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Fitness and diet myths that just won't go away

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  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,281 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    paperpudding wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    One needs to "hydrate" and/or bring a water bottle for a 30 minute leisurely walk around the neighborhood.


    That doesn't sound silly to me - I guess not something you absolutely need, depending on the climate but seems sensible especially in hot weather.

    Muslins have fasted from sunrise to sunset in observation of Ramadan for centuries (which includes no water) in all sorts of climates doing all sorts of activities

    Again no need to hydrate on a leisure 30 minute walk around the neighborhood..


    Leaving religious practices aside - yes I agreed there is no NEED for it for most people in most conditions - but doesnt seem a silly idea and indeed seems a very sensible idea in hot conditions.

    Ive done a 5km fun run/walk (takes me about 40 minutes to walk it) and water stations are set up along the route.

    If I am going by myself, doesn't seem silly to take my own water



  • freda666
    freda666 Posts: 338 Member
    ythannah wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    One needs to "hydrate" and/or bring a water bottle for a 30 minute leisurely walk around the neighborhood.

    Agreed. I normally walk for an hour and I need to restrict water intake for about 30 minutes prior to heading out as there are no public restrooms on my walk route and water goes straight through me. (Although this tactic may be unique to middle-aged lady bladders) If it's very hot outside I do carry a water bottle but don't drink until after the halfway point or my "walk" turns into a sprint.

    I have to do the same......
  • penguinmama87
    penguinmama87 Posts: 1,155 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    paperpudding wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    One needs to "hydrate" and/or bring a water bottle for a 30 minute leisurely walk around the neighborhood.


    That doesn't sound silly to me - I guess not something you absolutely need, depending on the climate but seems sensible especially in hot weather.

    Muslins have fasted from sunrise to sunset in observation of Ramadan for centuries (which includes no water) in all sorts of climates doing all sorts of activities

    Again no need to hydrate on a leisure 30 minute walk around the neighborhood..

    I'm not super familiar with Ramadan fasting but it's my understanding that there are lots of exemptions from the strictest requirements. I don't believe it's every single person regardless of age or health.

    (My experience with this is Christian fasting seasons of Lent and Advent. The restrictions are much looser now for many [and many don't observe at all], but the idea that is that with fewer restrictions, more people can participate. In the past, when restrictions were much more intensive, fewer people fasted. And for even those who were in very good health, the idea was often that there was that there was an ideal to strive for, but that many would not meet it. [And water has always been permitted.])

    I do prefer to take water with me but fwiw I don't think I'll die without it. If I forget, it's fine. It's just a matter of comfort, especially in hot weather. In the summer I'm much more likely to want it than a cool spring or fall day.
  • ccrdragon
    ccrdragon Posts: 3,374 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Can't remember whether someone mentioned this on the thread before (maybe even me) and not so much a myth as a misunderstanding:

    * White flour (and derivatives) and things of that ilk are simple carbs
    * Fruits are complex carbs
    * Cookies, chocolate, alcohol are "carbs" (worse yet, pizza is "a carb")

    No.

    Piggy back off of this... there was a thread on Friday where someone called ice cream a simple carb... DOH!!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,982 Member
    BarbaraHelen2013 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    You have to workout in the "fat-burning zone" to burn fat.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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    I’ve just had a fairly heated argument with my husband about this one, this morning. He’s been banging on about it for weeks and I ‘snapped’. 🤦‍♀️

    And l will add this myth that I don’t think has been mentioned yet:

    ‘You have to eat only the foods appropriate for your blood type in order to lose weight’

    🅰️🅱️🆎🅾️ 🙄
    Lol, on the blood type diet. So many scams out there and many unknowledgeable people fall for them because they don't really science.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    The Blood Type Diet is my absolute favorite goofy diet.
  • Mangoperson88
    Mangoperson88 Posts: 339 Member
    Ab energiser belt that promises to melt away belly fat. You just have to wrap it around your waist for 15-20 minutes and do nothing .
    I was dumb enough to believe that *kitten* And purchase it when I was 15-16 and didn't have much fat on my body :|
  • getitamb
    getitamb Posts: 2,019 Member
    That 30 minutes of exercising 4 times a week is gonna be where the weight comes off. It’s in being active and staying in a caloric deficit. Step goals are more realistic.
  • getitamb
    getitamb Posts: 2,019 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    "Go hard or go home"...the notion that exercise has to be some kind of sufferfest to be beneficial and if you're not ready to puke when you're done, you might as well have done nothing at all.

    I do think that having some more vigorous efforts thrown into the mix is beneficial from a health and fitness standpoint...but IMO, unless you're specifically training for something, an overall active lifestyle is where it's at. And if you are training specifically for something, I would also think one would know how to train and would know that every training bout shouldn't be some crazy workout.

    Most of the very fit and healthy people I know do "workout" some...but by and large, they are just active and enjoy being out on their bikes or hiking or rock climbing, kayaking, walking, going for a jog, etc.




    This is so true. All of it.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Protein is the only nutrient a person should pay attention to.
    Protein quality (in terms of essential amino acid composition) is unimportant.
    There's no need to pay attention to protein quantity when eating WFPB, because plants are just *that* healthful.

    Yes, the whole "Have you ever heard of someone being hospitalized for protein deficiency? If you eat enough, you'll automatically get enough protein" argument drives me up the wall.

    There's a whole range of outcomes between "thriving" and "hospitalized for deficiency" that the argument ignores. You can absolutely be missing out on stuff and still never get to the level where you require hospital care.
  • ythannah
    ythannah Posts: 4,371 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Protein is the only nutrient a person should pay attention to.
    Protein quality (in terms of essential amino acid composition) is unimportant.
    There's no need to pay attention to protein quantity when eating WFPB, because plants are just *that* healthful.

    Yes, the whole "Have you ever heard of someone being hospitalized for protein deficiency? If you eat enough, you'll automatically get enough protein" argument drives me up the wall.

    There's a whole range of outcomes between "thriving" and "hospitalized for deficiency" that the argument ignores. You can absolutely be missing out on stuff and still never get to the level where you require hospital care.

    Absolutely. When I first joined MFP and began logging to track sodium, I was a bit alarmed to see I was only consuming an average of 20 g protein a day. Although technically pescetarian, I lean heavily vegetarian when I cook for myself, fish and seafood was mainly confined to meals eaten out. I'd eaten high carb and low protein for decades at that point, you can imagine how little muscle I was carrying!
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    ythannah wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Protein is the only nutrient a person should pay attention to.
    Protein quality (in terms of essential amino acid composition) is unimportant.
    There's no need to pay attention to protein quantity when eating WFPB, because plants are just *that* healthful.

    Yes, the whole "Have you ever heard of someone being hospitalized for protein deficiency? If you eat enough, you'll automatically get enough protein" argument drives me up the wall.

    There's a whole range of outcomes between "thriving" and "hospitalized for deficiency" that the argument ignores. You can absolutely be missing out on stuff and still never get to the level where you require hospital care.

    Absolutely. When I first joined MFP and began logging to track sodium, I was a bit alarmed to see I was only consuming an average of 20 g protein a day. Although technically pescetarian, I lean heavily vegetarian when I cook for myself, fish and seafood was mainly confined to meals eaten out. I'd eaten high carb and low protein for decades at that point, you can imagine how little muscle I was carrying!

    Yeah, that was one of the first trends I noticed when I started logging. When I ate more overall (AKA, enough to be overweight), I didn't really have a problem getting enough protein . . . because I was eating a lot of everything. But once I cut calories, I absolutely had to learn how to eat in a way that made sure I was getting enough.

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