Coronavirus prep
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »
That’s my question... because, I admit quite selfishly, I don’t want to use my pretty fabric if they are just going to be tossedbmeadows380 wrote: »@AnnPT77 my pastor just put out a call saying his wife is asking church members to help her make masks based upon a few patterns she's found online. Are these masks considered disposable, or can they be washed and re-used, or bleached or something?
I have a resource for quite a bit of older fabric I was told I could have, though!
ETA: thanks for the added info! I was posting and hubby came in from work so there was a few minutes lag, enough time for others to chime in!
My mother and I were just laughing yesterday about people making fabric masks. We're pretty sure every quilter on the planet of Earth is probably chortling about how this is the time they've been waiting for all their lives--a deep societal need for items made from all the fabric remnants they've been stashing for years!
I know the introverts thought this was their time to shine, but it looks like it's the quilters that are going to save the world!
Being a crafter myself, I feel like the Venn diagram of quilters and introverts has a pretty decent-sized overlap.
There are a bunch of introverts who don't quilt . . . but my experience suggests that quite a fraction of quilters are introverts.
My mother quilted at home alone, but for my grandmother, aunt, and sister, it is at least in part a social pursuit. Of course they work on stuff at home alone, but they also work together on projects with other people, sometimes quilting a single quilt together (what used to be called a quilting bee), other times getting together for classes on new techniques for making blocks, or going on trips together to various quilting destinations, gathering for quilt shows, etc.
Respectfully, I don't think socializing (or not) is the measure of introversion.
I'm extremely very introverted, and I socialize - I'm kind of OK at it, actually, happily talking to strangers, being assertive when needful, have plenty friends of various cognitive styles, all that stuff. Yes, most crafters have gatherings available to them, and they're well-attended. I attend some (local and statewide versions), plus regional/national shows and whatnot for my crafts. That's fun.
In my understanding, and oversimplifying, introversion vs. extroversion is more about mental orientation toward one's own thoughts and perceptions, vs. orientation to external interactions. Still overgeneralizing, introverts tend to spend energy while socializing, while extroverts gain energy while socializng. On that same cartoonish kind of continuum, introverts are more likely to feel contented in solo activity, and extroverts more likely to become bored more rapidly. Most people are at no particular extreme of these, but are on some kind of continuum, sometimes in different spots at different times/situations.
I'm not saying that no extrovert quilts/crafts. They do. But, based on the pretty large number of crafters I know - including quilters, which I have in the past been one of myself - the percentage of introverts is higher in the crafts-hobby world than in the overall population. (Yes, this is not a scientific sample.) This is the case even among the crafters I know who are quite social, i.e., pursue lots of group crafting activities.
Bringing this whole tiresome ramble back to the thread: I'm at home alone, watching local friends through Facebook, phone calls, text messages, etc.
Those more introverted are sometimes very anxious about the virus and what will happen, but otherwise kind of "it's a pain that I don't get to see my friends for crafting except on Skype/Zoom, but at least I have plenty of supplies, so meh". The extroverts are much more clearly under stress from isolation, even those who don't live alone. They're posting things like (real quote) "I miss hugs from everyone. Sorry just feeling so isolated." And that's someone who's more self aware: Some of my friends are obviously working out distress through things like unfocused anger, over-drinking, etc.
I don't understand in my gut how it feels to be an extrovert, but I sympathize with (and am concerned for) my more extroverted friends, in a different way than I'm concerned for my more introverted friends.
Point taken on introvert/extrovert being an internal state. I made my judgment based on what I saw in people seeking out social situations and appearing to genuinely enjoy them, and assuming that was a reflection of genuine desire for social interaction, which to me seems like an odd desire to have on a fairly regular basis (typically the quilters I know have gone to at least one weekly quilt-related social event, on top of other social things in their life) if it's a draining experience. But I don't think most of us know that many people well enough to really know what's going on inside their heads. I don't doubt some of them are faking enjoyment in social situations. I fake it sometimes myself. But I don't usually seek out on a repeating basis situations in which I have to fake enjoyment and disguise the fact that it's a draining experience.
Not to belabor it, but I think that just like I don't really understand what it feels like to be an extrovert, you may not be as attuned to introversion. Obviously, different people feel differently, regardless of where they are on that continuum, so I'm not going to psychoanalyze anyone else.
Speaking for myself: I'm strongly introverted by nature, but I enjoy social situations (not faking), to a certain extent, just as (I suspect) many/most extroverts enjoy being alone sometimes. I do lots of things that take energy, and enjoy them. Socializing is one of those. It's stimulating and fun, but it takes energy. At a certain point, I burn out on it, get overloaded, whatever you want to call it, and need to recharge nonsocially. I go to, and enjoy, local craft group meetings weekly (plus), no faking or disguising anything involved.
But this is off-topic to the thread, other than the observation that, as one of the memes joked, introverts have been "Training for this stay-at-home order their whole lives". (But it's a joke, right?
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You seem to be assuming I'm an extrovert, which just goes to my point about not knowing what's going on inside someone else's head.
Yes, I did, for which I apologize. I really can't understand being an introvert, but believing that (all?) introverts who socialize are doing something they would truly prefer not to do, or are faking social enjoyment. (<= This is a an admission of my limitations when it comes to understanding what's going on inside others' heads, not a critique of you.)
I'm sure there are some people who are far enough along the introversion continuum that they would not enjoy such social interactions at all, of course. By definition, it's less likely that I've met them at craft meetings/conferences. BTW, I'm not saying that my crafter friends are mostly introverts because I infer that; I'm saying it because it's a thing people talk about, and they've said that . . . and are posting about it in social media now, as people talk about impacts of isolation.1 -
Numbers are starting to increase even faster here: IL up to 4596+ (2026 in Chi alone, another 1419 in suburban Cook County), with 65 deaths (16 in Chi and 24 more in suburban Cook). Outside of Chicago metro, the next biggest cluster is the counties near St Louis, but they still have far fewer cases (or perhaps much less testing).4
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As to the introvert and extrovert discussion above, I think I am in the middle. I do draw energy from being around my people (aka friends and groups) but do not enjoy large groups of strangers. I go home and need to be alone to recharge. Dunno what that makes me. But I do know that my family - both kids and spouse are introverts. They do not seem to mind being self-quarantined. I am getting a bit stir crazy and missing my social groups.
I read this book called Quiet that was pretty helpful to understand them. Lots of research in there and very interesting.3 -
I was trying to figure out why they were saying masks weren’t useful, even if not 100% surely they would help at least a little (both keeping your germs in and other peoples out, plus making it near impossible to directly touch your nose and mouth inadvertently or out of habit) but it makes sense now...snowflake954 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »
Dummy me left both my homemade mask and hat at home yesterday when I finally ventured out to the grocery store for the first time in two weeks - if it weren’t 20 minutes from home, and needing to get in and out ASAP because kids were home alone, I would have gone back for them. (The hat because my germaphobe mind imagines cooties crawling around in my hair much like lice I guess). I sat in the car and seriously pondered what to do... ended up just taking a deep breath and headed in, strategically holding my breath when I passed people. Probably a feeble attempt at protecting myself but better than nothing (thankfully it wasn’t a madhouse).snowflake954 wrote: »@snowflake954 Lol! The mask is going to be the fashion accessory to have in 2020 and beyond.
Can't you just see the fashion models walking the catwalk next year in masks? We'll all be wearing them.
That is precisely what I pictured....."I'm too sexy for this mask.....too sexy for this mask....so sexy it hurts"
- Right Said Fred
I'm in the middle of my second book about the 1918 flu epidemic, and both talk about people starting to wear masks anytime they went out, and the first had photos of some US city (I forget which) in which everyone is wearing masks.
My sister took her dh shopping the other day, they both wore masks(you're not seeing it much here....yet). Somebody yelled across the aisle at her, telling her she's not supposed to be using them, they're for other people.
She's 75 and her dh is 80, has Alzheimer's. Seriously??? And I've offered to stay with him or get food for them countless times. But until Friday, when her dd sent her a couple more masks for extra caregivers to wear, she wouldn't allow me in their home.
If you read the CDC website, they do not recommend wearing masks...they are of little to no value to the general public in coronavirus protection. This is not an airborne virus and masks only really serve as a false sense of security. They are necessary for medical workers as they can obviously not socially distance themselves from their patients and there is more aerosol transfer in a hospital setting.
Sorry, but I can't agree with you. Masks are useful, if not essential. However, there are not enough to go around, so they tell you that you don't need one. After watching the panic buying of TP, you can imagine what would happen with masks. Watch the news coming out of China--everyone has a mask. In Milan, the director of the largest hospital there (which is overwhelmed with serious cases) was asked if masks are necessary. He paused, looked uncomfortable, and then said "I can't answer that question for you". It was so obvious. Lockdown will not be lifted in Italy until the general public has masks, and then we will be required to wear them. It will be interesting to watch the gymnastics of our leaders, who assured us that they aren't necessary. The general public isn't buying it. People out and about are all wearing masks--even if they have to make their own. Look at photos of the Spanish flu epidemic--people are wearing masks.
I read an article on medium.com (no clue about the site, it was via another platform and it made a lot of sense. This is the opening quote that I feel summarizes it decently (the article was far more detailed)
“The official recommendation in the United States (and other Western countries) that the public should not wear face masks was motivated by the need to save respirator masks for health care workers. There is no scientific support for the statement that masks worn by non-professionals are “not effective”. In contrary, in view of the stated goal to “flatten the curve”, any additional, however partial reduction of transmission would be welcome — even by surgical masks or home-made (DIY) masks, which would not exacerbate the supply problem. The latest biological findings on SARS-Cov-2 viral entry into human tissue and cough-droplet ballistics suggest that the major transmission mechanism are not fine aerosols but large droplets, and thus, warrant the wearing of surgical masks by everyone.”
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moonangel12 wrote: »
I was trying to figure out why they were saying masks weren’t useful, even if not 100% surely they would help at least a little (both keeping your germs in and other peoples out, plus making it near impossible to directly touch your nose and mouth inadvertently or out of habit) but it makes sense now...snowflake954 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »
Dummy me left both my homemade mask and hat at home yesterday when I finally ventured out to the grocery store for the first time in two weeks - if it weren’t 20 minutes from home, and needing to get in and out ASAP because kids were home alone, I would have gone back for them. (The hat because my germaphobe mind imagines cooties crawling around in my hair much like lice I guess). I sat in the car and seriously pondered what to do... ended up just taking a deep breath and headed in, strategically holding my breath when I passed people. Probably a feeble attempt at protecting myself but better than nothing (thankfully it wasn’t a madhouse).snowflake954 wrote: »@snowflake954 Lol! The mask is going to be the fashion accessory to have in 2020 and beyond.
Can't you just see the fashion models walking the catwalk next year in masks? We'll all be wearing them.
That is precisely what I pictured....."I'm too sexy for this mask.....too sexy for this mask....so sexy it hurts"
- Right Said Fred
I'm in the middle of my second book about the 1918 flu epidemic, and both talk about people starting to wear masks anytime they went out, and the first had photos of some US city (I forget which) in which everyone is wearing masks.
My sister took her dh shopping the other day, they both wore masks(you're not seeing it much here....yet). Somebody yelled across the aisle at her, telling her she's not supposed to be using them, they're for other people. She's 75 and her dh is 80, has Alzheimer's. Seriously??? And I've offered to stay with him or get food for them countless times. But until Friday, when her dd sent her a couple more masks for extra caregivers to wear, she wouldn't allow me in their home.
If you read the CDC website, they do not recommend wearing masks...they are of little to no value to the general public in coronavirus protection. This is not an airborne virus and masks only really serve as a false sense of security. They are necessary for medical workers as they can obviously not socially distance themselves from their patients and there is more aerosol transfer in a hospital setting.
Sorry, but I can't agree with you. Masks are useful, if not essential. However, there are not enough to go around, so they tell you that you don't need one. After watching the panic buying of TP, you can imagine what would happen with masks. Watch the news coming out of China--everyone has a mask. In Milan, the director of the largest hospital there (which is overwhelmed with serious cases) was asked if masks are necessary. He paused, looked uncomfortable, and then said "I can't answer that question for you". It was so obvious. Lockdown will not be lifted in Italy until the general public has masks, and then we will be required to wear them. It will be interesting to watch the gymnastics of our leaders, who assured us that they aren't necessary. The general public isn't buying it. People out and about are all wearing masks--even if they have to make their own. Look at photos of the Spanish flu epidemic--people are wearing masks.
I read an article on medium.com (no clue about the site, it was via another platform and it made a lot of sense. This is the opening quote that I feel summarizes it decently (the article was far more detailed)
“The official recommendation in the United States (and other Western countries) that the public should not wear face masks was motivated by the need to save respirator masks for health care workers. There is no scientific support for the statement that masks worn by non-professionals are “not effective”. In contrary, in view of the stated goal to “flatten the curve”, any additional, however partial reduction of transmission would be welcome — even by surgical masks or home-made (DIY) masks, which would not exacerbate the supply problem. The latest biological findings on SARS-Cov-2 viral entry into human tissue and cough-droplet ballistics suggest that the major transmission mechanism are not fine aerosols but large droplets, and thus, warrant the wearing of surgical masks by everyone.”
Two weeks ago we had a team of Chinese experts arrive to help with COV19 expertise. They were asked to come by the Italian government. They toured all facilities and talked to all our coordinaters here. One of the main points they made was that people are out in public without masks.14 -
snowflake954 wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »
I was trying to figure out why they were saying masks weren’t useful, even if not 100% surely they would help at least a little (both keeping your germs in and other peoples out, plus making it near impossible to directly touch your nose and mouth inadvertently or out of habit) but it makes sense now...snowflake954 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »
Dummy me left both my homemade mask and hat at home yesterday when I finally ventured out to the grocery store for the first time in two weeks - if it weren’t 20 minutes from home, and needing to get in and out ASAP because kids were home alone, I would have gone back for them. (The hat because my germaphobe mind imagines cooties crawling around in my hair much like lice I guess). I sat in the car and seriously pondered what to do... ended up just taking a deep breath and headed in, strategically holding my breath when I passed people. Probably a feeble attempt at protecting myself but better than nothing (thankfully it wasn’t a madhouse).snowflake954 wrote: »@snowflake954 Lol! The mask is going to be the fashion accessory to have in 2020 and beyond.
Can't you just see the fashion models walking the catwalk next year in masks? We'll all be wearing them.
That is precisely what I pictured....."I'm too sexy for this mask.....too sexy for this mask....so sexy it hurts"
- Right Said Fred
I'm in the middle of my second book about the 1918 flu epidemic, and both talk about people starting to wear masks anytime they went out, and the first had photos of some US city (I forget which) in which everyone is wearing masks.
My sister took her dh shopping the other day, they both wore masks(you're not seeing it much here....yet). Somebody yelled across the aisle at her, telling her she's not supposed to be using them, they're for other people. She's 75 and her dh is 80, has Alzheimer's. Seriously??? And I've offered to stay with him or get food for them countless times. But until Friday, when her dd sent her a couple more masks for extra caregivers to wear, she wouldn't allow me in their home.
If you read the CDC website, they do not recommend wearing masks...they are of little to no value to the general public in coronavirus protection. This is not an airborne virus and masks only really serve as a false sense of security. They are necessary for medical workers as they can obviously not socially distance themselves from their patients and there is more aerosol transfer in a hospital setting.
Sorry, but I can't agree with you. Masks are useful, if not essential. However, there are not enough to go around, so they tell you that you don't need one. After watching the panic buying of TP, you can imagine what would happen with masks. Watch the news coming out of China--everyone has a mask. In Milan, the director of the largest hospital there (which is overwhelmed with serious cases) was asked if masks are necessary. He paused, looked uncomfortable, and then said "I can't answer that question for you". It was so obvious. Lockdown will not be lifted in Italy until the general public has masks, and then we will be required to wear them. It will be interesting to watch the gymnastics of our leaders, who assured us that they aren't necessary. The general public isn't buying it. People out and about are all wearing masks--even if they have to make their own. Look at photos of the Spanish flu epidemic--people are wearing masks.
I read an article on medium.com (no clue about the site, it was via another platform and it made a lot of sense. This is the opening quote that I feel summarizes it decently (the article was far more detailed)
“The official recommendation in the United States (and other Western countries) that the public should not wear face masks was motivated by the need to save respirator masks for health care workers. There is no scientific support for the statement that masks worn by non-professionals are “not effective”. In contrary, in view of the stated goal to “flatten the curve”, any additional, however partial reduction of transmission would be welcome — even by surgical masks or home-made (DIY) masks, which would not exacerbate the supply problem. The latest biological findings on SARS-Cov-2 viral entry into human tissue and cough-droplet ballistics suggest that the major transmission mechanism are not fine aerosols but large droplets, and thus, warrant the wearing of surgical masks by everyone.”
Two weeks ago we had a team of Chinese experts arrive to help with COV19 expertise. They were asked to come by the Italian government. They toured all facilities and talked to all our coordinaters here. One of the main points they made was that people are out in public without masks.
As with test kits, there are not enough to go around. Not surprising that they want them to go to health care professionals that are at more risk. Lying, or are they trying to avoid panic in the general population?
The president has finally pushed the date to April 30th. This is a very serious issue and we all have to try our best to follow guidelines to keep ourselves, and our families well.8 -
In WV, with an active stay-at-home order. My husband took the boys fishing (outdoor activities are OK as long as it is your own household and 6’ from anyone else) and passed a local park and said at least a dozen people were out playing basketball *face palm* then he got to the mostly empty ramp and noticed a group in the distance out fishing and playing together, thought it was nice for a family to be out together... until they separated into 3 separate vehicles when they left... oi! THAT’s why the neighbor kids aren’t allowed over right now, because who knows!
I am not feeling great today, temp has been running low to mid 96, now upper 97. Trying not to overthink, but also be very mindful.20 -
I've been cutting my husband's hair for years, but he likes it super short, so it's easy. I was lucky and got my hair cut just before everything shut down.
We're starting to see cases in my county - 0 to 3 to 5 to 7 to 13 in the past week. The Governor shut us down a bit more than a week ago, so it should flatten out in a week or so, hopefully.
I see walkers and runners all the time lately, which is rather fun since I rarely see any other runners. I think I saw more runners today than I normally see in a month.1 -
I expect other cities are doing something similar (at least I hope they are) but major props to the city of Milwaukee, WI for making sure citizens are able to vote even with the pandemic. Kudos to them. https://jsonline.com/picture-gallery/news/2020/03/28/drive-up-voting-milwaukee-draws-steady-stream-cars/2933272001/3
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It's still been cold enough within New Jersey, that I've been wearing a scarf during the morning. I always wrap it around my face 1st via the middle, even prior to this virus occurring.6
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Got hair cutting equipment including the same plastic wrap the salons use.I been cutting ours for a long time only went to professionals as a blue moon treat. So not an issue men in my life buzz their hair off until their peach fuzz is soft. Mine I just cut it as I go .
We just got told our city will be in lockdown another month for sure. So will see what happens in a month. Been stuck inside 1 month 3days so far .5 -
Here cause folks won’t stop herding into the parks y playgrounds being buddy buddy the mayor just warned he going to close them too if folks don’t knock it off. How many of these folks are doing this then handing us bagged food to medical advice or which I suspect next to hubby as he buys groceries for us leaving him no room to breathe is unknown.
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Italy here. Just got up and watching the News--they're preparing us for the idea that Lockdown will last at least another 2 weeks. Then showed an ambulance transporting a COV19 patient in a plastic tent carrier. Both ETMs were totally covered with their hazemat suits. The one closest to the patient kept touching the plastic carrier to reassure. When the patient was out the ETM just collapsed--wearily. The other moved up to her asking "Are you all right?" I got tears in my eyes.25
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Update from the Emerald Isle.
We we went on more restricted lockdown midnight Friday PM/Saturday AM (not great for me as had to condense a 3 day plan for moving OH's stuff in, into 2 1/2 hours as it was only announced Friday evening around 8pm, and I didn't find out about it until 9pm.) for 2 weeks.- Non-essential retail and all leisure facilities are now closed
- Only those on a list of essential workers are permitted to go to work and must carry work ID or letter from employer.
- We're allowed to exercise within 2km of our home whilst maintaining social distancing.
- Limited numbers permitted into retail outlets, most outlets have plexiglass in place around the tills and paint/tape marking out 2m queuing.
- Restaurants still allowed to operate as takeaway/delivery services only.
- Schools closed until after Easter.
I have not been to the local supermarket since the lockdown started, reports from friends & flatmate differ, our closest supermarket seems to be ok, no panic-buying and relatively quiet. City Centre stores seem to be a bit crazier. I'm ordering most of my stuff through a local butcher who does meat from their own farms and has partnered with a vegetable farm and from neighbourhood food, which is a website that brings local food producers together, so you can place order for things like bread, cheese, ready meals, etc that you might normally get from a farmers market and pick it up from a venue. So I will only be going to the supermarket for the basics as and when I need them.
We're up to just over 2000 cases here I think, not much reporting done about recovered cases unfortunately and test kits are in short supply at the moment from what I gather. It's taking around 10 days for folk to get results.5 -
I cried this morning. For the first time I opened Facebook and found out a friend of mines dad died of covid-19 yesterday and another friends grandma. I went to write condolence cards and realized I don't have enough condolence cards for how many I will need to write.
Governor Hogan is having another press conference at 1045 today. I expect further restrictions41 -
I’m so sorry *hugs*I cried this morning. For the first time I opened Facebook and found out a friend of mines dad died of covid-19 yesterday and another friends grandma. I went to write condolence cards and realized I don't have enough condolence cards for how many I will need to write.
Governor Hogan is having another press conference at 1045 today. I expect further restrictions
Hubby and I were talking, and it was a grave realization at how much our reality can change, so unexpectedly. No one is guaranteed tomorrow, but this makes that realization so much more real... how quickly things have changed.
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amtyrell, find a piece of paper and send a nice hand-written note; that'll be appreciated just as much as (if not more than) a card, especially if you knew either relative and are able to relate a memory of them.12
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I expect other cities are doing something similar (at least I hope they are) but major props to the city of Milwaukee, WI for making sure citizens are able to vote even with the pandemic. Kudos to them. https://jsonline.com/picture-gallery/news/2020/03/28/drive-up-voting-milwaukee-draws-steady-stream-cars/2933272001/
Good thing! We extended mail-in voting (the time to request the ballot) but since it was in the middle of this being recognized as a big crisis (3/17 was our primary), it was still a huge mess. Lots of people (disproportionately older) said they just preferred to vote in person too, which I get (although would have re-thought given the situation) -- I normally don't early vote in a primary but did that time because I had a sense by the end of the prior week that it was going to be a mess. Early voting was easy and fast, at least. (We had a bunch of primaries that day besides the presidential so I don't appreciate those claiming it would have been NBD to postpone.)0 -
Thus far I've been the only 1 whom initiates social distancing, when encountering someone else upon a sidewalk.5
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Encouraging news from China, direct from someone in my husband’s company (they have a plant there): No new cases in the area, life is getting back to “normal,” and schools are starting back up!11
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I just looked at the numbers and am again so grateful we moved from Long Island to VA a few yrs ago. There are 25 covid-19 deaths in all of VA, there are 40 deaths just in the county we lived in in NY ☹️.
I get the impression the next couple of weeks are key in the US, like this is when we find out whether the current level of social distancing is getting the job done.
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Here is an interesting article regarding the conversation of what is considered "essential" here in the U.S.
http://thehustle.co/03302020-coronavirus-esential-businesses1 -
I don't believe that we've seen the worst of it yet, due to those refusing to socially distance themselves. Only once everything recreational's shuttered & all open shops implement distance rules, then after approximately 2 weeks'll reach peak.6
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DecadeDuchess wrote: »Thus far I've been the only 1 whom initiates social distancing, when encountering someone else upon a sidewalk.
It's been mostly mutual around here.5 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »I don't believe that we've seen the worst of it yet, due to those refusing to socially distance themselves. Only once everything recreational's shuttered & all open shops implement distance rules, then after approximately 2 weeks'll reach peak.
Of course we haven't seen the worst of it, regardless of social distancing, as we are on the upswing of the curve.10 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »I don't believe that we've seen the worst of it yet, due to those refusing to socially distance themselves. Only once everything recreational's shuttered & all open shops implement distance rules, then after approximately 2 weeks'll reach peak.
Of course we haven't seen the worst of it, regardless of social distancing, as we are on the upswing of the curve.
Yes, even if people started doing everything perfectly last week, we still would be in the upswing right now.12 -
moonangel12 wrote: »Encouraging news from China, direct from someone in my husband’s company (they have a plant there): No new cases in the area, life is getting back to “normal,” and schools are starting back up!
The toll in China was tremendous. They showed the boxes with funeral urns--millions, and the crematoriums are still going. The reported numbers are nowhere near correct. People returning to the hard hit provinces after 2 months cannot leave. They are still in lockdown. Things are slowly getting better, but it will be by degrees, and we will have to do the same.11 -
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I don't know what is more upsetting, the news about the morbidity and mortality of the infection or the stupidity of the 'disagrees' posted in this forum.12
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I don't know what is more upsetting, the news about the morbidity and mortality of the infection or the stupidity of the 'disagrees' posted in this forum.
I’ve been following this since the start of the post. For the most part, the the disagrees have been few. Like most topics posted here, those with nothing better to do, like the disagree button. They would disagree with the statement, “grass is green”, simply to stir others up.🤷🏻♀️
This has been a great post! Informational, interesting, therapeutic, and serving the needs of the MFP community. It helps to know worldwide, we are all in this together, forming a necessary bond, uniting us all for the common good.
Many thanks to all!❤️
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