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Question for the community: Anyone have first hand anecdote of someone having covid in 2020, then a vaccine, then contracting covid again?2
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Question for the community: Anyone have first hand anecdote of someone having covid in 2020, then a vaccine, then contracting covid again?
I don't. My niece and her family caught covid in December 2020. It was mild for all of them but they followed the rules. Quarantine for more than 14 days, followed by two negative PCR tests before they ventured out or went back to work.
They haven't complained about any long term COVID side effects. They all got vaccinated (Moderna and Pfizer) when their ages allowed, even the young teenager. But they never stopped wearing masks indoors, and my niece is wearing her mask at work again considering the increase in infection due to Delta, even if masks are not required at her job. And the teen is planning to wear her mask at school when she goes back to in-person classes next month.
Hope that your daughter is getting better.
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Question for the community: Anyone have first hand anecdote of someone having covid in 2020, then a vaccine, then contracting covid again?
Not yet. My brother-in-law's wife caught covid from someone at work around Thanksgiving last year. He got sick too. They got the J&J shot in late April or May. So far they have not contracted it again to their knowledge. We'll see in a few weeks. Wife is traveling to MI and then OH for work, and Delta is ramping up here but not exploded. Yet. So we'll see.
I also hope your daughter is feeling better.
My other inlaws are in quarantine though due to exposure from someone who later tested positive. We are in northeastern TN. The other brother-in-law and wife have never masked and refuse the vaccine and so...I wasn't shocked when they got the call. Our county is still only 29% vaccinated. Masking has been barely existent here the entire time. Since the CDC made their masking proclamation, masking is virtually extinct. Though my immediate family has still been masking since we have an ineligible child. The careless couple were in contact with hubby's parents though. One of whom refuses to get the 2nd shot. All are rife with comorbidities. I hope they are all ok. I also hope they'll learn something from the scare, but they haven't learned anything from previous close calls with the original virus, so I won't hold my breath.11 -
Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.17
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I'm from Massachusetts and lived in Florida for seven years. Glad to be back in MA. Our "nanny state" has long done things like mandated yearly car inspections, recycling, added a surcharge on bottles so they get returned, and is known as "Taxachusetts." However, despite our shaky rollout, we are # 2, after Vermont, for vaccination rate.
In my county, 63% of Total Population and 74% of Population ≥ 18 Years of Age has had at least one shot.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view
Nevertheless, I've yet to eat in a restaurant or attend any indoor event. I've been fully vaccinated since April and am unmasked in grocery stores, but only go at off peak times.
I don't do touristy things in Plymouth, let alone P-Town, where there was a recent outbreak despite high vaccinated rate of both the residents and the people who got sick.9 -
SummerSkier wrote: »Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.
I doubt it's worse now. I live in a place where we've had a pretty bad experience, and the highest deaths were 238 (for my city) in Dec, with the second worse 191 on May 13, 2020. Current deaths are at 1. I think the media isn't accurately reporting what is really going on.4 -
SummerSkier wrote: »Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.
I doubt it's worse now. I live in a place where we've had a pretty bad experience, and the highest deaths were 238 (for my city) in Dec, with the second worse 191 on May 13, 2020. Current deaths are at 1. I think the media isn't accurately reporting what is really going on.
Several states are reporting full ICUs and are canceling elective and non essential procedures. Deaths are a lagging statistic, it often takes several weeks for a serious case to become fatal. That 1 death is a reflection of community spread in May and June. Not saying it WILL be worse, just that cases exploding now won't be reflected in deaths until September.13 -
SummerSkier wrote: »Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.
Vaccine efficacy is not less than 50%. The vaccines are intended to prevent severe illness and death, and they are still doing that dramatically well. The hope was that they would also prevent infection, and they also seem to do that very well in most variants, maybe not so well with Delta. But even in that MA spreader, I believe there was only a few hospitalizations and one death.
Having said this, I don't blame you in the least for requesting WFH right now. There's been a lot of whispering at my office here in VA that considering positivity rates and a few high risk/ older employees (plus a couple of unvaxxed employees) maybe we should get anyone who can do it back out of the office. Why risk even one bad case when we already proved we can WFH? My goal is still to avoid infection until more is known about what infection actually does to the body, and if vaxxed cases typically limit whatever that damage is, but I realize that might be a pipe dream at this point. I'm still gonna try though
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I’ve not seen any statistics showing which shot people with breakthrough cases got. It seems like that would be an interesting statistic.
If anyone has seen the breakdown, please post.6 -
Let's go get sick, woohoo! **Kittens** sitting in a 10 person shuttle with three people sniffling and the driver apologizing for asking people to wear a mask because it is still mandated; but won't be soon.
As I said: as long as I've done my bit by getting vaccinated I have a right to share my cooties with you. Oh, wait, it wasn't me who was arguing that. I was arguing for taking measures to avoid sharing in spite of being vaccinated. Funny that!8 -
HawkingRadiation wrote: »I’ve not seen any statistics showing which shot people with breakthrough cases got. It seems like that would be an interesting statistic.
If anyone has seen the breakdown, please post.
I don't know if somebody (CDC??) is keeping track of which vaccine has the most break-thru cases, or if testing centers ask for the name of the vaccine that a person received. It would be interesting to know.
I was reading online (Mr. Google to the rescue) that breakthrough cases may be under counted and underestimated since not all vaccinated people feeling sick or "thinking" that they got covid seek testing. Some just quarantine themselves for few days. In addition, some vaccinated people that might have been infected with the new variant could be totally un-symptomatic, but still able to spread the virus. That is why masks are still needed.
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Finally started seeing my two young grandkids this June/ hadnt since march 2020. Here we go again!! This delta is getting worse from what I hear.
Plus I hear Louisiana is high infection and their other grandparents who babysit weekly are there right now visiting. We are all in Ohio. I pray they dont bring the delta home with them for their sake and granddaughters and their mom and dad, and me and my husbands. And anyone else they come in contact with for that matter.
I will be wearing my mask at my home from now on if we get company and again still try to limit people coming inside. I never did stop wearing it otherwise and havent set foot in any stores since march 2020.
Happy b day to my brother in heaven, he died from covid complication January this year.
May we all keep safe and wash your hands wear your mask and limit big crowds.25 -
HawkingRadiation wrote: »I’ve not seen any statistics showing which shot people with breakthrough cases got. It seems like that would be an interesting statistic.
If anyone has seen the breakdown, please post.
I don't know if somebody (CDC??) is keeping track of which vaccine has the most break-thru cases, or if testing centers ask for the name of the vaccine that a person received. It would be interesting to know.
I was reading online (Mr. Google to the rescue) that breakthrough cases may be under counted and underestimated since not all vaccinated people feeling sick or "thinking" that they got covid seek testing. Some just quarantine themselves for few days. In addition, some vaccinated people that might have been infected with the new variant could be totally un-symptomatic, but still able to spread the virus. That is why masks are still needed.
A podcast called Up First (NPR) discussed this last week. Sorry, don’t remember the day. LMK if you’re interested and I’ll figure out which episode. It said the CDC was expecting breakthrough infections and did not expect them to be significant, so the CDC never tracked breakthrough infections by variant type or by vaccine type or anything at all. In retrospect it seems It would have been useful information.8 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.
I doubt it's worse now. I live in a place where we've had a pretty bad experience, and the highest deaths were 238 (for my city) in Dec, with the second worse 191 on May 13, 2020. Current deaths are at 1. I think the media isn't accurately reporting what is really going on.
See what happens in a couple weeks when the seeds planted by Lalapolooza in Chicago germinate.
Isn't the Sturgis (sp?) motorcycle rally happening soon in SD too? I believe that is the one that was considered a big spreader last year. Oh dear, here we go again.
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In Belgium, we have high vax rates (I'll post them here below for reference).
Still, my friend's mother passed away Saturday from Covid, she was in a care home for several years and had severe underlying conditions but had tested positive for the delta variant just last week. Every patient on the ward was fully vaccinated since February, the staff had a 93% vaccination rate. The only thing they changed this month was allowing more visitors. Four other patients on the ward have also passed quiet soon after testing positive unfortunately. They were are all very elderly with severe comorbidities.
The Delta variant changes the warfare against Covid, sadly.
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.
I doubt it's worse now. I live in a place where we've had a pretty bad experience, and the highest deaths were 238 (for my city) in Dec, with the second worse 191 on May 13, 2020. Current deaths are at 1. I think the media isn't accurately reporting what is really going on.
See what happens in a couple weeks when the seeds planted by Lalapolooza in Chicago germinate.
Yeah, admittedly I've been worried about that. They should have at least required everyone to be vaxxed (I understand why they didn't want to cancel it). Apparently those attending were mostly ignoring the rules that require everyone on public transit to be masked (previously, I've found most on the brown line and buses where I am had been following the rules).7 -
I'm finding it - interesting - that my workplace has not gone to remote work for those of us who have no "real" reason to be in the office, especially as they've had to shut down a couple of our offices (some multiple times) for deep cleaning after someone came in with covid (not on purpose). Many of our jobs don't really require us to keep a chair warm.....shoot, in my case, the office I primarily work with is in FL (I'm in GA), and my boss is in AZ - like, um, why do I really have to be there (besides the fact that the gas and 1 1/2 hours of commute time sure would be nice to have back!).15
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HoneyBadger302 wrote: »I'm finding it - interesting - that my workplace has not gone to remote work for those of us who have no "real" reason to be in the office, especially as they've had to shut down a couple of our offices (some multiple times) for deep cleaning after someone came in with covid (not on purpose). Many of our jobs don't really require us to keep a chair warm.....shoot, in my case, the office I primarily work with is in FL (I'm in GA), and my boss is in AZ - like, um, why do I really have to be there (besides the fact that the gas and 1 1/2 hours of commute time sure would be nice to have back!).
Unfortunately, a lot of management folks are obsessed with the idea that "corporate culture" is of the highest priority. If people aren't here, how can we all feel like a team? They also tend to be extroverts, so they assume all their workers are energized by an office full of people like they are. And some are untrusting, they can't help but thinking we're somehow getting something for free off them if we aren't in a professional setting.
Not saying being physically present doesn't have its advantages, but management types IMHO tend to over-prioritize it even when WFH has been working fine.
As an introvert with an administrative job that doesn't require much if any teamwork, the transition back to the office has been really stressful, more so now that the covid numbers are headed in the wrong direction again. And the reason why we're back in the office? "Because we decided this is what's best."
Filling up the gas tank again is the worst, isn't it? That wiggle room in my budget was really nice to have
Maybe they'll come around soon... 14 -
While my Long Covid seems to be better KY like most of USA is red hot with Delta. Local FB posts are mainly about standing up for your Constitutional Right to refuse the vaccine shots. Yesterday a doctor at a large regional hospital made a long post stating they would do their best but it was starting to go south for non vaccinated patients showing up now.
It is like so many fear possible vaccine side effects more than the real threat even dying from the Delta varient near term.15 -
MediCare authorized NPs to continue doing virtual hospice face-to-face visits, rather than in person, through November 2021. I miss seeing patients, but I'm relieved. So many of our nursing homes have active COIVD cases again. So sad.11
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.
I doubt it's worse now. I live in a place where we've had a pretty bad experience, and the highest deaths were 238 (for my city) in Dec, with the second worse 191 on May 13, 2020. Current deaths are at 1. I think the media isn't accurately reporting what is really going on.
See what happens in a couple weeks when the seeds planted by Lalapolooza in Chicago germinate.
Yeah, admittedly I've been worried about that. They should have at least required everyone to be vaxxed (I understand why they didn't want to cancel it). Apparently those attending were mostly ignoring the rules that require everyone on public transit to be masked (previously, I've found most on the brown line and buses where I am had been following the rules).
Think it would have been virtually impossible to check that many people at an area that really isn't designed as a concert venue.
Lolla concert-goers were required to show either proof of vaccination or a negative Covid test within 3 days prior.
https://support.lollapalooza.com/hc/en-us/articles/4403048984852-Covid-19-Health-Policy-and-Lollapalooza-Entry-Requirements5 -
HawkingRadiation wrote: »I’ve not seen any statistics showing which shot people with breakthrough cases got. It seems like that would be an interesting statistic.
If anyone has seen the breakdown, please post.
I don't know if somebody (CDC??) is keeping track of which vaccine has the most break-thru cases, or if testing centers ask for the name of the vaccine that a person received. It would be interesting to know.
I was reading online (Mr. Google to the rescue) that breakthrough cases may be under counted and underestimated since not all vaccinated people feeling sick or "thinking" that they got covid seek testing. Some just quarantine themselves for few days. In addition, some vaccinated people that might have been infected with the new variant could be totally un-symptomatic, but still able to spread the virus. That is why masks are still needed.
I agree. My dh was sick last week with a bad cold; I'm guessing but we had no proof. When he called the dr. they told him not to worry about getting tested because he had Covid back in November and was vaccinated in March/April. They only asked if he was running a fever. With all the breakthrough infections going on of vaccinated people.....I didn't agree with his dr. at all.
Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?
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Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?
Hard not to get "political". I think we've heard me rant about a certain province and about the "feeling" that once we've been vaccinated we're good to go hug everyone without masks or restrictions and no matter what.
Up to now I haven't encouraged my dad to move out of "that" province because a) he has built his life and support network there and because b) I've felt that him moving to a congregate facility currently represents a risk that he can/could still afford to avoid by remaining home alone c) I was hoping that things would improve so that he could move to an independent living facility near his current location so as to retain contact with people he knows
With the decision to hide our head in the sand and avoid further testing (as of the end of August testing in Alberta will only be available when your doctor feels that testing you for COVID is relevant in terms of providing care to you), and with the general anti-masking attitude in the province (here's looking at you Superstore employees not wearing masks... oh, sorry, I'm not looking, because I'm shopping at Walmart where they do wear them)... anyway, I am seriously considering whether it is time to start arguing for him to move to an independent living facility in another province where we still consider masking indoors to be appropriate and closer to where I live.9 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »Delta is exploding here in my county. I feel a little angry that I have to "ask" but I just sent a note in to my manager requesting to work remote until the "uncontrolled community spread" is over here. It's probably worse now than at any time during the 15 months I was remote. And with the efficacy of the vaccine being possibly less than 50% I hope they approve this request.
I doubt it's worse now. I live in a place where we've had a pretty bad experience, and the highest deaths were 238 (for my city) in Dec, with the second worse 191 on May 13, 2020. Current deaths are at 1. I think the media isn't accurately reporting what is really going on.
See what happens in a couple weeks when the seeds planted by Lalapolooza in Chicago germinate.
Yeah, admittedly I've been worried about that. They should have at least required everyone to be vaxxed (I understand why they didn't want to cancel it). Apparently those attending were mostly ignoring the rules that require everyone on public transit to be masked (previously, I've found most on the brown line and buses where I am had been following the rules).
Think it would have been virtually impossible to check that many people at an area that really isn't designed as a concert venue.
They were checking. You just also could have a negative test (w/in 72 hours).2 -
HawkingRadiation wrote: »I’ve not seen any statistics showing which shot people with breakthrough cases got. It seems like that would be an interesting statistic.
If anyone has seen the breakdown, please post.
I don't know if somebody (CDC??) is keeping track of which vaccine has the most break-thru cases, or if testing centers ask for the name of the vaccine that a person received. It would be interesting to know.
I was reading online (Mr. Google to the rescue) that breakthrough cases may be under counted and underestimated since not all vaccinated people feeling sick or "thinking" that they got covid seek testing. Some just quarantine themselves for few days. In addition, some vaccinated people that might have been infected with the new variant could be totally un-symptomatic, but still able to spread the virus. That is why masks are still needed.
I agree. My dh was sick last week with a bad cold; I'm guessing but we had no proof. When he called the dr. they told him not to worry about getting tested because he had Covid back in November and was vaccinated in March/April. They only asked if he was running a fever. With all the breakthrough infections going on of vaccinated people.....I didn't agree with his dr. at all.
Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?
The way to keep an eye on that is the positivity rate. When I checked a couple of days ago NH had a low positivity rate, so it appears people are getting tested or at least that the low numbers aren't simply due to low tests.4 -
Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?
Hard not to get "political". I think we've heard me rant about a certain province and about the "feeling" that once we've been vaccinated we're good to go hug everyone without masks or restrictions and no matter what.
Up to now I haven't encouraged my dad to move out of "that" province because a) he has built his life and support network there and because b) I've felt that him moving to a congregate facility currently represents a risk that he can/could still afford to avoid by remaining home alone c) I was hoping that things would improve so that he could move to an independent living facility near his current location so as to retain contact with people he knows
With the decision to hide our head in the sand and avoid further testing (as of the end of August testing in Alberta will only be available when your doctor feels that testing you for COVID is relevant in terms of providing care to you), and with the general anti-masking attitude in the province (here's looking at you Superstore employees not wearing masks... oh, sorry, I'm not looking, because I'm shopping at Walmart where they do wear them)... anyway, I am seriously considering whether it is time to start arguing for him to move to an independent living facility in another province where we still consider masking indoors to be appropriate and closer to where I live.
Taking away his support system might do more harm than the risk of him getting Covid right now, especially if he is vaccinated and living alone. A lot of older people who are moved far from home end up not lasting long because they feel so cut off from all they knew.7 -
Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?
Hard not to get "political". I think we've heard me rant about a certain province and about the "feeling" that once we've been vaccinated we're good to go hug everyone without masks or restrictions and no matter what.
Up to now I haven't encouraged my dad to move out of "that" province because a) he has built his life and support network there and because b) I've felt that him moving to a congregate facility currently represents a risk that he can/could still afford to avoid by remaining home alone c) I was hoping that things would improve so that he could move to an independent living facility near his current location so as to retain contact with people he knows
With the decision to hide our head in the sand and avoid further testing (as of the end of August testing in Alberta will only be available when your doctor feels that testing you for COVID is relevant in terms of providing care to you), and with the general anti-masking attitude in the province (here's looking at you Superstore employees not wearing masks... oh, sorry, I'm not looking, because I'm shopping at Walmart where they do wear them)... anyway, I am seriously considering whether it is time to start arguing for him to move to an independent living facility in another province where we still consider masking indoors to be appropriate and closer to where I live.
Throughout all of this I have been incredibly thankful that my frail, mobility-impaired 82 year old father has continued to live independently in his own home, even though it has meant an extra house for me to maintain. At least he's been safe.
I don't know if you have Chartwell homes there, or if his budget can accommodate the price tag, but they fared very well locally. Not a single outbreak.5 -
HawkingRadiation wrote: »I’ve not seen any statistics showing which shot people with breakthrough cases got. It seems like that would be an interesting statistic.
If anyone has seen the breakdown, please post.
I don't know if somebody (CDC??) is keeping track of which vaccine has the most break-thru cases, or if testing centers ask for the name of the vaccine that a person received. It would be interesting to know.
I was reading online (Mr. Google to the rescue) that breakthrough cases may be under counted and underestimated since not all vaccinated people feeling sick or "thinking" that they got covid seek testing. Some just quarantine themselves for few days. In addition, some vaccinated people that might have been infected with the new variant could be totally un-symptomatic, but still able to spread the virus. That is why masks are still needed.
I agree. My dh was sick last week with a bad cold; I'm guessing but we had no proof. When he called the dr. they told him not to worry about getting tested because he had Covid back in November and was vaccinated in March/April. They only asked if he was running a fever. With all the breakthrough infections going on of vaccinated people.....I didn't agree with his dr. at all.
Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?
That's especially worrisome because the main symptoms of the delta variant are headache, runny nose, sore throat... just like a very bad cold.7 -
HawkingRadiation wrote: »I’ve not seen any statistics showing which shot people with breakthrough cases got. It seems like that would be an interesting statistic.
If anyone has seen the breakdown, please post.
I don't know if somebody (CDC??) is keeping track of which vaccine has the most break-thru cases, or if testing centers ask for the name of the vaccine that a person received. It would be interesting to know.
I was reading online (Mr. Google to the rescue) that breakthrough cases may be under counted and underestimated since not all vaccinated people feeling sick or "thinking" that they got covid seek testing. Some just quarantine themselves for few days. In addition, some vaccinated people that might have been infected with the new variant could be totally un-symptomatic, but still able to spread the virus. That is why masks are still needed.
I agree. My dh was sick last week with a bad cold; I'm guessing but we had no proof. When he called the dr. they told him not to worry about getting tested because he had Covid back in November and was vaccinated in March/April. They only asked if he was running a fever. With all the breakthrough infections going on of vaccinated people.....I didn't agree with his dr. at all.
Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?
Could go ahead and get tested. My mom and several people in the same house have had a bad cold lately. She had Covid August 2020 and was vaccinated earlier this year. If not for negative tests, I would have guessed Covid again. But people still do get other respiratory infections.10 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »I’ve not seen any statistics showing which shot people with breakthrough cases got. It seems like that would be an interesting statistic.
If anyone has seen the breakdown, please post.
I don't know if somebody (CDC??) is keeping track of which vaccine has the most break-thru cases, or if testing centers ask for the name of the vaccine that a person received. It would be interesting to know.
I was reading online (Mr. Google to the rescue) that breakthrough cases may be under counted and underestimated since not all vaccinated people feeling sick or "thinking" that they got covid seek testing. Some just quarantine themselves for few days. In addition, some vaccinated people that might have been infected with the new variant could be totally un-symptomatic, but still able to spread the virus. That is why masks are still needed.
I agree. My dh was sick last week with a bad cold; I'm guessing but we had no proof. When he called the dr. they told him not to worry about getting tested because he had Covid back in November and was vaccinated in March/April. They only asked if he was running a fever. With all the breakthrough infections going on of vaccinated people.....I didn't agree with his dr. at all.
Our numbers are low but are they really, if people aren't getting tested the way they were?
Could go ahead and get tested. My mom and several people in the same house have had a bad cold lately. She had Covid August 2020 and was vaccinated earlier this year. If not for negative tests, I would have guessed Covid again. But people still do get other respiratory infections.
He's fine now. But it still baffles me why they didn't at least give him the option. He probably could've pushed a test for himself but he's one of those people that a) believe everything his dr. tells him and b) is lazy. They told him people are getting bad colds in our area so he went with that. 
But then how would they know if they're all bad colds and not Covid if they're not still pushing the tests?
He feels justified by his drs. decision because he didn't have a fever and didn't lose his sense of taste or smell. I reminded him that back when we contracted it in November, my only symptom was fatigue and I was tested because he'd had a "cold" and got tested. I cannot remember if he had a fever then or not.
They're getting lax with the testing. SMH
And to @lokihen, I agree with you.10
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