October 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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Congrats @polska_girl and @Faebert - excellent running!2
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rheddmobile wrote: »@Elise4270 for me, vegan or vegetarian wouldn’t be a good fit, since as a type 2 I already have to limit carbs, and as a weightlifter I have to get lots of protein, and as an anemic person I struggle to get enough iron. I already can’t eat bread or rice or sweets without bg spikes, and most of the easy proteins for vegans such as legumes also spike me. It wouldn’t make sense for me to eliminate lean meat and fish and dairy from my diet and would just add to the list of things I can’t eat.
On the other hand, for someone struggling with cholesterol but with fine blood sugar, vegetarianism might make a lot of sense. I’m not a big fan of the science supporting the vegan diet since any diet which doesn’t provide one of the major vitamins without supplements seems to me to be automatically not a great idea. I also don’t emotionally understand the thinking behind veganism - eat plants which are commercially fertilized by honey bees, but never eat the honey they make, for example. But that’s just me.
Thanks for the share. I agree with the B12 issue. It just shows we need meat in our diets. For me that isn't really an issue, I have part of a faulty/less effective gene and have to supplement B12 anyway. I'm truly on the fence. I just made a pot of veggie chili and it was eat-able. I missed the fat and so wanted to add full fat sour cream... But kitten, I can hang in there until the new year right? (or maybe just til Monday when grab a quarter pounder and a diet DP).
I don't like the politics surrounding vegan or vegetarian. Sure I want to save the planet and it's non-human inhabitants, but... C'mon. Quarter Pounder, turkey, roast? It's hard.
DH is on board. I never asked him to. He said solidarity, right? I said nah man. You give up meat, I'm buying a fat *kitten* steak. I'm doing me, don't care what you eat! Well, I will when I figure out "me".
So yuck. I bought oatmeal. The stuff they feed horses.3 -
Hi all. Managed my half marathon today! It was a gorgeous sunny and v cold day and despite a terrible night’s sleep I decided to go for it. Hamstring was sore on the steeper hills (and there was one really nasty one x 2 lap course!) but I held on and made it through and somehow managed to beat my last half time. I slipped in the mud and fell 100m before the finish line as well but luckily no damage and didn’t lose too much time. Thrilled to have done it at sub 10 minute mile pace! Total time was 2:08.59.
Having surgery in early December so this will be my last race before a long break. Having only started running last December I decided to try for a half in June and my goal then was to just to finish! Doing a second one feels extra special because I have proved to myself that I can do more than I think. Hope I can remember this when I’m recovering from the surgery and trying to get fit again. (It’s a preventative double mastectomy and reconstruction so I will be laid up for a while).
10/6: 4.08m
10/10: 8.3m
10/12: 3.1m
10/14: 10.1m
10/21: 10.05m
10/25: 6.6m
10/27: 13.2m
October total: 55.3m
October goal: 64m
September total: 82.2m
August total: 85m
July total: 90.1m
June total: 86.1m
May total: 67.6m
April total: 71.5m
March total: 42.9m
February total: 30.2m
January total: 31.7m
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@polskagirl01 like the medal and the top! Congrats. Jealous also of you feeling fine after your double race weekend! I’m not walking with ease this evening and slightly dreading a full day teaching tomorrow...
Great job on your race!!! And best wishes on the surgery coming up. Hopefully you can get in a lot of running before then
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Great job on your races @polskagirl01 and @Faebert!0
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I'm getting caught up on adding miles.
Thurs. - 8.21 miles.
Sat. - did a 10K. Not fast, but was just there to have fun running with a Halloween costume (see pics from before and after the race)
Today - 12.23 miles slowly trying to stay at MAF pace. Wanted 15-20 miles, but just got too bored.
Costume 10K photos
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Congratulations @polskagirl01 and @Faebert!2
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October goal: 100 miles
10/1: 5.75 miles
10/2: 6.27 miles
10/5: 1.01 miles - warm up
3.14 miles - Old Rip 5k
10/8: 6.27 miles
10/9: 5.63 miles
10/13: 10.26 miles
10/15: 5.56 miles
10/16: 6.05 miles
10/17: 6.06 miles
10/20: 10.02 miles
10/22: 6.41 miles
10/23: 6.76 miles
10/24: 7.05 miles
10/27: 9.03 miles
101.51/100 miles completed
I had a great 9 mile run this morning. I had to get up early since we had to drive over to Irving today which is about a 2 hour drive so it was dark for most of the run and it was pretty chilly. But it wasn't wet so it was nice. And since we were spending at least 4 hours round trip in the car I definitely wanted to run even if it was cold and dark. I wore capri tights and sleeves and gloves and that was just right. Today's run puts me just over my goal for October. I should still have 3 more runs this week, but it looks like it might be cold and rainy so if it is at least I won't have be stressed about making my goal.
@T1DCarnivoreRunner Looks like it was a fun race!
2019 races:
2/2/19: Catch the Groundhog Half Marathon - PR 2:15:17
5/18/19: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon - Cancelled due to weather
10/5/19: Old Rip 5K - PR 27:27, 1st AG
11/9/19: Wags and Whiskers 5K
2020 races:
5/16/20: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon7 -
Congrats on your double race weekend @polskagirl01! Great job on the half.
Congrats on your half as well @Faebert! Excellent work meeting your goal time, that's great! Hope all goes well for you with the upcoming surgery.
@T1DCarnivoreRunner that looks like a really fun 10k. Nice!
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
10/01/19 :::: 4.8 :::: 4.8
10/02/19 :::: 3.0 :::: 7.8
10/03/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 7.8
10/04/19 :::: 3.1 :::: 10.8
10/05/19 :::: 10.1 :::: 21.0
10/06/19 :::: 1.0 :::: 22.0
10/07/19 :::: 2.7 :::: 24.7
10/08/19 :::: 3.4 :::: 28.1
10/09/19 :::: 3.2 :::: 31.2
10/10/19 :::: 2.2 :::: 33.4
10/11/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 33.4
10/12/19 :::: 5.1 :::: 38.5
10/13/19 :::: 3.2 :::: 41.7
10/14/19 :::: 3.4 :::: 45.1
10/15/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 45.1
10/16/19 :::: 3.0 :::: 48.1
10/17/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 48.1
10/18/19 :::: 1.2 :::: 49.3
10/19/19 :::: 13.2 :::: 62.5
10/20/19 :::: 13.3 :::: 75.8
10/21/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 75.8
10/22/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 75.8
10/23/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 75.8
10/24/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 75.8
10/25/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 75.8
10/26/19 :::: 3.6 :::: 79.4
10/27/19 :::: 2.5 :::: 82.0
I really had an excellent, though exhausting, weekend. After yesterday's events I was surprisingly not more sore than I had been, possibly less overall. My calves are a little more sore though from all the stair climbing. This morning was rainy but I met a friend for a short run and then we had coffee. It was a treat to catch up with her so I didn't mind that we got a little soggy in the process.
Then I went rock climbing! We took an intro belay class and then had a day pass to climb as long as we wanted. I had taken a class before but didn't get certified so I needed to do it again anyway, and 3 friends from the gym went along. We had a great time and we took on some higher rated climbs than I've done before, not always successfully but it was fun to try. It was really tiring!
I had to go to work for a while and then I took another walk with the dog to end the day. I'm very happy to be sitting with a glass of wine and getting ready to climb into bed early.
Hope everyone has a great end to the weekend and intro to the new week.10 -
What she said!ContraryMaryMary wrote: »Awesome work @polska_girl and @Faebert - good racing and great bling!
@kirstymm The bike incident sounds very frustrating. At least they could have apologized instead of laughing at the fact that you had to stop to wait for them to cross.
@Faebert Hope you upcoming surgery goes well and you recover quickly!
Today was a planned 6 mile run. I was dreading it, but actually it wasn't too bad. I did run on the treadmill while binge watching NCIS New Orleans. The treadmill helps me keep my pace down on my long runs so that they are "easy." I was pleased that I ran the 6 miles in 1:13:03 for a 12:10/mile pace. That's pretty good for me at this point.
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@quilteryoyo We are running twins today. I also ran 6 miles in almost the exact same amount of time!
This morning was 24F when I took the dogs for a walk at 7am, so I decided upon returning home to wait for my run. Instead I took a short nap. I went out for the run around noon, when it was a more reasonable 40F to start. It warmed up enough during my run that I stopped at home and changed from long to short sleeves, which were perfect.
It was nice to complete a "real" long run, for I haven't run even 5 miles at once in about three months. It definitely reminds me that I haven't been attending to my recovery properly though. More foam rolling and stretching is needed!8 -
October Goal: don't rage quit
10/1 rest
10/2 3.00
10/3 2.50
10/4 rest
10/5 2.10
10/6 stupid
10/7 old
10/8 woman
10/9 age
10/10 related
10/11 gut
10/12 issues
10/13 turtlepics
10/14 2.00
10/15 still cautious
10/16 3.50
10/17 Would have been Steve's 42nd birthday. Looked at lots of pictures...
10/18 3.00
10/19 meh
10/20 more meh
10/21 snorkel 3 hours
10/22 3.30
10/23 2.60
10/24 rest
10/25 2.50
10/26 worksuck
10/27 3.50
Total : 29.00
Wait!Wait! Don't Tell Me! has a "Listener Bluff" segment: this week it was decide which is the true running story....
Upcoming races:
Revel Kulia Half Marathon 1/18/20
Ticker is my goal for 2019 and progress to date:
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Wait!Wait! Don't Tell Me! has a "Listener Bluff" segment: this week it was decide which is the true running story....
Thanks for sharing - I love Wait! Wait! and this was a good one. I really wanted the other stories to be true though
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@zeesparrow That is so cool. It's almost my longest run this year. I did do a 10K in July, but I wasn't really ready to do that. Today was much easier. The July run being on a hard trail, outside, in the heat could have had something to do with that too.
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katharmonic wrote: »
Wait!Wait! Don't Tell Me! has a "Listener Bluff" segment: this week it was decide which is the true running story....
Thanks for sharing - I love Wait! Wait! and this was a good one. I really wanted the other stories to be true though
Oh, I will have to check that out. I do not often get to catch that show.0 -
katharmonic wrote: »
Wait!Wait! Don't Tell Me! has a "Listener Bluff" segment: this week it was decide which is the true running story....
Thanks for sharing - I love Wait! Wait! and this was a good one. I really wanted the other stories to be true though
Ha! Yes. I easily picked out the real one but was kind of hoping one of the others was true. Details in spoiler just in case...I really want the flash mobe one to be true honestly. That would have been great.0 -
Wait!Wait! Don't Tell Me! has a "Listener Bluff" segment: this week it was decide which is the true running story....
I heard this episode on Saturday. Wish I could say I picked the right one but I didn't!0 -
October Goal 100 miles
October 2 – 5.18 miles
October 4 – 10.7 miles
October 7 – 4.01 miles
October 8 – 4.51 miles
October 9 – 5 miles
October 11 – 12 miles
October 14 – 5.16 miles
October 16 – 5.01 miles
October 18 – 9.08 miles
October 21 – 4.0 miles
October 23 – 5.06 miles
October 26 – 11.40 miles
October 28 – 5.03 miles
Total – 86.14 miles
It started raining around mile 8 of Saturday's long run but it wasn't too chilly so it felt fine. This morning was a nice 47F and my long sleeve tech shirt and capris were just right. Going to fall short of my goal this month. I could push it and work another run in this week but I have my bootcamp post-test tomorrow afternoon and a 10 mile race on Sunday so I'm having a hard time convincing myself to do so. I'm pretty sure the world will keep turning if I don't make my MFP mileage goal....4 -
Ooh, something I can wade in on since still not running (and getting frustrated that I can’t even WALK for long, given that the mornings are now bright and crispy and biting cold – just the weather I adore for an early morning run or walk in the countryside)
@Elise4270 I’ve always been firmly in the omnivore camp, but lately have been toying with the vegetarian idea, partly as I’m trying to eat up store cupboard food before moving house, and to save money. The few times I’ve tried a week or so of veggie, I find myself feeling sick and almost needing meat to get back on track. Not sure why.
I’m always sceptical of the so-called health benefits, as it’s easy enough to be an unhealthy vegan. I also don’t like over-processed foods, so fake-meat products aren’t going to cut it for me. Lentils and chickpeas are fine, beans are so-so. I don’t think I could properly give up dairy. I love lots of vegetables so that part is fine, I don’t eat a lot of bread, and grains are good. I had a meat mezze last night and it was meh. Just meh. Not sure why. I go through phases where food just has no interest for me (maybe I shouldn’t eat during those times?)
I hear a lot about the environmental impact of meat on the world. And how going vegan could save the planet. But I genuinely want to know if making all the farming vegan includes all the sides of mountain grazed by sheep, and where the nitrates for fertilizers are going to come from other than out of cows bottoms? I’m genuinely interested in the data.
I guess I’m an omnivore because I prefer more sustainable farming practises such as those by Joel Salatin in the book ‘the Omnivore’s Dilemma’. I’m grateful to like in a country where cows eat grass pretty much as standard, and I can’t get my head around how if we all went vegan, that too wouldn’t cause irreparable damage to the world around us.
Health-wise, I’m probably going to eat mostly plants, but with a side of meat now and then.
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PastorVincent wrote: »Didn't @MNLittleFinn give up animal? He's a beast.
Pretty sure he went Keto or Low Carb, just like @JessicaMcBride
nope, I eat everything. taking the time needed for rebuilding after getting into ketosis just didn't fit into my schedule. Oddly enough, I am on a vegetarian kick right nw, but that's to help break the psychological bonds of Hardee's hamburgers.5 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Didn't @MNLittleFinn give up animal? He's a beast.
Pretty sure he went Keto or Low Carb, just like @JessicaMcBride
nope, I eat everything. taking the time needed for rebuilding after getting into ketosis just didn't fit into my schedule. Oddly enough, I am on a vegetarian kick right nw, but that's to help break the psychological bonds of Hardee's hamburgers.
Ah so you WERE but no longer are. Okay
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Diet for me is much harder than most because there are so many random foods I can not eat (Wheat, Garlic, Onion, Honey Dew Mellons, Blue Berries, Beans, etc) I just try to eat a variety of what I can and hope for the best. It ends up being like 40-50% carbs, and while I would prefer fewer carbs and more fat, that is just not practical for me currently.
Diet, like running shoes, is very personal to the person doing the eating. SO long as you are getting all the raw materials (vitamins, minerals, etc) and enough fuel (fat/protein/carbs) there is a LOT of room for variability and flexibility.3 -
This RR will be in two parts. I don't have time to write it in one sitting and I'm afraid I'll lose it if I come back tonight to finish it.
Race Report - Part 1
Glacier Hills 50K
Newton Hills State Park
Canton, SD (just south of Sioux Falls)
October 26, 2019, 6:00 AM Start
This race was awesome! I blew past my stretch goal and more importantly, I had a fantastic time. After such a rough start to the year with respect to races (DNF on my biggest race and two very slow finishes, my last three have really boosted my confidence and spirits, and give me hope for my long term goals.
This was my 5th race in the last 8 weekends and my 2nd ultra in 2 weeks.
A few days before this race, after analyzing the my recent races, my recent training, and the estimated difficulty of this race, I had a notion that I might have a chance of setting a 50K PR. For the most part, PR's between different ultras don't make much sense because there is so much different between different races it's like apples and oranges. Still, it's a benchmark, and with a perfect weather forecast, I saw a chance, and it greatly increased my anticipation.
Race Description
This race has three distance options, 20K, 30K, and 50K.
Cutoff time for the 50K is 8 hours
Course is a 10K double-loop run multiple times.
Average gain/loss of 120 feet mile, which I consider on the lower end of moderately hilly. For comparison, my Loopet Loppet two weeks earlier had an average of 80 feet per mile and the Eugene Curnow Trail marathon back in July had 115 feet per mile.
I found the loop on Strava as a segment so I knew what to expect and developed a plan on to approach it. This is described below.
This is just the 5th year for this race. It's quite a small race, averaging just 20 runners in each of the last two years and just 11 in the two years before that (plus the 20K and 30K participants).
This year the 50K had 41 runners, making it the smallest race I've ever been in.
In spite of the small field, it was a very well supported race, helped in part by having a main aid station at the start and end of each loop so you pass it twice on each loop.
The Course - We ran the 2 mile south loop first, then the 4 mile north loop, both counterclockwise. The north loop was a horse trail. The aid station was in the middle of the start & stop points:
Training
None, at least not specifically for this race. All training was a carry-over from my 12 Hour Loopet Loppet two weeks prior. Though I had this race on my radar, I registered 8 days prior to the race, only after I knew I would be recovered well enough to finish.
Travel & Packet Pickup
Friday, after an unproductive day at work, I left at 1pm to make the 3.5 hour drive to Sioux Falls, with a few planned stops.
First stop was at the Mankato Brewery where I stopped for a flight of beers. The last time I was here Iloved the beers but this time it was just ok. One beer, called "Cake'd Up" was described as a "Festbier". They should have described it better...it actually tasted like birthday cake!!! What the heck! It was one of those beers that you have to try, but I has to force myself to finish the 4 oz taster glass.
The next stop was in Sioux Falls for packet pickup at a fancy outdoor store downtown (lots of high dollar clothes like Patagonia) where I picked up my bib, my awesomely soft and perfectly fitting hoodie, and a race logo sticker.
One of the sponsors of the race was a brewery called Woodgrain Brewery and it was only 2 blocks away. It's a taphouse, meaning they only serve their beer and no food, but they do allow you to bring food in from outside. I stopped a place called Fiero Pizza where they could cook a personal thin crust pizza for you in 2 minutes. I got one with sausage, pepperoni, Canadian bacon, regular bacon and chicken, along with onions, green olives and tomatoes on a regular crust. (Speaking of Canadians, where the heck has @juliet3455 been?!?!) I took that beautiful pizza and walked another block to the brewery where I enjoyed it with a wonderful Czech Pils. I wanted more, but alas, I still had a couple of stops to make and a 45 minute drive to the park where I was going to spend the night.
From there it was a stop at a liquor store to see if I could find any new or hard to find bourbons (I found 3), then to the grocery store to buy bagels for my traditional pre-race breakfast. I also found some donut holes half price and bought those as well....chocolate and sugar cinnamon, yum!. Finally I stopped at a gas station to fill up my thermos full of coffee. If I first fill it with hot water to heat up the inside, then fill it with hot coffee, it will stay hot enough to drink the next morning, saving me the time of making coffee the next morning.
Finally, on to the park! Newton Hills State Park is about 45 minutes south of Sioux Falls. I had a camper cabin reserved for just $45 and was looking forward to sleeping in luxury, relative to my truck tent. The cabin was spartan, but perfectly cozy for my purpose. I immediately regretted not taking the entire day off. I'd would have enjoyed having a bonfire outside the cabin, sipping bourbon and pondering life.
Here I'm wearing the blue hoodie we got as swag.
I unloaded everything from my truck, pulled out everything I'd need for the next day, when through my lists for the third time and organized my running belt and drop box, then returned what I could back to my truck. Before bed I spent some time reading and having a bourbon night cap from the speed cup I use for racing. I set two alarms, 5 minutes apart and put the volume on the maximum.
I was wide awake, in spite of the bourbon, beer and pizza, but eventually fell into a deep sleep and had a dream where I was in an abandoned house and every so often a vehicle would drive by and we'd have to drop to the floor because they were looking for us. weird....
Race Prep
My first alarm was set for 4:10 AM. I woke up on my own at 4:09. I HATE when that happens! Up and at 'em! My first move is for my thermos of coffee. The next move was for donut holes.
I got dressed, packed up everything, then drove to the one bathroom with running water to take care of business and put in my contacts. Back to the cabin, lube up, load up, then a short drive to the race start. I got to the start just 9 minutes before the race so not a lot of time to hang out and talk to folks. I dropped off my drop box on the designated tarp then noticed they were setting up the aid station already so I went there to see how things were laid out and what they had available. It was the usual aid station fare of candy, fruit, bars, water, Scratch hydration drink, coffee, soda, hot broth, cookies, and a few surprises later on. Yes, eating is a larger part of ultra races.
Since the race was set up with multiple short loops I treated this like my 12 hour race two weeks earlier, which had a 5 mile loop and used the same packing list, with minor adjustments such as having my trekking poles in my drop box in case I wanted them for a later loop (never used them) and bringing what I would need for the overnight stay. Since I would never be more then 4 miles away from the aid station or my drop bag, and it was cool out, I left my hydration vest in my drop box and wore my running belt to carry just my phone and a few gels. I also brought an empty soft flask in my belt in case I decided to carry water or a hydration beverage later in the race.
The forecast looked perfect for a race, 36F at the start, warming to 50's and no rain. This meant shorts, short sleeve shirt, arm sleeves, a buff, wind layer, and light gloves. The wind layer and buff came off after just a couple of miles after I warmed up and the sleeves came off after the 3rd loop. The gloves came off and back on as needed.
My Salomon Sense Max 2 trail shoes have become my favorite shoes to race in and those are what I wore that day, along with Drymax mini-crew trail socks.
Race Strategy
As I mentioned in a previous post, in order to get a PR I needed to average a 12:30/mile pace throughout the race. Expecting a typical slowdown as the miles took their toll, I figured I'd need a pace of 11:30/mile for the first three loops to be successful.
Other strategies were to carry as little as possible, stop at the aid station at every chance to at least drink some hydration beverage and power hike at least one mile for a warm up.
The course elevation looked like this:
While there are three big climbs and a smaller climb which would likely have to be hiked, there is also plenty of flat and downhill to make up time. I particularly liked the looks of the big downhill at the end of the loop. I saw this as a section I could push if I needed to, to make my pace goals.
The thing about elevation charts, though, is that it's hard to translate what you see on the screen to what you see on the trail because the Y-axis scale, the elevation, is not standard for each race. The hills can look easier or harder depending on the scale of the Y-axis. Still, you read into it what you can, try to find race reports to describe it and take it as it comes. In this case, after the first loop I'd know what to expect and could adjust my strategy accordingly. As it turns out, I had this course elevation right in my head from the start, with the exception that the trail on one of the big hills was a quagmire of mud which required more time and effort than expected.
Pre Race
A couple minutes before 6AM we were called to the start area. A few pre-race announcements, and the countdown began. 5-4-3-2-1 GO!
And we were off...
Stay tune for Part 2!15 -
This race was awesome! I blew past my stretch goal and more importantly, I had a fantastic time. After such a rough start to the year with respect to races (DNF on my biggest race and two very slow finishes, my last three have really boosted my confidence and spirits, and give me hope for my long term goals.
This was my 5th race in the last 8 weekends and my 2nd ultra in 2 weeks.
Wow! Well done!!0 -
I have recently started C25K.....My goal is to finish this month at W7R2. ...
Goal met: I finished W7R2 this morning.
There is a chance I may get in one more run (W7R3) before the end of the month but I'm traveling this week so that may not happen.
Thanks everyone, for providing such a supportive environment here with this challenge.
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I was wide awake, in spite of the bourbon, beer and pizza, but eventually fell into a deep sleep and had a dream where I was in an abandoned house and every so often a vehicle would drive by and we'd have to drop to the floor because they were looking for us. weird...
I love the photo at the end! Thanks for such a comprehensive report.
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@7lenny7 Congratulations! Love the report so far; looking forward to part 2!2
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