At Goal & Successfully Maintaining. So Why Am I Doing This All Over Again?
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Have to add to the bread conversation…hearing about the La Banderita carb smart tortillas, I had to check them out. They not only had small ones for 35 calories, but also really small ones for 20 calories. I tried them out (the 35 calorie ones) and I think they taste fine, no complaints. The low calories fit my budget to allow one (with a bit of Neufchâtel cheese) for ‘first breakfast’ and then another for ‘second breakfast’ (there’s a little bit of hobbit in all of us). I’m not too wired about carbs one way or the other; the low calories are the appeal to me. My previous flour, taco-sized tortillas were 75 calories. Thanks!6
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@Springlering62 so, you & BL both use Apple Watch, I think. Wondering if you use just what is available on it or if you've had to download outside apps to get good use out of it? Not very tech here, but finally impulse purchased the series 7. Trying to figure out what to do with it now, lol. I am having trouble seeing my rings even, wondering if it's because I thought the Mickey face was cute and put it on there. Any must do suggestions, or make it easier suggestions for the watch? I have been working my way to fitness and weight loss VERY slowly since late 2018. Was with Sparkpeople until they shut us down, then moved here. Still WANT to think I can change without changing, causing the slow movement and sometimes close to as many backward steps as I have forward. It is important to me to do it this way, though, because I'm a quitter if I fail, and this way, I DONT FAIL. Although I've had literally countless attempts at one diet or another over my years, this is, by far, the longest I have ever stuck to a program. I liked to say about that first year, this is the first time, ever, that I am still doing in Dec what I vowed to do in Jan. I do recognize, that at some point, I will have to make more changes to maintain moving forward. I've come a really long way, but such a short way also, if that makes sense.2
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"The lovely thing about counting calories is being in control and having the power to make choices, instead of being controlled by food."
By the way, what you said above, really had an impact, is exactly how I want my brain to think--it doesn't always cooperate regarding, but we're working on that lol1 -
@Springlering62 so, you & BL both use Apple Watch, I think. Wondering if you use just what is available on it or if you've had to download outside apps to get good use out of it? Not very tech here, but finally impulse purchased the series 7. Trying to figure out what to do with it now, lol. I am having trouble seeing my rings even, wondering if it's because I thought the Mickey face was cute and put it on there. Any must do suggestions, or make it easier suggestions for the watch? I have been working my way to fitness and weight loss VERY slowly since late 2018. Was with Sparkpeople until they shut us down, then moved here. Still WANT to think I can change without changing, causing the slow movement and sometimes close to as many backward steps as I have forward. It is important to me to do it this way, though, because I'm a quitter if I fail, and this way, I DONT FAIL. Although I've had literally countless attempts at one diet or another over my years, this is, by far, the longest I have ever stuck to a program. I liked to say about that first year, this is the first time, ever, that I am still doing in Dec what I vowed to do in Jan. I do recognize, that at some point, I will have to make more changes to maintain moving forward. I've come a really long way, but such a short way also, if that makes sense.
BL has the same issue.
You have to sit down and play with the watch faces. There’s several that will give you choices of what you want emphasized on your watch face, so you can see them at a glance.
I reshuffled a lot til I found a setup I liked.
This is my watch face:
I’ve put the rings front and center, which also makes rings easier to drill down in to see how many calories needed to complete a ring, how long that walk was, or how much you burned during that class.
The little green guy being right there on your home scree. makes it easier to start/finish exercises. (Apple will recognize which workouts you do most and begin to organize them by frequency so you can find them immediately.)
Weather is always important because I walk nearly everywhere I go, including gym and studio. So for me, convenient to know if I need to grab umbrella and wellies on the way out the door.
Calendar items are large and visible because, well, I’m old. BL’s doctor says he can drop BP meds with 4-6 weeks if good readings, so I’ve set a daily reminder for him to check. When I sign up for classes via an app like MindBody, the app adds those classes to my calendar and also sends me a reminder an hour before.
If your calendar is on your Home Screen, you can also still down and flip through a week of calendar items.
The green logo on top left is for Spotify, so I can start and pause podcasts easily.
So calorie/move status, start/stop exercise, old grey headed possum reminders for me, but you can choose any setup you like with this type of watch face.
BL, bless his heart, will not sit down and do this. He relies on the default watch face and is always asking me stuff. And he has to push the stem and do acrobatics to get a workout to start. It. Drives. Me. Nuts. It’s not like he’s not technically savvy. This is a guy who turned our gutter system into a whole-house ham radio antenna, after getting his license in less than a month, by blowing through online classes. If it interest him, he’s all over it.
It’s kind of like me and the TV remote. It takes three to operate our tv. I’ve got one setup to turn on to HGTV with the minimum number of buttons. God help me if the lights go out and it needs a reset. I went for almost a year without watching any TV at all, rather than ask for help.
I also didn’t like the “cloud” of apps (clumsy fingers) so I changed to a list view:
I’ve got Apple Pay on my watch, too, which is great when it works, but I’m the rare righty who likes to wear their watch on the right hand, and I have to contort to get it up to the reader.
There’s even an MFP app for the watch, but it was worse than useless so I deleted it. (Great if you record water, though.)
The absolute best use for the watch, though, is “hey Siri, remind me….” And “hey Siri set a timer for X minutes”. Those functions alone are worth the price of admission, lol.
If you respond well to challenges, check out the Apple Challenges function. You can either choose solo challenges or team (4people) challenges either with a team of friends or randomly assigned. It’s all anonymous, so if you fall flat on your face, no problem. And if you do well, you can screenshot and hold close to your electronic heart, like I do.
Apple challenges can be too much for the OCD along us, though, because they don’t include any rest days. I’m giving them an extended break for the second time.
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Thanks so much! Sounds as if you use mostly watch apps. I switched to list first thing I did, I think. Yep, wish it would just recognize when you are working out. I was well into my walk today when I remembered I didn't start it---grrrr. It could be worse, like me, can't do remotes OR my fancy watch, hehheh. I'll play with the faces, see if I can find something I like. It would help to have those rings front and center.0
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Comment on bread: A recipe for a simple artisan loaf has been circulating amongst my friends. I had purposefully not baked it because I know how I struggle to eat "good" bread responsibly LOL. I finally gave in to peer pressure and baked one on Saturday. Guess what.....I know myself pretty well. I ate the first couple of slices while still warm from the oven with butter and honey. And my day continued, eating the loaf, and ending with a sharp cheddar and Branston pickle sandwich for dinner. I finished the last two slices for breakfast the following day. So yeh, I won't be making bread for myself again.
I've been at this for nine years. There have been some ups and downs but for the most part I've kept off between 75 and 90 pounds. But yummy, fresh baking is still a problem for me *sigh*
Also, I have a very basic Fitbit and I am in awe of your savvy around an Apple watch! I use mine as a watch and to count my steps. That's it. Its even stopped syncing with MFP, despite numerous emails between MFP tech people and myself. It syncs fine with another app that I use though, so is a bit of a mystery.6 -
@Sparkuvu My watch will sometimes recognize a walk and ask me if I meant to start an exercise.
@ridiculous59 i think there may be an issue developing with Apple and MFP. I’ve tried to tinker with settings, including negative calorie adjustments, over the past four or five months, and I don’t think things are being recorded properly now. Even though I’m actually eating a little less right now and have added daily workouts to an already full schedule, it has me in the red most days.
It’s also not recording all my steps, usually only 60-75% of them.
I deleted and reinstalled the app, and it worked well for about a week, but reverted back to misreporting.
I’ve got friends reporting issues with other devices.
I wonder if all this has got to do with all the other site issues lately, like photos not showing, or my profile pic suddenly being of a dude with a golf cart.
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Commenting on the previously discussed idea that some people are "moderation" kinds of people, and others are "avoid it completely or else overdo it" kinds of people. I used to think I needed to avoid certain foods or risk going waaaaay overboard. One of my biggest culprits was a whole fresh roasted chicken or turkey- I'd eat half (or more) of it while pulling it off the bone. The other big ones for me were ice cream and cookies. I could eat melty ice cream by the half gallon out the tub, and I have been known to eat three DoubleTree chocolate chip cookies in a row and at times an entire sleeve of Trefoil Girl Scout cookies.
Turns out I only do that when I let myself get too hungry. If I eat at regular intervals (every 2-3 hours for me) and keep up my protein/fiber, I am pretty good at sticking with proper portions. Now that I've been doing this consistently, I'm noticing that I'm usually satisfied with a small amount. In fact, I don't crave sweets like I used to. Instead I crave my Ninja Creami frozen yogurt because I actually feel good after eating it.
I know this is not the case for everyone. I just want to give some hope to those who are starting out who think they may have to avoid certain foods at all costs- that may change for you once your habits have changed.14 -
I haven't hooked my watch to MFP yet. Read quite a few 'problems' so just thought I'd continue hand entering after the watch keeps it for me. So far, have discovered I walk at a third faster pace then I was counting, (which is good for me, but not so great for my contributions to my team on the challenge I'm on, as minutes convert to miles there, haha)1
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Yesterday was a blowout after taco soup wasn’t depressurized by the time we got home from the gym. Made guacamole with an elderly avocado and after that it was game over.
But BL agreed, that was the most fun we’d had in ages, sitting in the sofa with a bowl of guacamole and bag of chips between us.
The soup, btw, was an epic fail. It was too spicy to eat. It included 48oz chicken breast, jar of cowboy caviar and big bag Mexican vegetables (and apparently waaaay too much chipotle), so couldn’t just throw it out!
Appealed to my MFP friends for suggestions to salvage, and they came through in a big way! We used all of them! We mashed the liquid out of the soup and will use it as quesadillas filling, with some cheese and sour cream, and diced cucumber if necessary, to take some of the heat out.
MFP Friends = Good!
Have you got some yet?6 -
Just in case anyone who follows this thread is eyeballing the Ninja creamey, I saw a post today that there's a couple stackable coupons you can use on the sale price of $199 at Kohls, that reduces it to $140--still pretty pricey, but apparently cheaper than black friday according to the post.2
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Just in case anyone who follows this thread is eyeballing the Ninja creamey, I saw a post today that there's a couple stackable coupons you can use on the sale price of $199 at Kohls, that reduces it to $140--still pretty pricey, but apparently cheaper than black friday according to the post.
Can’t rave about my Creami enough. BL has even started making the ice cream for us- as long as I prep the mix for him. Tonight we had honey & pickled ginger ice cream and it was delish. I’m trying peanut powder in our chocolate mix next.
You know how sometimes the wheels wobble? Due to technical issues with my food diary (now hopefully resolved), I been wobbling bad the past couple weeks.
And then BL sent me this little gem from about five years ago:
My wheels don’t feel so wobbly all of a sudden.
It’s really motivating and reassuring when people dig up a “before” picture and you can instantly both see how far you’ve come, and enjoy a welcome laugh at your own expense.
Oh, and BL shaved another pound and a half off the scale. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻19 -
That's you???!! Wow!4
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BL was dogging me out about my giant salad for lunch. I make it in a large mixing bowl, and it takes a long, satisfying time to eat.
‘Scuse me! Talk to the hand, mister.
How many calories in that lunch you have almost every single day? Two sad little slices of bread, pimiento cheese spread, and some chips?
300-350, depending on the type of chips.
My salad is 360, which puts it in the same range as your favorite lunch.
He’d rather have his quick sandwich and chips. I’d rather linger lovingly over my protein-filled salad. We both spend roughly the same amount of calories.
You should do what works for you, and ignore the chatter.11 -
NSV for BL!!!!
Finally convinced him to try on some new Levi’s.
He dropped four inches and went to a slim fit.
I accidentally picked up a pair that was 7” less and he could get them up but not buttoned! So close!
The weight’s not coming off as fast as he’d like, but the inches sure are!
Don’t despair if your scale isn’t budging. Change IS happening!8 -
springlering62 wrote: »BL was dogging me out about my giant salad for lunch. I make it in a large mixing bowl, and it takes a long, satisfying time to eat.
‘Scuse me! Talk to the hand, mister.
How many calories in that lunch you have almost every single day? Two sad little slices of bread, pimiento cheese spread, and some chips?
300-350, depending on the type of chips.
My salad is 360, which puts it in the same range as your favorite lunch.
He’d rather have his quick sandwich and chips. I’d rather linger lovingly over my protein-filled salad. We both spend roughly the same amount of calories.
You should do what works for you, and ignore the chatter.
Yasss!! I do love a large bowl of veggies with protein. How is the Walden Farms dressing? I am loving their chocolate, caramel, and strawberry syrups. I use them in my Creami recipes. I have been really hesitant to try any of their savory stuff.0 -
@EliseTK1
Their honey mustard, balsamic vinaigrettes, sundries tomato, and Asian dressings are terrific. The ranch is OK, makes a nice dip for vegetables.
Their mayo is tasteless but gives the “mouthfeel” of mayo which is fine. I find the other brands low cal mayo are pretty tasteless too. I used some in a chicken salad and it was nice and moist and didn’t class with the other seasonings.
Their cocktail sauce is one of the most noxious things I’ve ever tasted.
Love the chocolate and caramel, and husband really likes their pancake syrup. The strawberry got less good the more we had it and was relieved to see it used up.
We threw out the blueberry jam and zero cal peanut butter. 🤦🏻♀️
Walmart by far the cheapest, but poor selection. Vitacost website (Kroger subsidiary) is next cheapest, and has sales pretty frequently. They pack for nuclear holocaust. I always feel awful throwing that much out, but, hey, glass bottles and they do try to use recyclable packing.3 -
(Anyone out there make their own yogurt or skyr? I like the whey “byproduct” more than the actual skyr! It sure does make baked goods fluffy! I’m letting a loaf rise right now that is a thing of glorious beauty.)
We have guests for dinner who are trying to lose weight and want to talk to us. (Gulp!!! No pressure, right?)
Dinner is Swiss chicken (flattened chicken spread with Dijon and a slice of cheese, rolled in a teensy bit of margarine and dipped into panko, seasoning and Parmesan), green beans, and lightly seasoned orzo.
Dessert is homemade Neapolitan ice cream made from homemade skyr, so they can sample several flavors. Everyone gets 2/3 pint of ice cream.
Total calories, including dessert, comes to about 700 + whatever folks eat of the homemade bread. (186 calories per 75gr). We’re trying to walk the walk for these folks while still showing them that you can have tasty meals meant for sharing that don’t have to wipe you off the calorie map.
I’ve warned them about the food scale, in case it’s triggering. I hope it doesn’t come off as Soup-Nazi: “you only get 28gr of orzo and 8 ounces of chicken”, but that’s what you get when you ask to “see how you guys do it”.
Because….. that’s how we do it. 🤷🏻♀️😂12 -
Your dinner sounds scrumptious.
I can almost smell the homemade bread. Please open your window and wafer the OMG odor to the northeast for me.
I have yet to get a food scale, have just been using the package info and cups/spoons. Doing ok for now, but I am sure soon down the road, I will need to get more precise. Plus knowing an actual size of chicken breast weight might be eye opening.
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Does anyone else get excited when they see a new post is in this thread, lol
Yum, sounds really good. Bet they were very impressed. What is the whey subbing for?
I have a food scale, but mostly yet to use it. Bought it 2nd hand without directions, and find it a little difficult. I bet I would get plenty of eye opening.
So, the impulse fancy new watch tells me today that I had over16000 steps, 7.17 miles, that I burnt 2,155 calories, all apparently in my 43 min active it says I have. grrrrrrrrrr! Injured my back somehow a couple weeks back, have not been able to do much of anything. Reality: Today was the first day outside to walk, and it was a short loop in the woods followed by the loop around my two driveways, and once around the house. Inside I saw I didn't quite get 30 min so I walked around inside until I did. I'm pretty sure my little belt loop tracker did a better job.
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Hi …. Just got to say like everyone else how I love this post… is beautifully written and gently informative, both funny & touching and, as I only came it yesterday, I have binge read it already!
Got so much out of it with many “Ah ha” moments… “Wows” and teehees!
Love that you and your BL are working together!
We have a Bean too, an adopted working cocker, Jess, with severe attatchment issues, who will soon as rip another dog’s face off than say hello and gets under feet in the kitchen for any edible titbit!
I so wish my OH to do this with me, but am blessed that he is willing to support my restart and that he weighs any food for me that he prepares, without even so much as raised eyebrow 💕Maybe one day ….
I quit after CICO Xmas last year….. following feeling triggered and went on a blow out over the festive period that only ended following catching a nasty and scary bout of Covid despite being thrice vaccinated.
However, restarted - at the beginning of April and this time - armed with more knowledge and, yes, back in Cat 3 BMI, I am hoping to… no! Determind to…lose it and find health and maybe longevity…..
I have bookmarked this post as I think it may be a part of the armory to helping me on my road to sexy smaller pants.. and …blooming well …staying on that darned road!
As a Brit , this post has left me wondering and curious as to what a lot of the stuff is you all are talking about…..but already a Ninja is going to be on my Xmas list and I am going to work better with my Apple watch (as a non techi ..that darned thing will not beat me……I only use it for the time and my lowly, pitiful walking calories so far!)
The prospect of making my own Skylr is itself intriging…. What are the boxed cake mixes you are talking about? We have them over here for making cup cakes with kids, but not as fancy as you are talking about …..though I am an amateur cake baker, gave this up last year as was not helping with the calories!
Thank you…and I hope (very selfishly) that you keep this post going and going though no pressure intended!6 -
It’s really intimidating to invite someone over who is seeking weight loss advice.
I felt like I ought to throw open pantry, fridge, cupboards to show them there was no secret ingredient for weight loss, no pill or cleanse bottles, that my pantry included sugar, regular old flour, cocoa powder, chocolate bars, pasta, and my special stash of Oreo candy canes. But that was all in my head, not their very nice and polite ones.
They did seem quite puzzled and asked several times if this was how we ate all the time and still lost weight? I showed them my diary, where everything was all carefully weighed and recorded. Dinner itself (excluding the homemade bread) was about 600 calories. Dessert ended up being well under 150, because the four of us couldn’t finish off the three pints of homemade skyr ice cream.
I just don’t think they believed us, about how we ate and what the meal came in at, but I’m confident in my logging.
They were horrified I offered them canned whipped cream (15 calories a squirt) and a shaker of rainbow sprinkles (2 calories per gram) for their ice cream and told them “have a little fun!”
Y’all, 17 calories of unadulterated joy is not going to kill anyone or ruin their weight loss journey, and will go a long way into making something simple feel like a celebration.
It’s so sad that people think weight loss has to involve self punishment.
But I believed it, too, at first, so I can’t throw stones.
Folks have to learn for themselves.
It’s been eye-opening to realize that if you eat quality versus quantity, eventually (with the emphasis on eventually- it doesn’t happen overnight), eventually, quality is very satisfying and satiating.
As so many wise people here say over and over and over, you can eat anything you want, you just can’t eat as much of it as you (think you) want. And eventually, you’ll learn that a whole bowl of one thing is a lot tastier and filling than an eensy serving of that other thing, and eventually, you’ll simply lose the taste for that other.
Our friends left, singing the praises of a local quick weight loss center and their magical advice to eat several McDonalds chicken breasts a day to lose quickly (because “McDonalds boils their breasts”).
I think they were convinced that we are frauds, or over exaggerating our loss. I felt bad. They seemed disappointed.
If they’d stopped to look, those family photos on the shelf behind them would have told another story.
I’ll share my secrets but I’m not gonna turn myself into a sideshow by pointing those out.16 -
@Janatki @Sparkuvu
Y’all are very kind. Sometimes I worry I’m getting on folks’ nerves, or that I come off as too bragadocious, but I’ve been there, and know the utter suckiness of being the biggest person in the room, or having to make a wide path to get through one. I also had a lifetime of my mom hitting herself, and muttering “you stupid fat ugly *kitten*” to herself, and then I caught myself doing the same thing.
I sincerely want everyone to have the opportunity and support to turn things around, like I’ve been given with the support of other users here. This is an amazing one-of-a-kind community, probably because we all share the same experiences. If you’re not using the boards as a source of info, knowledge and support, you’re missing the third leg of the stool (diarying/exercise/community).
Scales- you can get a fantastic electronic food scale for under $10 on Amazon. If your thrifted one is too hard to use, treat yo’self. Learn how to use one bowl, and the tare function so you don’t have to use a bowl per ingredient, or tare and use the negative numbers so you don’t need a separate bowl to spoon something out.
Metric will rock your world. More control over what you eat, and, if nothing else, more consistent cooking results. My loaves of bread rise perfectly come out of the oven consistently weighing almost to the gram each and every time.
Ninja is a manufacturer of kitchen small appliances. I know some are available in the UK, because I ordered a Ninja Foodi off Amazon UK and had it shipped to my daughter in Europe.
They also make the Creami ice cream maker and an inexpensive nonstick (and non Teflon) skillet that is the greatest thing since sliced bread for browning meats and stir frying without oil. Because it’s so heavy, you have to preheat it extra long but then that sucker goes to town.
Cake mixes are simply pre-mixed cake….mixes. (Sorry for the circular logic there.)you dump the box in a bowl, add eggs and oil or water, mix and bake and voila! Cake!
But, what people don’t realize is, you don’t have to use eggs or oil. You can simply add plain kefir, liquid whey, or even Greek yogurt in lieu of milk and eggs and you still get an awesome cake or cupcakes. Or if you want the egg, substitute applesauce (pulverized apples) for the oil or butter for a really moist sticky cake.
I mix mine up with Bisquick, nd American biscuit (in the American context , a “biscuit” is similar to an unsweetened scone) mix, and add a ton of eggs, cottage cheese, whey and plain protein powder for a delicious protein pancake.
Red Velvet Pancakes with zero cal caramel syrup. Mmmmmm…….9 -
Thank you for this @springlering62… will meander down the baking aisle to find these… well th online aisle!
I love your posts as a serial restarter, or so it feels your & your BL’s experiences resonate and give me that Ah ha moments!
Convinced the OH re the Creami, I think🤔1 -
I also/still appreciate the shares here, look forward to updates and the discussions
regarding other people, I recognize my prior "diet rules & thinking" and hear it in the voices... things like I'm so sick of rabbit food, or you can't eat this or that..
the possibility of real change starts when we scrap the old rules and begin to explore what and how to prepare anything... that fits into the amount our body needs... aka eat what we burn or less, cico, actually a most flexible way to understand that.
and I agree, I do appreciate a large salad with shredded grilled chicken as more filling and enjoyable than other things I used to eat often but clocked in as a whole day or 2s food in a single meal... I just couldn't keep overeating and actually lose weight...
so I began to explore... well, what/how can I eat that will get me where I want to go... and it ain't paying someone to suggest i eat McD's boiled chicken... lol
otoh, I am interested in experimenting with skyr and a Ninja creami... on my wish list! and the adventures continue...5 -
I love all your posts too. They always seem to come at the right time, when I need a little encouragement or a good laugh. I don't spend a lot of time cooking, so it feels a little tough to do all the steps you list. I think I just need to take a day, play and see what happens. Sometimes what I think is going to take forever is actually easy once I have the right tools and know how to do it. Ice cream?? That's one I really would love to figure out.3
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Sorry your guests didn't seem to appreciate your efforts and story. I'm sure you put quite a lot of thought into what to prepare that would be tasty and appealing, but stay within limits and guide them in their new plans.
@coblujay I do not like or enjoy cooking and hate making messes that I then have to clean up, so you said just what I've been thinking.
@springlering62 did you always enjoy cooking or did you overcome that as well?
Every time I read about your ice cream, I feel like making a mad dash to the store for a Creami---but I really hate when I spend a lot on whatever gadget catches my attention, only for it to become a dust collector after a few times, or worse, sit in its unopened box, only an obligation at that point, with a sole purpose of making me feel guilty as heck.
I did buy a container of skyr today, to try, the container says "skyr, that's Icelandic for yogurt". You made that sound easy enough that I might actually follow through and make some, lol
Scale is the pretty universal Taylor. It's got tare, but I'm not quite getting what to do with that. Absolutely 0 reasons for me not to look up directions on internet, and the real (hurtful) truth is probably that I'm not quite ready TO GET OUT OF MY OWN WAY. Yup.5 -
@sparkuvu We are completely on the same track.
I bought an Instapot, because that was the thing. I used it about ten times and realized I can use my crockpot and get the same result. The Instapot hasn't been used for months. I thought about an air fryer, but I'd use it even less. I did look at the Creami, too, but have held off. My priority is exercising and trying to keep that in the schedule. While I do try to create meals in advance, it's not one of my favorite things to do. Luckily, I have a meal service which is local, so they are helpful in sending me healthy foods.2 -
It’s funny how different people utilize different small appliances in different ways, especially in regards to favoring one over another. I could not live without my instant pot (ok, a little melodramatic); I use it every other day for sure. My husband wanted a air fryer and we have yet to figure out how to use it because it just seems to take forever to cook anything. I do wipe it off occasionally, so it’s not collecting dust, lol!4
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