August 2018 Running Challenge
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Thanks all for the bday wishes!
@quilteryoyo happy bday to you!3 -
dreamer12151 wrote: »But the other day I shook my head as I saw a lady geared up and running....in...sandals. Just thought "Better her feet than mine".
My former statistics professor runs barefoot. She mentioned it one day in class and I guess I must have had a look of disbelief on my face becsuse she invited me to go with her on her lunch time run. I couldn't believe it even though I was right next to her. We even ran down by the Schuylkill on a gravel path! She swears her joints aren't affected by the lack of support from a pair of shoes.
That woman is tough.
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cburke8909 wrote: »@PastorVincent movie first, book second
Or just set realistic expectations. Sometimes you need to remember that the director is using the source his own way and to appreciate what they have done. Stanley Kubrics interpretation of "The Shining" isn't a very good representation of the book but its cinnematic artistry at a very high level.
Excellent point. I also like seeing how some books are interpreted into a film like We Need to Talk About Kevin. Both were great and I enjoyed seeing the choices the filmmakers went with. (I don't want to give away anything so this is very vague).2 -
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RunsOnEspresso wrote: »So I have a fasting blood draw Monday. I am debating if I run or not. I can do a 40-minute foundation run fasted but I usually eat something after. I can't run any other time of day, too hot. Do I just take a ton of food with me and shovel it in after my blood draw? I risk getting shakey, headache, and crabby with or without the run.
I wouldn't run till after the blood draw, for fear of doing something to skew the results. Assuming it's just a draw for tests and not donating a unit to the Red Cross, you can run after the draw. It's up to you whether you think you'll do better eating after the blood draw and before running, or running fasted.
Assuming the blood draw is as soon as they open, it might still be cool enough for a run, though perhaps shorter than your usual run. If time till it gets too hot is a concern, food needs to be quick. I'd be thinking a banana, run, then have real breakfast given a requirement to run before the day warms up too much.
@runsonespresso I agree with waiting until after the blood test to run. I'm a bit different (because I don't eat carbs and my muscles are adapted to oxidize fat at higher exertion levels than mosr), so maybe this is a bigger issue for me, but my blood test results are skewed if I go in after exercise. From the best I can tell with the data I can obtain myself, I transfer about 2-3 lbs. worth of fat into my blood when I go out for a run. I use only a part of that and then the remaining fat eventually will return to adipose tissue through re-esterification. However, when blood is drawn shortly after a run, I believe triglycerides will be artificially high as well as possibly some other stuff. Most of what is in my blood after a run is probably free fatty acids and not triglycerides, but I would still be concerned. I made this mistake once and had some higher than expected results, but not astronomical. However, I recall watching the blood fill the vials and could clearly see fat in my blood. It was like oil and water / oil and blood... there was so much that it really stood out.1 -
@skippygirlsmom Great pic of Skip - running shoes and running watch - never leave the house without the essentials. The bike looks great for being a garage stash. Hope she has a decent lock as Bikes are high theft items at campus - quite often they magically return after a few days - I picture another student needing a quick trip home to get there books-pc etc. so they grab and go.Re-learning an old lesson: The worst people to run with are runners who are just a little faster than I am. It's easy to let the really fast people go, but the ones who are just a little faster suck me into running faster than I should, to the detriment of my workout.
@MobyCarp Oh so true - that why so many people get pulled off plan at races - the surge at the start and the feeling of I can stay with person X. Ironically set my 10k Pb last summer pulling another runner for 4 km before she dropped and then just kept myself in a "catch the next athlete" pace. Of course it was a perfect day - low humidity, slight cross breeze and 60-65F.
Like everyone else the heat has been beating me up. It'e either scorching 90F or 50F with sheets of rain - no happy medium. Unfortunately for our little club/community we have had 4 people move away this year - to take new jobs or retire. 2 of them were my "Pace Matchs" so not only did I lose 2 friends but 2 runners who helped push each other. Sort of in a group of 1 now - not fast enough to stay with the zoomers and too fast for others, so I find myself slowing down to join the next group.3 -
8/1/18 2.65 miles
8/2/18 3.1 miles
8/3/18 3.1 miles
Total 8.85 /100-115
I had to rearrange my runs this weekend. Today was supposed to be speedwork but since I am moving my long run to Saturday, I went with Saturday's foundation run today. I will attempt the shorter speedwork on Sunday. I ran my usual route the opposite way this morning. My brain is starting to ruminate on some thoughts so I needed to break up routines. Yay anxiety/ocd.2 -
@RunsOnEspresso i found this website to change things up. you can pay for full site but if you are good at remembering a route
happy birthday @AprilRN10
@mobycarp and @juliet3455 yes pace pullers. sneaky energy suckers. i do like doing "catch the next runner" though. with caution. we have a lot of run walkers in my area so they go fast then stop.0 -
@kevaasen i was leaning to the 16 week one. I love fartleks and so does speed demon
As i don't have a marathon in mind...how would one "stay in a holding pattern"?
Likely a good holding pattern would be base building weekly runs totaling minimum of 50%-60%+ of the peak marathon plan distance each week and likely a long run each week no shorter than 8 miles and likely best if in double digits. So your mileage might vary from low 20's to mid 30's? Other option would be following a HM plan.
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dreamer12151 wrote: »But the other day I shook my head as I saw a lady geared up and running....in...sandals. Just thought "Better her feet than mine".
My former statistics professor runs barefoot. She mentioned it one day in class and I guess I must have had a look of disbelief on my face becsuse she invited me to go with her on her lunch time run. I couldn't believe it even though I was right next to her. We even ran down by the Schuylkill on a gravel path! She swears her joints aren't affected by the lack of support from a pair of shoes.
That woman is tough.
I ran barefoot for a while, it is actually very good for your joints and helps teach you proper running from. At the very least you will quickly learn to not foot stomp in bare feet on gravel More seriously because you can feel what is happening better you can adjust on the fly better. I have heard that some running coaches have their runners run some small portion of their training barefoot for this reason.
It was weather/temps that had me go back to socks and shoes.1 -
@mbaker566 I've used map my run which looks to be similar to that site. I don't have a lot of options where I live. One way it's industrial and the other is farm. There's not always sidewalks. And I've gotten lost in my neighborhood because everything looks the same. It's like the beginning of Weeds.
Once my dog got out and sat in front of a house a few doors down that looked just like our house.
I tend to switch up my longer runs but my before work runs are just about getting it done and being close to home when I finish. Although I've been doing a neighborhood loop so I can grab cold nuun on my long runs so it's not all water. Joy of desert running.5 -
@garygse Skip was wearing the Zoom Fly, she has since switched to Hoka’s and something else I don’t remember with a lower drop than the Hoka’s. Those are pretty cool looking, enjoy.
@eponine1984 hope the little one is feeling better
@LaDispute57 great gps run ha ha I almost spit out my diet coke on the 10mm drop shoes, *kitten* I couldn’t walk in those let alone run the photo shop on the foot is killing me
@mbaker566 I do the same movie than book, seems the books gives so much more that was never conveyed in the movie. I saw adrift a couple weeks back and brought the book after and read it, gave a completely different view of her life before and after the boat accident
Welcome @eleanorhawkins your profile picture is oh so true
@juliet3455 and @Scott6255 I know pretty cool bike right, the bike store told her to let them know when she wants a “real” bike, they train folks for Tri’s so they were all about her in there. I actually found one similar in the trash on a run one day. It needs more work, but I’m giving it to Skip’s high school coach so he can ride with the kids while they run. Right now he drives out in the neighborhood with them and it’s harder to talk to them and to pull up and drop back. We brought a long good lock for it so she can also lock the rack to the truck and the bike to the rack so no one borrows it if she leaves it on the truck overnight. I’ve also warned her to take the seat off when not riding since it was pricey, nice gel, we brought a cover for it too when it’s parked at school. The racks are under a porch but it will still be in the elements if the wind is blowing. So my free bike has costs me about $325 so far ha ha!!! But in the town she is going to school she can pretty much bike everywhere including back and forth to the track if she wants to, plus lots of trail riding.
@Scott6255 thanks for the luck. Skip and I run trails, but this series has really pushed me with elevation that I’m not used to so I’m really enjoying it.
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Monthly Question?
macros. Do you target them? And where's your personal "sweet" spot?1 -
8/1 = 15 miles
8/2 = 10.5 miles
8/3 = yoga flow class
August goal miles = 175 / 25.5 miles-to-date
Upcoming Races:
10/27 = Hill Country Halloween Half Marathon
11/11 = Hill Country Trivium Half Marathon (tentative depending on work schedule)
1/26/19 = Miami Tropical 5K
1/27/19 = Miami Marathon3 -
dreamer12151 wrote: »But the other day I shook my head as I saw a lady geared up and running....in...sandals.
Maybe this would keep my toenails from falling off? 🤔 Airflow and all that..
Haha! Just kidding. I can’t imagine the blisters. When I was in my 20s I would always sacrifice comfort for fashion. My feet hated me for it. Now that I am an old lady runner, I contemplate whether it would be crossing the line to wear slippers to work.
Spoiler alert: You can get away with it for a few days but eventually some (really mean) person starts making “concerned” comments.8 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »So I have a fasting blood draw Monday. I am debating if I run or not. I can do a 40-minute foundation run fasted but I usually eat something after. I can't run any other time of day, too hot. Do I just take a ton of food with me and shovel it in after my blood draw? I risk getting shakey, headache, and crabby with or without the run.
@RunsOnEspresso I had a fasting blood draw for a physical 2 weeks ago. I ran a quick 5k beforehand with only black coffee to fuel me. I lived, however, my husband (who went with me because he had a physical scheduled at the same time) immediately stopped at the closest Starbucks. It made us both late however... I think he was legitimately scared of my hangry-ness.3 -
8/1: 1.19
8/3: 4.07
Total: 5.26/100
9/30 Wineglass Marathon
I took today off work, so I thought I would drive downtown to run on the river walk.
Apparently, part of it is closed for construction, so it cut off the end that goes into a large park. So, I turned around to run the short chunk that was open for a couple of out and backs, but about 5 minutes later a pop up shower started, and it POURED. I ended up running to my car and driving home to run in my subdivision. Oh well, I got my scheduled 4 miles in.
I also ordered a Garmin Forerunner 235 today to replace the Apple Watch since the battery life will likely not make it for my entire marathon, as I am estimating it will take me 4:45-5:00 to complete. Amazon had free one day shipping on it, so I should get it tomorrow!10 -
August goal: 170 miles
Date................Miles............Total/Remaining
8/1...................Rest.............. 000.00/170.00
8/2...................Rest.............. 000.00/170.00
8/3...................Rest.............. 000.00/170.00
Upcoming Races:
August 25, 2018 Bubble Run 5K (Pittsburgh, PA)
October 20, 2018 Sinnemahone Ultra MarathonTrail Run 50K (Emporium, PA)
At some point, I imagine it would be advisable to actually run this month...8 -
@dreamer12151 I think ive seen running sandels... Maybe i dreamt it, but im almost positive its a thing. But definitely not for trail runners 😉
@Scott6255 thanks for the info. Anyone else? Anyone have any particular food goals?0 -
@dreamer12151 I think ive seen running sandels... Maybe i dreamt it, but im almost positive its a thing. But definitely not for trail runners 😉
@Scott6255 thanks for the info. Anyone else? Anyone have any particular food goals?
Running sandals are definitely a thing and they are in fact used for trail running... I have a friend who runs in nothing but sandals year round and has completed dozens of 50 and 100 mile trail races.3 -
LaDispute57 wrote: »@dreamer12151 I think ive seen running sandels... Maybe i dreamt it, but im almost positive its a thing. But definitely not for trail runners 😉
@Scott6255 thanks for the info. Anyone else? Anyone have any particular food goals?
Running sandals are definitely a thing and they are in fact used for trail running... I have a friend who runs in nothing but sandals year round and has completed dozens of 50 and 100 mile trail races.
i have a trail running pair i use when i'm at a rocky lake. there are toe guards.2 -
LaDispute57 wrote: »@dreamer12151 I think ive seen running sandels... Maybe i dreamt it, but im almost positive its a thing. But definitely not for trail runners 😉
@Scott6255 thanks for the info. Anyone else? Anyone have any particular food goals?
Running sandals are definitely a thing and they are in fact used for trail running... I have a friend who runs in nothing but sandals year round and has completed dozens of 50 and 100 mile trail races.
Wow! Mind blown. I googled “running sandals” and it is indeed a thing. I love when I learn new things.
They look so blister inducing.... I am kind-of cringing just thinking about it.1 -
I never knew about running sandals until now either! For the ones that go between the toes, does it not rub? I would think it would create a blister or sore there.0
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I still do some barefoot running to re-adjust my stride and keep my feet healthy. I prefer doing it on trails rather than pavement. And this video is one of the best on barefoot running... one of my all-time favorite vids...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYTb-ataCc4&t=0s&index=28&list=FL7gs2hkzbTeM7dF-IuzWUYg3 -
Here is a video by my friend who runs in sandals only... this video was shot right after he did 6 ultras in 11 weeks, which included 3 50ks, a 50 mile and two 100 mile races...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqWmD7VAz4o3 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »
Thanks! It keeps happening :-/ I'm signed up for my first half marathon in December, nowhere near prepared for that but I have a training plan mapped out. Sadly though I keep seeing 5ks and I don't really know how it happens but I end up signed up for them. I'm telling myself they're part of my training lol. Even this morning, I saw one next weekend in the hilly village we're spending the next 9 days in. Killer heatwave and I've never yet managed to run all the way up a hill, and now I appear to intend to run that. Don't even know how long it is, all I know is the final 300 metres are up an ugly hill. Guess where I'm running on Sunday...... Sadly, my shins heard about this and have started being sore again. Anyone know any good stretches and/or tips to prevent blasted shin splints? I had them when I first started running, I had them again a couple of weeks ago when I went crazy and did a longer long run than I was prepared for :-(
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So much to catch up on...
@PastorVincent Ready Player One was an awesome book...I don't think I will see the movie as it would just ruin my perceptions of it.
@skippygirlsmom Yay on the bike, awesome pic of Skip!
@LaDispute57 Hilarious pic with the runs on water and heels
@RunnerGrl1982 Love the sunrise pic!
Slept in today and ran at home. Started drizzling about 1.5 miles in and maintained that for the duration of the run. The second I stepped on my front porch the deluge began, great timing
The uphill started at about mile 2 and kept going through mile 4(swear I was running in Athens, GA) but I managed to maintain a solid 12 minute mile average for the run.
4.26 today for 8.55 on endomondo.
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Dreaded mid-day run today because I stayed up late drinking last night and slept in late this AM. I generally prefer to run in the evening if I can’t run in the AM, but the weather report said it would be 25 degrees warmer then than it was around 11, so off I went. I’d planned an easy couple of miles with lifting after, but was feeling pretty good so went for some fartleks the second mile. Of course I did not at all feel up for lifting afterwards but I’m going to give it a go this evening.
A question I meant to ask a while ago: does anyone ever get a sensation of pressure between their shoulders after a long or hard run? It’s happened to me a couple of times now and it’s a little unsettling, though not exactly painful. The first time it happened was immediately after a longer run maybe a month ago and it actually felt like something was pushing me from behind. It only lasted a minute that time but lingered this morning.
ETA: Mid-day or not, the weather was amazing. My sympathies to those suffering through the heat and/or humidity - we've had a really nice break the last week or so and it's been great.
AUGUST MILES:
8/1 We - 0:21:46 - 1.86
8/2 Th - rest, prehab
8/3 Fr - 0:20:08 - 1.96 fartleks
Total: 3.82/50 miles
Races!
July 4: Red, White and Boom! 5K Chip time: 0:32:20
August 25: The Glo Run Night Race 5K
September 8th, 9th, 15th, or 16th: MN Brewery Running Series 5K-ish fun run
October 6: Twin Cities Marathon Weekend 5K2 -
1. I'm buying trail running sandals. Brands?
2. @eleanorhawkins Shin splints are often caused by too much too soon, pronation, not the right shoe, or cambored surfaces. If its medial shin splints, you can push into the sore spot where the angry attachment is, and flex your foot up and down to work that knot.
Then i think you should cross train until you can run with tolerated pain and add calf strengthening exercise.
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