August 2018 Running Challenge
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workaholic_nurse wrote: »@PastorVincent Ready Player One was an awesome book...I don't think I will see the movie as it would just ruin my perceptions of it.
None of the six "challenges" except Adventure from the book are in the movie, the entire school plot was dropped, as was "H"s basement, none of the gates, battle at the castle is way truncated, Og has a much smaller role, characters swap roles, and so on. It really is a retelling more than an adaptation. If you watch it, it would be best to separate it from the book, think of it as a remake maybe.0 -
workaholic_nurse wrote: »hmmph ticker factory not updating correctly? Shows correct on their website but not on my post.
We get this question a few times each month: Short answer, check later and you will see it updated fine. It is due to the way browsers cache stuff. All is good
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1. I'm buying trail running sandals. Brands?
2. @eleanorhawkins Shin splints are often caused by too much too soon, pronation, not the right shoe, or cambored surfaces. If its medial shin splints, you can push into the sore spot where the angry attachment is, and flex your foot up and down to work that knot.
Then i think you should cross train until you can run with tolerated pain and add calf strengthening exercise.
@Elise4270 Thanks for the input! Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of too much too soon as I'm a bit of a noob, even though on paper I haven't upped my weekly mileage for over a month. I just get kind of overexcited. Shoes are fine, at least they damn well should be they were perfect at first, are only 2.5 months old and have done under 200 kilometres, and there's no sign of wear on the tread. I run on flat paths and pavements or a dirt track so don't think it's that. Don't think I pronate either. Guess I'll have to have them looked at if it continues. It's just worrying me that I'll never actually be able to run longer distances without messing my legs up. I HAVE to do the half in December even if I speed-crawl it.... my not very supportive other half first told me I was crazy to want to do it, then tried to forbid me from doing it. So, yeah, I'm doing it even if it kills me ;-)
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PastorVincent wrote: »workaholic_nurse wrote: »hmmph ticker factory not updating correctly? Shows correct on their website but not on my post.
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amymoreorless wrote: »RunsOnEspresso wrote: »So I have a fasting blood draw Monday. I am debating if I run or not. I can do a 40-minute foundation run fasted but I usually eat something after. I can't run any other time of day, too hot. Do I just take a ton of food with me and shovel it in after my blood draw? I risk getting shakey, headache, and crabby with or without the run.
@RunsOnEspresso I had a fasting blood draw for a physical 2 weeks ago. I ran a quick 5k beforehand with only black coffee to fuel me. I lived, however, my husband (who went with me because he had a physical scheduled at the same time) immediately stopped at the closest Starbucks. It made us both late however... I think he was legitimately scared of my hangry-ness.
I'm not allowed to have black coffee in the morning. Water only.
RE: Running Sandals
Many years ago I read the book Born to Run which is about the Tarahumara tribe. They run in a sandal of sorts. If you haven't read the book, I highly recommend it.1 -
8/1 - 1.5 mi
8/2 - walk
8/3 - 2 mi run w4d1 c25k
It stormed most of this morning, but eventually the heavens aligned that the skies cleared while the tiny human was still down for his nap. (He’s still running a little warm so we’re still doing lots of rest and snuggles.) I had thought I’d need to go to the gym to run, but I find myself more and more drawn outdoors to run. That’s very atypical for me. I hate to sweat and it’s 80F outside with 94% humidity...but I did it anyway.
The run felt fine, even though I don’t know if I’ve ever been so sweaty in my life. My doctor called while I was mid-run, and I was tempted to stop and pick up but I didn’t know if I would start back running again. I checked the voicemail while I cooled down - bloodwork came back excellent for the second month in a row! I’m afraid to get ahead of myself, but it seems the cancer is gone for good.
Also, random thoughts while running - in the last six months, I’ve lost 2 liters of blood during surgery, been diagnosed with cancer, hemorrhaged and ended up in the ER, had a partially collapsed lung and ended up in the ER, endured chemo...and I’ve been calm through all of it. In an actual emergency, I’m golden. During a run where I get a little hot and sweaty, that’s when I think I’m gonna die.17 -
eleanorhawkins wrote: »1. I'm buying trail running sandals. Brands?
2. @eleanorhawkins Shin splints are often caused by too much too soon, pronation, not the right shoe, or cambored surfaces. If its medial shin splints, you can push into the sore spot where the angry attachment is, and flex your foot up and down to work that knot.
Then i think you should cross train until you can run with tolerated pain and add calf strengthening exercise.
@Elise4270 Thanks for the input! Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of too much too soon as I'm a bit of a noob, even though on paper I haven't upped my weekly mileage for over a month. I just get kind of overexcited. Shoes are fine, at least they damn well should be they were perfect at first, are only 2.5 months old and have done under 200 kilometres, and there's no sign of wear on the tread. I run on flat paths and pavements or a dirt track so don't think it's that. Don't think I pronate either. Guess I'll have to have them looked at if it continues. It's just worrying me that I'll never actually be able to run longer distances without messing my legs up. I HAVE to do the half in December even if I speed-crawl it.... my not very supportive other half first told me I was crazy to want to do it, then tried to forbid me from doing it. So, yeah, I'm doing it even if it kills me ;-)
It definitely sounds like dialing back is the key, then. I am a relative newbie as well - I started late last summer and then took most of December through April off. When I first started I would stop running as soon as my shins started hurting and walk until they felt better, then repeat. I don't recall how long it took before it stopped happening, but it definitely did eventually. As for weekly mileage, it will come if you're patient! It's probably not the most useful metric of progress early on, anyhow. I ran more miles in my first month back to regular running this spring than I did in all of 2017!
There are a lot of resources out there for keeping your legs healthy while running, but in my experience strength training is probably the most helpful, so if you're not doing that already, it might be something to look into. Even bodyweight workouts can help a lot if you don't have access to a gym or want to invest in equipment right away.1 -
17.1 miles this morning. The chronic right knee issue was there to remind me to keep it slow.5
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eleanorhawkins wrote: »1. I'm buying trail running sandals. Brands?
2. @eleanorhawkins Shin splints are often caused by too much too soon, pronation, not the right shoe, or cambored surfaces. If its medial shin splints, you can push into the sore spot where the angry attachment is, and flex your foot up and down to work that knot.
Then i think you should cross train until you can run with tolerated pain and add calf strengthening exercise.
@Elise4270 Thanks for the input! Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of too much too soon as I'm a bit of a noob, even though on paper I haven't upped my weekly mileage for over a month. I just get kind of overexcited. Shoes are fine, at least they damn well should be they were perfect at first, are only 2.5 months old and have done under 200 kilometres, and there's no sign of wear on the tread. I run on flat paths and pavements or a dirt track so don't think it's that. Don't think I pronate either. Guess I'll have to have them looked at if it continues. It's just worrying me that I'll never actually be able to run longer distances without messing my legs up. I HAVE to do the half in December even if I speed-crawl it.... my not very supportive other half first told me I was crazy to want to do it, then tried to forbid me from doing it. So, yeah, I'm doing it even if it kills me ;-)
I suffered with shin splints for some time. You will get stronger and one day you'll realize that it doesn't hurt and you won't remember when that happened. Just dont give up!1 -
eleanorhawkins wrote: »1. I'm buying trail running sandals. Brands?
2. @eleanorhawkins Shin splints are often caused by too much too soon, pronation, not the right shoe, or cambored surfaces. If its medial shin splints, you can push into the sore spot where the angry attachment is, and flex your foot up and down to work that knot.
Then i think you should cross train until you can run with tolerated pain and add calf strengthening exercise.
@Elise4270 Thanks for the input! Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of too much too soon as I'm a bit of a noob, even though on paper I haven't upped my weekly mileage for over a month. I just get kind of overexcited. Shoes are fine, at least they damn well should be they were perfect at first, are only 2.5 months old and have done under 200 kilometres, and there's no sign of wear on the tread. I run on flat paths and pavements or a dirt track so don't think it's that. Don't think I pronate either. Guess I'll have to have them looked at if it continues. It's just worrying me that I'll never actually be able to run longer distances without messing my legs up. I HAVE to do the half in December even if I speed-crawl it.... my not very supportive other half first told me I was crazy to want to do it, then tried to forbid me from doing it. So, yeah, I'm doing it even if it kills me ;-)
Were you fitted for those shoes? If not you might want to see if there is a running store near you that can check your stride and footfall to make sure you have the right shoes.
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@MegaMooseEsq thanks, yeah I've only been running around a year. They don't actually start to hurt while I'm running strangely enough, it's only the afternoon/evening when they start to feel a little sore. Thinking about it the last time it happened a few weeks ago they were more painful than sore by this time, so fingers crossed today it's just post-workout ache and a rest tomorrow will sort it. I had only been doing upper body strength training until about a month ago, have now added another full body session once a week and am gradually increasing the weights. Maybe I need to add a second session but don't want to overdo it. I had been walking for an hour as cross-training on the 3 days per week I don't run. Now thinking I probably need to include a real rest day for my legs and swap that for swimming or cycling.2
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PastorVincent wrote: »eleanorhawkins wrote: »1. I'm buying trail running sandals. Brands?
2. @eleanorhawkins Shin splints are often caused by too much too soon, pronation, not the right shoe, or cambored surfaces. If its medial shin splints, you can push into the sore spot where the angry attachment is, and flex your foot up and down to work that knot.
Then i think you should cross train until you can run with tolerated pain and add calf strengthening exercise.
@Elise4270 Thanks for the input! Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of too much too soon as I'm a bit of a noob, even though on paper I haven't upped my weekly mileage for over a month. I just get kind of overexcited. Shoes are fine, at least they damn well should be they were perfect at first, are only 2.5 months old and have done under 200 kilometres, and there's no sign of wear on the tread. I run on flat paths and pavements or a dirt track so don't think it's that. Don't think I pronate either. Guess I'll have to have them looked at if it continues. It's just worrying me that I'll never actually be able to run longer distances without messing my legs up. I HAVE to do the half in December even if I speed-crawl it.... my not very supportive other half first told me I was crazy to want to do it, then tried to forbid me from doing it. So, yeah, I'm doing it even if it kills me ;-)
Were you fitted for those shoes? If not you might want to see if there is a running store near you that can check your stride and footfall to make sure you have the right shoes.
Yes I was, we were a match made in the heavenly running store :-)0 -
eleanorhawkins wrote: »@MegaMooseEsq thanks, yeah I've only been running around a year. They don't actually start to hurt while I'm running strangely enough, it's only the afternoon/evening when they start to feel a little sore. Thinking about it the last time it happened a few weeks ago they were more painful than sore by this time, so fingers crossed today it's just post-workout ache and a rest tomorrow will sort it. I had only been doing upper body strength training until about a month ago, have now added another full body session once a week and am gradually increasing the weights. Maybe I need to add a second session but don't want to overdo it. I had been walking for an hour as cross-training on the 3 days per week I don't run. Now thinking I probably need to include a real rest day for my legs and swap that for swimming or cycling.
Hah, it's so hard to tell what timeframe is involved when someone says they're new - you've probably been running longer than me! I don't know that I've ever had shin pain when I wasn't actually running, although the calves and hammies definitely started talking to me on the regular in the last month or so, and I'm in an ongoing battle to keep my knees from pooping out on me. I'm trying out two rest days a week and upping the stretching and targeted strength exercises - it's been helping the last couple of weeks at least. I do heavy full-body lifting workouts twice a week but it definitely has taken experimentation to find the right balance - I had to drop from three workouts a week to two back in May when I started running regularly again, and running the day after deadlifts is a definite no-go at this point.0 -
@eleanorhawkins just one more possible cause for shin splints...over-striding. If you can shorten your forward stride so your feet land under your hips and not in front of you, that should help reduce shin pain. The easiest way to accomplish this is to make sure your cadence is not too slow. About 170-180 steps/minute (both feet) should help get your feet to land underneath you. Just something to think about.2
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Morning all! Managed a decent sleep but still feeling in a funk. I'm going to go out, and aim for 10k but won't be too upset if I only do 6. My legs are tight and I just feel blah. Usually going for a run perks me up. Hope that happens.
As for the monthly question - nope. I tried but I just got obsessed. Its the big reason I don't track often. I get way too obsessed with the numbers and do stupid things. I'm tracking this week cause I went off the rails last week. Ate. All. The. Food. Probably the biggest reason I feel so blah5 -
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This past vacation week my macros were off the hook and totally hit my personal "sweet" spot.... Food 40%, Sex 70%, Alcohol 100%12
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LaDispute57 wrote: »
oh we got jokes now...2 -
August goal: 180 miles
Date................Miles............Total/Remaining
8/1...................Rest.............. 000.00/180.00
8/2...................Rest.............. 000.00/180.00
8/3...................Rest.............. 000.00/180.00
Upcoming Races:
August 25, 2018 Bubble Run 5K (Pittsburgh, PA)
October 20, 2018 Sinnemahone Ultra MarathonTrail Run 50K (Emporium, PA)
Just went back and double checked my training program and discovered I had to bump up my monthly goal by another 10 miles... sucks when math works against you.1 -
LaDispute57 wrote: »Upcoming Races:
August 25, 2018 Bubble Run 5K (Pittsburgh, PA)
October 20, 2018 Sinnemahone Ultra MarathonTrail Run 50K (Emporium, PA)
So is that a no on Two Face?
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Temps were still nice in the early hours, allowing for a nice easy-paced long run before work.
01 - 15.66
02 - 14.15
03 - 21.05
Total: 50.86 / 250 miles5 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »
A question I meant to ask a while ago: does anyone ever get a sensation of pressure between their shoulders after a long or hard run? It’s happened to me a couple of times now and it’s a little unsettling, though not exactly painful. The first time it happened was immediately after a longer run maybe a month ago and it actually felt like something was pushing me from behind. It only lasted a minute that time but lingered this morning.
@MegaMooseEsq
If the sensation is what I think it is, you likely were too tense in your upper body for too long while running, and your upper back is telling you about it. Try paying attention to how tense you are when you run, and deliberately relaxing when you notice yourself tensing up. Think, loose hands instead of clenched fists. (Yes, this is more of a continuum than a binary on/off.) Arms swinging freely in time with your pace, not pumping frantically. Anything else that makes psychological sense to you for relaxing and being less tense while moving.
As far as new sensations, I've been a bit sore in the lower back this week. It didn't feel hurt, just like I did too much with strength training targeting the erector spinae. After a while, I figured out it was likely from holding myself upright while running (and later walking) down ski slopes at Bristol last Saturday. Once I understood it, it stopped bothering me. A few days of normal activity, and it's fine.1 -
PastorVincent wrote: »LaDispute57 wrote: »Upcoming Races:
August 25, 2018 Bubble Run 5K (Pittsburgh, PA)
October 20, 2018 Sinnemahone Ultra MarathonTrail Run 50K (Emporium, PA)
So is that a no on Two Face?
That is not a no... Lol... I just need time to get online to register0 -
LaDispute57 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »LaDispute57 wrote: »Upcoming Races:
August 25, 2018 Bubble Run 5K (Pittsburgh, PA)
October 20, 2018 Sinnemahone Ultra MarathonTrail Run 50K (Emporium, PA)
So is that a no on Two Face?
That is not a no... Lol... I just need time to get online to register
If you show there is a slightly used bag of Berry Tailwind in it for you.
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Monthly Question?
macros. Do you target them? And where's your personal "sweet" spot?
First, let me say that I like the monthly question early in the month instead of at month end where it used to be. This way, I see more responses and people have more time to think about it and respond.
Long roundabout answer: I took off most of the weight, then became a runner. On the path to weight loss, before even starting to run, I was targeting percentages of carbs, fat, and protein. I noticed in particular that getting enough protein was key for satiety when I was losing weight. All this, before I even started running.
When I moved into weight maintenance, I initially targeted the same broad percentage ranges. Then I had a bit of history of variable activity, ranging from wearing a boot and unable to walk 10K steps per day, all the way up to rather intense marathon training peaking at 68 miles per week. That drove the total calories for weight maintenance up and down by a considerable amount. Moved from where I was to MFP because the food tracker here is easier to use, and lost the target ranges I had before. So now . . .
I target total calories per day, and adjust the level up or down when I see the number on the scale (daily weight, first thing in the morning, dehydrated, in my underwear) trend down or up. I have some standard adjustment numbers I use for how much I run. I ignore the calorie burn numbers MFP uses, and use my own calorie goal instead of the canned goal MFP puts out.
I target a minimum of 150 grams of protein and 60 grams of fat each day. I don't worry about carbs, I always get enough of those. In heavy marathon training, when the calorie need goes up there, I try to stay around 50 grams of fiber; if I get up to 60 grams, my body tells me about it. Being told about it in the middle of a long run isn't much fun. Being told about it in the middle of a race is not acceptable, so I deliberately eat less fiber (and hence, more processed carbs) the day before a half or the 3 days before a marathon.
Total calorie number not disclosed, but let's just say that it's pretty generous when I'm in marathon training.4 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »
A question I meant to ask a while ago: does anyone ever get a sensation of pressure between their shoulders after a long or hard run? It’s happened to me a couple of times now and it’s a little unsettling, though not exactly painful. The first time it happened was immediately after a longer run maybe a month ago and it actually felt like something was pushing me from behind. It only lasted a minute that time but lingered this morning.
Missed this until I saw @MobyCarp 's great reply. Yes, it has happened to me. Things that I know first hand that cause it:
1) Too much tension in your back. Relax!
2) Too much tension in your arms. Relax!
3) Running hunched over
4) Running face down.
5) Weak core muscles
Try these things...
1) RELAX
2) lift up your chin as you run and look more forward instead of down
3) RELAX
4) Push your shoulders a little back
5) RELAX
6) Lean forward at the waist no the next
7) RELAX
8) Do not forget to breathe!
9) RELAX
10) ETA: Make sure your arms swing straight forward and are not crossing in front of you.
At least do the odd ones...
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Happy Birthday @AprilRN10 and @quilteryoyo!!
@eleanorhawkins - Welcome! Love your profile picture so much I saved it! What @elise4270 said about shin splints! I would also add doing some calf stretches or rolling them out on a foam roller as tight calves can often result in shin pain.
@skippygirlsmom - I can't get over how grown up the Skippygirl is! Fantastic find on the bike!
@RunsOnEspresso - I always take a coffee with me when I have those fasting tests along with a bar or something to eat right afterwards. That tides me over until I can get real food!
@MegaMooseEsq - I was going to say what @mobycarp said... @skippygirlsmom told us a while back that the Skip's coach told her to think about carrying potato chips in your hands and you don't want them to break. In my case they would be soggy but you get the idea When I feel my shoulders tensing my posture is typically off too so I try to square my shoulders and squeeze my shoulder blades down and back like when doing lat pulldowns or something similar.
Date........Miles.......Total
08/01......0.00.......0.00
08/02......3.85.......3.85 - +Strength Training
08/03......5.62.......9.47
My completed and upcoming races. Let me know if you will be running them too.
02/04/18 - Surf City Half Marathon
05/05/18 - Cinco de Miles 5k
07/22/18 - San Francisco 2nd Half Marathon
12/15/18 - San Diego Holiday Half Marathon
02/03/19 - Surf City Half Marathon
05/11/19 - Santa Barbara Wine Country Half Marathon2 -
No run tonight, more unpacking. Yay!3
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