November 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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PastorVincent wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »
Another suggestion, one I personally do, is to buy TRAIL RUNNING SHOES and use them for running in the snow and ice. They do far better than street shoes and do not have metal screws in them so if you want to duck into a store/coffee shop/etc you do not have to worry about scratching up floors/etc.
I use Salomon mission XR because they are the best rated for over probation that i could find. They are great!2 -
Today is long run day. It’s also the day in my program that I run eight minutes straight. I am feeling excited and anxious and at the same time like staying in bed and watching TV all day would be more fun.
But I’m going to do it.
I am almost done with the book Born to Run and I can’t help wonder why we aren’t all running barefoot6 -
Camaramandy648 wrote: »Today is long run day. It’s also the day in my program that I run eight minutes straight. I am feeling excited and anxious and at the same time like staying in bed and watching TV all day would be more fun.
But I’m going to do it.
I am almost done with the book Born to Run and I can’t help wonder why we aren’t all running barefoot
Because not all of us are made with feet for it. I have done much barefoot running, but it is not the magic pill that is made out to be. Some people will greatly benefit from doing SOME barefoot running as it helps teach you not to slap the ground so hard with your feet, and overall helps teach better form, but given the greatly varied terrain and temperatures we cover AND the various foot/ankle differences we are born with, it is not for everyone, and many people will get hurt if they try it for extended periods.
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@rheddmobile I'm still bummed with you about your stuff
Hope you can find some good replacement gear (and the funds to cover it all). 4 -
PastorVincent wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »Today is long run day. It’s also the day in my program that I run eight minutes straight. I am feeling excited and anxious and at the same time like staying in bed and watching TV all day would be more fun.
But I’m going to do it.
I am almost done with the book Born to Run and I can’t help wonder why we aren’t all running barefoot
Because not all of us are made with feet for it. I have done much barefoot running, but it is not the magic pill that is made out to be. Some people will greatly benefit from doing SOME barefoot running as it helps teach you not to slap the ground so hard with your feet, and overall helps teach better form, but given the greatly varied terrain and temperatures we cover AND the various foot/ankle differences we are born with, it is not for everyone, and many people will get hurt if they try it for extended periods.
I think it would be fun to try it but I’m already a pretty clumsy person so i could imagine finding a way to rip a toe off on the trail.
I overpronate but the book implies that over probation has more to do with wearing shoes than it does the ankle.
Still, I am hesitant to run barefoot in the cold or on a trail.
I might just try to focus on not letting my feet slap anyway0 -
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Reading about all this cold weather is making me feel a bit smug. We had a lovely 24°C (which Google tells me is 75°F) today, which is very unusual for November. We often have snow by now as well, but this year is super mild, makes enjoying the autumn colours really lovely.
Had a lovely run in the first this afternoon, nice and slow, but am still annoyed by my phone. On Monday it recorded my run as 9.1km. Today I did the same route, plus an extra five minutes as it was getting dark and I got spooked, and it recorded it as 7.75km. WTF! Can't wait to get a watch! Should be getting one for my birthday next month.
Runs this week:
04/11: 9.14km
05/11: 5km
09/11: who knows?! Will log it as 8km.
Runs last week: 11.26km
Total so far: 33.4km
Target: 100km
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@Camaramandy648 - the PT I worked with when I had the stress fracture in my foot earlier this year told me the best thing you can do for your feet is go barefoot. He was not talking about running, but about walking around at home. As he put it you need to let your feet do what they were designed to do and that is how they will become stronger.
My current PT is working with me to strength the entire chain from hips and glutes down and get me out of the orthotics I have worn for many years. I had already switched to only wearing them for running and now have been running my shorter runs without them and it is amazing how much better it feels. I have had foot and ankle problems all my life and wore special shoes even as a child. I think the theory has been that you need to provide extra support, rather than fixing where the problem was.5 -
Hi Everyone,
Sorry I've missed you all this week. I decided to take a week off from running to give my body and my mind a break from it before jumping into a 15 week HM training plan which starts tomorrow. I actually feel no improvement in aches and sort of feel anxious and bored without running.
I hope you are all having a wonderful November with moderate temperatures, good runs, and lot of pumpkin flavored stuff.
My training plan calls for 90.5miles for the last 3 weeks of the month. I don't know how well my muscles and bones will respond to tomorrow's 5 miles run since I haven't ran since last Thursday. So this week might be a little touch and go with the distances and paces.9 -
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rheddmobile wrote: »
Bingo!
OK obscure reference probably but I know its winter up there when someone mentions screw shoes lol!
Wow I've been part of this group for over a year now!9 -
Camaramandy648 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »Today is long run day. It’s also the day in my program that I run eight minutes straight. I am feeling excited and anxious and at the same time like staying in bed and watching TV all day would be more fun.
But I’m going to do it.
I am almost done with the book Born to Run and I can’t help wonder why we aren’t all running barefoot
Because not all of us are made with feet for it. I have done much barefoot running, but it is not the magic pill that is made out to be. Some people will greatly benefit from doing SOME barefoot running as it helps teach you not to slap the ground so hard with your feet, and overall helps teach better form, but given the greatly varied terrain and temperatures we cover AND the various foot/ankle differences we are born with, it is not for everyone, and many people will get hurt if they try it for extended periods.
I think it would be fun to try it but I’m already a pretty clumsy person so i could imagine finding a way to rip a toe off on the trail.
I overpronate but the book implies that over probation has more to do with wearing shoes than it does the ankle.
Still, I am hesitant to run barefoot in the cold or on a trail.
I might just try to focus on not letting my feet slap anyway
I've tried barefoot running, and after only 2 sessions I'm pretty much lame. I also over pronate and have flattish feet to start with. So nope, I'm gonna fork out for shoes cause I like walking.
I kinda see that book like any self help/diet book. Pick and choose the best stuff to help you and ignore the rest. Just like shoes, there is no one size fits all.8 -
@quilteryoyo thanks! I originally started training for the Queenstown Marathon which is in a couple of weeks, but when I went to register I found there was no accommodation left in the city for the race weekend (at least none that I could afford) so that plan went out the window for this year. I decided since I'm already training I would run a full marathon on my own on New Years Eve instead. I traditionally run a HM on NYE so I thought why not go for the full this year.
@PastorVincent thanks! I agree about not relying on aid stations. In all the races I've done I can recall only stopping to take water once. I like having my own water supply so I can take my gels on schedule, not when the aid station happens to be6 -
Race report;
Well this is my first race and I wasn't actually racing so I haven't got much to report. It was the most straight forward half marathon I could find with minimal inclines. Thank you to the jogging gods who decided to keep the rain to less than 5 minutes though the downside was the winds that pushed the clouds past also pushed me backwards as I had to chase my cap around after it took off.
Everything I planned changed almost immediately. My stash of Jelly babies in the rear pocket of my jogging bottoms were dragging said bottoms lower with each stride so they had to be removed which led to the jelly baby massacre as they were scattered in the wind and gathered by nearby gulls. I threw away the water bottle in the first mile as it was so annoying sloshing around, regretted that later as the water stops were difficult for me as I struggled to take on much from the paper cups. Aside from that I just let my body do what it wanted up to 10 miles and it kept a steady pace of between 10 mins and 10:20 per mile. The last three miles were a little tougher and it was a case of telling myself I would be bonkers to not keep going for the last bit as the pace dropped to 10:30 to 10:40 a mile.
I wasn't after a time though I was happy with the chip time of 2:17:47 which is a little quicker than my app time as I started the app before the start and couldn't get my gloves off to stop it at the end.
No swag to talk about other than the medal. Still a very worthwhile day generating funds for a very worthwhile cause.
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10 total miles today. I take Shadow for a 2 mile run then drove to a wetlands area to do my remaining 8. (I'm doing a County challenge 100 miles in 100 Days so using this to kick off my 100 miles).
Ugh, photos don't seem to be working on my phone. I'll update photos in a few minutes.
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Love the train @TheMrWobbly! Good job pushing through the last few miles!
@RunsOnEspresso That looks like a wonderful place for a run, and a great hydration vest
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@noblsheep
Thanks for the running form and drills post! I do strength training already - so far, it didn't do any miracles, so I think I really should do something targeted at running form. So now I've ordered elastic bands to try those stationary drills.
In principle I know about drills like skips and butt kicks too, but somehow I never do them
Something I should change too! 4 -
@JMNagain If the distance really bugs you, you can go on mapmyrun (on a laptop - doesn't work well on phone) and draw your route (click "create route") and see how far it was. That's what I did the other day when I ended up impromptu running without my Garmin (my Fitbit charge 3 is way off on distances).
My toe is lightly bruised and sore to touch but doesn't hurt to walk. In fact I walked each dog a mile today then walked probably 3.5 miles with my husband for a total of 5.5 miles so I shouldn't be missing my run tomorrow. Oh, and I let my dachshund run a little to test it out and that didn't hurt either.8 -
Didn't have high hopes for this run. Was feeling sick Friday night and this morning, head and stomach. But 20 was on the plan, and I had no other opportunities to run this weekend. My butt was running long before my feet were (if you know what I mean 😟). So I decided to run 2 10-mile loops that would take me by the house so I would have a chance to use the bathroom. But at around 5 miles the wife called and said our out of town guests were arriving soon. So I changed routes and continued to the park on the other side of town. I am almost more proud of not having to use a restroom for 3+ hours as I am for running 20 miles.
Unfortunately I am supposed to do this again next weekend 🤪
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PastorVincent wrote: »Love the train @TheMrWobbly! Good job pushing through the last few miles!
@RunsOnEspresso That looks like a wonderful place for a run, and a great hydration vest
It has so many pockets! LOL1 -
TheMrWobbly wrote: »Race report;
Well this is my first race and I wasn't actually racing so I haven't got much to report. It was the most straight forward half marathon I could find with minimal inclines. Thank you to the jogging gods who decided to keep the rain to less than 5 minutes though the downside was the winds that pushed the clouds past also pushed me backwards as I had to chase my cap around after it took off.
Everything I planned changed almost immediately. My stash of Jelly babies in the rear pocket of my jogging bottoms were dragging said bottoms lower with each stride so they had to be removed which led to the jelly baby massacre as they were scattered in the wind and gathered by nearby gulls. I threw away the water bottle in the first mile as it was so annoying sloshing around, regretted that later as the water stops were difficult for me as I struggled to take on much from the paper cups. Aside from that I just let my body do what it wanted up to 10 miles and it kept a steady pace of between 10 mins and 10:20 per mile. The last three miles were a little tougher and it was a case of telling myself I would be bonkers to not keep going for the last bit as the pace dropped to 10:30 to 10:40 a mile.
I wasn't after a time though I was happy with the chip time of 2:17:47 which is a little quicker than my app time as I started the app before the start and couldn't get my gloves off to stop it at the end.
No swag to talk about other than the medal. Still a very worthwhile day generating funds for a very worthwhile cause.
That’s amazing! Doing a half for your first race, that’s jumping in at the deep end! Nice time, and you learned something about what works and doesn’t work as far as fuel and hydration.
A lot of people suggest to walk through the hydration stations, it gives you a break and doesn’t take much extra time.7 -
rheddmobile wrote: »That’s amazing! Doing a half for your first race, that’s jumping in at the deep end! Nice time, and you learned something about what works and doesn’t work as far as fuel and hydration.
A lot of people suggest to walk through the hydration stations, it gives you a break and doesn’t take much extra time.
Yes, I recommend this all the time, especially for newer racers. No, it really will not impact your time much (I mean unless you think you can win the race, but if you are in that category, why are you listening to me? LOL) - in fact, you may run a FASTER race because you slowed down to hydrate and fuel properly.
As you build in experience you will learn what works for you best, but I know many racers that are far faster than that do this, and if you ever get into the ultra crowd, they turn the aid stations into mini impromptu social gatherings.
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November Goal: 80 Miles
11/3: 11.02 miles
11/5: 6.55 miles
11/6: 6.51 miles
11/9: 1.54 miles warm up
11/9: 3.24 miles Wags and Whiskers 5K
28.86/80 miles completed
Today was the Wags and Whiskers 5K. This was my 3rd year to run it. It was a perfect day for running. About 45°F, sunny and no wind. I wore shorts and a t-shirt and it was just right. This race is at the park near my home so I just ran up there for my warm up and had my husband meet me there. I felt like I ran really well today. I had negative splits. My average pace was 8:31. Garmin gave me a 5K PR of 26:36. My official time was 27:33 chip time and 27:36 gun time. Garmin showed the course to be 3.24 which is what it showed last year too. My overall Garmin time was 27:36 which matched the gun time. I don't really know if I should count it as a PR or not, but I do. I think the course is long. And when I ran a HM that gave me an official time of 2:12 I didn't count that because that course was short and I used my Garmin number of 2:15 which was still a PR. Either way I ran it faster than last year on this same course by 2 minutes and ~30 seconds. There was a new woman in my age group who was really fast and so I ended up with 2nd AG and 4th overall woman. I was still pleased and I did get a medal which was nice because they only give medal to those who place not to everyone.
After the race we could not find our car keys so we had a bit of a panic looking for them. They had fallen out of my husbands pocket when he was taking pictures and then ran over to the finish. Somehow we managed to find them buried in the pecan leaves.
2019 races:
2/2/19: Catch the Groundhog Half Marathon - PR 2:15:17
5/18/19: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon - Cancelled due to weather
10/5/19: Old Rip 5K - PR 27:27, 1st AG
11/9/19: Wags and Whiskers 5K 2nd AG, 4th Woman, 5K PR - 26:36
2020 races:
5/16/20: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon17 -
Today was the Wags and Whiskers 5K. This was my 3rd year to run it. It was a perfect day for running. About 45°F, sunny and no wind. I wore shorts and a t-shirt and it was just right. This race is at the park near my home so I just ran up there for my warm up and had my husband meet me there. I felt like I ran really well today. I had negative splits. My average pace was 8:31. Garmin gave me a 5K PR of 26:36. My official time was 27:33 chip time and 27:36 gun time. Garmin showed the course to be 3.24 which is what it showed last year too. My overall Garmin time was 27:36 which matched the gun time. I don't really know if I should count it as a PR or not, but I do. I think the course is long. And when I ran a HM that gave me an official time of 2:12 I didn't count that because that course was short and I used my Garmin number of 2:15 which was still a PR. Either way I ran it faster than last year on this same course by 2 minutes and ~30 seconds. There was a new woman in my age group who was really fast and so I ended up with 2nd AG and 4th overall woman. I was still pleased and I did get a medal which was nice because they only give medal to those who place not to everyone.
Great job!
As for the PR, you can always call it a course PR if you do not feel you earned an overall PR.
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PastorVincent wrote: »Today was the Wags and Whiskers 5K. This was my 3rd year to run it. It was a perfect day for running. About 45°F, sunny and no wind. I wore shorts and a t-shirt and it was just right. This race is at the park near my home so I just ran up there for my warm up and had my husband meet me there. I felt like I ran really well today. I had negative splits. My average pace was 8:31. Garmin gave me a 5K PR of 26:36. My official time was 27:33 chip time and 27:36 gun time. Garmin showed the course to be 3.24 which is what it showed last year too. My overall Garmin time was 27:36 which matched the gun time. I don't really know if I should count it as a PR or not, but I do. I think the course is long. And when I ran a HM that gave me an official time of 2:12 I didn't count that because that course was short and I used my Garmin number of 2:15 which was still a PR. Either way I ran it faster than last year on this same course by 2 minutes and ~30 seconds. There was a new woman in my age group who was really fast and so I ended up with 2nd AG and 4th overall woman. I was still pleased and I did get a medal which was nice because they only give medal to those who place not to everyone.
Great job!
As for the PR, you can always call it a course PR if you do not feel you earned an overall PR.
A PR is a PR!!!!!
Well done!
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Congrats on your race @TheMrWobbly! Well done.
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
11/01/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 0.0
11/02/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 0.0
11/03/19 :::: 3.1 :::: 3.1
11/04/19 :::: 3.3 :::: 6.5
11/05/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 6.5
11/06/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 6.5
11/07/19 :::: 2.5 :::: 9.0
11/08/19 :::: 3.0 :::: 12.0
11/09/19 :::: 4.5 :::: 16.5
First cold morning run, at about 25 F with a little remaining snow on the ground. I had to dig through to find the appropriate cold weather gear, and I think I overshot a little but not too bad. Thankfully the sun was out and the trail around the lakes is fairly sheltered from the wind. Still, I'm not really prepared for this yet.
Tomorrow's race will give me a chance to work on that! More of the same weather, more time out in it! I'm hoping there might be some spectators handing out something warm along the way, like cocoa or a shot of fireball 7 -
@kgirlhart congrats on your race! I'd go with the official chip time personally but either way, excellent work!3
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Commitments for November:
1) Run at least 36 miles
2) Walk at least 36 miles 80 miles 100 miles
3) Finish the last 2 weeks of Active's C25K program
4) Finish the first 2 weeks of Active's 5K to 10K program
Date......Walk......Run
11/01.....6.11.......2.21
11/02.....2.72.......0.00
11/03.....4.20.......2.58
11/04.....2.71.......0.00
11/05.....6.65.......2.33
11/06.....7.83.......0.00
11/07.....4.35.......2.54
11/08.....5.91.......0.00
11/09.....4.87.......2.73
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@kgirlhart congrats on your PR! Yes, that is a PR!
@TheMrWobbly Congratulations on your race as well! A HM for your first race is a big swing, and you nailed it! Great job!5 -
@TheMrWobbly Way to go on your half! I LOL'd at your jelly baby massacre description
@RunsOnEspresso Those are beautiful pictures
@Scott6255 Nice job gutting out the 20 miles while having GI issues!
@kgirlhart Congratulations on the AG place, that's a great time3
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