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How do you feel about fasting?
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LeeshaSeal - I’m not a trained nutritionist or a licensed dietician, and I’m not going to pretend to be one, but I am fairly familiar with anatomy and physiology and IF doesn’t “cleanse the body” (that’s what your liver and kidney do), rid a person of diabetes (see end statement), or reduce inflammation (which can have a multitude of explanations besides what a person eats) - eating the right foods, eating less, and exercising does. THIS is scientifically proven. I’m not bashing IF, I’m simply stating it helps restrict calorie intake.
And logic says, if I wasn’t eating for 16 hours straight, pretty sure it wasn’t the lemon in my water that made me insatiable. It was the NOT EATING.
Mate, you need to educate yourself more. What she said is 100% true and supported by numerous clinical research studies. Stop spreading nonsense, next we'll hear that vaccines are bad.
Dude, you need to educate yourself and stop reading .com sites. If you’re going to Google, I suggest Google Scholar; at least you’d have more accurate data accessible. Secondly, logically, why would you think starving yourself for several hours, or even days, would do anything but slow down your metabolism or restrict calories if done correctly?! Let’s be real here - you can’t magically cure or prevent anything just by skipping a meal (or meals). Thirdly, I don’t know what basis vaccines have in this conversation (I’m pro-vaccine by the way), but it has no bearing on this topic. So “mate”, step down unless you have actual helpful knowledge to share. Peace.
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Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well21
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Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.6 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Eating a balanced diet low in fat, sodium, and carbs does the same. It’s not specifically IF that lowers your risk of hypertension, diabetes, etc.; it’s the aforementioned that does. IF is WHEN to eat not WHAT to eat. There’s a difference.12 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Eating a balanced diet low in fat, sodium, and carbs does the same. It’s not specifically IF that lowers your risk of hypertension, diabetes, etc.; it’s the aforementioned that does. IF is WHEN to eat not WHAT to eat. There’s a difference.
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stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well14 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Eating a balanced diet low in fat, sodium, and carbs does the same. It’s not specifically IF that lowers your risk of hypertension, diabetes, etc.; it’s the aforementioned that does. IF is WHEN to eat not WHAT to eat. There’s a difference.
Yes of course, eating a balanced diet etc will do wonders for the body. As would IF, I guess there isn’t only one route to get results there are various ways and methods to achieve your body goals5 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
So None. Got it.
"I know a guy I trust and he has the studies" just doesn't carry the water.9 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
So None. Got it.
"I know a guy I trust and he has the studies" just doesn't carry the water.
It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?14 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
Why would you trust his statements more than you'd trust any statement from a writer trying to sell you a diet plan? He makes his living promoting fasting -- he hasn't ever practiced medicine. I'm not saying he's wrong (I don't know what studies he's cited in his books promoting fasting), but why would you just assume he's right?7 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
So None. Got it.
"I know a guy I trust and he has the studies" just doesn't carry the water.
It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
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Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
So None. Got it.
"I know a guy I trust and he has the studies" just doesn't carry the water.
It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
It's clear that *weight loss* works. Some people using fasting to achieve weight loss, but do you have any evidence that fasting -- in and of itself -- is doing these things?6 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
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janejellyroll wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
So None. Got it.
"I know a guy I trust and he has the studies" just doesn't carry the water.
It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
It's clear that *weight loss* works. Some people using fasting to achieve weight loss, but do you have any evidence that fasting -- in and of itself -- is doing these things?
I don’t have any evidence personally .. I do know a lot of people who lose weight via fasting .. I have Muslim friends who lose so much weight during Ramadan .. I see first hand through other people how it helps .. I don’t need to really read articles etc (I do because it’s interesting)
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stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them11 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
So I could eat 3 steaks, 4 apple pies, and 5 Baked potatoes every day and lose weight, as long as I fasted the other 22 hours of the day?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
So None. Got it.
"I know a guy I trust and he has the studies" just doesn't carry the water.
It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
It's clear that *weight loss* works. Some people using fasting to achieve weight loss, but do you have any evidence that fasting -- in and of itself -- is doing these things?
I don’t have any evidence personally .. I do know a lot of people who lose weight via fasting .. I have Muslim friends who lose so much weight during Ramadan .. I see first hand through other people how it helps .. I don’t need to really read articles etc (I do because it’s interesting)
I lived in a Muslim Country a few years ago and kept Ramadan with my Muslim friends. I neither gained nor lost weight. Neither did any of my friends.14 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
So None. Got it.
"I know a guy I trust and he has the studies" just doesn't carry the water.
It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
It's clear that *weight loss* works. Some people using fasting to achieve weight loss, but do you have any evidence that fasting -- in and of itself -- is doing these things?
I don’t have any evidence personally .. I do know a lot of people who lose weight via fasting .. I have Muslim friends who lose so much weight during Ramadan .. I see first hand through other people how it helps .. I don’t need to really read articles etc (I do because it’s interesting)
Nobody is denying that people can lose weight while fasting. It's clear that this can happen. Weight loss will happen in any situation where there is a consistent calorie deficit. That is possible (but not inevitable) when someone is fasting. It's also completely possible without ever fasting.
Your claim was that IF would improve blood pressure, cholesterol levels, and insulin sensitivity. People are asking what evidence you have to support those claims. If you are saying you don't have any evidence to support those claims, then I really don't understand why you made them.7 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
So None. Got it.
"I know a guy I trust and he has the studies" just doesn't carry the water.
It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
It's clear that *weight loss* works. Some people using fasting to achieve weight loss, but do you have any evidence that fasting -- in and of itself -- is doing these things?
I don’t have any evidence personally .. I do know a lot of people who lose weight via fasting .. I have Muslim friends who lose so much weight during Ramadan .. I see first hand through other people how it helps .. I don’t need to really read articles etc (I do because it’s interesting)
I have Muslim friends who gain weight during Ramadan. It's all in the amount of calories you intake9 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Well, that settles it.
Who needs science when you have 2nd hand testimonials from random internet posters?16 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
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Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
Fasting is seen as healthy as it does improve blood pressure etc, it’s just another route to losing weight9 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
Fasting is seen as healthy as it does improve blood pressure etc, it’s just another route to losing weight
So it's weight loss that causes all those benefits. NOT fasting?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.
Just want to be clear, because you said that it's FASTING that causes those benefits.4 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
Fasting is seen as healthy as it does improve blood pressure etc, it’s just another route to losing weight
So it's weight loss that causes all those benefits. NOT fasting?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.
Just want to be clear, because you said that it's FASTING that causes those benefits.
Yes, fasting causes the weight loss ..
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Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
Fasting is seen as healthy as it does improve blood pressure etc, it’s just another route to losing weight
So it's weight loss that causes all those benefits. NOT fasting?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.
Just want to be clear, because you said that it's FASTING that causes those benefits.
Yes, fasting causes the weight loss ..
Only if you're consuming less calories than you burn.
Fasting itself doesn't cause anything other than "causing" you to eat or not eat at certain times of the day. You lose weight via calorie deficit, however that is accomplished. The calories are what matter, not what time you eat them.10 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
So I could eat 3 steaks, 4 apple pies, and 5 Baked potatoes every day and lose weight, as long as I fasted the other 22 hours of the day?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight. I 110% think that fasting is a great way to lose weight and works well
Please link these studies, that show these benefits.
Dr Michael Mosley who wrote the “The Fast Diet” book has quoted said studies, I wouldn’t know which particular ones he is referring too but I trust his statement, it scientifically makes sense as well
So None. Got it.
"I know a guy I trust and he has the studies" just doesn't carry the water.
It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
It's clear that *weight loss* works. Some people using fasting to achieve weight loss, but do you have any evidence that fasting -- in and of itself -- is doing these things?
I don’t have any evidence personally .. I do know a lot of people who lose weight via fasting .. I have Muslim friends who lose so much weight during Ramadan .. I see first hand through other people how it helps .. I don’t need to really read articles etc (I do because it’s interesting)
I lived in a Muslim Country a few years ago and kept Ramadan with my Muslim friends. I neither gained nor lost weight. Neither did any of my friends.
Of course if you eat like an absolute pig during the hours that you can eat then it’s a no brainer that your body isn’t going to react so well. The ideal way to fast is to make sure you still maintain a healthy diet during the hours you can eat, get lots of protein in etc6 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
Fasting is seen as healthy as it does improve blood pressure etc, it’s just another route to losing weight
So it's weight loss that causes all those benefits. NOT fasting?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.
Just want to be clear, because you said that it's FASTING that causes those benefits.
Yes, fasting causes the weight loss ..
Only if you're consuming less calories than you burn.
Fasting itself doesn't cause anything other than "causing" you to eat or not eat at certain times of the day. You lose weight via calorie deficit, however that is accomplished. The calories are what matter, not what time you eat them.
Fasting causes your body to burn fat because it’s used up all of its energy supply, this is what aids the weight loss, that and keeping to a healthy diet10 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
Fasting is seen as healthy as it does improve blood pressure etc, it’s just another route to losing weight
So it's weight loss that causes all those benefits. NOT fasting?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.
Just want to be clear, because you said that it's FASTING that causes those benefits.
Yes, fasting causes the weight loss ..
Only if you're consuming less calories than you burn.
Fasting itself doesn't cause anything other than "causing" you to eat or not eat at certain times of the day. You lose weight via calorie deficit, however that is accomplished. The calories are what matter, not what time you eat them.
Fasting causes your body to burn fat because it’s used up all of its energy supply, this is what aids the weight loss, that and keeping to a healthy diet
Honestly, if you are not well versed on the physiology, it's probably best not to make these kind of blanket statements.11 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
Fasting is seen as healthy as it does improve blood pressure etc, it’s just another route to losing weight
So it's weight loss that causes all those benefits. NOT fasting?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.
Just want to be clear, because you said that it's FASTING that causes those benefits.
Yes, fasting causes the weight loss ..
Only if you're consuming less calories than you burn.
Fasting itself doesn't cause anything other than "causing" you to eat or not eat at certain times of the day. You lose weight via calorie deficit, however that is accomplished. The calories are what matter, not what time you eat them.
Fasting causes your body to burn fat because it’s used up all of its energy supply, this is what aids the weight loss, that and keeping to a healthy diet
Honestly, if you are not well versed on the physiology, it's probably best not to make these kind of blanket statements.
But it’s not a false statement, it’s just how the body works when someone is fasting15 -
FTFYMandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
Fasting is seen as healthy as it does improve blood pressure etc, it’s just another route to losing weight
So it's weight loss that causes all those benefits. NOT fasting?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.
Just want to be clear, because you said that it's FASTING that causes those benefits.
Yes, fasting causes the weight loss ..
Only if you're consuming less calories than you burn.
Fasting itself doesn't cause anything other than "causing" you to eat or not eat at certain times of the day. You lose weight via calorie deficit, however that is accomplished. The calories are what matter, not what time you eat them.
Fasting causes your body to burn fat because it’s used up all of its energy supply, this is what aids the weight loss, that and keeping to a healthy diet
Honestly, if you are not well versed on the physiology, it's probably best not to make these kind of blanket statements.
But it’s not a false statement, it’s just how the body works when someone is fasting in a caloric deficit
8 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »It’s science .. fasting works .. there’s literally nothing you can really say against it is there?
Your claim is that Fasting causes weight/fat loss regardless of deficit.
That's contrary to established science. SO, I want a reference so I can see for myself.
But I have witnessed people who are fasting lose weight, I see for myself just how much it does for them
Yea, starving yourself will do that, nobody is arguing that. But decreasing your calories, eating right, and upping your exercise will too, in a healthy way.
Fasting is seen as healthy as it does improve blood pressure etc, it’s just another route to losing weight
So it's weight loss that causes all those benefits. NOT fasting?Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Studies do show that intermittent fasting improves your blood pressure, cholesterol levels and your insulin sensitivity. When you fast your body can’t get it’s energy from food so it uses your glucose which is found in your liver and muscles, that process usually happens around 8 hours after your last meal. When that stores glucose has been used up the body then starts to burn fat to get its energy which is why you lose weight.
Just want to be clear, because you said that it's FASTING that causes those benefits.
Yes, fasting causes the weight loss ..
Only if you're consuming less calories than you burn.
Fasting itself doesn't cause anything other than "causing" you to eat or not eat at certain times of the day. You lose weight via calorie deficit, however that is accomplished. The calories are what matter, not what time you eat them.
Fasting causes your body to burn fat because it’s used up all of its energy supply, this is what aids the weight loss, that and keeping to a healthy diet
Honestly, if you are not well versed on the physiology, it's probably best not to make these kind of blanket statements.
But it’s not a false statement, it’s just how the body works when someone is fasting
It has a shade of truth mixed with a lot of misunderstanding. You admittedly are not familiar with the research and the science. So, why keep doubling down with vague blanket statements. You will only draw questions from those that are more knowledgeable that you are unequipped to answer.3
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