WOMEN AGES 50+ FOR AUGUST 2018
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Barbie, that at least explains the terrible pain you've been suffering. Now you have a starting point to begin researching what you can do to help your body heal and how to reverse the osteoporosis. (Weakening bones, losing calcium) My research points to the countries where dairy consumption is the highest also have the highest osteo. The books I've been reading say the body will rob calcium from the bones in order to alkalanise the body, so the secret is to eat an alkaline producing diet so that your bones won't be robbed of the calcium they need. That's what I remember off the top of my head about osteo but I'm sure there is tons of info you can dig up with a little searching, use phrases like 'how to reverse osteo' and 'best diet for osteo' and 'how to regenerate bone'. Meat is very acid forming, veggies are alkalanising. My mum has degeneration between the bones of her spine and I found out that the body can regenerate that cushion if you eat certain foods...I believe lentils were on the "regenerating" list. I'll look for it. I had it on the front of my fridge for ages...
I have just come in from a lovely gallop on the beach with my student. We took Mani and Esmerelda. It rained all day and then the sun came out right when school got out, just in time for us to go for a ride! I am so blessed. I nearly got thrown off though, because a seal jumped down off a cliff right in front of Mani and he did such a quick stop and spin that I nearly didn't stay with him. LOL It was a baby seal and only the second one I've ever seen out riding. My student was sooooo thrilled to see it! It flopped across the sand in front of us and out into the sea, cutest thing ever. (Mani did not think so) Wendy7 -
margaretturk wrote: »M and Michelle do you have any problems with your knee or feet? When I went to my PT for my knee he commented that my tight ham strings contributed to the problems with my knee and can cause foot problems too. I also occasionally do have issues with my feet too. Knee is much better. I continue to do exercises for it and losing the weight has helped. I still need to be careful. It reminds me with a twinge when I move wrong. Constant pain is gone! Yeah!
Margaret
I have arthritis in both feet. I've been to see a podiatrist recently and do exercises for that just about every day. I'll likely also be getting orthotics.
M in Oz
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I do feet, pelvic floor, back, core, knee, hip, face, neck, quads, hamstrings, biceps, triceps etc etc every day. It has worked miracles. Especially for my knee which has an off centre patella. It used to cripple me and I lost most of my strength in that leg. Now it occasionally protests, but I am able to run and dance carefully on it. I never would have thought that possible. Targeted exercises can be truly life changing. My DH has cured his back pain from a curvature.
The removal guy came to give us a new quote. He seems to think he can move the three exercise machines without dismantling them. They are huge, long and heavy. The alternative is to use a specialist company to come and take them apart and reassemble them in the new place. That would obviously be expensive. Our stairs have a big turn in them, but he thinks they can manage. We are waiting to see if he can lower his previous quote.
We are going out for lunch together to a pub a short drive away. This is just to reconnect after four days of cricket. I will try not to mention the phone call he hasn't made to the solicitor.
I will have dinner for lunch so I won't have to cook much tonight.
Love Heather UK xxxxxxx4 -
OK let's try this again: J@ck@$$ penguins. or this way: jac.kass 🐧6
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Today I took a day off ... at work.
I booked a day off, then went to work hidden away in a private office on another floor. I wanted to spend a day trying to catch up on some of the personal paperwork, related to my husband's injury, which I just haven't had the time to do. I can't do much of it at home, so I needed to do it elsewhere and debated about going to a library or the university and finally asked if I might be able to do all this at work ... and it was all arranged.
I got a lot of work done, but in doing what I did, I kind of discovered that I was dealing with the tip of the iceberg. Ideally, I'd need at least 2-3 more days like this. But ... back to work tomorrow.
In the middle of the day, I took a break and walked to the Botanical Garden and back ... then stopped for a small taco.
My Walk
Distance: 6.64km
Elevation: 140m
Moving Time: 1:06:54
Elapsed Time: 1:30:43
Pace:10:04/km
My husband also had a good day at Rehab.
Machka in Oz8 -
Oh Barbie - I'm so sorry! Gentle hugs our fearless leader. I will keep you in my prayers. I know when hubs was given pain meds after he had his gall bladder out last summer, the nurse told me to make him take a stool softener while he took them and for 5 days after he stopped taking them. He fought me on it, but he took them. He thought since he only took 3 pain pills (I also followed her advice and made him take the pain pills for 24 hours), he didn't need the stool softeners.
Rye - I hope you made it home last night. Cute kitty!! I had a maintenance delayed flight out of Tulsa back to Houston years ago that they told me would fly no matter how late it was because the plane was needed the next morning in Houston or it would disrupt a kajillion other flights. Most of the people bailed on the flight, I think there were like 8 of us when we finally flew out at 2 AM. I drove by my office at 4 AM and called and left my boss a voice mail telling him to check the time stamp on the call, I was driving by his office and would be late coming in the next day. I showed up around 9 and he was laughing at me for my creative way to call in sleepy.
Lisa - Safe travels! I don't envy you all that driving. I think I have said before I would happily never drive again. Think I can find somewhere to live affordably on 5 acres with no close neighbors in the middle of a city with stuff in walking distance and uber available? Yeah, me either I hope your trip accomplishes what you need it to and you are able to destress when you get home to Egg and Corey (sp?).
Wendy - Oh my goodness! The baby seal would have been so fun to see. I'm glad you are experienced enough you were able to stay on Mani.
Karen - LOL on the **kitten** police.
NYKaren - Can't wait to see more pics. Stay safe and have an amazing time.
Kim - Glad business is going well and you have been able to save some money. I agree with whoever said $400 for tires!?!? I wish. I just put tires on my car and it was $1100. To be fair, hubs did it, I just get to drive with the shiny new tires on my car. I tell him that's why I have a boy, to take care of those kind of things.
Beth - Prayers continue for your son. I hope things are going well.
Machka - I'm glad you were able to get the tip of the iceberg chipped away. Creative way to get things taken care of. I would imagine that it was too much personal information to want it spread around at the library. I can completely understand why you couldn't do it at home.
Hugs ladies! Have a great Thursday (or Friday depending on where you are and when you read this). I have to call in for a meeting today that I shouldn't have to sit in on but hey, if they want to pay me to listen to mindless drivel, so be it. I'm debating whether to go the grocery store today or tomorrow. Such big decisions for me today
Okie in the TX Hill Country where it is still hitting 100 degrees every day.3 -
wildhorsewendy wrote: »Barbie, that at least explains the terrible pain you've been suffering. Now you have a starting point to begin researching what you can do to help your body heal and how to reverse the osteoporosis. (Weakening bones, losing calcium) My research points to the countries where dairy consumption is the highest also have the highest osteo. The books I've been reading say the body will rob calcium from the bones in order to alkalanise the body, so the secret is to eat an alkaline producing diet so that your bones won't be robbed of the calcium they need. That's what I remember off the top of my head about osteo but I'm sure there is tons of info you can dig up with a little searching, use phrases like 'how to reverse osteo' and 'best diet for osteo' and 'how to regenerate bone'. Meat is very acid forming, veggies are alkalanising. My mum has degeneration between the bones of her spine and I found out that the body can regenerate that cushion if you eat certain foods...I believe lentils were on the "regenerating" list. I'll look for it. I had it on the front of my fridge for ages...
Wendy
Yes! This is what I was thinking when I saw Barbie's diagnosis! You know now, and have a plan of how to heal and get yourself back on your feet and dancing again! Barbie- So sorry for your pain and I know this diagnosis may get you down, but I know you can do this! You are such a strong woman! Sending healing thoughts your way and prayers for strength and patience for you, as you heal! By the way! I read the Yum Yum Dim Sum book that you sent me to the kids on Monday (China)! They loved it and had me read it a couple more times through out the day! I can't wait to read the other, Nosh, tomorrow when we study Isreal!
Good morning all! Welcome to the U.S.A. ! lol Yes, boring. But The kids are young and everything is still new to them. Today, we will be making our Statue of Liberty crowns and torches and will write our own saying for the plaque on our statue. It should be interesting to see what the kids come up with instead of or in addition to " Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" I must say, reading up on the U.S. (yes, I study) and teaching the kids today is going to be difficult. I found myself just heartbroken as I prepped for today. (A little political here) I love my country; but I think I love it for what it CAN and SHOULD be, rather than what it is right now. It is a little like being in love with a man who needs to change and waiting to see if he will. Ah well, we will talk about the U.S. in little bites of information with little words and should be just fine!
NYKaren - Why are the penguins- Kitten penguins? I am not sure if you really don't like them, or if they are some type of penguin that has a perceived bad word in the beginning of their name...???
Penny and Ginger- So nice to see you both!
Okie and Lanette- Yes! Stand tall tall girls! Amazon women, unite! One thing that I noticed about being tall. My weight came on slowly and dispersed itself so evenly over my body, that it was very easy to ignore the fact that my weight was getting out of control. Did you find this to be true, for you?
gotta fly! Kids arriving! ttfn xoxoxo KJ (Kelly)2 -
Good Day ladies!
Kelly Maybe one of these days I can see a nutritionist, but for now, I just use MFP set up for macros. It has me set at 20% protein, 30% fat, and 50% carbs. Only about once a week do I actually hit the goal. Most days my fats are more the 50% and carbs 30%. Am looking forward to getting some real menu changes this fall/winter when life slows down.
Touching toes....umh....no....knees...ugh!.....arthritis....yes...When I fell a few years ago at work onto the concrete floor from a full out move, I did further damage to my knees. After the MRI, they recommended PT. When my therapist was working with me, I asked her why the exercises for the hips. She explained the connection, and said that many people who had knee replacements in the past, still had issues until hip replacements years later. The hips work in direct correlation with the knees. I really need to get off my @$$ and do my exercises. My masseuse would appreciate it too. I am only 5'2" also. My baby sister and brother are both 5'10". Funny story is that my sister always wanted to be short and cute like me growing up and I always wanted to be tall and elegant like her! I love heels and always feel more feminine and stand up straighter when wearing them. My job doesn't allow for that, so tennis shoes or clogs are the norm. (The customers would love to see me in my favorite outfits, I am sure, as it is dresses and heels-;) ) They double take when they see me out of the shop-LOL!
Okay ladies, I know I have work to do. I NEED to exercise, stretch, and figure out the eating thing. I reckon I need a swift kick in the right direction. The nice thing about vacation is I do lots of walking while looking at cars which helps compensate for eating out. We try to eat something for breakfast and usually only eat one meal out at around 3. Snacky stuffs in the evening. Usually there is more alcohol involved once back at cabin. Need to remember water. Not a lot of public restrooms while out walking though.....I am looking forward to the relaxing.
So grandfather clock is fixed!!!! Yay!!!! Will need to see if my daughter will come over once a week and wind it for us. Don't want it to stop while we are gone. Hot tub still leaking, still haven't heard anything from Hot Springs-rrrrr! Maybe will get a chance to tear into it next weekend. My husband isn't keen on it, but with new garage door and gutters, I really don't feel like spending several thousand on a hot tub. I need to go ahead and change the filters and add chemicals. Might as well use it until I empty it.
Sister in law told us yesterday that she won't be at work much for next two weeks so that she can help her husband at part of his business before we leave......grrr! I can grumble all I want but the reality is she is usually only there about 50% of the time anyway....So no surprise.....When we are gone she has to be there the whole time, but then again, apparently she leaves early more often than not if not busy. I always manage to get done what I can and take the rest with me. Work isn't so bad when done sitting on a deck in your bathrobe, looking out at the mountains and listening to the Dollywood train in the morning. I only work in the mornings, then play the rest of day.
Have a blessed day!
Welcome everyone new!
Hugs to those in need!
Safe travels to those not at home!
Encouragement to those struggling in any areas!
SMILES for all of YOU!!!!!!
Kylia in Ohio4 -
Barbie- Hugs (gently) At least you have a diagnosis so that you can begin the healing process.
Wendy- would have loved to see a seal, but scary about horse spooking. I got thrown several years ago, broke 4 ribs, took awhile before I sat in a saddle again. Bought turmeric at store. Need to look at your post to see how to use. Put it in eggs for supper last night.....not bad....will figure this out.
Machka- LOVE the creativeness on getting a handle on stuffs! Remember to BREATH!
Later lovely ladies!1 -
Saw the penguin explanation by KarenVA Forgot about those! lol Have fun!4
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Okie and Lanette- Yes! Stand tall tall girls! Amazon women, unite! One thing that I noticed about being tall. My weight came on slowly and dispersed itself so evenly over my body, that it was very easy to ignore the fact that my weight was getting out of control. Did you find this to be true, for you?
Yes, that is me too. It is hard to visibly see loss until I lose about 25-30 lbs. Taken the other way, as long as I’m wearing stretchy clothes, I can gain that much too without it being obvious. I think it was Ann Landers that said years (decades) ago, always wear pants with a zipper. When they get snug, it’s time to lose a few pounds.
Okie
ETA - I was overzealous with the delete key and messed up the quote function. I’m too lazy to do it over.4 -
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Happy Thursday!2
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M love the photos. Sorry about your feet.
Michelle glad back is fine.
Barbie so sorry about your back. I know how much I hurt when I had my knee pain. DH was on pain meds when he had Cancer. He too did not like the side effects and quickly went to other methods too!. Prayers!
Margaret0 -
I'm up at the farm having a great time! Sorry for the fuzzy picture! Anybody remember the rhyme fuzzy wazzy was a ...we chased him out of the wheat field.
Mary from Minnesota \ Arizona8 -
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Mary ~ That is one big machine!3
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KetoneKaren wrote: »Barbie. Darn it! Hope your back heals quickly. No wonder it's been so agonizing.
And I do love that beautiful black leather chair. Such a handsome piece of furniture.
Katla. I'm imagining you having a wonderful time with your visiting family!
Pip. I had to laugh a little bit about you calling yourself lazy. Not an adjective I would associate with you...
NYKaren I love penguins! Darned MFP changed jack.*kitten* penguins to *kitten* penguins. LOL!
Karen in Virginia
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Another bad night. Got up and watched a movie then slept until it was too late to go to water Grrr
Going to sort through my filing in box today, at least make a start.
Have a great day.
SueBDew in Tx where it is still hot.3 -
Machka - you live in a beautiful place!! Glad you were able to get some the tip of the iceberg taken care of and that your DH's rehab is going well. What kind of exercises is your podiatrist having you do?
Heather - good for you doing your targeted exercises, they have many benefits. Where did you learn them? Part of your yoga training?
I have started "The New Rules of Posture" book by Mary Bond and wow, she is very detailed with explanations and drawings. I found an hour+long presentation by her on Youtube I want to watch today. Here's the link which I hope stays up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7emPAZByLk If the mods make it disappear, just search for "Mary Bond: The New Rules of Posture"
Here is some bio on her: Mary Bond is a former dancer, a Structural Integration practitioner and former Chair of the Rolf Movement® faculty of the Rolf Institute of Structural Integration. In addition to running movement workshops, she has authored many articles and two books: "The New Rules Of Posture" and "Your Body Mandala: Posture as a Path to Presence".
Drawing on current anatomy research and neuroscience, Mary discusses how her work empowers you to change the way you inhabit your body. She shares foundational sensory perceptions that, when practiced mindfully, change how you sit, stand and move.
Kelly and Okie - yes, being tall does have its advantages. I can gain or lose 10 lbs and my pants still fit, either too tight or too loose but often not enough to buy a different size. YES on having pants with a zipper! That's the real test for me, lol. I am hoping because we are tall we have more/longer muscles to burn glucose.
KarenNY - OK now I want to see a photo those blankety blank penquins, lol. When I saw *kitten* I thought maybe they leave poo poo all over the place like seagulls and Canada geese, hence the *kitten*, lol.
Barbie - gentle hugs as well. What's the nasal spray for? After both of my surgeries, Phillips Milk of Magnesia came to the rescue, tho I can see your doc wanting to use more natural methods.
Mary - look at you on the combine! What was Fuzzy Wuzzy doing in the wheatfield? Did he have any hair? LOL!Maybe he was taking a shortcut to someplace else?
Ok time to pick apples then head to town. Mama deer is in the back yard eyeballing my garden and I see she parked a couple spotted fawns in the front yard under old apple trees there. Seems late for fawns.
Have a good day all!
Lanette
Much cooler, still smoky SW WA State6 -
Just joined today so my Weeks goals are:
Journal all my food and exercise, keep motivated and lose 2 lbs by the end of the month.
I have been up and down the last 4 months because I am not staying on track. Here goes6 -
Hi all,
Lanette - Yes some is yoga, which I do daily, but a lot is from the Internet and the MFP emails. I bought a book on face exercises. I paid out good money for a sports physio who diagnosed my knee, so I use her exercises, plus the ones I got at the hospital. I have had a myriad investigations for that knee since I was 16, but only the sports physio diagnosed it properly and really helped me. I do pelvic floor contractions when I remember.
Barbie - I really feel your pain and frustration. Katla has managed to improve her bone density I believe with meds. I guess it's mainly rest at the moment. Boo!
We got a new quote from the removal man which was considerably cheaper. Win!
We had a delightful lunch out. Lovely pub and I had AF beer. I ordered the fish and chips, but had steamed veg instead of chips. It was really good and I availed myself of three of DH's delicious chips. (Fries) I did not say a word about the solicitor and after a food shopping trip on the way home DH rang him off his own bat. Of course he wasn't available and they promised to call us back. They haven't. Grrrrrrrrrr! Grrrrrrrrrr!
Must go and put the octopus head I froze into the trash for tomorrow's collection.
Love Heather UK xxxxxxx3 -
Have to run to work, had quite a trying and unpleasantly eventful trip home but had to ask:
Heather An “Octopus Head”? Really? How exotic.
Rye, tired and grumpy on four hours sleep but even so happy to be home.5 -
I’m watching the sun set as DH takes a nap after a very scenic day. The pics of Jac.ka@s penguins are below. They get the name from how they sound-just like donkeys, we heard them in the brush before seeing them! Also, you can smell them from a distance! This time of year the chicks are hatched and molting, they make a peeping sound. The adults are just adorable, waddling along ignoring us humans elbowing to take pics! One of the industrious birds was walking sticks back and forth to build a nest.
We also drove to cape of good hope, the southern most point in So Africa and I got to do what I began this journey for on MFP, I climbed (mostly steps but some rocky paths) up to a very high viewing spot, looking backward terrified me but I just concentrated on one foot at a time, eyes forward. My quads were like Jello afterwards but oh what views—so worth it! They called it a scenic walk, I called it redemption because before I got fitter, I never would have been able to do that
Once again we encountered animals crossing the road, today it was an ostrich but the pics are on dh’s Phone will post later.
NYKAREN8 -
I have to say I love to lurk and read about all the interesting lives around here! I am 5 9 - amazing what we do to ourselves. I always wished I was short and petite. Always felt like a big giant. Took me a long time to be proud of my height. Never really got comfortable with my weight - really too bad we beat ourselves up. That was my #1 goal with my children - to take pride in who they are physically and mentally!
Have a happy happy Thursday!
Lynn in WI5 -
NYKAREN - Thanks for sharing your photos. I love penguins. We saw some years ago when we went to Phillip Island.
Okie2 -
Karen in VA Music! Found my earbuds, now waiting for my earache to subside. Thanks! Thanks also for explaining the penguins' first names, lost I was!
Lanette "PAD"? Acorn and BritBox sound way better than Showtime and Stars, which we've postponed upgrading to due $$$... Hesitate tho to spend for just my pc, if our TV were internet enabled... then maybe...
Rebecca I too had a serious slip up. Last night feeling cranky from earache, made a coke float with Ben and Jerry's NY Super Fudge Chunk ice cream. Boy did I pay for it! It's been long enough since last ice cream that lactase deficiency really kicked my butt ;( Long night on the throne. Today its back to cottage cheese and greek yoghurt which my gut tolerates just fine!
KJ "...do the splits..." :noway: not even at 8 yo in ballet.
Heather, you've inspired me! Found the podcast app, and Soul Music from BBC4 and now listening to True Colors, one of my faves!
SuebDew count me in on someone who'd love to come pick your pecans...
Michele, If the newcomer's webmaster can't restrict your access, can he make it easy for you to back up the whole thing BEFORE you make any changes? Just in case...
Penny toxins pass into unborn child??? Wow!
Tracey I save the dinner dishes to do if insomnia hits in the middle of the night. If not, they get done while the tea water boils. Mama would shake more than her head at my P!$$ poor housekeeping but it wouldn't surprise her, its always been that way...
Margaret when line dancing if I focus on chin up/shoulders back I'm sore the next day, but the good sore that means I did something for my muscles. Zumba on!
Kay "ab ripper 200" you go gal! Would love to hear about your vinyl floor tile estimate and experience... maybe next year for us...
Ginger absolutely LOVE your shirt! At 4'11" count me in on the "short list"
Barbie severely limited walking... for a month or ? What does the nasal spray do? gentle (((hugs))) and healing energy.
Rye looks like that tail has already bonded with your husband's neck! Hope Mr. Kidd Kirby and Jackie Kane will be welcoming.
Wendy baby seals flying down in front of your student horseback riding on sunny beach. You ARE magic!
Okie "find somewhere to live affordably on 5 acres with no close neighbors in the middle of a city with stuff in walking distance and uber available?" Let me know when you do and I'll take the place next door
Machka lovely walk!
Mary you could chase the bear out of our neighborhood if that monster machine weren't so wide
NYKaren love the pics! Had a hard time imagining you seeing penguins on other than icefields...
Welcome 6cookys, let us know what you want to be called and roughly where youare.
Handkerchiefs: one of my T'ai Chi pals had a color coordinated hanky sticking out of the cell phone pocket on her yoga pants. We had a lovely chat remembering ironing our parents hankies, linens, etc, and grimaced at ironing Papa's shorts :laugh:
Alexa: thanks all for the cautions. We won't be getting her and I'm trying to figure out how to disable Siri on my iPhone.
Yellow rooms. Mama always had a yellow kitchen, not my fave. Joe loved his chrome yellow, oxblood red striped kitchen, not gonna happen. If anything, thinking to paint cabinets shiny white and add cherry red accents to match my teakettle. It's the only red I like and the closest Joe's gonna get...
Actually got down on the floor yesterday, meditated, took care of knees and even walked "one more step" for the first time in days. Gonna repeat it right now.
Thank you all, your support and postings are so very dear!
Lighter, lovelies!
Barbara, the Southern Oregon Coastie AHMOD.
60 g protein 19/22, meditate 9/22, walk one more step 9/22, knee exercises 9/22, core 5/16, walk Tumble 11/16 times, SWSY 0/8, hang up or purge art 0/1, AF 16/22
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NY Karen love the penguin pictures!1
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cityjaneLondon wrote: »Hi all,
Lanette - Yes some is yoga, which I do daily, but a lot is from the Internet and the MFP emails. I bought a book on face exercises. I paid out good money for a sports physio who diagnosed my knee, so I use her exercises, plus the ones I got at the hospital. I have had a myriad investigations for that knee since I was 16, but only the sports physio diagnosed it properly and really helped me. I do pelvic floor contractions when I remember.
Barbie - I really feel your pain and frustration. Katla has managed to improve her bone density I believe with meds. I guess it's mainly rest at the moment. Boo!
We got a new quote from the removal man which was considerably cheaper. Win!
We had a delightful lunch out. Lovely pub and I had AF beer. I ordered the fish and chips, but had steamed veg instead of chips. It was really good and I availed myself of three of DH's delicious chips. (Fries) I did not say a word about the solicitor and after a food shopping trip on the way home DH rang him off his own bat. Of course he wasn't available and they promised to call us back. They haven't. Grrrrrrrrrr! Grrrrrrrrrr!
Must go and put the octopus head I froze into the trash for tomorrow's collection.
Love Heather UK xxxxxxx
This was such an entertaining post with lots of visuals.
Face exercises.
Pelvic floor contractions.
Fish and Chips in a lovely pub.
Husband rang him off his own bat.
Octopus head in the freezer.
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Barbara I have great headphones - both earbud type and over the ear type - and I love them. My partner works from home. She has ADHD, so on my days off work, she can be very distracting, and I end up feeling as if I haven't had 2 minutes of peace. I forewarn her that I am going on "ignore" mode, and then put on my headphones. She continues to fuss and putter and mutter (which is how she processes stuff), but I can't hear her.
About the color yellow, you could put a bouquet of yellow sunflowers in a vase in your kitchen when you are feeling kindly towards your husband...
Mary That big combine made me a bit homesick for Nebraska! Fuzzy bear indeed!
NYKAREN Absolutely adorable penguins. I do love penguins. Funny little creatures!
Karen in Virginia
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Barbara - I so enjoy those podcasts. The best ones always make me tear up!
When we went to the local supermarket today we were just paying for our goods and the woman behind the till said "That was a very healthy shop! "
NYKAREN - Thanks for the ×+÷$$ penguin pics. So glad you could get up that hill in style!
Love Heather UK xxxxxxx3
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