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It's still been cold enough within New Jersey, that I've been wearing a scarf during the morning. I always wrap it around my face 1st via the middle, even prior to this virus occurring.6
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Got hair cutting equipment including the same plastic wrap the salons use.I been cutting ours for a long time only went to professionals as a blue moon treat. So not an issue men in my life buzz their hair off until their peach fuzz is soft. Mine I just cut it as I go .
We just got told our city will be in lockdown another month for sure. So will see what happens in a month. Been stuck inside 1 month 3days so far .5 -
Here cause folks won’t stop herding into the parks y playgrounds being buddy buddy the mayor just warned he going to close them too if folks don’t knock it off. How many of these folks are doing this then handing us bagged food to medical advice or which I suspect next to hubby as he buys groceries for us leaving him no room to breathe is unknown.
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Italy here. Just got up and watching the News--they're preparing us for the idea that Lockdown will last at least another 2 weeks. Then showed an ambulance transporting a COV19 patient in a plastic tent carrier. Both ETMs were totally covered with their hazemat suits. The one closest to the patient kept touching the plastic carrier to reassure. When the patient was out the ETM just collapsed--wearily. The other moved up to her asking "Are you all right?" I got tears in my eyes.25
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Update from the Emerald Isle.
We we went on more restricted lockdown midnight Friday PM/Saturday AM (not great for me as had to condense a 3 day plan for moving OH's stuff in, into 2 1/2 hours as it was only announced Friday evening around 8pm, and I didn't find out about it until 9pm.) for 2 weeks.- Non-essential retail and all leisure facilities are now closed
- Only those on a list of essential workers are permitted to go to work and must carry work ID or letter from employer.
- We're allowed to exercise within 2km of our home whilst maintaining social distancing.
- Limited numbers permitted into retail outlets, most outlets have plexiglass in place around the tills and paint/tape marking out 2m queuing.
- Restaurants still allowed to operate as takeaway/delivery services only.
- Schools closed until after Easter.
I have not been to the local supermarket since the lockdown started, reports from friends & flatmate differ, our closest supermarket seems to be ok, no panic-buying and relatively quiet. City Centre stores seem to be a bit crazier. I'm ordering most of my stuff through a local butcher who does meat from their own farms and has partnered with a vegetable farm and from neighbourhood food, which is a website that brings local food producers together, so you can place order for things like bread, cheese, ready meals, etc that you might normally get from a farmers market and pick it up from a venue. So I will only be going to the supermarket for the basics as and when I need them.
We're up to just over 2000 cases here I think, not much reporting done about recovered cases unfortunately and test kits are in short supply at the moment from what I gather. It's taking around 10 days for folk to get results.5 -
I cried this morning. For the first time I opened Facebook and found out a friend of mines dad died of covid-19 yesterday and another friends grandma. I went to write condolence cards and realized I don't have enough condolence cards for how many I will need to write.
Governor Hogan is having another press conference at 1045 today. I expect further restrictions41 -
I’m so sorry *hugs*I cried this morning. For the first time I opened Facebook and found out a friend of mines dad died of covid-19 yesterday and another friends grandma. I went to write condolence cards and realized I don't have enough condolence cards for how many I will need to write.
Governor Hogan is having another press conference at 1045 today. I expect further restrictions
Hubby and I were talking, and it was a grave realization at how much our reality can change, so unexpectedly. No one is guaranteed tomorrow, but this makes that realization so much more real... how quickly things have changed.
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amtyrell, find a piece of paper and send a nice hand-written note; that'll be appreciated just as much as (if not more than) a card, especially if you knew either relative and are able to relate a memory of them.12
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I expect other cities are doing something similar (at least I hope they are) but major props to the city of Milwaukee, WI for making sure citizens are able to vote even with the pandemic. Kudos to them. https://jsonline.com/picture-gallery/news/2020/03/28/drive-up-voting-milwaukee-draws-steady-stream-cars/2933272001/
Good thing! We extended mail-in voting (the time to request the ballot) but since it was in the middle of this being recognized as a big crisis (3/17 was our primary), it was still a huge mess. Lots of people (disproportionately older) said they just preferred to vote in person too, which I get (although would have re-thought given the situation) -- I normally don't early vote in a primary but did that time because I had a sense by the end of the prior week that it was going to be a mess. Early voting was easy and fast, at least. (We had a bunch of primaries that day besides the presidential so I don't appreciate those claiming it would have been NBD to postpone.)0 -
Thus far I've been the only 1 whom initiates social distancing, when encountering someone else upon a sidewalk.5
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Encouraging news from China, direct from someone in my husband’s company (they have a plant there): No new cases in the area, life is getting back to “normal,” and schools are starting back up!11
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I just looked at the numbers and am again so grateful we moved from Long Island to VA a few yrs ago. There are 25 covid-19 deaths in all of VA, there are 40 deaths just in the county we lived in in NY ☹️.
I get the impression the next couple of weeks are key in the US, like this is when we find out whether the current level of social distancing is getting the job done.
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Here is an interesting article regarding the conversation of what is considered "essential" here in the U.S.
http://thehustle.co/03302020-coronavirus-esential-businesses1 -
I don't believe that we've seen the worst of it yet, due to those refusing to socially distance themselves. Only once everything recreational's shuttered & all open shops implement distance rules, then after approximately 2 weeks'll reach peak.6
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DecadeDuchess wrote: »Thus far I've been the only 1 whom initiates social distancing, when encountering someone else upon a sidewalk.
It's been mostly mutual around here.5 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »I don't believe that we've seen the worst of it yet, due to those refusing to socially distance themselves. Only once everything recreational's shuttered & all open shops implement distance rules, then after approximately 2 weeks'll reach peak.
Of course we haven't seen the worst of it, regardless of social distancing, as we are on the upswing of the curve.10 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »I don't believe that we've seen the worst of it yet, due to those refusing to socially distance themselves. Only once everything recreational's shuttered & all open shops implement distance rules, then after approximately 2 weeks'll reach peak.
Of course we haven't seen the worst of it, regardless of social distancing, as we are on the upswing of the curve.
Yes, even if people started doing everything perfectly last week, we still would be in the upswing right now.12 -
moonangel12 wrote: »Encouraging news from China, direct from someone in my husband’s company (they have a plant there): No new cases in the area, life is getting back to “normal,” and schools are starting back up!
The toll in China was tremendous. They showed the boxes with funeral urns--millions, and the crematoriums are still going. The reported numbers are nowhere near correct. People returning to the hard hit provinces after 2 months cannot leave. They are still in lockdown. Things are slowly getting better, but it will be by degrees, and we will have to do the same.11 -
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I don't know what is more upsetting, the news about the morbidity and mortality of the infection or the stupidity of the 'disagrees' posted in this forum.12
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I don't know what is more upsetting, the news about the morbidity and mortality of the infection or the stupidity of the 'disagrees' posted in this forum.
I’ve been following this since the start of the post. For the most part, the the disagrees have been few. Like most topics posted here, those with nothing better to do, like the disagree button. They would disagree with the statement, “grass is green”, simply to stir others up.🤷🏻♀️
This has been a great post! Informational, interesting, therapeutic, and serving the needs of the MFP community. It helps to know worldwide, we are all in this together, forming a necessary bond, uniting us all for the common good.
Many thanks to all!❤️
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Do gloves and masks matter? I think they do but we all know there's not enough for the first responders and medical community. The grocery store clerks, mail and delivery drivers, all those preparing food for curbside takeout...they have families and children they go home to every single day.
We were only given 4 tests in our town and now we're down to 3 tests because they've used one and it was positive. Where did that person come into contact with it and how many people did they expose as emergency room staff. There's not a whole lotta transparency going on so I believe my small corner of the world has been lulled into a very false sense of security. We received a Grade F for social distancing. The grocery store is jam packed. I went for drive and saw all kinds of cars parked at homes and ranches. People are getting together and nothing much has changed. They keep saying our numbers are low but that's only because there's no testing to reveal the true picture. People think we're immune out here but they're just blowing smoke into their own eyes. We're behind the curve but it's imaginary thinking to believe that will last.
We are a clearinghouse for tourists from all over the world. When they blow in here our small facilities cannot handle it. I had a dream and I know that's just the brain trying to make sense of things but I saw college dorms being used for hospitals. The kids were upset because they left their belongings thinking they'd be going back. Then they had to pitch stuff they couldn't wash. I see gyms, schools and dorms, community centers and ice rinks being used as makeshift hospitals.
Many of the older folks are scared. They're asking their grandkids to go to the grocery store for them but those in the younger age groups are taking it all in stride. Oy vey.
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DecadeDuchess wrote: »I don't believe that we've seen the worst of it yet, due to those refusing to socially distance themselves. Only once everything recreational's shuttered & all open shops implement distance rules, then after approximately 2 weeks'll reach peak.
Of course we haven't seen the worst of it, regardless of social distancing, as we are on the upswing of the curve.
That's true, I mistakenly said yet. What I meant's that without those whom've been refusing to socially distance, we'd reach peak sooner.2 -
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Stoffle, the badger who won't be tamed
Feel like clawing at the walls? This honey badger can relate. (Click to view)10 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »
Dummy me left both my homemade mask and hat at home yesterday when I finally ventured out to the grocery store for the first time in two weeks - if it weren’t 20 minutes from home, and needing to get in and out ASAP because kids were home alone, I would have gone back for them. (The hat because my germaphobe mind imagines cooties crawling around in my hair much like lice I guess). I sat in the car and seriously pondered what to do... ended up just taking a deep breath and headed in, strategically holding my breath when I passed people. Probably a feeble attempt at protecting myself but better than nothing (thankfully it wasn’t a madhouse).snowflake954 wrote: »@snowflake954 Lol! The mask is going to be the fashion accessory to have in 2020 and beyond.
Can't you just see the fashion models walking the catwalk next year in masks? We'll all be wearing them.
That is precisely what I pictured....."I'm too sexy for this mask.....too sexy for this mask....so sexy it hurts"
- Right Said Fred
I'm in the middle of my second book about the 1918 flu epidemic, and both talk about people starting to wear masks anytime they went out, and the first had photos of some US city (I forget which) in which everyone is wearing masks.
My sister took her dh shopping the other day, they both wore masks(you're not seeing it much here....yet). Somebody yelled across the aisle at her, telling her she's not supposed to be using them, they're for other people.
She's 75 and her dh is 80, has Alzheimer's. Seriously??? And I've offered to stay with him or get food for them countless times. But until Friday, when her dd sent her a couple more masks for extra caregivers to wear, she wouldn't allow me in their home.
If you read the CDC website, they do not recommend wearing masks...they are of little to no value to the general public in coronavirus protection. This is not an airborne virus and masks only really serve as a false sense of security. They are necessary for medical workers as they can obviously not socially distance themselves from their patients and there is more aerosol transfer in a hospital setting.
I assume that when you say it is not an airborne virus you mean that it is not aerosolized and sinks to surfaces very quickly, but without that explanation, I think saying it is not airbone can be misleading, as people are liable to think that means it can't pass through the air, and that everything they've heard about the dangers of someone coughing or sneezing on them or just being within six feet of them is not true.
I also think that the folks in the store yelling at elderly people (clearly at high risk, and thus not the general population) for taking whatever added precaution they can, even if the protective value is small, were jerks. Sure they should stay home if they possibly can, but to assume anyone you see out in the world has a less valid reason than you do for being there is at least at self-centered as one elderly couple using two masks that are supposed to be "for other people." Why not suggest the elderly couple go back to the car and offer to do the shopping and bring it out to them?
I would think people would know the difference. I'm not remotely a health care professional and I know the difference.6 -
snowflake954 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »moonangel12 wrote: »
Dummy me left both my homemade mask and hat at home yesterday when I finally ventured out to the grocery store for the first time in two weeks - if it weren’t 20 minutes from home, and needing to get in and out ASAP because kids were home alone, I would have gone back for them. (The hat because my germaphobe mind imagines cooties crawling around in my hair much like lice I guess). I sat in the car and seriously pondered what to do... ended up just taking a deep breath and headed in, strategically holding my breath when I passed people. Probably a feeble attempt at protecting myself but better than nothing (thankfully it wasn’t a madhouse).snowflake954 wrote: »@snowflake954 Lol! The mask is going to be the fashion accessory to have in 2020 and beyond.
Can't you just see the fashion models walking the catwalk next year in masks? We'll all be wearing them.
That is precisely what I pictured....."I'm too sexy for this mask.....too sexy for this mask....so sexy it hurts"
- Right Said Fred
I'm in the middle of my second book about the 1918 flu epidemic, and both talk about people starting to wear masks anytime they went out, and the first had photos of some US city (I forget which) in which everyone is wearing masks.
My sister took her dh shopping the other day, they both wore masks(you're not seeing it much here....yet). Somebody yelled across the aisle at her, telling her she's not supposed to be using them, they're for other people. She's 75 and her dh is 80, has Alzheimer's. Seriously??? And I've offered to stay with him or get food for them countless times. But until Friday, when her dd sent her a couple more masks for extra caregivers to wear, she wouldn't allow me in their home.
If you read the CDC website, they do not recommend wearing masks...they are of little to no value to the general public in coronavirus protection. This is not an airborne virus and masks only really serve as a false sense of security. They are necessary for medical workers as they can obviously not socially distance themselves from their patients and there is more aerosol transfer in a hospital setting.
Sorry, but I can't agree with you. Masks are useful, if not essential. However, there are not enough to go around, so they tell you that you don't need one. After watching the panic buying of TP, you can imagine what would happen with masks. Watch the news coming out of China--everyone has a mask. In Milan, the director of the largest hospital there (which is overwhelmed with serious cases) was asked if masks are necessary. He paused, looked uncomfortable, and then said "I can't answer that question for you". It was so obvious. Lockdown will not be lifted in Italy until the general public has masks, and then we will be required to wear them. It will be interesting to watch the gymnastics of our leaders, who assured us that they aren't necessary. The general public isn't buying it. People out and about are all wearing masks--even if they have to make their own. Look at photos of the Spanish flu epidemic--people are wearing masks.
Then how come even our health care professionals are saying the only thing that is really going to protect them is N95 masks?1 -
Diatonic12 wrote: »Do gloves and masks matter? I think they do but we all know there's not enough for the first responders and medical community. The grocery store clerks, mail and delivery drivers, all those preparing food for curbside takeout...they have families and children they go home to every single day.
We were only given 4 tests in our town and now we're down to 3 tests because they've used one and it was positive. Where did that person come into contact with it and how many people did they expose as emergency room staff. There's not a whole lotta transparency going on so I believe my small corner of the world has been lulled into a very false sense of security. We received a Grade F for social distancing. The grocery store is jam packed. I went for drive and saw all kinds of cars parked at homes and ranches. People are getting together and nothing much has changed. They keep saying our numbers are low but that's only because there's no testing to reveal the true picture. People think we're immune out here but they're just blowing smoke into their own eyes. We're behind the curve but it's imaginary thinking to believe that will last.
We are a clearinghouse for tourists from all over the world. When they blow in here our small facilities cannot handle it. I had a dream and I know that's just the brain trying to make sense of things but I saw college dorms being used for hospitals. The kids were upset because they left their belongings thinking they'd be going back. Then they had to pitch stuff they couldn't wash. I see gyms, schools and dorms, community centers and ice rinks being used as makeshift hospitals.
Many of the older folks are scared. They're asking their grandkids to go to the grocery store for them but those in the younger age groups are taking it all in stride. Oy vey.
What worries me the most's the grandparents, that're raising their grandchildren. They're unable, to socially distance via them.2 -
I understand social distancing, not shopping anymore than you absolutely have to, washing your hands all the time, covering coughs, etc. But how many of you take it to the point of setting your groceries aside for 3 days, or wiping them all down when you get them home? I'm more than willing to do my share but isn't some of it taking this all to over the edge? Maybe I'm wrong?
So please tell me how far you're taking the cleaning and bleaching, etc.? Just curious about all of this and certainly do not want to stir up a battle but do wonder if I'm doing enough.
The way I figure it, I think I've won a battle of sorts on the home front, seeing dh spray water over his hands once a day. Absolutely no kidding. 
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WV had its first COVID-19 related death yesterday. We're up to 124 confirmed cases, 2 of which are in my county.
My sister is a grocery store cashier over on that end; I am concerned for her because she doesn't take care of herself very well, and if she gets it, she's going to bring it home to my parents and my dad especially isn't in good health 8 -
Diatonic12 wrote: »Do gloves and masks matter? I think they do but we all know there's not enough for the first responders and medical community. The grocery store clerks, mail and delivery drivers, all those preparing food for curbside takeout...they have families and children they go home to every single day.
We were only given 4 tests in our town and now we're down to 3 tests because they've used one and it was positive. Where did that person come into contact with it and how many people did they expose as emergency room staff. There's not a whole lotta transparency going on so I believe my small corner of the world has been lulled into a very false sense of security. We received a Grade F for social distancing. The grocery store is jam packed. I went for drive and saw all kinds of cars parked at homes and ranches. People are getting together and nothing much has changed. They keep saying our numbers are low but that's only because there's no testing to reveal the true picture. People think we're immune out here but they're just blowing smoke into their own eyes. We're behind the curve but it's imaginary thinking to believe that will last.
We are a clearinghouse for tourists from all over the world. When they blow in here our small facilities cannot handle it. I had a dream and I know that's just the brain trying to make sense of things but I saw college dorms being used for hospitals. The kids were upset because they left their belongings thinking they'd be going back. Then they had to pitch stuff they couldn't wash. I see gyms, schools and dorms, community centers and ice rinks being used as makeshift hospitals.
Many of the older folks are scared. They're asking their grandkids to go to the grocery store for them but those in the younger age groups are taking it all in stride. Oy vey.
And this is exactly why the virus will never be contained. The same is happening where I live. People going about their lives as though nothing is happening... with the exception of hoarding from stores so nobody else can buy anything. ☹ At least where I work is shut down for now and those of us still working are doing so from home. I am trying to limit how much I leave and have been down to once per week to shop. But none of the stores have what I need anyway, so I am just getting by with some improvisation. And that means I go out and potentially get exposed for no benefit.6
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