October 2018 Monthly Running Challenge
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@MegaMooseEsq - could you wear another top underneath of your Captain Marvel shirt to prevent the chafing and provide some extra warmth if needed?3
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PastorVincent wrote: »I eat a bit more complex carbs the week before to top off. i will say having only done halves that i have felt the difference when i do and when i don't. but i'm also eating at a deficit most of the time. the week of i eat at maintenance.
this doesn't count as carb loading?
Yes, it also counts as "recovery food" in my book.
That looks like an entire day's allotment of calories to me... although that wouldn't necessarily stop me if I wanted it.
On carb loading: I might eat a slight bigger meal the night before, but try not to overdo it.
On the 16 or 19.3k vs. 20k friendly debate: @PastorVincent I think you're forgetting what it's like to be a beginner. An extra TWO TIMES around a track could be a LOT if you've just run 19.3k for the first time ever in your life. Of course, if you've got it in you or want the extra challenge, by all means go for it - I have done this myself. But in this case we're talking to a first-timer who (I think) had mentioned that the runs on the Novice Hal Higdon plan were already feeling difficult, and I wanted to reassure them that it is perfectly acceptable to just trust the plan. I also understand that they might change their mind at the end of the run and take off around the block again to round up to the next kilometer, but I don't want people feeling like they HAVE to in order to be able to cover the distance on race day.
It's staying darker longer in the morning. Today I was about 10 minutes too early on the unlit tractor path through the field (and my flashy armband light doesn't really work as a flashlight) so I had to slow down trying to see where I was going. The rest of the route had streetlights and it did get light before I got home, but I'm going to have to adjust my route. Sigh. I'm feeling great, though!
10/1-7 Totals: bike 20.4 km, run 15 km
10/8-14 Totals: bike 10.3 km, run 24.9 km
10/15 - bike 19.5k, run 6k
10/16 - rest
10/17 - run 6.1k
10/18 -
10/19 -
10/20 -
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Upcoming races:
October 20: City Trail 5k
November 11: City Trail 5k
December 8: City Trail 5k
January 12: City Trail 5k
February 2-3: Lublin night 10k
February 16: City Trail 5k
March 23: City Trail 5k
April 7: Lublin 10k (maybe)
May 12: Lublin Marathon
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This is not my photo, but from someone I know. This is the mud on the course during my race last weekend, where folks were going around it as I splashed through it. Now doesn't that looks like a whole lotta fun!?!
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I thought this was cool and quickly took a photo.
This guy passed me at the 10 km mark of the marathon.
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rheddmobile wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Question regarding nutrition. I've been doing a calorie deficit for the last (forever) few months to get back on track, and I'm within a kg of my lowest weight (almost 23kg/48lb lost since Jan 2017). But I'm thinking with the amount of ks I'm now doing, and my focus for the next 4 weeks is HM prep, I've been doing a bit of reading. The idea around deficit seems to be mixed, some saying a small deficit is ok, some saying eat maintenance. What are ya'alls thoughts (is that the right usage lol). My ultimate aim for my weight is to lose another 4kg (around 8lb) but my not stressed about it, I'd rather run a good HM
@Avidkeo it depends on which goal is more important. For me, I want to go into a big race feeling my best and that means eating at maintenance for 2 or 3 week prior to the race. If it's a race that's not a big deal to me I'll stay at a deficit until a few days before the race.
After the race, either way, stay at maintenance for several days while you recover. Then go back to a deficit.
Great job getting nearly back to your lowest! After a summer of gluttony I'm trying to get back on track myself and unfortunately have 13 pounds to go to reach my lowest, and 16 to go for my goal, but I'm rededicating myself to the effort as of yesterday.
Yeah, as always the answer "it depends" is always the right one.
There are those that say being lighter on race day means you will run faster. There is this whole concept of "ideal race weight" which, if you are dieting, I am going to guess you are over. Given that some would tell you to eat at a loss so that you can have a good weight at the start. *shrugs*, in this case, do whatever feels right to you.
Lol I very much doubt the 1kg (2lb) I would lose in the next month will make that much of a difference to my race day pace. That said, i was reading about carb loading and the writer kept referring to an average runner of 150lb. I had to google what my current weight is in pounds, and its 149lb!!!!! whooo hooo lol. Does that make me an average runner then, even though I'm short (5'3")?
Yeah this race means a lot to me, I've been building toward it for a whole year, it is my year goal and the culmination of slow and steady build up, following an actual training plan and goofing off with you guys, so race beats weight loss. Besides, I'm so close to ideal weight I almost don't care, happy to lose it if/when it comes off. This weight feels pretty good. So Race first!
extending the topic, who carb loads before a half? worth it or not really? I'm thinking of doing it 2 days before the 20k run in 2 weeks, see how that goes, and then tweak for the half. or waste of time?
Since I just did my first 13 mile run, I'm not exactly an expert but I do get to see under the hood as it were through blood glucose testing, so I thought you might be interested in my observations. I usually eat a big carby oatmeal breakfast the day of, an orange shortly before, and skip any glycogen-depleting activity such as heavy lifting the day before, when I'm planning to run hard. For this run I did all of that and also brought along some gummies which are 24 carbs per serving of three. I ended up eating three gummies, two at the six mile mark, and one at the ten mile mark when I started to feel bonky, and felt just fine, like I had fueled exactly right for me.
Then I ate 3300 calories between then and bed, no lie, and my blood glucose never went above 100. Kept waking up all night feeling starving. And I ate a whole lotta carbs the next day and my blood glucose levels dropped as fast as I could eat. This lasted three days before it wore off. So my observation as a diabetic would be, no real need to carb load per se, as long as you don't actually deplete your carbs ahead of time so you have a normal full supply in your muscles and liver, and bring a little fuel for hours two and three (if you run more than two hours.) My body, at least, was happy to wait to strip carbs until after the run was over!
Wow that's really fascinating! I love numbers and "experiments" and that's a neat one. Interesting what happened over the next few days! And kind of a relief. I remember not being hungry for several hrs after my 14k run, but being ravenous when it kicked in!
It soulike I'm probably on the right track then, and I don't need to do much different, yay!3 -
Just goes to show how much of a mental game running is for me, Wednesdays are short/easy/recovery run days for me and this morning's 3km, although done at my usual pace and without any walk breaks, felt ok. Except, I was kind of cold at first, maybe it's time to start covering up a little more. I do get some funny looks when I'm setting off in my shorts and T-shirt and all the high school kids on their way to class are in long trousers, sweatshirts and even some winter jackets. It does warm up a lot as soon as the sun comes up though.
Slightly sore ankle again afterwards. I think I'm going to have to stop being stubborn and admit that running 3 days in a row is too much for me. Going to swap Thursday's run and Friday's rest day around, that should do it.
2/10: 6km
3/10: 3km
4/10: 6km
7/10: 8.5km
9/10: 6.5km
10/10: 3km
11/10: 6km
14/10: 9km
16/10: 6.5km
17/10: 3km
October goal: 90km, stretch goal: 105km. Completed so far: 57.5km.
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I thought this was cool and quickly took a photo.
This guy passed me at the 10 km mark of the marathon.
I read an article about a guy with a missing leg, which mentioned that some insurance companies decide how good a leg you get based on your previous level of activity, and because the guy in the article had been a marathon runner, he qualified for an especially good leg!5 -
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So, bah, I have to fess up. I should NOT have had the homefries at that dinner on Sunday. Pretty sure that was the gluten source. I figured they would be risky, but ordered them anyways. Idiot.
Today is only 3 days out, so might have to skip tonight's run too. Those that deal with this know the importance of a nearby toilet. *sigh* I was planning to try an ignore it and run this week as normal, but dang it, these kinds of issues are very hard to ignore.
*grumble*
I did, however, put my cold running gear in my bag in case things work out, or rather stop working their way out.
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W3D2 done. Same pace and time as Monday, though it felt faster.7
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I thought this was cool and quickly took a photo.
This guy passed me at the 10 km mark of the marathon.
I've got something in my eyes.
10/1 - Transform App- Upper body
10/2 - 4 miles + TA W3 Legs
10/3 - 4.5 miles + TA W4 Upper Body
10/4 - TA W4 Legs
10/5 - 4.5 miles + TA W4 Upper
10/6 - 4 miles in Tampa
10/7 - rest day
10/8 - 4 miles + Transform - Arms/Back
10/9 - Transform App - Legs/Glutes
10/10 - 3 miles
10/11 - Transform App - Back/Arms
10/12 - tried to run but glute pain, walked 2 miles
10/13 - 4 miles + transform upper body
10/14 - 4 miles!
10/15 - Transform App - chest, arms
10/16 - 4.5 miles + transform app - legs - after a week of no leg workout, I took this one easy!
10/17 - 4 miles + tbd
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No run today for me, lifted heavy things for my lower body and core. Rest day tomorrow and long slow run on Saturday. Have a great day everyone.3
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I thought this was cool and quickly took a photo.
This guy passed me at the 10 km mark of the marathon.
That reminds me of this article in Runner's World reprinted online earlier this year. Long fascinating story short, a doctor and HS cross-country coach decides in his mid 40s to have his leg amputated after surviving a near-amputation in a motorcycle accident in his 20s so he can keep running after the degeneration resulting from the accident becomes too severe.7 -
10/1 = 3 miles
10/2 = vacation
10/3 = 5 miles hiking on vacation
10/4 = vacation
10/5 = 3 miles
10/6 = 10 miles
10/7 = 11 miles
10/8 = rest day
10/9 = 12 miles
10/10 = 6 miles
10/11 = 4 miles
10/12 = 17 miles
10/13 = rest day
10/14 = 8 miles
10/15 = ⛈
10/16 = more thunderstorms AM / 4 neighborhood miles after work
10/17 = 5 miles
There was a break in the rain at 9 am so I set out to squeeze in 8-10 miles before I had to go to work. Thwarted again....
Tomorrow is not looking any better. 80% chance of storms in the morning. 😑
October goal miles = 120 / 88 miles-to-date
Upcoming Races:
10/27 = Hill Country Halloween Half Marathon
11/22 = Georgetown Turkey Trot
1/26/19 = Miami Tropical 5K
1/27/19 = Miami Marathon
3/10/19 = ZOOMA half (potentially)8 -
Did 7k of interval training today - warmup, followed by three sets of 10 minutes hard and 3 minutes easy. For whatever reason, legs felt like concrete. Up to 90k for October.
Sunday's race weather forecast is rain mixed with snow and temps in the mid 30s. Guess the fast and light or slow and warm decision has been made for me by Mother Nature.
Rest day tomorrow...5 -
October goal: 95 miles
10/2: 5.5 miles
10/3: 5 miles
10/4: 5 miles
10/6: 3.1miles Old Rip 5K - PR and 2nd place AG
10/8: 5.2 miles
10/10: 5 miles
10/11: 5.2 miles
10/14: 9 miles
10/15: 3.5 miles
10/17: 5 miles
51.2/95 miles completed
I got to run 5 miles this morning! When I got up this morning there was a break in the rain so I took it. It may be my only chance to run until Saturday. I figured I would just start running and if it started raining I would head back. It was 50F with a feels like of 47F which really wasn't too bad. It was warmer than yesterday and Monday. I wore capris and a t-shirt with a jacket and gloves. I ended up taking the jacket off about 3.5 miles in. I need to look for some sleeves because I really think that might be just the thing I need for days like this. If it had been daylight and the sun had been shining it would have been perfect. I enjoyed the run quite a bit. It never did rain on me. I saw a few drops between 1.5 - 2 miles and I thought it was going to start raining, but it never did. It is raining now and supposed to rain all day long. This is my least favorite type of weather. I just hate when the skies are gray all day long. I need to see the sun. But I know we need rain and we are in an area that is usually in a drought so I try not to complain about it too much. And we are north of the serious flooding that has been happening in Texas so that is good. I know a lot here seem to love running in the rain. I haven't had many opportunities to run in it. I don't really mind summer rain, but cold rain is not my friend. I was really glad to get a chance to run today. The cloudy weather isn't good for my mood and not getting to run makes it doubly depressing.
2018 races:
5/19/18: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon - 2:43:59.7. - 2nd place AG
10/6/18: Old Rip 5K Run - PR 29:43.5, 2nd place AG
11/10/18: Wags & Whiskers 5K4 -
10/1 11.84miles
10/2 8miles
10/3 5miles
10/4 rest
10/5 5miles
10/6 rest
10/7 13.1race! Crawlin Crab Half Marathon
10/8 4miles
10/9 9miles
10/10 16miles
10/11 4miles
10/12 9miles
10/13 5k race! Joggin’ for Frogmen
10/14 rest
10/15 10.41miles
10/16 5miles
10/17 14miles
Miss a day posting and I’m 133 posts behind!!
Did 5 easy miles yesterday and had to shuffle my long run of the week to today due to a crazy busy weekend. I knew I wouldn’t be able to get it in if I didn’t do it today. It actually felt pretty good. The weather is amazing. Low humidity just feels so wonderful after how hot and muggy the entire summer was!
3/18/2018 Shamrock half marathon
3/24/2018 Don't Sit on Colon Cancer 5K
5/28/2018 Run to Remember 5K
10/7/2018 Crawlin Crab half marathon
10/13/2018 Joggin for Frogmen 5K
11/18/2018 Norfolk Harbor half marathon
12/2/2018 Busch Gardens Christmas Town Dash 8K6 -
Nice 'easy' run with my bro. Easy in terms of pace, but forgot about these hills in Georgia. They are like mountains compared to running at home. But it's all good!5
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No run... but tomorrow is another day!1
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MegaMooseEsq wrote: »I thought this was cool and quickly took a photo.
This guy passed me at the 10 km mark of the marathon.
That reminds me of this article in Runner's World reprinted online earlier this year. Long fascinating story short, a doctor and HS cross-country coach decides in his mid 40s to have his leg amputated after surviving a near-amputation in a motorcycle accident in his 20s so he can keep running after the degeneration resulting from the accident becomes too severe.
I showed the pic I took to my husband, and he said he saw the guy interviewed on TV!
He said the guy finished the marathon, his first one, and said his stump was hurting in it.
They used his heel to make his stump!
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@workaholic_nurse Yeah, I noticed that and was going to comment on it with this post, but saw you corrected yourself.
Ran 15 miles at MP this morning...the temps were in the low 50s with a little rain at first, but the rain then stopped and held off for the rest of the run. Average pace for the entire run, including warm-up, was 7:30, so I pretty much hit the mark.
Yesterday was a tough session getting tested (@Elise4270 it was at Platri in The Colony, so not the place where you went). After a warm-up run of 10 minutes, the first test was the VO2Max test. The face mask was weird at first, my breathing sounded like Darth Vader, and when I tried to talk, I sounded like Kenny from South Park. We started by getting my HR to 130...they wanted it within 1 bpm as much as possible, and then from there we slowly increased the workout so that my HR went up in increments of 5 bpm, up to either 185 or 190 (I forget which...by that point I know I was running a 5:00 pace). Trying to keep your HR within 1 bpm of target, especially at the higher end of the test, is actually quite a challenge in and of itself.
Then after a cool down, the mask came off (ahh, I can breathe again) and it was time to do the Lactate Threshold test. She took a blood lactate reading, and had me maintain 145 bpm for 5 minutes before taking another blood lactate reading. This continued in increments of 5 (up to 175 bpm), with each target being held for 5 minutes before a blood lactate reading was taken. By the end, my finger felt like a pin cushion...but that's ok, at least I wasn't wearing that darned mask (the bridge of my nose is bruised because of that thing!).
So now I have to wait for the analysis to be performed, which she said could take a couple of days, but she did have my VO2Max result: 64.
She also asked me if I'd ever been coached at any time; when I said no, she was surprised and said my running form was actually excellent. I have to credit @Stoshew71 there for his pieces of advice (string from top of head, and headlamps on the hips and nipples) as that really helped me focus on establishing good form and technique when I initially started out running.
01 - 15.63
02 - 14.43
03 - 10.21
04 - 12.19
05 - 22.04
08 - 15.63
09 - 12.64
10 - 12.19
11 - 13.53
12 - 26.40
13 - 6.97
16 - 5.91
17 - 15.60
Total: 172.18 / 250 miles
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Ran 15 miles at MP this morning...the temps were in the low 50s with a little rain at first, but the rain then stopped and held off for the rest of the run. Average pace for the entire run, including warm-up, was 7:30, so I pretty much hit the mark.
Yesterday was a tough session getting tested (@Elise4270 it was at Platri in The Colony, so not the place where you went). After a warm-up run of 10 minutes, the first test was the VO2Max test. The face mask was weird at first, my breathing sounded like Darth Vader, and when I tried to talk, I sounded like Kenny from South Park. We started by getting my HR to 130...they wanted it within 1 bpm as much as possible, and then from there we slowly increased the workout so that my HR went up in increments of 5 bpm, up to either 185 or 190 (I forget which...by that point I know I was running a 5:00 pace). Trying to keep your HR within 1 bpm of target, especially at the higher end of the test, is actually quite a challenge in and of itself.
Then after a cool down, the mask came off (ahh, I can breathe again) and it was time to do the Lactate Threshold test. She took a blood lactate reading, and had me maintain 145 bpm for 5 minutes before taking another blood lactate reading. This continued in increments of 5 (up to 175 bpm), with each target being held for 5 minutes before a blood lactate reading was taken. By the end, my finger felt like a pin cushion...but that's ok, at least I wasn't wearing that darned mask (the bridge of my nose is bruised because of that thing!).
So now I have to wait for the analysis to be performed, which she said could take a couple of days, but she did have my VO2Max result: 64.
She also asked me if I'd ever been coached at any time; when I said no, she was surprised and said my running form was actually excellent. I have to credit @Stoshew71 there for his pieces of advice (string from top of head, and headlamps on the hips and nipples) as that really helped me focus on establishing good form and technique when I initially started out running.
01 - 15.63
02 - 14.43
03 - 10.21
04 - 12.19
05 - 22.04
08 - 15.63
09 - 12.64
10 - 12.19
11 - 13.53
12 - 26.40
13 - 6.97
16 - 5.91
17 - 15.60
Total: 172.18 / 250 miles
@garygse When I read your VO2 Max was 64 I said the F word out loud. Wow.4 -
Ran 15 miles at MP this morning...the temps were in the low 50s with a little rain at first, but the rain then stopped and held off for the rest of the run. Average pace for the entire run, including warm-up, was 7:30, so I pretty much hit the mark.
Yesterday was a tough session getting tested (@Elise4270 it was at Platri in The Colony, so not the place where you went). After a warm-up run of 10 minutes, the first test was the VO2Max test. The face mask was weird at first, my breathing sounded like Darth Vader, and when I tried to talk, I sounded like Kenny from South Park. We started by getting my HR to 130...they wanted it within 1 bpm as much as possible, and then from there we slowly increased the workout so that my HR went up in increments of 5 bpm, up to either 185 or 190 (I forget which...by that point I know I was running a 5:00 pace). Trying to keep your HR within 1 bpm of target, especially at the higher end of the test, is actually quite a challenge in and of itself.
Then after a cool down, the mask came off (ahh, I can breathe again) and it was time to do the Lactate Threshold test. She took a blood lactate reading, and had me maintain 145 bpm for 5 minutes before taking another blood lactate reading. This continued in increments of 5 (up to 175 bpm), with each target being held for 5 minutes before a blood lactate reading was taken. By the end, my finger felt like a pin cushion...but that's ok, at least I wasn't wearing that darned mask (the bridge of my nose is bruised because of that thing!).
So now I have to wait for the analysis to be performed, which she said could take a couple of days, but she did have my VO2Max result: 64.
She also asked me if I'd ever been coached at any time; when I said no, she was surprised and said my running form was actually excellent. I have to credit @Stoshew71 there for his pieces of advice (string from top of head, and headlamps on the hips and nipples) as that really helped me focus on establishing good form and technique when I initially started out running.
01 - 15.63
02 - 14.43
03 - 10.21
04 - 12.19
05 - 22.04
08 - 15.63
09 - 12.64
10 - 12.19
11 - 13.53
12 - 26.40
13 - 6.97
16 - 5.91
17 - 15.60
Total: 172.18 / 250 miles
@garygse When I read your VO2 Max was 64 I said the F word out loud. Wow.
I did too! And I'm in line at the grocery store!
Garmin tells me that I range from 44 to 50. I don't have faith that's accurate.5 -
6 miles treadmill Tues. night.
I'll be back home again on Sun. and will update the rest of the week then.
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@7lenny7 Runalyze has me at 49, and Garmin has me at 54-56, which goes to show that algorithms can only really be used to determine a trend at best.
Interestingly, in between my initial post and now, the results arrived in an email...looks like my LT is 170 bpm. I've also got a nice breakdown of the calories per hour for each HR (from 135-190 in increments of 5), along with fat per hour and carbs per hour. It feels like information overload, but in terms of recovery it will tell me how many carbs I need to be taking in to replenish the glycogen that was used during a given run.
There's also another sheet that gives me better HR zones to plug in to Garmin so that I can train a little more effectively. Overall, while the test wasn't exactly cheap (it was an early birthday present to myself) I think it's money relatively well spent.7 -
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
10/01/18 :::: 5.0 :::: 5.0
10/02/18 :::: 4.2 :::: 9.2
10/03/18 :::: 7.1 :::: 16.3
10/04/18 :::: 3.7 :::: 20.0
10/05/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 20.0
10/06/18 :::: 20.0 :::: 40.0
10/07/18 :::: 5.0 :::: 45.0
10/08/18 :::: 4.5 :::: 49.6
10/09/18 :::: 5.1 :::: 54.7
10/10/18 :::: 5.9 :::: 60.6
10/11/18 :::: 4.0 :::: 64.6
10/12/18 :::: 0.0 :::: 64.6
10/13/18 :::: 15.0 :::: 79.6
10/14/18 :::: 2.8 :::: 82.4
10/15/18 :::: 3.0 :::: 85.4
10/16/18 :::: 3.0 :::: 88.4
10/17/18 :::: 3.1 :::: 91.5
Went to group speedwork tonight for just a base run. It was spitting cold rain, so not the most pleasant but it's always good to get it done with the group. My friend (who is running Marine Corps as well) and I talked happily about how much we are enjoying cutting down our mileage this week. We may even sleep in on Saturday and not start our run until 8 am! Such a treat.
@garygse - so interesting about the testing. That is an impressive VO2 max for sure. I was just browsing around to see what the range is and learned that the world record is something like 95! Some very elite runners have 70s to high 80s. I had no idea they went that high. I'm curious if you have a Garmin or other device that gives a V02 max estimate and how that compares.
I'm sorry I haven't been doing a good job of keeping up on conversations here. Will try to catch up soon!
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