April 2018 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    @marisap2010 - good luck tomorrow! Maybe resting a few days will pay off tomorrow!
    @shanaber - I’m learning that adding in as much strength training as I want to do is definitely impacting my miles for both running and cycling. You have to double up on days, which I see you are doing too! :)
    @katharmonic - Oh gosh - Your story made me laugh - not at you - freezing outside wet with no bra, but just the way you described it. Glad they were fast!

    Regarding the Strava privacy policies - thanks @7lenny7 . I hadn't checked my privacy settings in a while and just updated them. One thing that always kind of bugged me about Strava is the "fly bys". On the one hand it's cool if you pass someone and you wonder if you know them, you can look them up later. But then I always think what if someone is just sitting around with Strava on and waiting to see the "fly bys" and look at their patterns. I didn't remember that we could turn off Fly Bys until I checked today.

    Rest day for me today. Tomorrow is a programming competition so no cycling. Will have to get up early to run because I have to leave the house pretty early to get there. Last programming competition of this school year and the end of my dynasty. The senior boy I teach who has won everything the last 3 years is graduating and going to MIT next year.

    4/1 - 3.65 miles to Buckingham Palace, + strength training W9-B
    4/2 -Tabatas in the hotel gym
    4/3 - 5 miles Hyde Park
    4/4 - strength training + 1 mile treadmill
    4/5 - 5 miles Hyde Park - last day in London
    4/6 - rest/travel day
    4/7 - 4 miles on treadmill
    4/8 - 25 miles cycling + strength training W9-C
    4/9 - 5 miles
    4/10 - strength training w9-D
    4/11 - 5 miles + strength training W10-A
    4/12 - 5 miles
    4/13 - rest day!
    4/14 - 43 miles cycling
    4/15 - 40 miles cycling + strength training W10-B
    4/16 - 3 miles + strength training W10-C
    4/17 - 5 miles
    4/18 - strength training w10-D
    4/19 - 4 miles + strength training W11-A
    4/20 - Rest Day


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  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    edited April 2018
    Cool story from Boston Marathon!
    http://www.runnersworld.com/training/a19862759/sportsmanship-desiree-linden-boston-marathon
  • cburke8909
    cburke8909 Posts: 990 Member
    Easy 8 long run Saturday. @PastorVincent it took me some time to realize that you set high sights but approach the realities whith a more conservative and safe approach. Long live the dreamer in you.
  • cburke8909
    cburke8909 Posts: 990 Member

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  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
    edited April 2018
    @7lenny7 crazy how much the temperature changes this time of the year once the sun goes down! I went cycling Wednesday evening, started out in a short-sleeved shirt half an hour before sunset. Half an hour after sunset I had to put on the long-sleeved fleece I brought, and very soon after I was wishing for gloves too... Amazing that zou are already back up to running 10mi now, so shortly after Zumbro!

    @MobyCarp Congratulations!!! You ran an amazing race in Boston!

    @ddmom0811 @shanaber I'm currently still trying to find the best way to combine running and strength training (plus life in general B) ) I like my new "Fitnessblender Strong" training plan, but I have to admit I cannot realistically hope to have 2x lower body, 2x upper body, 1x core, 1x "recovery/stretching" workout, 2x climbing, 4-5x running and 1-2x cycling per week. At least not without quitting my job :wink:

    @shanaber @7lenny7 As far as I know, the "enhanced privacy" on Strava only hides the activity from her profile page. If she shows up on any leader boards or flybys, people can still click on the activity link if it is public at all!!
    I found this out last year when I guy from work suddenly knew about hikes or bike rides I had done, even when I ignored his follow request on Strava. Your profile page will still show when you got a new PR. If people really want to put in the effort to be a creepy stalker, they can look for that segment on Strava, search the leader board for your name, and go to the activity page from there. There will be some information hidden (like the time of day when you did the activity), but you can still see the run/ride. You have to add the tickmark at "hide from segment leaderboards" for the activity as well to avoid that.

    --

    Work has been crazy last week again! I didn't get any chance to post here at all, but at least I did squeeze in a bit of time for exercise.

    Sat, 4/14/2018 - 15.7km run, 30min FBStrong recovery workout
    Sun, 4/15/2018 - rest day!
    Mon, 4/16/2018 - 4.5km (am) + 9.4km (pm) cycling , 44min FBStrong lower body
    Tue, 4/17/2018 - 6.2km run, 42 min FBStrong upper body
    Wed, 4/18/2018 - 5.2km (am) + 25km (pm) cycling
    Thu, 4/19/2018 - 2x 5.7km cycling with a bit of indoor climbing in between (not very motivated), 30min FBStrong core+HIIT (still not feeling very motivated)

    Not enough running, as you can see; and this weekend I have to travel to the birthday on an uncle. Leaving super early on Saturday morning... So I will have to go running tonight, no matter what else happens!
  • Teresa502
    Teresa502 Posts: 1,875 Member
    edited April 2018
    A bit cooler this morning (28F) but it felt good after getting going. I ran from my office parking lot and it was a fairly flat out and back for 5 miles.

    Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I know I saw at least two people running 5k races. Have fun!

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  • noblsheep
    noblsheep Posts: 593 Member
    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    @ddmom0811 @shanaber I'm currently still trying to find the best way to combine running and strength training (plus life in general B) ) I like my new "Fitnessblender Strong" training plan, but I have to admit I cannot realistically hope to have 2x lower body, 2x upper body, 1x core, 1x "recovery/stretching" workout, 2x climbing, 4-5x running and 1-2x cycling per week. At least not without quitting my job :wink:

    Gah, same here. I'm doing weights every other day, plus cycling 4x, plus running whenever the weather allows. Just a thought, have you thought about combining all the weight training into two or three full body workouts? Might save some time. :D
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    I was going to run after work yesterday (early morning would not have worked) but we have been having some major wind. The haze/pollution was awful and I was out of breath just walking to the mail box SO...I skipped it.

    Trail 6K tomorrow. New for me route.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    RE: Strength training

    It is hard to fit it all in plus work full time plus fill-in-the-blank we have to do. I just finished a strength based cycle and will now focus on marathon training. I plan to fit in two days of strength. Haven't decided if I do two full body days or do one day upper and one day lower. Plus core. Can't forget the core.
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    RunsOnEspresso wrote: »
    So I started reading 80/20 Running. I decided to make this my "slow week" that he mentioned early on. I didn't set up my Garmin yet so when I went out tonight I purely watched my Garmin HR zone, not my pace or distance.

    First off, holy *kitten* that was hard to go that slow! Also, I had to actually walk a few times to keep in the Garmin easy zone. And my running? Well, that was slower than I walk. I ended at 2.25 miles in 36 minutes (16:40 pace) and an average 144 HR. Please tell me that this gets easier/faster? I will trust the process but I struggle going slow.

    I have decided I am either really out of shape or doing something wrong. I will keep reading my book and trying to monitor my HR. My alarm is set for 4 am for Wednesday and Thursday. Friday will be a rest day and Saturday I have a 6k trail race.

    I'm still catching up on this thread, lol, but had to comment on this. I just started 80/20 on Wed, we can be 80/20 newbie buddies :D And yeah, it's definitely a struggle. I'm really not used to going so slow! Last night I did foundation run 3, which was 5 min zone 1, 20 min zone 2, 5 min zone 1. The first two chunks were fine but it was definitely a struggle to get back into zone 1 for the last 5 min, especially since that part of my route trends slightly uphill.

    These are the zones that I worked out for myself using the book. I think I managed to get back down to 143 by the end of my final 5 min in zone 1, lol. I still need to figure out how to get them into Garmin and then actually use the zones in my Garmin, lol. Gotta do some research.

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  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Group question.

    How long is it before you order a new chest strap, when you can't find the old one after being on recovery for 12 weeks?

    I'm thinking hours.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited April 2018
    @noblsheep @shanaber @lporter229 @_nikkiwolf_ and any others doing weights (@whatmerunning).

    I need to do weights. (Lots of Flappin , and no action). I'm going to phone the doc and see if I can do any weights, and if so schedule time with a trainer.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    edited April 2018
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    RunsOnEspresso wrote: »
    So I started reading 80/20 Running. I decided to make this my "slow week" that he mentioned early on. I didn't set up my Garmin yet so when I went out tonight I purely watched my Garmin HR zone, not my pace or distance.

    First off, holy *kitten* that was hard to go that slow! Also, I had to actually walk a few times to keep in the Garmin easy zone. And my running? Well, that was slower than I walk. I ended at 2.25 miles in 36 minutes (16:40 pace) and an average 144 HR. Please tell me that this gets easier/faster? I will trust the process but I struggle going slow.

    I have decided I am either really out of shape or doing something wrong. I will keep reading my book and trying to monitor my HR. My alarm is set for 4 am for Wednesday and Thursday. Friday will be a rest day and Saturday I have a 6k trail race.

    I'm still catching up on this thread, lol, but had to comment on this. I just started 80/20 on Wed, we can be 80/20 newbie buddies :D And yeah, it's definitely a struggle. I'm really not used to going so slow! Last night I did foundation run 3, which was 5 min zone 1, 20 min zone 2, 5 min zone 1. The first two chunks were fine but it was definitely a struggle to get back into zone 1 for the last 5 min, especially since that part of my route trends slightly uphill.

    These are the zones that I worked out for myself using the book. I think I managed to get back down to 143 by the end of my final 5 min in zone 1, lol. I still need to figure out how to get them into Garmin and then actually use the zones in my Garmin, lol. Gotta do some research.

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    I am going to really do the workouts starting 4/30. I just played around a bit because I've got vacation this coming week.

    I cannot tell you were to find the heart rate zones because I can never find it, even when I follow their directions! I just have to keep clicking until it appears. Found it! You have to go to the device settings and then there is a User Settings tab. It's under that (on the web, app I'm not sure)

    My HR zones are lower than that. I was thinking of redoing my lactate threshold run and my math. LOL

    This is what I entered in Garmin:
    Zone 1 115
    Zone 2 131
    Zone 3 154
    Zone 4 164
    Zone 5 171
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @elise4270 - I would just order the new strap. If you find the old one you can always just have a spare and alternate between them.
    Doing weights is great - other than being sore for a day or two afterwards I love it, love how it makes me feel and love being strong. It catches people off guard and I love the look on their faces when I lift something heavy - at the gym or at a store :) I do recommend working with a trainer at least initially - for the incentive and to make sure you are getting the form down correctly. You need to be patient with it and go at it slowly (just like getting back to running). It takes time to build up the strength and start seeing results. @ddmom0811 - worked with a trainer for a while I think and now she trains herself. She may have some recommendations on the programs she uses and what she liked or didn't.
  • Teerai
    Teerai Posts: 243 Member
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  • AmyOutOfControl
    AmyOutOfControl Posts: 1,425 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @noblsheep @shanaber @lporter229 @_nikkiwolf_ and any others doing weights (@whatmerunning).

    I need to do weights. (Lots of Flappin , and no action). I'm going to phone the doc and see if I can do any weights, and if so schedule time with a trainer.

    @Elise4270 I went in with a friend and hired a personal trainer for 6 weeks of weight / strength training sessions. It really did make a huge difference — both in my running and the way my clothes fit. She gave us several workouts to do 2x a week.

    I actually really hate strength training workouts in the gym. I have to force myself to do them by reminding myself of the benefits.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    RunsOnEspresso wrote: »
    RE: Strength training

    It is hard to fit it all in plus work full time plus fill-in-the-blank we have to do. I just finished a strength based cycle and will now focus on marathon training. I plan to fit in two days of strength. Haven't decided if I do two full body days or do one day upper and one day lower. Plus core. Can't forget the core.

    If you only plan on two days, full body is probably better. Each muscle group optimally should be hit twice a week minimum. Also you don't need a dedicated core program if you are doing heavy compound lifts with free weights - compound lifts active your core more than most supposed "core" movements. But if you really want to crank your core up to eleven, try an ab roller - because it's an extension exercise instead of a contraction exercise it's more in line with how your core is supposed to work, it costs eight dollars at Walmart and fits in a carry-on, and it will make grown men cry.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    rheddmobile wrote: »
    RunsOnEspresso wrote: »
    RE: Strength training

    It is hard to fit it all in plus work full time plus fill-in-the-blank we have to do. I just finished a strength based cycle and will now focus on marathon training. I plan to fit in two days of strength. Haven't decided if I do two full body days or do one day upper and one day lower. Plus core. Can't forget the core.

    If you only plan on two days, full body is probably better. Each muscle group optimally should be hit twice a week minimum. Also you don't need a dedicated core program if you are doing heavy compound lifts with free weights - compound lifts active your core more than most supposed "core" movements. But if you really want to crank your core up to eleven, try an ab roller - because it's an extension exercise instead of a contraction exercise it's more in line with how your core is supposed to work, it costs eight dollars at Walmart and fits in a carry-on, and it will make grown men cry.

    Hahaha! Oh I gotta get one!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    @elise4270 - I would just order the new strap. If you find the old one you can always just have a spare and alternate between them.
    Doing weights is great - other than being sore for a day or two afterwards I love it, love how it makes me feel and love being strong. It catches people off guard and I love the look on their faces when I lift something heavy - at the gym or at a store :) I do recommend working with a trainer at least initially - for the incentive and to make sure you are getting the form down correctly. You need to be patient with it and go at it slowly (just like getting back to running). It takes time to build up the strength and start seeing results. @ ddmom0811 - worked with a trainer for a while I think and now she trains herself. She may have some recommendations on the programs she uses and what she liked or didn't.

    Last time I did weights, thought I start that 5x5 strong lifts program. I couldn't walk for a week. So sore. Couldn't even go run I was so sore. It'll take me some time to work up to 2 days a week. Unless I get smart and cut the weight back (or suck it up).

    You see people that have "worked out" for years and they don't look any different? That'll be me, if I don't have a plan, or help.

    I'ma call the doc and ask. I can do upper body, but then I can just go swim with my paddles... Which I've slacked on lately. :blush:
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    rheddmobile wrote: »
    RunsOnEspresso wrote: »
    RE: Strength training

    It is hard to fit it all in plus work full time plus fill-in-the-blank we have to do. I just finished a strength based cycle and will now focus on marathon training. I plan to fit in two days of strength. Haven't decided if I do two full body days or do one day upper and one day lower. Plus core. Can't forget the core.

    If you only plan on two days, full body is probably better. Each muscle group optimally should be hit twice a week minimum. Also you don't need a dedicated core program if you are doing heavy compound lifts with free weights - compound lifts active your core more than most supposed "core" movements. But if you really want to crank your core up to eleven, try an ab roller - because it's an extension exercise instead of a contraction exercise it's more in line with how your core is supposed to work, it costs eight dollars at Walmart and fits in a carry-on, and it will make grown men cry.

    My core needs more work. I already have an ab roller. I've been doing strength training in various ways since high school.
  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,881 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    @elise4270 - I would just order the new strap. If you find the old one you can always just have a spare and alternate between them.
    Doing weights is great - other than being sore for a day or two afterwards I love it, love how it makes me feel and love being strong. It catches people off guard and I love the look on their faces when I lift something heavy - at the gym or at a store :) I do recommend working with a trainer at least initially - for the incentive and to make sure you are getting the form down correctly. You need to be patient with it and go at it slowly (just like getting back to running). It takes time to build up the strength and start seeing results. @ddmom0811 - worked with a trainer for a while I think and now she trains herself. She may have some recommendations on the programs she uses and what she liked or didn't.

    Elise, I will send you the training plan I am using now. I just don't know what I'm doing when it ends in 2 weeks!
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Group question.

    How long is it before you order a new chest strap, when you can't find the old one after being on recovery for 12 weeks?

    I'm thinking hours.

    My watch does optical HR (Garmin Fenix 3 HR), but I've been thinking for awhile about getting a chest strap because:
    1. Greater HR accuracy.
    2. If I get the Garmin HR Run, there are additional data points that I can use as well.

    I'm not sure why I've been reluctant so spend $100 on this since I am spending $300+ just on race fees this year (and not even that many races!) plus about as much or more on hotels for out of town races.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited April 2018
    midwesterner85 wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Group question.

    How long is it before you order a new chest strap, when you can't find the old one after being on recovery for 12 weeks?

    I'm thinking hours.

    My watch does optical HR (Garmin Fenix 3 HR), but I've been thinking for awhile about getting a chest strap because:
    1. Greater HR accuracy.
    2. If I get the Garmin HR Run, there are additional data points that I can use as well.

    I'm not sure why I've been reluctant so spend $100 on this since I am spending $300+ just on race fees this year (and not even that many races!) plus about as much or more on hotels for out of town races.

    Mine does the optical HR too, Fenix 5S. I love all the additional metrics for me to compare and see how the numbers jive with how the run felt.


    A coworker got behind today so I'm jumping in... No time to order one :cry: . Maybe when I'm in San Antonio Monday I can just buy one from somewhere and not have to wait for it. I plan on a few TM run while there.

    Haven't called docs office either... Dang co-workers.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    ddmom0811 wrote: »
    shanaber wrote: »
    @elise4270 - I would just order the new strap. If you find the old one you can always just have a spare and alternate between them.
    Doing weights is great - other than being sore for a day or two afterwards I love it, love how it makes me feel and love being strong. It catches people off guard and I love the look on their faces when I lift something heavy - at the gym or at a store :) I do recommend working with a trainer at least initially - for the incentive and to make sure you are getting the form down correctly. You need to be patient with it and go at it slowly (just like getting back to running). It takes time to build up the strength and start seeing results. @ddmom0811 - worked with a trainer for a while I think and now she trains herself. She may have some recommendations on the programs she uses and what she liked or didn't.

    Elise, I will send you the training plan I am using now. I just don't know what I'm doing when it ends in 2 weeks!

    Thanks!!!!
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