Coronavirus prep
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Lillymoo01 wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship right now:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/05/812456413/coronavirus-cruise-ship-in-limbo-off-california-after-former-passenger-died
I wish I would've known about the virus last year when I booked my cruise lol Oh well. As long as I wash my hands constantly and use hand sanitizer I should be alright. Norwegian Cruise Line has been keeping us pretty informed of all of the steps they're taking in response to the virus. They're not messing around lol
Not to fearmonger, but the air filtration systems are also part of the issue on cruise ships. Air goes from cabin to cabin, with outside air being mixed with inside air. The filters aren't fine enough to pick up the virus (unlike planes, which recirculate air, but have filters than can keep the virus out of the air).
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-02-25/how-coronavirus-raced-through-quarantined-cruise-ship
Definitely good to know! Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about that now lol I can't cancel my reservation and receive a refund because I'm sailing in 8 days, plus I don't meet their criteria for being eligible for a refund.
I'm just going to cough as loud as possible to try and keep people away from me as much as possible lol
Might not be a good plan if you end up stuck out at see quarantined because the officials think you have it. If you do it before you get on the ship they will send you home.
She will be right. If checked by the doctor there would be no temperature and you can simply say that something went down the wrong way! I have just returned from overseas and while in transit it was amazing how much extra room a cough from someone I was travelling with gave.
I'm still coughing from my pneumonia (over a month ago now), and given a wide berth in public. I feel I have to explain myself everywhere I go.6 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship right now:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/05/812456413/coronavirus-cruise-ship-in-limbo-off-california-after-former-passenger-died
I wish I would've known about the virus last year when I booked my cruise lol Oh well. As long as I wash my hands constantly and use hand sanitizer I should be alright. Norwegian Cruise Line has been keeping us pretty informed of all of the steps they're taking in response to the virus. They're not messing around lol
Not to fearmonger, but the air filtration systems are also part of the issue on cruise ships. Air goes from cabin to cabin, with outside air being mixed with inside air. The filters aren't fine enough to pick up the virus (unlike planes, which recirculate air, but have filters than can keep the virus out of the air).
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-02-25/how-coronavirus-raced-through-quarantined-cruise-ship
Definitely good to know! Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about that now lol I can't cancel my reservation and receive a refund because I'm sailing in 8 days, plus I don't meet their criteria for being eligible for a refund.
I'm just going to cough as loud as possible to try and keep people away from me as much as possible lol
Might not be a good plan if you end up stuck out at see quarantined because the officials think you have it. If you do it before you get on the ship they will send you home.
She will be right. If checked by the doctor there would be no temperature and you can simply say that something went down the wrong way! I have just returned from overseas and while in transit it was amazing how much extra room a cough from someone I was travelling with gave.
I'm still coughing from my pneumonia (over a month ago now), and given a wide berth in public. I feel I have to explain myself everywhere I go.
People do not avoid me nearly enough. They jibber jabber at me nonstop. I need to stop showering.14 -
kshama2001 wrote: »You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship right now:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/05/812456413/coronavirus-cruise-ship-in-limbo-off-california-after-former-passenger-died
You can pay me... I cannot wait for the prices to go down... more cruises!! :drinker:1 -
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship right now:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/05/812456413/coronavirus-cruise-ship-in-limbo-off-california-after-former-passenger-died
You can pay me... I cannot wait for the prices to go down... more cruises!! :drinker:
Same! I figure I’m probably going to get a virus anyway-Norovirus, coronavirus. Bring on the cheap cruises, please!
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stocking up on supplies tomorrow. Already bought several 24 packs of water last weekend. Yes toilet paper is a necessity. No one likes the phone book or mail catalogs for butt wipe... Then plan on staying indoors away from the masses. Netflix / Amazon / Hulu and On Demand my friends0
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Alrighty then. Today, a photographer down the road loaded up all of his belongings into a Uhaul, towing his vehicle behind, pulled up stakes and said he had to get back to Seattle, WA. He's going to drive straight through so he can look after his folks. He's taking them out of a care center and bringing them home. He was frantic and in a panic. We wished him a nice life. Ayup. People are concerned that it is far more than the normal flu for the older folkaronies. It took him 6 hours to throw all of his stuff together and away he went. With tears in his eyes he said, 'So long, now'.16
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rheddmobile wrote: »Welp it’s in my state now. I’m in Memphis and the person who has it is from Williamson county but went through the airport in Nashville with it.
I am in a neighboring state so keep that bidness to yourself!
I am fairly certain it is here too. It is just a matter of time before it is confirmed.
Yeah, we have 5 confirmed cases here, but I'm sure there are more. The first was recently returned from a trip to Wuhan, the second was that person's spouse, and the fifth had recently been in Italy. They don't know how the other couple were exposed. The first 4 are recovered or seem to be doing fine (the second couple are apparently mild). The fifth one is in the hospital and since he was on a plane they are checking those who were seated around him.1 -
rheddmobile wrote: »I AM PANICKED NOW!
I just pulled the last can of artichoke hearts from my cupboard. How did I let this get so low?
I will trade TP or ammo for artichoke hearts. Who wants to barter?
Hopefully the hoarders left some at the store.
Is there anyone (other than you apparently ) hoarding artichoke hearts?
Nah... forget I asked that.
I have six steam bags of artichoke hearts in the freezer, does that count?
I have 6 artichoke plants growing. I am preparing for the artichoke apocalypse
I will pay big money to come to your house! MMmm artichokes!!! I can't even buy them fresh right now here in Australia.. sucks. Well not in my supermarkets at least...sad.1 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »I just realized I only have one roll of TP left... I might be doomed to a life of crime now.
Husband said you wipe with only one or two pieces then into the shower. If you get desperate I'll send you a couple.1 -
I bet bidets are expensive right about now in Seattle.
Water, we have lots.4 -
We have one confirmed case in our county (only one in the state so far), and tp, cleaning supplies, water, pasta, and rice are flying off the shelves. The infected person apparently wasn’t contagious in the airport, but was when he went out to eat and who knows what else around town once home. I’m sure there will be more cases popping up soon. I guess he had no idea until he saw the news from where he’d been traveling and put two and two together.
Does anyone know if this is thought to be seasonal like the flu, and also, whether or not you can get it more than once? I’m not even sure scientists know yet?0 -
I had a friend reach out from Seattle area today wondering if we have hand sanitizer/wipes/lysol on our shelves and if so could I send some to her. I hit my store and was able to find a few cans of lysol hidden behind other cleaners but no wipes or hand sanitizer. I am wondering if I can even ship areosols....guess I will find out tomorrow.0
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Not to do with preparation so much as what it feels like to have the Covid 19 virus.
Today on NPR they interviewed a man that got it from the last cruise ship nightmare. He has been in quaratine in Omaha I think for like 19 days. He still has not had 3 days of clean throat/nostril swabs - showing zero virus - which is required to leave quarantine. He explained that for him, his symptoms were nothing like the typical influenza. No sniffles, nose blowing, body aches. It was more the onset of the fever and then a dry cough. Felt not great for a few days but then felt fine. They let him have an exercise bike so he could keep moving. It sounds like it just hangs around even after you feel ok. Maybe thats why they recommend 14 days. I guess if you don't get tested, you really won't know what you have. I remember my one bout with flu and it felt like I had lost a boxing match - my body ached for a week. It hurt to lay in bed.2 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship right now:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/05/812456413/coronavirus-cruise-ship-in-limbo-off-california-after-former-passenger-died
I wish I would've known about the virus last year when I booked my cruise lol Oh well. As long as I wash my hands constantly and use hand sanitizer I should be alright. Norwegian Cruise Line has been keeping us pretty informed of all of the steps they're taking in response to the virus. They're not messing around lol
Not to fearmonger, but the air filtration systems are also part of the issue on cruise ships. Air goes from cabin to cabin, with outside air being mixed with inside air. The filters aren't fine enough to pick up the virus (unlike planes, which recirculate air, but have filters than can keep the virus out of the air).
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-02-25/how-coronavirus-raced-through-quarantined-cruise-ship
Definitely good to know! Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about that now lol I can't cancel my reservation and receive a refund because I'm sailing in 8 days, plus I don't meet their criteria for being eligible for a refund.
I'm just going to cough as loud as possible to try and keep people away from me as much as possible lol
Might not be a good plan if you end up stuck out at see quarantined because the officials think you have it. If you do it before you get on the ship they will send you home.
She will be right. If checked by the doctor there would be no temperature and you can simply say that something went down the wrong way! I have just returned from overseas and while in transit it was amazing how much extra room a cough from someone I was travelling with gave.
I'm still coughing from my pneumonia (over a month ago now), and given a wide berth in public. I feel I have to explain myself everywhere I go.
People do not avoid me nearly enough. They jibber jabber at me nonstop. I need to stop showering.
Consider facial tattoos. If necessary, thematically scary ones.
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Not to do with preparation so much as what it feels like to have the Covid 19 virus.
Today on NPR they interviewed a man that got it from the last cruise ship nightmare. He has been in quaratine in Omaha I think for like 19 days. He still has not had 3 days of clean throat/nostril swabs - showing zero virus - which is required to leave quarantine. He explained that for him, his symptoms were nothing like the typical influenza. No sniffles, nose blowing, body aches. It was more the onset of the fever and then a dry cough. Felt not great for a few days but then felt fine. They let him have an exercise bike so he could keep moving. It sounds like it just hangs around even after you feel ok. Maybe thats why they recommend 14 days. I guess if you don't get tested, you really won't know what you have. I remember my one bout with flu and it felt like I had lost a boxing match - my body ached for a week. It hurt to lay in bed.
That sounds like the round of flu that hit my church and community back in January. It held on a lot longer than the typical flu, and even once the fever left, the dry cough lingered. some folks are still coughing and its been almost a month now since they had it. Come to think of it, they did have respiratory problems and some folks ended up in the hospital with pneumonia from it - the older folks with weakened lungs. At one point, over half our church was out - the pastor actually canceled a service because of it.
Makes me kind of wonder now......3 -
bearly63 wrote:Not to do with preparation so much as what it feels like to have the Covid 19 virus.
Today on NPR they interviewed a man that got it from the last cruise ship nightmare. He has been in quaratine in Omaha I think for like 19 days. He still has not had 3 days of clean throat/nostril swabs - showing zero virus - which is required to leave quarantine. He explained that for him, his symptoms were nothing like the typical influenza. No sniffles, nose blowing, body aches. It was more the onset of the fever and then a dry cough. Felt not great for a few days but then felt fine. They let him have an exercise bike so he could keep moving. It sounds like it just hangs around even after you feel ok. Maybe thats why they recommend 14 days. I guess if you don't get tested, you really won't know what you have. I remember my one bout with flu and it felt like I had lost a boxing match - my body ached for a week. It hurt to lay in bed.[
I wish I could get my mother and sister to understand this - they think if they have a fairly bad head cold, then they must have had the flu, even though they are only a little tired and achy and only slightly feverish and still able to get up and be about and do things. I've told my mother time and again that what she's got is not the flu - if she can get up and go to work (she's a janitor) and still do chores around the house, then it's only a cold; if she had the real flu, it would knock her on her behind for a week.7 -
My wife was hosting an event at a local hotel. She took some of our hand sanitizer from the house. She was told it was safe to leave their things in the conference room. The computers, projection equipment, etc were all safe. Someone stole the hand sanitizer.
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Ok. I know there is a chance that it was an honest mistake but that would not make a funny story for this thread.10 -
I had a friend reach out from Seattle area today wondering if we have hand sanitizer/wipes/lysol on our shelves and if so could I send some to her. I hit my store and was able to find a few cans of lysol hidden behind other cleaners but no wipes or hand sanitizer. I am wondering if I can even ship areosols....guess I will find out tomorrow.
You cannot ship air but can ship via a ground service.2 -
bmeadows380 wrote: »bearly63 wrote:Not to do with preparation so much as what it feels like to have the Covid 19 virus.
Today on NPR they interviewed a man that got it from the last cruise ship nightmare. He has been in quaratine in Omaha I think for like 19 days. He still has not had 3 days of clean throat/nostril swabs - showing zero virus - which is required to leave quarantine. He explained that for him, his symptoms were nothing like the typical influenza. No sniffles, nose blowing, body aches. It was more the onset of the fever and then a dry cough. Felt not great for a few days but then felt fine. They let him have an exercise bike so he could keep moving. It sounds like it just hangs around even after you feel ok. Maybe thats why they recommend 14 days. I guess if you don't get tested, you really won't know what you have. I remember my one bout with flu and it felt like I had lost a boxing match - my body ached for a week. It hurt to lay in bed.[
I wish I could get my mother and sister to understand this - they think if they have a fairly bad head cold, then they must have had the flu, even though they are only a little tired and achy and only slightly feverish and still able to get up and be about and do things. I've told my mother time and again that what she's got is not the flu - if she can get up and go to work (she's a janitor) and still do chores around the house, then it's only a cold; if she had the real flu, it would knock her on her behind for a week.
I will say that it can be very mild if you've had the flu shot. There have been a few years that my family has had the shot and the kids still got the flu. One didn't even have a temp above 99.4, and they all could play, watch TV, go about their business. But since they tested positive for the flu, they couldn't go to school for a week (the school was adamant their temps had to be 99.0 or lower--one of mine lives around that temp!). So I'd say it can be variable depending on the situation.5 -
It turns out not to matter what I would mix alcohol with to make hand sanitizer as the entire city is sold out of alcohol now thanks to the Internet explaining how to use it to make hand sanitizer. There are also no cleaning products, wipes, or anything like that.
I suppose I could look into buying Everclear but since I still have a decent supply of dish soap I am just going to wash my hands a lot. I also read that this particular virus is very susceptible to soap, since detergents cause the outer layer of the virus to burst and kill it. So in a pinch I guess you could make soapy water in an old squirt bottle and use it like hand sanitizer.6 -
cmriverside wrote: »I'm taking my cat to the vet...do I sound crazy to the vet if I ask him to wash his hands before touching my Precious?
The vet should be washing hands between patients all the time, just like human medical professional should do. So, no, absolutely not crazy.9 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship right now:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/05/812456413/coronavirus-cruise-ship-in-limbo-off-california-after-former-passenger-died
I wish I would've known about the virus last year when I booked my cruise lol Oh well. As long as I wash my hands constantly and use hand sanitizer I should be alright. Norwegian Cruise Line has been keeping us pretty informed of all of the steps they're taking in response to the virus. They're not messing around lol
Not to fearmonger, but the air filtration systems are also part of the issue on cruise ships. Air goes from cabin to cabin, with outside air being mixed with inside air. The filters aren't fine enough to pick up the virus (unlike planes, which recirculate air, but have filters than can keep the virus out of the air).
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-02-25/how-coronavirus-raced-through-quarantined-cruise-ship
Definitely good to know! Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about that now lol I can't cancel my reservation and receive a refund because I'm sailing in 8 days, plus I don't meet their criteria for being eligible for a refund.
I'm just going to cough as loud as possible to try and keep people away from me as much as possible lol
Might not be a good plan if you end up stuck out at see quarantined because the officials think you have it. If you do it before you get on the ship they will send you home.
She will be right. If checked by the doctor there would be no temperature and you can simply say that something went down the wrong way! I have just returned from overseas and while in transit it was amazing how much extra room a cough from someone I was travelling with gave.
I'm still coughing from my pneumonia (over a month ago now), and given a wide berth in public. I feel I have to explain myself everywhere I go.
People do not avoid me nearly enough. They jibber jabber at me nonstop. I need to stop showering.
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#toiletpapergate is a thing now (I guess...I don't do the Twitter)
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/coronavirus-prompted-toilet-paper-gate-170200261.html0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Bballnguitarz wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »You couldn't pay me to get on a cruise ship right now:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/05/812456413/coronavirus-cruise-ship-in-limbo-off-california-after-former-passenger-died
I wish I would've known about the virus last year when I booked my cruise lol Oh well. As long as I wash my hands constantly and use hand sanitizer I should be alright. Norwegian Cruise Line has been keeping us pretty informed of all of the steps they're taking in response to the virus. They're not messing around lol
Not to fearmonger, but the air filtration systems are also part of the issue on cruise ships. Air goes from cabin to cabin, with outside air being mixed with inside air. The filters aren't fine enough to pick up the virus (unlike planes, which recirculate air, but have filters than can keep the virus out of the air).
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-02-25/how-coronavirus-raced-through-quarantined-cruise-ship
Definitely good to know! Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about that now lol I can't cancel my reservation and receive a refund because I'm sailing in 8 days, plus I don't meet their criteria for being eligible for a refund.
I'm just going to cough as loud as possible to try and keep people away from me as much as possible lol
Might not be a good plan if you end up stuck out at see quarantined because the officials think you have it. If you do it before you get on the ship they will send you home.
She will be right. If checked by the doctor there would be no temperature and you can simply say that something went down the wrong way! I have just returned from overseas and while in transit it was amazing how much extra room a cough from someone I was travelling with gave.
I'm still coughing from my pneumonia (over a month ago now), and given a wide berth in public. I feel I have to explain myself everywhere I go.
People do not avoid me nearly enough. They jibber jabber at me nonstop. I need to stop showering.
I usually hug him, but I just found his goal of being rid of inane chatter through poor hygiene so inspiring. :laugh:5 -
our family prepped. i am severely immunosupressed with stage four lymphoma. i'm on weekly immunoglobulin therapy so i don't succumb to more pneumonia, respiratory, ear infections ad nauseum.
i'm sure if i got sick my family would have to quarantine big time because of their more public lifestyles.
so our reason for going full on - but - each to their own32 -
cmriverside wrote: »..and then the obvious: Don't smoke. Drink alcohol moderately.
Great point. One of the reasons they’re estimating the initial mortally rate in China skewed male is because decades of chronic smoking is a more male trait there. Chronic smoking can make you more susceptible to respiratory illness. I hadn’t thought about it that way. They also guess those stats may make the mortality rate higher and it will shift lower as more are officially diagnosed. Only time will tell.
Also interested if there is any data about people who vape, especially in the US. No idea if that data will be thought of to collect.
ETA: fix typos. I should know better than to type on my phone.3 -
I'm willing to hop on board the "This is how the zombie apocalypse starts" conspiracy train, but I'm kicking myself for slacking on my workouts the last few months now.
I have always known that I will be one of the first to succumb to zombies. I fully intend to do so sitting on my couch with a cat on my lap and cookie in my hand.
As long as the zombies can't run I have a chance. It would not make for a good tv or movie me staying 10 steps ahead of a zombie while we walk everywhere.
I love that show (TWD). I did the Zombie run at Comic Con in 2013. Scared the crap out of me! A little too realistic. Not doing that again. I’ll stick to TV. And barricading myself in my apartment if needed.
Though it is “fight the dead, fear the living.”0 -
I don’t understand why people are stockpiling water. It’s not like the municipal water supply is suddenly going ro get turned off or infected with virus. I’m in CA and always have extra shelf-stable food on hand because of earthquake preparedness. Not to mention wildfire threats and PG&E power shutdowns. We picked up a few extra things yesterday so if we get any flu-like symptoms we can self-quarantine at home without having to go out and spread our germs around, whether they’re run of the mill flu or coronavirus. But y’all gotta quit watching the news, taking a few precautions is prudent but there is no reason to strip the store shelves.
After water flew off the shelves here (SoCal), our local water utility issued a statement about how there’s no need to stockpile water because 1) they will not shut off our water and 2) the virus is not being transmitted through the water supply. They explained thoroughly and non-jargony way that was well done.
Honestly, I think what happened here is that folks initially published earthquake prep lists, which always include water because a utility shut off is very possible in an earthquake. Most of the disaster prep supply stuff is pretty consistent.
When my colleagues were talking about stockpiling water, I asked “are you buying candles and batteries? Matches? Camp stove? Charcoal?” They looked at me and said “no.” I asked, “why do you think the water will go off and not the electricity?”
The triangle of disaster prep, emergency response, and business continuity is a huge part of my job. I have a massive disaster been in my unit at work that we have to consistently audit to remove and replace expired supplies. Even packaged water has an expiration date. Glow stick anyone? 😃4 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »I'll just be over here in the corner, wiping my butt with leaves.
My co-workers who grew up in Korea and Ukraine used newspaper as toilet paper.0
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