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Dr Jason Fung - The Useless Concept of Calories
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Ironically, the only cravings i cant control are fats. Which is onw reason i could never go keto. And the volume sucks *kitten*... do i couldnt handle that non sense.
Same. Cheeses, roasted nuts (especially pecans), whipped cream, butter, cured meats, garlic oil, hot oil .. hard to control for me.
This is why I eventually gained weight when I went low carb.
Not so much the cured meats, all the other things plus stuff like egg salad, and chicken legs and being told I was supposedly naturally controlling calories?
Yeah, no.9 -
Why would anyone try something they have no interest in for 90 days? Why is it wrong to have an emotional craving for some bread if you don't then overeat it? Honestly. Let me eat my bread and still lose weight and still be healthy. And if you take my porridge I will cut you.
I too am someone that will merrily overeat fats. Toasted ciabatta (yes bread but not the calorie dense thing on this list) drizzled with good quality cold pressed extra virgin oil, topped with prosciutto, down the hatch. All the cheese in the world. All the butter in the world on my veg and I include non-starches in that. Hunks of butter to cook my scrambled eggs.
I don't eat a lot of starch really so that's not my downfall. I wish certain factions would stop suggesting we're enslaved to the evil carbs and grains.24 -
It would be a counter productive endeavour for me for sure lol.
Struggling for 90 days on a diet I know is not for me just to see if my cravings for things go away..
I know they wouldn't. Lol. And I know they wouldn't cause I would be struggling for 90 days and counting down the days until I could give the diet the middle finger4 -
Can someone explain to me how craving the taste and texture of a delicious food is an emotional craving? lol11
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Carlos_421 wrote: »Can someone explain to me how craving the taste and texture of a delicious food is an emotional craving? lol
Can someone explain how it isn't?
Craving a flavor/tactile experience is just that, A craving. It's not hunger. It feels like hunger. It acts like hunger, but it's not.5 -
Is there a reason why an emotional craving is bad? Should I care that I want that bread? I mean again.. if I have the calories for it I can eat that bread no problem. I have known myself 31 years and at this point I know what I enjoy.. i know what foods usually cycle through for me. It would seem silly to me for me to go low carb or keto simply to what? Not have an emotional craving? Avoid a food that isn't bad? You know what I worked on once I got medicated for my BED? Eating in a way that doesn't result in me just going too long without something and maintaining control through moderate amounts and rotations of foods. The medications stop my brain from not being able to stop and put me in a place where I can now choose and control what I do with food. And like others it was not easy to not say screw it and eat an entire package of 4 oh Henry bars but I worked hard at it so that I don't have to go to extremes to not have cravings even emotional ones.6
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stanmann571 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Can someone explain to me how craving the taste and texture of a delicious food is an emotional craving? lol
Can someone explain how it isn't?
Craving a flavor/tactile experience is just that, A craving. It's not hunger. It feels like hunger. It acts like hunger, but it's not.
That's not an emotion, though. It's a hedonistic urge to be more precise. Saying cravings are emotional is dramatizing them.
Sometimes cravings can have an emotional element if they're attached to memories, but if they're sensation based? That's hedonic.11 -
HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »I dunno... maybe i am just a weirdo.. but.. i can make my own donairs..
(Cause i know people are gonna be like.. what the *kitten* is a donair?!"
But despite that.. eventually i will get a craving for one from a take out place.. even with substitutes available.
i know there are people out there who can just not substitute and just go without.. but i feel like the amount who can compared to the amount of keto enthusiasts claiming as such just don't add up..
you know eventually i am going to look like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists who instead of ranting about a flat earth or the moon landing not happening, I will be jibber jabbering about keto and cravings lol
That's a Dürüm though!2 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Can someone explain to me how craving the taste and texture of a delicious food is an emotional craving? lol
Can someone explain how it isn't?
Craving a flavor/tactile experience is just that, A craving. It's not hunger. It feels like hunger. It acts like hunger, but it's not.
Yeah, but that's not emotion. It doesn't make me want to cry or hug my mother...1 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Can someone explain to me how craving the taste and texture of a delicious food is an emotional craving? lol
Can someone explain how it isn't?
Craving a flavor/tactile experience is just that, A craving. It's not hunger. It feels like hunger. It acts like hunger, but it's not.
That's not an emotion, though. It's a hedonistic urge to be more precise. Saying cravings are emotional is dramatizing them.
Sometimes cravings can have an emotional element if they're attached to memories, but if they're sensation based? That's hedonic.
Exactly.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Can someone explain to me how craving the taste and texture of a delicious food is an emotional craving? lol
Can someone explain how it isn't?
Craving a flavor/tactile experience is just that, A craving. It's not hunger. It feels like hunger. It acts like hunger, but it's not.
Yeah, but that's not emotion. It doesn't make me want to cry or hug my mother...
There are other emotions.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »@GottaBurnEmAll
So here is a question.. If someone was eating bread and pasta and potatoes and rice before deciding to do keto...
Going with your idea that food is craved based on our time away from it for a while and then we crave it and eat it again or for a while.. if someone was going keto, wouldn't the cravings for those things happen? People doing keto notoriously say that their cravings are gone, but i agree with you, my cravings do usually come when its something i ate for a while, stopped and have not had in a while (short of chocolate) -- its why i don't believe the keto hype about it killing cravings for everyone.. i really believe that most people are riding that new diet motivation. If you ate bread pretty often before and then stopped, eventually there must be a time, regardless of how satiated you are on keto, where you crave chewy soft fresh bread, i really find it hard to believe that everyone just stops wanting everything carb related they ate before..
Try it for 90 days and see what happens in your case and stop questioning what you are or are not missing by going keto. By the way craving chewy soft fresh bread is an emotional craving. While in about 30 days most of my carb cravings were fading fast remembering the taste, smell and feel of a banana split was strong for more like six months. Three years after cutting out all sugar and all forms of grains my physical carb cravings are still gone but emotional carb cravings can get triggered from time to time but not one that is strong enough to act on I find in my case.
Forget the definition of "emotion". I'm still over here feeling all perplexed about how person A for sure knows the exact nature and origin of person B's craving . . better than person B does.
I mean, I know I'm a screwed-up introvert and all, but do you other guys have some kind of psych periscopes that let you look up in other people's heads?
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Ironically, the only cravings i cant control are fats. Which is onw reason i could never go keto. And the volume sucks *kitten*... do i couldnt handle that non sense.
Same. Cheeses, roasted nuts (especially pecans), whipped cream, butter, cured meats, garlic oil, hot oil .. hard to control for me.
This is why I eventually gained weight when I went low carb. Not so much the cured meats, all the other things plus stuff like egg salad, and chicken legs and being told I was supposedly naturally controlling calories?
Yeah, no.
That's a huge part of why I gained so much weight when I went on my insulin pump. Because in my head, I was *convinced* that carbs (and thus more insulin) were awful for snacks, and thus I was gravitating toward cheese and Italian deli meats. Because they were easy to eat, and required no prep work, and hey, they weren't those awful carbs.
And then I gained 10 pounds.
It's taking *a lot* of work for me to see that protein and fats aren't the evil devil creature that make you fat. I'm still working on that. I've joked with providers that I see that I'm the only person on earth who is terrified of protein.4 -
stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »I dunno... maybe i am just a weirdo.. but.. i can make my own donairs..
(Cause i know people are gonna be like.. what the *kitten* is a donair?!"
But despite that.. eventually i will get a craving for one from a take out place.. even with substitutes available.
i know there are people out there who can just not substitute and just go without.. but i feel like the amount who can compared to the amount of keto enthusiasts claiming as such just don't add up..
you know eventually i am going to look like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists who instead of ranting about a flat earth or the moon landing not happening, I will be jibber jabbering about keto and cravings lol
That's a Dürüm though!
Probably in its original country of origin. However when it came to Halifax the recipe was changed and it became a donair. It's officially our official food of halifax.1 -
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i just haven't met anyone besides ONE lady in my whole real life world of friends and family who has stayed low carb into old age and keeps her weight off that way. It works for her sustainably. Can you lose weight eliminating food groups? SURE! I did Atkins in 1999 and lost 45 pounds. Kept it off for....2 years. I regained it and then some. I tried Paleo. Lost 20 pounds. Gained it back in a year. Why? Because they seemed a little silly to me and not realistic and not easy and not what i wanted to do forever and ever.
Any diet works. You just have to do something you can do FOREVER to keep the weight OFF. If you don't think you could do Keto for 15 or 50 more years, then why do it now?10 -
HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »I dunno... maybe i am just a weirdo.. but.. i can make my own donairs..
(Cause i know people are gonna be like.. what the *kitten* is a donair?!"
But despite that.. eventually i will get a craving for one from a take out place.. even with substitutes available.
i know there are people out there who can just not substitute and just go without.. but i feel like the amount who can compared to the amount of keto enthusiasts claiming as such just don't add up..
you know eventually i am going to look like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists who instead of ranting about a flat earth or the moon landing not happening, I will be jibber jabbering about keto and cravings lol
That's a Dürüm though!
Probably in its original country of origin. However when it came to Halifax the recipe was changed and it became a donair. It's officially our official food of halifax.
We call 'em donner kebabs here in the UK. Drunk food. If you're really all about the dirty drunk food you get just the donner meat on chips (fries).3 -
VintageFeline wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »I dunno... maybe i am just a weirdo.. but.. i can make my own donairs..
(Cause i know people are gonna be like.. what the *kitten* is a donair?!"
But despite that.. eventually i will get a craving for one from a take out place.. even with substitutes available.
i know there are people out there who can just not substitute and just go without.. but i feel like the amount who can compared to the amount of keto enthusiasts claiming as such just don't add up..
you know eventually i am going to look like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists who instead of ranting about a flat earth or the moon landing not happening, I will be jibber jabbering about keto and cravings lol
That's a Dürüm though!
Probably in its original country of origin. However when it came to Halifax the recipe was changed and it became a donair. It's officially our official food of halifax.
We call 'em donner kebabs here in the UK. Drunk food. If you're really all about the dirty drunk food you get just the donner meat on chips (fries).
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HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »HellYeahItsKriss wrote: »I dunno... maybe i am just a weirdo.. but.. i can make my own donairs..
(Cause i know people are gonna be like.. what the *kitten* is a donair?!"
But despite that.. eventually i will get a craving for one from a take out place.. even with substitutes available.
i know there are people out there who can just not substitute and just go without.. but i feel like the amount who can compared to the amount of keto enthusiasts claiming as such just don't add up..
you know eventually i am going to look like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists who instead of ranting about a flat earth or the moon landing not happening, I will be jibber jabbering about keto and cravings lol
That's a Dürüm though!
Probably in its original country of origin. However when it came to Halifax the recipe was changed and it became a donair. It's officially our official food of halifax.
Okay, it's got less vegetables and some sort of sweet cocktail sauce in a pita.
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