Coronavirus prep
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Happy Friday all! Went to the local Walgreens a couple weeks ago to get my flu shot. The poor pharmacist on duty was busier than a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest! I had to wait an hour before she could get to me and give my shot. That said, that was the least painful vaccination I've had in my life! Major kudos who people who've managed to pull that trick off! I was feeling back to my normal self within a couple of hours, which is odd, because I'm used to feeling low energy for a day or two afterward.4
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So not sure if they will be opening up bars again in my county. It's a local decision but seems like if one county does and another doesn't it's sort of a waste. Because people will just drive a few miles to a wet county.
One thing about this whole crisis which I find interesting is that I hear of a lot more restrictions going into place in Europe again. And I hear folks saying = gotta go get my last meals out or visiting or whatever done BEFORE we lock down. In my mind it's seems like if your location is getting ready to lock down the LAST thing you would want to do is go be social? But maybe I just look at it from the standpoint of the REASON they are going to lock things down again is because the virus is spiking and hospitals are having a tough time so why would I risk being exposed? It must be human nature tho to think "it can't happen to me or my family".11 -
I have to say I have gone to CVS every year for my flu shot recently and despite it being a different pharmacist every year have never had a bad experience. Just got mine this morning. They do always focus on getting you to relax your arm.
Just low key bullied my mom into making appointments now for her & my dad to get flu shots. They keep meaning to but putting it off. They are in their 70s and see my nephews (who are going to school) all the time like it's not a pandemic or anything grrrr. So if they aren't going to protect themselves from getting covid from them, at least do something to try to prevent the flu for pete's sake16 -
I just found out a good friends daughter has covid. Her daughter is in the group that thinks it’s “no big deal”. Her daughter is a server and goes to bars regularly since the lifting of restrictions in her leisure time. What a difficult job trying to contact trace something like this, where she comes in contact with so many strangers daily. She’s isolating at home at the moment.
@kimny72 keep working on your parents. While you are at it, encourage shingles and pneumonia shots, if they haven’t had them. You’re a good daughter. ❤️
It’s a long winter, just beginning. We had our first snow flurries this morning.
Stay safe everyone! Please follow the guidelines.10 -
I have to say I have gone to CVS every year for my flu shot recently and despite it being a different pharmacist every year have never had a bad experience. Just got mine this morning. They do always focus on getting you to relax your arm.
Just low key bullied my mom into making appointments now for her & my dad to get flu shots. They keep meaning to but putting it off. They are in their 70s and see my nephews (who are going to school) all the time like it's not a pandemic or anything grrrr. So if they aren't going to protect themselves from getting covid from them, at least do something to try to prevent the flu for pete's sake
I've been harping on my 82 yo mom about food safety issues lately. The things she thinks don't need to be refrigerated, smh...
She got annoyed with me (about something else, but I think she thinks I'm questioning her competence in general.)
I subsequently had a serious talk with her about how my OH's mother's death in 2017 made me acutely aware of her mortality and that I was feeling protective of her, and apologized if I was coming across as annoying. This was well received17 -
Someone on another thread who celebrated Canadian Thanksgiving recently mentioned he was unable to find a turkey as small as he wanted and this reminded me that I had heard a news story this AM predicting smaller turkeys could be in short supply this year - thought I'd pass this along.
Retailers needed to tell the turkey farmers in March or April that they wanted a higher proportion of smaller turkeys and this didn't happen.
At 6-8 pounds, "Oven Stuffer Roaster" type whole chickens might be a good alternative.
I love turkey and like to plan for lots of leftovers. My "Joy of Cooking" has many recipes that call for cooked chicken or turkey. If I have no choice but an overly large turkey I might plan to make soup and other recipes that freeze well. And/or I could buy it early and celebrate early.7 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Someone on another thread who celebrated Canadian Thanksgiving recently mentioned he was unable to find a turkey as small as he wanted and this reminded me that I had heard a news story this AM predicting smaller turkeys could be in short supply this year - thought I'd pass this along.
Retailers needed to tell the turkey farmers in March or April that they wanted a higher proportion of smaller turkeys and this didn't happen.
At 6-8 pounds, "Oven Stuffer Roaster" type whole chickens might be a good alternative.
I love turkey and like to plan for lots of leftovers. My "Joy of Cooking" has many recipes that call for cooked chicken or turkey. If I have no choice but an overly large turkey I might plan to make soup and other recipes that freeze well. And/or I could buy it early and celebrate early.
I live alone, but not looking for a small turkey. I'll cook a full sized bird and have leftovers for a day or 2.4 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Someone on another thread who celebrated Canadian Thanksgiving recently mentioned he was unable to find a turkey as small as he wanted and this reminded me that I had heard a news story this AM predicting smaller turkeys could be in short supply this year - thought I'd pass this along.
Retailers needed to tell the turkey farmers in March or April that they wanted a higher proportion of smaller turkeys and this didn't happen.
At 6-8 pounds, "Oven Stuffer Roaster" type whole chickens might be a good alternative.
I love turkey and like to plan for lots of leftovers. My "Joy of Cooking" has many recipes that call for cooked chicken or turkey. If I have no choice but an overly large turkey I might plan to make soup and other recipes that freeze well. And/or I could buy it early and celebrate early.
It’s just me, my husband, and my mom this year, and everyone but me hates turkey, so we agreed we are doing a stuffed leg of lamb instead, and I am buying some smoked turkey breast from honey baked for myself.
I have a minor problem. My mom has a good friend who isn’t traveling to her family for Christmas and wants to have Christmas breakfast with us. I love her dearly and know she would walk through fire for my mom, but she has way more outside contact than we do - travels out of state, attends church, works in healthcare, is a very outgoing person - and I’m not even slightly cool with having her in my house for hours including eating a meal with no mask on. I sort of hinted at this and my mom pretended not to hear me, so I am not going to be able to say anything in a subtle fashion, and I have no idea how to handle it.15 -
rheddmobile wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Someone on another thread who celebrated Canadian Thanksgiving recently mentioned he was unable to find a turkey as small as he wanted and this reminded me that I had heard a news story this AM predicting smaller turkeys could be in short supply this year - thought I'd pass this along.
Retailers needed to tell the turkey farmers in March or April that they wanted a higher proportion of smaller turkeys and this didn't happen.
At 6-8 pounds, "Oven Stuffer Roaster" type whole chickens might be a good alternative.
I love turkey and like to plan for lots of leftovers. My "Joy of Cooking" has many recipes that call for cooked chicken or turkey. If I have no choice but an overly large turkey I might plan to make soup and other recipes that freeze well. And/or I could buy it early and celebrate early.
It’s just me, my husband, and my mom this year, and everyone but me hates turkey, so we agreed we are doing a stuffed leg of lamb instead, and I am buying some smoked turkey breast from honey baked for myself.
I have a minor problem. My mom has a good friend who isn’t traveling to her family for Christmas and wants to have Christmas breakfast with us. I love her dearly and know she would walk through fire for my mom, but she has way more outside contact than we do - travels out of state, attends church, works in healthcare, is a very outgoing person - and I’m not even slightly cool with having her in my house for hours including eating a meal with no mask on. I sort of hinted at this and my mom pretended not to hear me, so I am not going to be able to say anything in a subtle fashion, and I have no idea how to handle it.
Would you feel comfortable asking her to kind of quarantine for two weeks before Christmas, except I guess her work, to protect your mom? I sympathize, this is the kind of thing I'm going thru with my family.4 -
rheddmobile wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Someone on another thread who celebrated Canadian Thanksgiving recently mentioned he was unable to find a turkey as small as he wanted and this reminded me that I had heard a news story this AM predicting smaller turkeys could be in short supply this year - thought I'd pass this along.
Retailers needed to tell the turkey farmers in March or April that they wanted a higher proportion of smaller turkeys and this didn't happen.
At 6-8 pounds, "Oven Stuffer Roaster" type whole chickens might be a good alternative.
I love turkey and like to plan for lots of leftovers. My "Joy of Cooking" has many recipes that call for cooked chicken or turkey. If I have no choice but an overly large turkey I might plan to make soup and other recipes that freeze well. And/or I could buy it early and celebrate early.
It’s just me, my husband, and my mom this year, and everyone but me hates turkey, so we agreed we are doing a stuffed leg of lamb instead, and I am buying some smoked turkey breast from honey baked for myself.
I have a minor problem. My mom has a good friend who isn’t traveling to her family for Christmas and wants to have Christmas breakfast with us. I love her dearly and know she would walk through fire for my mom, but she has way more outside contact than we do - travels out of state, attends church, works in healthcare, is a very outgoing person - and I’m not even slightly cool with having her in my house for hours including eating a meal with no mask on. I sort of hinted at this and my mom pretended not to hear me, so I am not going to be able to say anything in a subtle fashion, and I have no idea how to handle it.
Do appeals to authority work on your mom (or her friend)?
Doctor Fauci's recent statements are an ice water bath to Thanksgiving gatherings, for cautious people:“People should be very careful and prudent about social gatherings,” he added. “You may have to bite the bullet, and sacrifice social gatherings unless you’re pretty certain that the people you’re dealing with are not infected, or have very recently tested, or they’re living a lifestyle in which they don’t have any interaction with anybody except you and your family.”
It's all over the media, but here's one source:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dr-fauci-urges-americans-to-make-sacrifices-thanksgiving-is-going-to-look-very-different-this-year-2020-10-158 -
Since most of us are waiting for an efficient and safe vaccine, I thought that this well written and straight forward letter would be of help to many of you. I hope that you can open the very long link, if not you can google the information.
BREAKING NEWS: The Wall Street Journal reports that Pfizer could apply for emergency use of a COVID-19 vaccine by late November. Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla published an open letter to speak directly to the public about the company's plans.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/an_open_letter_from_pfizer_chairman_and_ceo_albert_bourla?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiT1RneVpESXhNVFk1WkRSaiIsInQiOiJjVTlOT3BkWUhKcld1ZUlPNlJGaXV0bkZqbmhoMnZxY0hicSs5dnpBTzVKQnFRTUVMRXNGZFwvaVlQK1E0ck1mTXFycHJFbmpPZUw0XC9mWXBcL2s2Vk45TVljb2NSV0xvVHVPaFcxWVFkT2U5OHhrNHNpNUowZkZER3pjMkxQSWJPQSJ91 -
I have to say I have gone to CVS every year for my flu shot recently and despite it being a different pharmacist every year have never had a bad experience. Just got mine this morning. They do always focus on getting you to relax your arm.
Just low key bullied my mom into making appointments now for her & my dad to get flu shots. They keep meaning to but putting it off. They are in their 70s and see my nephews (who are going to school) all the time like it's not a pandemic or anything grrrr. So if they aren't going to protect themselves from getting covid from them, at least do something to try to prevent the flu for pete's sake
I respectfully ask this question. Why is that some seniors are reluctant to get the flu vaccine, keep distance, avoid seeing friends and family under the present COVID situation, wear masks, and expect that the normal holiday celebrations should take place like nothing is happening in the country or the world? I really don't get it. I am not talking only about your parents @kimny72, so please don't take it personally or get offended. It is something that read in this threat and others several times in the last few months.
My husband just turned 81 and I will be 77 in a couple of months, so we are both supper seniors. I don't expect or need my children to coach me to follow CDC guidelines or to take the flu shot. We already know what's a stake and I actually remind my children to take the flu shot every year. I don't want friends in my house or family for the holidays, and I was very clear with everybody about that decision. My husband agrees and supports my decision. It will not be the same but at least we will not be trying to catch our breath or in need to call the paramedics. Hopefully!!!!
We miss our children and grandchildren because we haven't seen them in person in several months but we don't want to get sick or died (possible at our age), and we don't want to make them sick either, should we get infected. They don't live near us, so they are not part of our bubble and neither are our friends and neighbors even if they live near by.
What and why is so hard to understand and how can we fix it? I really, really don't understand the thinking of some seniors, and younger people too. Ignoring the facts and the risks will not make us better or safer.
That is only my opinion and rant is over.18 -
I have to say I have gone to CVS every year for my flu shot recently and despite it being a different pharmacist every year have never had a bad experience. Just got mine this morning. They do always focus on getting you to relax your arm.
Just low key bullied my mom into making appointments now for her & my dad to get flu shots. They keep meaning to but putting it off. They are in their 70s and see my nephews (who are going to school) all the time like it's not a pandemic or anything grrrr. So if they aren't going to protect themselves from getting covid from them, at least do something to try to prevent the flu for pete's sake
I respectfully ask this question. Why is that some seniors are reluctant to get the flu vaccine, keep distance, avoid seeing friends and family under the present COVID situation, wear masks, and expect that the normal holiday celebrations should take place like nothing is happening in the country or the world? I really don't get it. I am not talking only about your parents @kimny72, so please don't take it personally or get offended. It is something that read in this threat and others several times in the last few months.
My husband just turned 81 and I will be 77 in a couple of months, so we are both supper seniors. I don't expect or need my children to coach me to follow CDC guidelines or to take the flu shot. We already know what's a stake and I actually remind my children to take the flu shot every year. I don't want friends in my house or family for the holidays, and I was very clear with everybody about that decision. My husband agrees and supports my decision. It will not be the same but at least we will not be trying to catch our breath or in need to call the paramedics. Hopefully!!!!
We miss our children and grandchildren because we haven't seen them in person in several months but we don't want to get sick or died (possible at our age), and we don't want to make them sick either, should we get infected. They don't live near us, so they are not part of our bubble and neither are our friends and neighbors even if they live near by.
What and why is so hard to understand and how can we fix it? I really, really don't understand the thinking of some seniors, and younger people too. Ignoring the facts and the risks will not make us better or safer.
That is only my opinion and rant is over.
I'll have to dance around this a little, but my dad subscribes to the politics that have been saying this is either a hoax or at least overblown. He's told me he doesn't know how much time he has left (he's only 76 and completely self sufficient) and he's not going to waste it hiding at home. My mom kind of goes with the flow. I'll be honest, I don't really know why or how he got here. He's a smart man who has always been polite and helpful. But he doesn't know anyone whose gotten sick and I think he's just really invested in that world view. He used to always tell everyone how smart I was and now he likes to poke fun at me and convince me I've been duped. I'm with you, I don't really understand it. I know plenty of other people his age who have been super careful and only see their grandkids outside wearing masks. It's like we're all living in two different worlds!17 -
Got my flu shot today, only the second time ever. I almost never get the flu (twice in 63 years) so have avoided the shot, but this year is different. Also, with an 81 year old husband with health issues, I know it's not about me. While I can survive a bad case of flu, I'm not risking his health. He got his shot too, but at a different pharmacy. Walgreens had the senior vaccine that he needs, but didn't take my insurance. Riteaid took my insurance, but didn't have the senior vaccine. Fortunately, both visits were quick. There were no lines.
Gisel - to answer your question, IMO one of the problems is that those of us who have lived a while have heard media hyperbole too many times on issues that didn't turn out to be a big deal for most people. If your parents don't know anyone well who has gotten seriously ill or died, they may just assume that it's one more example of media exaggeration.3 -
I have to say I have gone to CVS every year for my flu shot recently and despite it being a different pharmacist every year have never had a bad experience. Just got mine this morning. They do always focus on getting you to relax your arm.
Just low key bullied my mom into making appointments now for her & my dad to get flu shots. They keep meaning to but putting it off. They are in their 70s and see my nephews (who are going to school) all the time like it's not a pandemic or anything grrrr. So if they aren't going to protect themselves from getting covid from them, at least do something to try to prevent the flu for pete's sake
I respectfully ask this question. Why is that some seniors are reluctant to get the flu vaccine, keep distance, avoid seeing friends and family under the present COVID situation, wear masks, and expect that the normal holiday celebrations should take place like nothing is happening in the country or the world? I really don't get it. I am not talking only about your parents @kimny72, so please don't take it personally or get offended. It is something that read in this threat and others several times in the last few months.
My husband just turned 81 and I will be 77 in a couple of months, so we are both supper seniors. I don't expect or need my children to coach me to follow CDC guidelines or to take the flu shot. We already know what's a stake and I actually remind my children to take the flu shot every year. I don't want friends in my house or family for the holidays, and I was very clear with everybody about that decision. My husband agrees and supports my decision. It will not be the same but at least we will not be trying to catch our breath or in need to call the paramedics. Hopefully!!!!
We miss our children and grandchildren because we haven't seen them in person in several months but we don't want to get sick or died (possible at our age), and we don't want to make them sick either, should we get infected. They don't live near us, so they are not part of our bubble and neither are our friends and neighbors even if they live near by.
What and why is so hard to understand and how can we fix it? I really, really don't understand the thinking of some seniors, and younger people too. Ignoring the facts and the risks will not make us better or safer.
That is only my opinion and rant is over.
Speaking as an oldie (who doesn't necessarily feel this way herself, but observes others in the demographic), I think it's some combination of things like:
* Being in a behavioral groove or rut that was comfortable, that they somehow earned with a long life of effort, and not wanting to leave that spot
* Feeling like the remainder of life is short and not wanting to give up some range of pleasurable current activities for an unknown/theoretical benefit
* A "Que sera, sera" philosophical attitude . . . something's gonna get me sooner or later, and it won't be a huge long time regardless
* Other people's troubles are *always* theoretical
* We've experienced a lot of Stuff, and rely on habit and intuition cognitively to a greater extent, generally . . . but this is an unprecedented situation, in our lives, so our reflexes/intuitions don't serve well.
. . . and stuff like that. I don't think you can "fix" old people (to make them think like you do - generic you, not individual you), any more than you can make young people (with their also different level of brain and cognitive status) think differently, with the "wisdom of age".
Young people will reach there, with some age on 'em, on average. Older people are somewhere in a cognitive/philosophical space you haven't been in yet, and they're not coming back to your zone, not ever.
Specific individual elders might be brought around to your way of wanting them to act, but how to do that will also need to be individualized. I got nothin'.9 -
I don’t think it’s an age thing. It’s an occurrence in all age groups, and may be, at least partly, politically induced. I personally can not understand the philosophy, and I try very hard to. People are always entitled to their opinions.
However, with over 218,000 deaths in the US, over 8,000,000 cases, in less than a year, I’m of the persuasion of trusting the overwhelming majority of the medical profession on this one. I’m a 69 year old senior.
There is a lot at stake economically, but following the experts recommended path of caution, seems to slow this down. That some people cannot see this remains unclear to me. At this point, personal freedom of choice, that potentially puts others at risk, seems selfish. I can’t believe anyone would intentionally, want to be responsible for someone else contracting this and continuing the possible spread. I honestly do want to understand.9 -
Blerg. Am staying at a hotel for my son’s state championship cross country (bc TN decided to keep it in Far East—Knoxville—instead of moving to middle of state—Nashville—where there’d be plenty of people who could drive in for the day instead of having to stay overnight). Got up early to work out both days in unventilated closet, aka hotel gym. Occupancy limit of 2. I was alone both times but each time someone came in to work out right next to me! I left. Occupancy limit is a joke here, the next machine is maybe a foot away. So I guess I’ll do some laps in the parking lot.8
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I respectfully ask this question. Why is that some seniors are reluctant to get the flu vaccine, keep distance, avoid seeing friends and family under the present COVID situation, wear masks, and expect that the normal holiday celebrations should take place like nothing is happening in the country or the world? I really don't get it. I am not talking only about your parents @kimny72, so please don't take it personally or get offended. It is something that read in this threat and others several times in the last few months.
I can only add the attitudes of my parents vs my MIL.
My parents (85 & 83) have been holed up since the beginning of March. After months of literally not obtaining anything for themselves (father is very computer literate but would not order anything online), I have forced them to be slightly more self sufficient (ie they now do curbside pickup). When I visit with them, it is outside, 6+ feet away and sometimes with the added mask.
In contrast, my MIL (82) has specifically stated "I have lived my life". She goes to restaurants, does all her own shopping. She became a widow a year ago and my FIL and great grand kids were her life's purpose. FIL is now gone. so she wants those great-grand babies around. The problem is all the grand kids (parents of great grand kids) are each bubbling in their homes and don't trust going near her due to her openness. I think that solitude drives her out of her home even more, and around and around it goes. Hubby flew her back down to Florida two days ago where she has friends who are all like minded and she will be much happier. We hope she remains safe and healthy.
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On a totally separate comment, I got a free "Stop the Spread" COVID test yesterday. With hubby out of town, daughter wants me to babysit but she and her husband's family have been in tight bubble due to age of SIL's parents. Soooooo, daughter asked me to get tested so I can baby-sit and be a less risky addition to their bubble.
Stop the Spread tests in Massachusetts are free and only free if not symptomatic. The tech carrying out the test came out to my car for me to do my paperwork and perform my test. Though outside, she wore two layered masks and a full body disposable white hooded suit. She took my temp and O2 level. Test was the comfortable lower nostril. I think it was the one demonstrated by that general recently.
Results took longer than stated, but I had them in 2 1/2 hours. Negative! (No real surprise)11 -
rheddmobile wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Someone on another thread who celebrated Canadian Thanksgiving recently mentioned he was unable to find a turkey as small as he wanted and this reminded me that I had heard a news story this AM predicting smaller turkeys could be in short supply this year - thought I'd pass this along.
Retailers needed to tell the turkey farmers in March or April that they wanted a higher proportion of smaller turkeys and this didn't happen.
At 6-8 pounds, "Oven Stuffer Roaster" type whole chickens might be a good alternative.
I love turkey and like to plan for lots of leftovers. My "Joy of Cooking" has many recipes that call for cooked chicken or turkey. If I have no choice but an overly large turkey I might plan to make soup and other recipes that freeze well. And/or I could buy it early and celebrate early.
It’s just me, my husband, and my mom this year, and everyone but me hates turkey, so we agreed we are doing a stuffed leg of lamb instead, and I am buying some smoked turkey breast from honey baked for myself.
I have a minor problem. My mom has a good friend who isn’t traveling to her family for Christmas and wants to have Christmas breakfast with us. I love her dearly and know she would walk through fire for my mom, but she has way more outside contact than we do - travels out of state, attends church, works in healthcare, is a very outgoing person - and I’m not even slightly cool with having her in my house for hours including eating a meal with no mask on. I sort of hinted at this and my mom pretended not to hear me, so I am not going to be able to say anything in a subtle fashion, and I have no idea how to handle it.
Before my sister and nephews came to stay with my mom this summer they took tests and quarantined. (I think it was just a week, but they had had negligible outside contact and wore masks when they were out.)
I'm so grateful to live in Mask-achusetts, where the state, my friends and family, and my neighbors with whom I'm friendly are all taking this seriously and we are all on the same page.
I don't consider your problem to only be minor. It could literally be a matter or life and death. Sounds like you need to sit your mom down and have the serious talk. I'm sure someone will be along with suggestions for languaging. @kimny72?11
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