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Pizza Is a Healthier Breakfast Than Most Cereals
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interesting- I don't know anything about this at all- but interesting- I can tell you- I was so stabby when I flipped them over and saw the serving size. they make such a big deal about the cookies -and ONLY XXX calories per serving -and protein and bla bla bla.janejellyroll wrote: »
then why are Len and Larry cookies not one serving?
because one cookie in a package in theory should equal one serving- and it's not.
My understanding: If the package is small enough that one could "reasonably" assume a person would eat it all at once but it's technically more than one serving based on the RACC ("Reference Amounts Customarily Consumed" from the database), then the food company is "encouraged" but not required to list it as one serving. But because it looks better to have a smaller calorie number, many companies don't choose to do this and that's why you have things like 2.5 servings of soda in a 20-ounce bottle and, of course, a single cookie that is listed as two servings.
But this loophole only applies to smaller packages, it wouldn't come into play for an entire box of cereal (the original example). And it doesn't allow food companies to massage serving sizes on larger packages of food either.
*kitten*- it's a regular cookie- and the serving size is TWO- so it's like 300 effing calories.
Team Optimum Cake Bites.janejellyroll wrote: »TeacupsAndToning wrote: »Just in time for the Superbowl.
http://citnutritionally.com/pizza-healthier-breakfast-option-cereal/
https://www.thedailymeal.com/healthy-eating/pizza-healthier-breakfast-cereal“You may be surprised to find out that an average slice of pizza and a bowl of cereal with whole milk contain nearly the same amount of calories,” explained Chelsey Amer, MS, RDN, CDN to The Daily Meal. “However, pizza packs a much larger protein punch, which will keep you full and boost satiety throughout the morning.”
She mentioned that pizza isn’t a health food per say; it’s certainly not your most nutritious option. But when compared with a quickly poured bowl of sugar flakes, it’s a more balanced meal.
“Plus, a slice of pizza contains more fat and much less sugar than most cold cereals, so you will not experience a quick sugar crash,” Amer confirmed.
As reported, most people eating cereals are using more than twice the normal serving.
For me yes as when I eat cereal I want a mountain of it. Fill that bowl up, bb.
It's a really sad moment when you weigh your cereal and discover what an actual "serving" (as listed on the box) is. Almost as sad as a "serving" of peanut butter.
The first time I weighed out granola my mind was *blown.* I haven't bought it since.
I use granola on my yogurt because all in all yogurt is gross- so I sprinkle some on top- I get sad thinking about how much it really isn't. Granola was never meant to be "health" food though- so I can't complain to much.0 -
interesting- I don't know anything about this at all- but interesting- I can tell you- I was so stabby when I flipped them over and saw the serving size. they make such a big deal about the cookies -and ONLY XXX calories per serving -and protein and bla bla bla.janejellyroll wrote: »
then why are Len and Larry cookies not one serving?
because one cookie in a package in theory should equal one serving- and it's not.
My understanding: If the package is small enough that one could "reasonably" assume a person would eat it all at once but it's technically more than one serving based on the RACC ("Reference Amounts Customarily Consumed" from the database), then the food company is "encouraged" but not required to list it as one serving. But because it looks better to have a smaller calorie number, many companies don't choose to do this and that's why you have things like 2.5 servings of soda in a 20-ounce bottle and, of course, a single cookie that is listed as two servings.
But this loophole only applies to smaller packages, it wouldn't come into play for an entire box of cereal (the original example). And it doesn't allow food companies to massage serving sizes on larger packages of food either.
*kitten*- it's a regular cookie- and the serving size is TWO- so it's like 300 effing calories.
Team Optimum Cake Bites.janejellyroll wrote: »TeacupsAndToning wrote: »Just in time for the Superbowl.
http://citnutritionally.com/pizza-healthier-breakfast-option-cereal/
https://www.thedailymeal.com/healthy-eating/pizza-healthier-breakfast-cereal“You may be surprised to find out that an average slice of pizza and a bowl of cereal with whole milk contain nearly the same amount of calories,” explained Chelsey Amer, MS, RDN, CDN to The Daily Meal. “However, pizza packs a much larger protein punch, which will keep you full and boost satiety throughout the morning.”
She mentioned that pizza isn’t a health food per say; it’s certainly not your most nutritious option. But when compared with a quickly poured bowl of sugar flakes, it’s a more balanced meal.
“Plus, a slice of pizza contains more fat and much less sugar than most cold cereals, so you will not experience a quick sugar crash,” Amer confirmed.
As reported, most people eating cereals are using more than twice the normal serving.
For me yes as when I eat cereal I want a mountain of it. Fill that bowl up, bb.
It's a really sad moment when you weigh your cereal and discover what an actual "serving" (as listed on the box) is. Almost as sad as a "serving" of peanut butter.
The first time I weighed out granola my mind was *blown.* I haven't bought it since.
I use granola on my yogurt because all in all yogurt is gross- so I sprinkle some on top- I get sad thinking about how much it really isn't. Granola was never meant to be "health" food though- so I can't complain to much.
Len and Larry's cookies are one of the most egregious "offenders" in this regard, IMO. They list the calories for a half cookie, but the protein and fiber stats on the front are for a whole cookie. I am pretty tolerant about stuff like this, but I feel like their practices verge on the deliberately deceptive.
The first time I bought one, it didn't even occur to me that they'd expect me to eat half a cookie so, of course, I ate the whole thing (and I'm usually really good at catching label information). Fortunately I wasn't that thrilled with the taste, so I don't have to worry about it . . .
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janejellyroll wrote: »TeacupsAndToning wrote: »Just in time for the Superbowl.
http://citnutritionally.com/pizza-healthier-breakfast-option-cereal/
https://www.thedailymeal.com/healthy-eating/pizza-healthier-breakfast-cereal“You may be surprised to find out that an average slice of pizza and a bowl of cereal with whole milk contain nearly the same amount of calories,” explained Chelsey Amer, MS, RDN, CDN to The Daily Meal. “However, pizza packs a much larger protein punch, which will keep you full and boost satiety throughout the morning.”
She mentioned that pizza isn’t a health food per say; it’s certainly not your most nutritious option. But when compared with a quickly poured bowl of sugar flakes, it’s a more balanced meal.
“Plus, a slice of pizza contains more fat and much less sugar than most cold cereals, so you will not experience a quick sugar crash,” Amer confirmed.
As reported, most people eating cereals are using more than twice the normal serving.
For me yes as when I eat cereal I want a mountain of it. Fill that bowl up, bb.
It's a really sad moment when you weigh your cereal and discover what an actual "serving" (as listed on the box) is. Almost as sad as a "serving" of peanut butter.
The first time I weighed out granola my mind was *blown.* I haven't bought it since.
....but...but granola is so healthy!
I think this was my epiphany moment as well. I has little issue with portion control over "unhealthy" products, but calorie bombs like granola just blew my mind when I started weighing and budgeting.2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »TeacupsAndToning wrote: »Just in time for the Superbowl.
http://citnutritionally.com/pizza-healthier-breakfast-option-cereal/
https://www.thedailymeal.com/healthy-eating/pizza-healthier-breakfast-cereal“You may be surprised to find out that an average slice of pizza and a bowl of cereal with whole milk contain nearly the same amount of calories,” explained Chelsey Amer, MS, RDN, CDN to The Daily Meal. “However, pizza packs a much larger protein punch, which will keep you full and boost satiety throughout the morning.”
She mentioned that pizza isn’t a health food per say; it’s certainly not your most nutritious option. But when compared with a quickly poured bowl of sugar flakes, it’s a more balanced meal.
“Plus, a slice of pizza contains more fat and much less sugar than most cold cereals, so you will not experience a quick sugar crash,” Amer confirmed.
As reported, most people eating cereals are using more than twice the normal serving.
For me yes as when I eat cereal I want a mountain of it. Fill that bowl up, bb.
It's a really sad moment when you weigh your cereal and discover what an actual "serving" (as listed on the box) is. Almost as sad as a "serving" of peanut butter.
The first time I weighed out granola my mind was *blown.* I haven't bought it since.
....but...but granola is so healthy!
I think this was my epiphany moment as well. I has little issue with portion control over "unhealthy" products, but calorie bombs like granola just blew my mind when I started weighing and budgeting.
Yep. Granola was taken off my grocery list, for sure.
Between this thread and the competition coach thread, I really want pizza now!2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »
interesting- I don't know anything about this at all- but interesting- I can tell you- I was so stabby when I flipped them over and saw the serving size. they make such a big deal about the cookies -and ONLY XXX calories per serving -and protein and bla bla bla.janejellyroll wrote: »
then why are Len and Larry cookies not one serving?
because one cookie in a package in theory should equal one serving- and it's not.
My understanding: If the package is small enough that one could "reasonably" assume a person would eat it all at once but it's technically more than one serving based on the RACC ("Reference Amounts Customarily Consumed" from the database), then the food company is "encouraged" but not required to list it as one serving. But because it looks better to have a smaller calorie number, many companies don't choose to do this and that's why you have things like 2.5 servings of soda in a 20-ounce bottle and, of course, a single cookie that is listed as two servings.
But this loophole only applies to smaller packages, it wouldn't come into play for an entire box of cereal (the original example). And it doesn't allow food companies to massage serving sizes on larger packages of food either.
*kitten*- it's a regular cookie- and the serving size is TWO- so it's like 300 effing calories.
Team Optimum Cake Bites.janejellyroll wrote: »TeacupsAndToning wrote: »Just in time for the Superbowl.
http://citnutritionally.com/pizza-healthier-breakfast-option-cereal/
https://www.thedailymeal.com/healthy-eating/pizza-healthier-breakfast-cereal“You may be surprised to find out that an average slice of pizza and a bowl of cereal with whole milk contain nearly the same amount of calories,” explained Chelsey Amer, MS, RDN, CDN to The Daily Meal. “However, pizza packs a much larger protein punch, which will keep you full and boost satiety throughout the morning.”
She mentioned that pizza isn’t a health food per say; it’s certainly not your most nutritious option. But when compared with a quickly poured bowl of sugar flakes, it’s a more balanced meal.
“Plus, a slice of pizza contains more fat and much less sugar than most cold cereals, so you will not experience a quick sugar crash,” Amer confirmed.
As reported, most people eating cereals are using more than twice the normal serving.
For me yes as when I eat cereal I want a mountain of it. Fill that bowl up, bb.
It's a really sad moment when you weigh your cereal and discover what an actual "serving" (as listed on the box) is. Almost as sad as a "serving" of peanut butter.
The first time I weighed out granola my mind was *blown.* I haven't bought it since.
I use granola on my yogurt because all in all yogurt is gross- so I sprinkle some on top- I get sad thinking about how much it really isn't. Granola was never meant to be "health" food though- so I can't complain to much.
Len and Larry's cookies are one of the most egregious "offenders" in this regard, IMO. They list the calories for a half cookie, but the protein and fiber stats on the front are for a whole cookie. I am pretty tolerant about stuff like this, but I feel like their practices verge on the deliberately deceptive.
The first time I bought one, it didn't even occur to me that they'd expect me to eat half a cookie so, of course, I ate the whole thing (and I'm usually really good at catching label information). Fortunately I wasn't that thrilled with the taste, so I don't have to worry about it . . .
They were trying to hard to be a "health" cookie that wasn't. There was one of them that I liked- but yeah- no- trying to hard and to many calories. Like I said I reach for the cake bites. safer choice.quiksylver296 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »TeacupsAndToning wrote: »Just in time for the Superbowl.
http://citnutritionally.com/pizza-healthier-breakfast-option-cereal/
https://www.thedailymeal.com/healthy-eating/pizza-healthier-breakfast-cereal“You may be surprised to find out that an average slice of pizza and a bowl of cereal with whole milk contain nearly the same amount of calories,” explained Chelsey Amer, MS, RDN, CDN to The Daily Meal. “However, pizza packs a much larger protein punch, which will keep you full and boost satiety throughout the morning.”
She mentioned that pizza isn’t a health food per say; it’s certainly not your most nutritious option. But when compared with a quickly poured bowl of sugar flakes, it’s a more balanced meal.
“Plus, a slice of pizza contains more fat and much less sugar than most cold cereals, so you will not experience a quick sugar crash,” Amer confirmed.
As reported, most people eating cereals are using more than twice the normal serving.
For me yes as when I eat cereal I want a mountain of it. Fill that bowl up, bb.
It's a really sad moment when you weigh your cereal and discover what an actual "serving" (as listed on the box) is. Almost as sad as a "serving" of peanut butter.
The first time I weighed out granola my mind was *blown.* I haven't bought it since.
....but...but granola is so healthy!
I think this was my epiphany moment as well. I has little issue with portion control over "unhealthy" products, but calorie bombs like granola just blew my mind when I started weighing and budgeting.
Yep. Granola was taken off my grocery list, for sure.
Between this thread and the competition coach thread, I really want pizza now!
AGREED! except - it's only Tuesday.
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Another one who took granola (and pretty much all cereal) off the shopping list. I really thought it was better than Fruit Loops. It was when I got a food scale and realized how far off the cup vs grams was and looked at the calories I had been eating based on using the cup measurement that I really got ticked off.
Hmmm. Maybe I should see if my Dad wants to go for pizza tonight. The calories don't count if I'm with my 86 yr old dad, right?3 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »Another one who took granola (and pretty much all cereal) off the shopping list. I really thought it was better than Fruit Loops. It was when I got a food scale and realized how far off the cup vs grams was and looked at the calories I had been eating based on using the cup measurement that I really got ticked off...
Fiber One is the only cereal on my shopping list. I eat 30g of it (weighed) almost every morning with my Greek yogurt. It helps bulk it up and only 60 calories for the serving - which is a reasonable serving when mixed with yogurt. 30g of it with just milk wouldn't even be worth the effort.0 -
I snack on dry cereal when I want to get my iron target up. But I never liked it in milk and that hasn't changed.1
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estherdragonbat wrote: »I snack on dry cereal when I want to get my iron target up. But I never liked it in milk and that hasn't changed.
Yup - dry Cheerios and Corn Flakes are my go to snacks.1 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »I snack on dry cereal when I want to get my iron target up. But I never liked it in milk and that hasn't changed.
Yup - dry Cheerios and Corn Flakes are my go to snacks.
Choco Krispies in Greek yogurt
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Quaker Corn Squares
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ladyreva78 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »I snack on dry cereal when I want to get my iron target up. But I never liked it in milk and that hasn't changed.
Yup - dry Cheerios and Corn Flakes are my go to snacks.
Choco Krispies in Greek yogurt
I ewed this when I saw it.
Now I'm wondering if rice crispies would act like granola in my yogurt for me. It's the only reason I eat granola- give me yogurt some texture. now I'm going to have to try.0 -
Why didn't anyone tell me were were having a cereal love fest over here??
Golden Grahams for me, but I have no control around them and therefore they are on my 'do not buy' list 
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ladyreva78 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »I snack on dry cereal when I want to get my iron target up. But I never liked it in milk and that hasn't changed.
Yup - dry Cheerios and Corn Flakes are my go to snacks.
Choco Krispies in Greek yogurt
I ewed this when I saw it.
Now I'm wondering if rice crispies would act like granola in my yogurt for me. It's the only reason I eat granola- give me yogurt some texture. now I'm going to have to try.
I actually crumble up Special K Protein and put it on top of my Greek yogurt. If I use a half serving it gives me another 5g of protein - and I could do a whole serving for 10g protein for I think 120 calories. It adds nice crunch to it! I also have used Whole Grain Total crumbled up on my yogurt too. Fewer calories but very little protein and not as tasty as the Special K which has a hint of cinnamon.0 -
my mom was an avid tennis player and sport enthusiast - she agrees that pizza is "healthy", as in nutritious. If my mom said it's ok.... it must be! Mother knows best.
But, I love cereal, Cinnamon Life is my favorite - cereal is the best when you're hungover.0 -
Why didn't anyone tell me were were having a cereal love fest over here?? Golden Grahams for me, but I have no control around them and therefore they are on my 'do not buy' list
I have quite a few that I love to have for a snack:
Golden Grahams (probably the one of the only ones, along with Super Golden Crisp, that I enjoy with milk and it's a heaping bowl!)
Super Golden Crisp
Froot Loops
Fruity Pebbles (I have eaten an entire box in one day)
Lucky Charms
Cap'n Crunch Crunchberries
Honeycomb
Frosted Flakes
Special K Vanilla Almond ( I could actually eat 1/2 box in one sitting)
I have a long standing relationship with sugary sweet cereals.
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Am I the only one who thinks, generally speaking (not counting granola because holy calorie bomb Batman), that cereal is pretty good volume wise for the calories? I can have a giant bowl of say Cheerios for not ridiculous calories. Not saying it fills me up especially but if I want to scratch the cereal itch it's not hard to fit in.3
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VintageFeline wrote: »Am I the only one who thinks, generally speaking (not counting granola because holy calorie bomb Batman), that cereal is pretty good volume wise for the calories? I can have a giant bowl of say Cheerios for not ridiculous calories. Not saying it fills me up especially but if I want to scratch the cereal itch it's not hard to fit in.
Made the mistake of buying the two-box Costco bundle of Cheerios. Maybe had two bowls out of them. The un-opened box went to charity and the open box got tossed in the trash. I'd rather eat Styrofoam (or tide pods).
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Tacklewasher wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Am I the only one who thinks, generally speaking (not counting granola because holy calorie bomb Batman), that cereal is pretty good volume wise for the calories? I can have a giant bowl of say Cheerios for not ridiculous calories. Not saying it fills me up especially but if I want to scratch the cereal itch it's not hard to fit in.
Made the mistake of buying the two-box Costco bundle of Cheerios. Maybe had two bowls out of them. The un-opened box went to charity and the open box got tossed in the trash. I'd rather eat Styrofoam (or tide pods).
But to each their own.
I went for Cheerios because a lot of my favourites would be unrecognisable to the American majority here. I post with the international nature of the forums in mind. I'm good like that. In reality I don't so Cheerios, I go for far more exciting aimed at kids cereal!0 -
midlomel1971 wrote: »I eat cereal every single morning. The same exact thing - 1 1/2 cups of original Cheerios, 1 banana cut up on it and 1 cup skim milk. I measure it out too.
I wish I could eat pizza for breakfast every day. Or every meal for that matter. It's almost impossible for me to eat a normal serving of pizza though. It's a trigger food, for sure.
Yep. I could eat 4 large slices for dinner, then be back down in an hour or so grabbing one or two more. It's my favorite food, but unfortunately I have no self control when it comes to pizza.
I did pick up a little mini pizza from MOD pizza last week. That worked out ok as there weren't any additional slices in the fridge to get into afterwards
Pizza for me = not meeting my calorie goal for the day
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I’d argue against that and in favor of cereal being in all around healthier choice for mornings or afternoons. What do you think pizza is? I’m not being funny here. Really think about it. You have meat, tomato sauce and bread that is most often not whole wheat. The carbs from the bread alone cause a big insulin spike because carbs convert to sugar. Yeah.. the thing you said was bad about cereal is actually in pizza. Sugar is a tricky beast that you must out smart. It’s in the tomato sauce too btw. Here’s what you can do. Adding cinnamon to cereal mimics insulin in the body and helps lower the odds of a spike from the sugar. I don't recommend sugary cereals but at least with cereal you have options. Ever eaten whole wheat pizza? Me either.
Now the meat is a totally different avenue. If you eat meat for breakfast your body will need quite a few hours to digest that. Plan on eating soon after? That may not be a big concern to some but cereal has more flexibility. Chose bran cereals or whole wheat types for the fiber value. OVERALL. Cereal is the better choice to ensure you start and end your day right, fortifying your body with nutrients.22 -
billym2018 wrote: »I’d argue against that and in favor of cereal being in all around healthier choice for mornings or afternoons. What do you think pizza is? I’m not being funny here. Really think about it. You have meat, tomato sauce and bread that is most often not whole wheat. The carbs from the bread alone cause a big insulin spike because carbs convert to sugar. Yeah.. the thing you said was bad about cereal is actually in pizza. Sugar is a tricky beast that you must out smart. It’s in the tomato sauce too btw. Here’s what you can do. Adding cinnamon to cereal mimics insulin in the body and helps lower the odds of a spike from the sugar. I don't recommend sugary cereals but at least with cereal you have options. Ever eaten whole wheat pizza? Me either.
Now the meat is a totally different avenue. If you eat meat for breakfast your body will need quite a few hours to digest that. Plan on eating soon after? That may not be a big concern to some but cereal has more flexibility. Chose bran cereals or whole wheat types for the fiber value. OVERALL. Cereal is the better choice to ensure you start and end your day right, fortifying your body with nutrients.
You do realise cereal is almost exclusively carbs right?
Wait, I missed the cinnamon nonsense. Well, almost all of it is nonsense but the cinnamon one is a new level of nonsense.10 -
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billym2018 wrote: »I’d argue against that and in favor of cereal being in all around healthier choice for mornings or afternoons. What do you think pizza is? I’m not being funny here. Really think about it. You have meat, tomato sauce and bread that is most often not whole wheat. The carbs from the bread alone cause a big insulin spike because carbs convert to sugar. Yeah.. the thing you said was bad about cereal is actually in pizza. Sugar is a tricky beast that you must out smart. It’s in the tomato sauce too btw. Here’s what you can do. Adding cinnamon to cereal mimics insulin in the body and helps lower the odds of a spike from the sugar. I don't recommend sugary cereals but at least with cereal you have options. Ever eaten whole wheat pizza? Me either.
Now the meat is a totally different avenue. If you eat meat for breakfast your body will need quite a few hours to digest that. Plan on eating soon after? That may not be a big concern to some but cereal has more flexibility. Chose bran cereals or whole wheat types for the fiber value. OVERALL. Cereal is the better choice to ensure you start and end your day right, fortifying your body with nutrients.
I will never understand the panic over a perfectly normal physiological response to food experienced by metabolically healthy people.
Most of us don't need to worry about these things.
Now, do you understand the function of insulin in healthy individuals? It unlocks cells to allow glucose into them. That's all. It doesn't "do" anything. It's a key. Nothing more.
Cinnamon? Is a flavoring. It doesn't unlock cells to allow glucose into them.7 -
I eat cereal with orange juice *ducks*
I will never, ever understand the demonisation of pizza - Sure, it's bread. Just bread. If it has sugar in it (which many bread doughs don't), it's a starter amount to get the yeast off to a good start. The carbs in pizza dough get processed the same way as carbs in cereal (pro tip - all carbs convert to glucose).
Then sauce, meat, cheese, veggies...
Even if the sauce does have sugar in it, it's not "tricky" or hiding, its an ingredient. People have been putting sugar into canned tomato sauce for as long as they've been canning things. Depends whose Nonna you get the recipe from sure, but *shrug*, its just an ingredient.
Meat, cheese, veggies... Pizza is actually an all around well balanced meal (if you order it that way, I suppose).5 -
billym2018 wrote: »I’d argue against that and in favor of cereal being in all around healthier choice for mornings or afternoons. What do you think pizza is?
I'm pretty familiar with what it is, I make it at home sometimes. (I also like restaurant pizza, though, especially some local Italian places.I’m not being funny here. Really think about it. You have meat, tomato sauce and bread that is most often not whole wheat.
Mine doesn't have meat, I mostly don't like meat on pizza even when I'm eating meat, but actually that's one reason pizza can be harder (for me) to fit in, as it's lower protein than my usual meals.
Other than that it typically has wheat flour (I use whole wheat when making it at home, but it's not that big a difference), tomato sauce, some olive oil, some cheese, and (the ones I make AND the ones I order) plenty of vegetables. I might have a side salad too (although not when having it for breakfast).
Not really any different from pasta (except I tend to add a big more protein to pasta and less cheese).
Re the cereal comparison: more vegetables, more fat, both have carbs. More calories, but you can compensate by having fewer calories later. Even if I didn't hate cold cereal (and as covered above, I do, I don't understand how anyone can enjoy it), it would be a bad meal for me, as it's not got a variety of macros and a single bowl would be lower cal than I like for breakfast (I'm assuming milk, but still, and also I don't like to use calories on milk).The carbs from the bread alone cause a big insulin spike because carbs convert to sugar. Yeah.. the thing you said was bad about cereal is actually in pizza.
Who is "you"? And yeah, of course both have carbs, carbs aren't actually bad. (Cereal can be all starchy carbs or a combo of starch and sugar -- what would make it bad for me (in addition to me not liking it) is that it's mostly carbs. Pizza has fat and protein.Sugar is a tricky beast that you must out smart.
Oh?It’s in the tomato sauce too btw.
Tomatoes, like fruit and veg in general, have sugar, yeah. So? (I'm assuming homemade tomato sauce, as I use and any good restaurant would use, but frankly the sugar in jarred sauce thing is way oversold anyway -- tomatoes have sugar and they might add a bit additional but you can find ones where that is at minimum, I understand.)Here’s what you can do. Adding cinnamon to cereal mimics insulin in the body and helps lower the odds of a spike from the sugar. I don't recommend sugary cereals but at least with cereal you have options. Ever eaten whole wheat pizza? Me either.
Yeah, I eat it all the time. (It's not much different nutrition-wise, but I like it, and like whole wheat pasta with a spicy tomato sauce and olives -- both of which I typically use on pizza -- too.
You are way more scared of insulin spikes than I think most people need to be, btw. Insulin isn't evil, it helps with muscle building, but if you eat mixed macro meals that include protein, fat, and fiber, no real concern about "spikes" anyway, at least not for most.If you eat meat for breakfast your body will need quite a few hours to digest that. Plan on eating soon after?
What?
I mean, I don't generally eat soon after a meal, why would I? I like meals that fill me up until the next meal. But this idea that you can't eat right after having meat is confusing. What if I eat meat WITH something? How did I lose weight frequently eating dessert after dinner (I ate meat at dinner)?
I am limiting meat currently due to my own ethical issues with it, but when dieting I had meat with breakfast quite a lot -- smoked salmon with a vegetable omelet. Who knew that was bad?Cereal is the better choice to ensure you start and end your day right, fortifying your body with nutrients.
What if you hate cold cereal and consider it a waste of calories? Still a good choice?
Also, I seriously doubt anyone has pizza as their regular normal breakfast, I think you took this too literally.3 -
I eat leftover pizza for breakfast!1
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Alatariel75 wrote: »I eat cereal with orange juice *ducks*
I will never, ever understand the demonisation of pizza - Sure, it's bread. Just bread. If it has sugar in it (which many bread doughs don't), it's a starter amount to get the yeast off to a good start. The carbs in pizza dough get processed the same way as carbs in cereal (pro tip - all carbs convert to glucose).
Then sauce, meat, cheese, veggies...
Even if the sauce does have sugar in it, it's not "tricky" or hiding, its an ingredient. People have been putting sugar into canned tomato sauce for as long as they've been canning things. Depends whose Nonna you get the recipe from sure, but *shrug*, its just an ingredient.
Meat, cheese, veggies... Pizza is actually an all around well balanced meal (if you order it that way, I suppose).
Sugar. 1 teaspoon full (~20kcal for a 4 serving portion...). Balances out the slight acidity of the tomatoes. Add a touch of oregano. Heavenly!1 -
billym2018 wrote: »I’d argue against that and in favor of cereal being in all around healthier choice for mornings or afternoons. What do you think pizza is? I’m not being funny here. Really think about it. You have meat, tomato sauce and bread that is most often not whole wheat. The carbs from the bread alone cause a big insulin spike because carbs convert to sugar. Yeah.. the thing you said was bad about cereal is actually in pizza. Sugar is a tricky beast that you must out smart. It’s in the tomato sauce too btw. Here’s what you can do. Adding cinnamon to cereal mimics insulin in the body and helps lower the odds of a spike from the sugar. I don't recommend sugary cereals but at least with cereal you have options. Ever eaten whole wheat pizza? Me either.
Now the meat is a totally different avenue. If you eat meat for breakfast your body will need quite a few hours to digest that. Plan on eating soon after? That may not be a big concern to some but cereal has more flexibility. Chose bran cereals or whole wheat types for the fiber value. OVERALL. Cereal is the better choice to ensure you start and end your day right, fortifying your body with nutrients.
Very little of this makes sense.
Cereal is almost exclusively carbs, so I’m not sure why you are suggesting that as a better choice while in the same paragraph demonizing carbs and sugar (which don’t need to be demonized).
Most people don’t have issues with insulin spikes, especially if they eat sensibly.
You say cereal has lots of options but assume that every pizza is the same? That’s ridiculous.
I don’t understand the issue about meat at all. Why is some sausage, ham or bacon going to take me hours to digest, and why would I want to eat right after eating breakfast. Isn’t that kind of the point of eating a meal - to fill you up for a while until your next meal?
All that said - I don’t like pizza for breakfast, or cereal that much. I prefer a breakfast sandwich - which has bread, meat, and cheese. I’m not even sure how I’m still alive.6
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