and decimal which is what I'm familiar with (have to say Celsius v Fahrenheit still throws me), and then I moved to the US and had to start all over again with imperial.
Depending on how old they are, my cook-books either have imperial measures only or both imperial and metric, which is no good when I'm following a US recipe where everything is in cups. I had to go out and buy a set of cups.
I do have to smile every time I'm racing when the race is advertised as a 5k or 10k, but it has mile markers.2 -
BruinsGal_91 wrote: »I'm English and grew up with imperial measurements. We then made the switch to metric and decimal which is what I'm familiar with (have to say Celsius v Fahrenheit still throws me), and then I moved to the US and had to start all over again with imperial.
Depending on how old they are, my cook-books either have imperial measures only or both imperial and metric, which is no good when I'm following a US recipe where everything is in cups. I had to go out and buy a set of cups.
I do have to smile every time I'm racing when the race is advertised as a 5k or 10k, but it has mile markers.
I love how we have...
5k, 10k, 15k, 10 miles, 13 miles, 30k, 26.2 miles, 50k...
It's pretty humorous that we can not pick a system to name races
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PastorVincent wrote: »BruinsGal_91 wrote: »I'm English and grew up with imperial measurements. We then made the switch to metric and decimal which is what I'm familiar with (have to say Celsius v Fahrenheit still throws me), and then I moved to the US and had to start all over again with imperial.
Depending on how old they are, my cook-books either have imperial measures only or both imperial and metric, which is no good when I'm following a US recipe where everything is in cups. I had to go out and buy a set of cups.
I do have to smile every time I'm racing when the race is advertised as a 5k or 10k, but it has mile markers.
I love how we have...
5k, 10k, 15k, 10 miles, 13 miles, 30k, 26.2 miles, 50k...
It's pretty humorous that we can not pick a system to name races
Notice how 2/3 that are in miles are related to some little jog Phidippides did? I know plenty of folks who call it in kilometers, My theory is that's why we call the marathon ad half by name, the distances are non-standard no matter what system.......0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »OSUbuckeye906 wrote: »@PastorVincent Interesting dew point chart. I knew the dew point was high yesterday, but I just checked what the actual was and it was 65-67 the whole race. No wonder everybody was miserable.
If you want the longer explanation: https://www.runnersworld.com/race-training/training-in-the-heat
Stumbled on that years ago, and so far, in my experience, it has proven correct.
@PastorVincent
"It's generally recognized that for every 10-degree increase in air temperature above 55 degrees, there's a 1.5 percent to 3 percent increase in average finishing time for a marathon. (Translation: An extra 3 to 6 minutes for a 3:30 marathon with every 10-degree increase.) "
Oh, really? What's that in 99% of the world's measurements?
There are countries that use metric... and then there are world leaders who put a man on the moon, have visited every major planet in the solar system, and land rockets on moving platforms at sea, not to mention populating mars with robots...
...and they still refuse to use a more reasonable system of measurement.
Frankly, wish we would change. Metric is much easier! But I do not see that happening in my lifetime. Ah well.
Unless you work in a lab. Everything is metric.
Most places everything is... a mixture. I need both sets of wrenches to work on my truck for example. Worst of both worlds!
Haha this reminds me- about a year back, I went to Argonne National Lab to help my collaborators with some x-ray scattering experiments. Some of the ANL equipment had been manufactured overseas and you needed the metric wrenches to adjust, while the rest used imperial. The wrenches were all color-coded and they had two separate tool-boxes to keep them in, but that didn't make it any less of a pain in the *kitten* to figure out which one you needed for a certain adjustment! It drove me crazy.... You would think a national lab of all places would have their *kitten* together
@midwesterner85 microns are metric, shorthand for micrometers. I've mainly heard biologists use the term, whereas the physicists tend to stick to micrometers. As far as I know there's no real equivalent (probably because anyone who uses it in their daily life is a scientist/engineer and therefore more comfortable with metric anyways!), but 1 thousandth of an inch ~= 25 microns so that's probably the closest equivalent measure...
ETA: The funniest metric/imperial mashup I have experienced is while backpacking. We use imperial for everything (pack weighs X lbs, we hiked Y miles, have Z feet of rope). Except volume, when it comes to carrying capacity- I have a 55 L pack, and carry 3 L of water. And then when it is time to rehydrate my dinner, I have to add 2 cups of water but my cooking pot has lines every 100 mL so I had to work out in advance how many mL are in 2 cups and etch an extra line at that point0 -
October Running:
10/03: 4.03 miles (1E/2MP/1E)
10/05: 3.01 mile easy run
10/07: 2.01 mile easy run
10/08: Chicago Marathon (26.54 miles)!!!!!
10/10: 2.01 mile easy run
10/11: 3.08 mile easy run
10/13: 3.03 mile easy run
10/15: 4.08 mile easy run
10/16: 6.04 miles- 10x400m@5K pace
Total: 56.90 miles
Notes:
Yesterday was my first Track Tuesday workout in months!! It felt good to get out there and run fast, faster than I’ve ran since marathon training started back in May! 10x400@5K pace with 400m recovery between, plus a warm up and short cool down. Goal for the 400s was 1:45, actual splits were: 1:45, 1:45, 1:44, 1:43, 1:44, 1:44, 1:44, 1:44, 1:44, 1:45. Right on target!
Upcoming Races:
Chicago Marathon - 10/08/17 Finished in 3:54:35!!!
Space Coast Half Marathon - 11/26/17
Jingle Bell Run 5K - 12/09/17
Excalibur 10 Miler - 03/18/184 -
@kgirlhart - no one really ever says anything while you are fat but when you lose or get skinny, all the comments come out. If you feel good, and you look good, you crush it girl! They are jealous of your awesomeness!
@PastorVincent & @fitoverfortymom - I know why some people quit...because truthfully, that first mile is so HARD! All the kinks need to get worked out, the breathing needs to get in line and then things start to fall into place. So I can see when people add in high mileage, how they HATE short runs. Just as everything is feeling like it's coming together, it's time to stop. Now, I'm not there yet. LOL. My long run is only 6 miles. But I couldn't say that 5 months ago. My long run was 6 houses. LOL
@BruinsGal_91 - I hope you beat him!!!
@MNLittleFinn - That is a great quote!
@weat0043 - me too! I don't know that I would have kept up with the running without finding this group!
@ddmon811 - I hope you heal and find out the reason soon.3 -
@girlinahat Sometimes posts get buried in this thread. I don't really have any advice about the panic attacks. I do know a couple of people who have had them. One takes medications and one refuses medications and just self medicates. Personally I think that seeing a doctor and either going the medication route or trying some meditation and talk therapy is the best bet.
For what it's worth, I have always considered you to be one of the experienced runners on this thread and I value your advice. I am kind of bad about mentioning people in posts. I try to do it, but a lot of the time I am on my phone and it is difficult.1 -
@seanevan10, my long run just this week is 7 miles, so we're roughly the same place. I was just momentarily excited on my Hal Higdon plan that yesterday was "easy 3 mile run" and I got out there and I'm like WTF, this isn't easy at all!
Today's 4.5 however, was marvelous! My most consistent pace yet!
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10/01 - REST
10/02 - 4m
10/03 - CROSS // 20 mins mat pilates + walk
10/04 - 4m
10/05 - REST
10/06 - CROSS // 60 mins Bodypump + 5 minute treadmill run
10/07 - REST
10/08 - 3.2
10/09 - 4
10/10 - CROSS // 20 minutes core/stretching work
10/11 - 4
10/12 - REST
10/13 - CROSS // 30 mins TRX / 20 mins CXWORKS / .3 mile jog with dog
10/14 - 6
10/15 - REST
10/16 - 4.5
10/17 - 2.2
10/18 - 4.5
Goal: 50
MTD: 33.4
Upcoming Races
10/08 - (5k) Run the Rocks
10/28 - (10k) Kooky Spooky
11/18 - (10k) Turkey Trek
12/09 - (HM) Fa La La Half Marathon
Today shall forever be known as "The one when she was really consistent." 4.5 miles yielded: 11:47, 11:37, 11:08, 11:09, 11:26
Gotta figure out how to stay strong that last half mile. For some reason when I hear the audio prompt for .49 miles left, my everything gets tired. I might change the audio to one mile instead of half mile prompts.
Not quite as fast as my other miles this week, but my goal today was to be consistent, and I was!
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Poking my head in here to let y'all know I'm still alive. Still running. Still training for my half marathon in 17 DAYS!!!
Last Saturday I ran 13 miles just to prove to my ever-doubting mind that I could, in fact, run that far. Did it in 2:43: something-or-other! The GU packs work great. I'm still having trouble with pain at the pad of my foot. Sigh. But walking while I suck down the GU stuff helps get me through the miles. I have an unfashionable fanny pack to put the GUs, my small bottle of Frost Gatorade, and my phone in. It's all coming together!
I'm getting nervous/excited y'all!
p.s. Since I've had to make up my own training for the last several weeks (finished HHHM plan) what do you think my long runs should be on the 21st and 28th before my HM on the 4th?10 -
@girlinahat, catching up on threads this morning and was going to respond but see several others have by now as well. I'm sorry you're having to deal with that. I don't have any spectacular advice because I have similar issues and just avoid the situations. I can be in a crowd of complete strangers and be perfectly fine as long as I'm not expected to interact with them in any way but put me with a few people (even friends) that I have to interact with and I'm a miserable mess. Hugs to you and I hope you find a way to manage the anxiety better than just avoiding everything like I do!
@7lenny7, hilarious!
For those of you who mentioned the first mile(s) being hard, I'm glad to hear that. I've been wondering what the heck is wrong with me. I know that if I can get through the first couple of miles I'll be good.
So, I'm still benched with what I'm pretty sure is my piriformis. I've been continuing the stretches and was able to walk the past couple days without pain. My HM plan for next month is up in the air while I figure out if I'll be ok to run or not. Even if I participate, I'll probably have to walk/run and I was really hoping not to have to do that.1 -
4 miles this morning. It's gotten a bit chilly here over the last couple of days which makes me very happy. Mid-40's is about the perfect running weather for me.
October race- Halloween Hunt 5 Miler 10/283 -
@girlinahat - I think maybe some posts hit home or we some just don't know what to say.
I have never hyperventilated when running, but I have high anxiety anyway. (Taking meds) I have only just started running with a group and got left pretty quickly. Sometimes, I think that I am doing better and then I get with others and BAM! feel like I get knocked back to the bottom. We are all in different places, but like Elise said, You belong. "Your worth lies in the willingness to take on the challenge." You got this girl and we are here for you!2 -
fitoverfortymom wrote: »@seanevan10, my long run just this week is 7 miles, so we're roughly the same place. I was just momentarily excited on my Hal Higdon plan that yesterday was "easy 3 mile run" and I got out there and I'm like WTF, this isn't easy at all!
Today's 4.5 however, was marvelous! My most consistent pace yet!
@fitoverfortymom so I had your day yesterday, early this morning. Suck fest!!! I got about 2 miles in and my shoe was untied. I stopped to retie and didn't have anything left in me. Walked the rest and even cut it short. Oh well. Glad you had a great consistent run today!1 -
@WandaVaughn no advice because I've never ran that far. Just wanted to say GOOD LUCK!!! You are doing great!1
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10/1 – 6 miles
10/2 – rest day
10/3 – 8 miles
10/4 - 5 miles
10/5 - 10 miles
10/6 - 5 miles
10/7 - rest day
10/8 - rest day
10/9 - 6 miles
10/10 - 7 miles
10/11 – rest day
10/12 – 6 miles
10/13 - unscheduled rest day
10/14 - college visit with Skip
10/15 - 3.1 miles for AIM
10/16 - 6 miles
10/17 - rest day - meet day so technically I ran 4 miles ha ha
10/18 - 7 miles
69 of 100 miles
I'll have to come back and read, great morning so a run 45F and just pretty out, very quiet morning for some reason.
Skip had a meet yesterday so I took a rest day, she had her best meet of the year finishing 8th with a time of 22:31, she was so upset, she went off course. Ugh! Probably cost her 20 seconds and definitely cost her 4th place. Funny thing is it was the SAME place we went off course on the pre run on Sunday so she knew it was wrong. I said didn't you see the course flags, she said nope I was too busy running. The off course also took her up a big hill. Oh well live and learn.
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@fitoverfortymom I'm also following a Hal Higdon plan and some of my "easy" runs are not easy while others are easy and yet the pace seems good. Garmin has shown a huge pace improvement in the past week since I figured out the gall bladder issue; and last night was an "easy" run that not only felt easy, but was 0:17 / mile faster than "race pace" (goal race pace). Maybe my understanding is wrong, but I think the key to an "easy" run is how you feel rather than actual pace... so if it feels hard while you are running, you can go ahead slow down even if you already disapprove of your pace.1
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midwesterner85 wrote: »@fitoverfortymom I'm also following a Hal Higdon plan and some of my "easy" runs are not easy while others are easy and yet the pace seems good. Garmin has shown a huge pace improvement in the past week since I figured out the gall bladder issue; and last night was an "easy" run that not only felt easy, but was 0:17 / mile faster than "race pace" (goal race pace). Maybe my understanding is wrong, but I think the key to an "easy" run is how you feel rather than actual pace... so if it feels hard while you are running, you can go ahead slow down even if you already disapprove of your pace.
Yeah, having done a few of Hal's plans... I agree. "Easy" is by feel. Weather, how much sleep you got, stress, and many other things will impact actual pace.2 -
Just a ramble. Work is slow...
I want a Garmin 935. LOL! Who doesn't right? I forgot my Garmin again today... Guess I can run home at lunch and get it for my after work ride.
I'm really excited to do a brick work out. @juliet3455 . Maybe next week, since my ankle is still tender and sore.
I like my 620 just fine. Be nice to have something for swimming though.... Bit pricey for a "want". Sure if I let go of the money, car, vet, doctor or the like will come up... pool is not even open yet.. like gear is gonna make these lazy bones awesome or less lazy. Haha!1 -
Thanks for the info on the foot pod @Elise4270 and @PastorVincent for the insights on how the Garmin works. I'm trying to find a used foot pod as it seems a little pricey for what I want. Though Garmin's indoor guesstimate ripped me off by over a minute per mile today, so I may have to get on that to keep my sanity.
@girlinahat I'm sorry you experienced that. As a very slow runner, I can relate to a lot of what you are saying. I hyperventilated while hiking one time as I was only about 1/4 of the way and I didn't think I could make it. There was no choice to go back as it was a popular, small path where you had to climb up (one way only; it was too dangerous to go down) and then take a gondola down; it was either continue to the top or call for a rescue. So many people were passing me and I was holding people up in the really narrow parts and it just got to be too much. Once the tears started flowing, I realized I was just panicking. This alone helped calm me. I have slight anxiety normally, but not to the point where I feel medication is necessary. It took me a couple of years to do that hike again, and it was just as awful the second time. But I knew what I was in for, paced myself better, and I didn't have a breakdown = success. Keep at it. We may be slower to respond to training, but if we keep at it, I believe we'll get better. Hugs.4 -
@PastorVincent great way to earn that money to go to Hawaii ha ha
@fitoverfortymom I have done a few virtual races, but I always check the amount of money going to the cause. I’ve look at races where there is like 5% of the money raised actually going to the charity/cause. If that is the case I’ll send my money directly to the cause.
@girlinahat “yes, we all talked politics on Saturday night, US in particular. No, we weren't complimentary)” no one is complimentary here either.
@7lenny7 that is the best ever
Fantastic @weat0043
@kgirlhart I had someone actually ask me if I had cancer after losing 70 lbs. Really? THAT was your first thought. I think it just takes time for people to adjust to your new slim self. Or they are petty and jealous, one or the other.
@garygse I’d run for the Star Wars shirt for sure. I signed up for a local 5K and they are doing sweatshirts, I thought that was sweet.
@ddmom0811 glad the surgery went well, I had to laugh at the urologists reply.
@shrcpr sorry to hear you are still having pain
@WandaVaughn you are so ready for the HH
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I'm in for 40 miles in 16 runs.
2 OCT 2.59 mi
5 OCT 2.82 mi 5.41 mi total
7 OCT 3.2 mi 8.61 mi total
9 OCT 2.84 mi 11.45 mi total
11 OCT 3.21 mi 14.66 mi total
14 OCT 2.83 mi 17.49 mi total
17 OCT 4.24 mi 21.73 mi total
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10/1 rest
10/2 5.5miles 50m:22s
10/3 5miles 45m:30s
10/4 9miles 1h:24m:02s
10/5 6miles 55:m:30s
10/6 11miles 1h:45m:40s
10/7 4miles 38m:39s
10/8 rest
10/9 6.56miles 61m:30s
10/10 5miles 47m:01s
10/11 7miles 1h:06m:10s
10/12 4.42miles 48m:00s
10/13 12miles 1h:53m:24s
10/15 5miles 48m:31s
10/16 rest
10/17 5.8miles 55m:37s
10/18 7miles 64m:13s
10/19 9miles 1h:20m:51s
Great 9 mile run this morning. The weather was wonderful, cool and sunny. Not only did I feel pretty good, I ran it faster than my goal HM pace. I think I could have run another 4 miles in 40 minutes. My goal is 2 hours. I’ve run it 3 times and the best I’ve done is 2 hours and 4 minutes.
I’m feeling more confident that I’ll accomplish my highest mileage week yet! 21.8 miles run, 22 more miles left.
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10/1 = 15 miles
10/2 = 6.5 miles and strength training
10/3 = rest day
10/4 = 8 miles
10/5 = 6.5 easy miles and strength training
10/6 = kettlebell workout
10/7 = 7 miles
10/8 = 16 miles
10/9 = 8 miles
10/10 = Vinyasa yoga class & 5.5 mile hike
10/11 = 8.5 miles
10/12 = rest day (because of stupid work crap)
10/13 = 7.5 miles and 30 minutes of weights at the gym
10/14 = 5.5 miles
10/15 = 17 rainy miles (run/walk intervals with the group)
10/16 = 8 miles and 20 minutes of strength training
10/17 = Vinyasa yoga class
10/18 = 9 miles
It was an amazing 46 degrees this morning. What a difference the drop in temperature has made! For the first time in a long time, it didn't feel like I was struggle-running. My pace was 30 seconds faster a mile and it felt effortless. I kept thinking, "Oh yeah...This is why I love running!".
I hope everyone's running/races have been going well. I am so far behind the discussion. I have no hope of catching up at this point.
127.5/175 (September goal miles)
Upcoming Races:
10/28 = Hill Country Halloween Half Marathon
11/23 = Georgetown Turkey Trot
12/10 = BCS Marathon
1/6/18 = River Road Run Half Marathon2 -
10/1- 6 miles+ doggie walking
10/2-P90X3 Total Synergystics+ doggie walking
10/3-P90X3 Agility +7.1 hilly miles
10/4- P90X3 yoga + hour of walking the pup
10/5-45 minute weight training+5 miles+15 min doggie walk
10/6- P90X3 Dynamix + 50 minutes of doggie walking
10/7-10 miles + 25 minutes doggie walking with some little jogs thrown in
10/8-P90X3 Challenge (push up/pull up marathon) + 1.4 miles with Stella in the rain
10/9 4.5 miles + 40 minutes walking with doggie
10/10- 4.2 miles lunchtime+ 2.3 miles on treadmill+30 minutes strength (core and chest)+ 40 min w/ doggie
10/11-25 minutes yoga + doggie walks
10/12-Rest/travel day
10/13-7.2 miles-leg #10 Bourbon Chase
10/14-5.4 miles@3Am+6.7 miles 3PM legs 22 and 34 Bourbon Chase
10/15-Rest/travel day
10/16-45 minutes walking the dog
10/17- 6 miles + 20 minutes dog walking
10/18-AM strength training (leg day!) + 15 minutes walking doggie. hope to run tonight
I had the most wonderful run last night. Perfect fall evening. I did a familiar route that starts on the bike path along the river then branches up a twisty hill (Strava segment named "climb the snake") for a little over a mile. It's an out and back and the reward for climbing the hill is that you get an amazing sunset view of the valley and river on the way back down. It was one of those runs that you never want to end. And glad to report that my legs are feeling fully recovered after this weekend. I still am wanting to do a race report, but it won't be any good without the amazing photos, which were mostly taken by my husband. I am waiting for him to upload them to a share site so I can access them.
This morning I had a session with my trainer ta the gym. We did legs. I was surprised how well mine were able to hold up. I am planning a run after work, but my legs are feeling more tired as the day wears on, so it will likely just be a short one. We shall see. The weather is pretty much a duplicate of yesterday, so it might be hard to quit running!
Here is a photo from last evening's run. Sunset on the Great Miami River.
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@PastorVincent & everyone else talking about measurement... The best is in Canada when you measure everything in a "mixture" ... Oh you're building a house...let's use Imperial but a Commercial Building we'll use Metric. Let's weigh everything but ourselves using grams/kilograms and then have to convert it because half the population still goes by Pounds... Did you need a gallon of paint or a 5L pail... -_- sorry I'm a little late to the conversation just thought I'd add my two cents.4
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@PastorVincent @Elise4270 Unless you're in Canada... Then we measure with all sorts of weirdness. Oh you're building a house...let's use Imperial but a Commercial Building we'll use Metric. Let's weigh everything but ourselves using grams/kilograms and then have to convert it because half the population still goes by Pounds... -_-
And if you're in the UK, you can completely confuse the rest of the world by talking about your weight in 'stones'.6 -
@lporter229 I love the colors reflected in the water! So pretty0
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