At Goal & Successfully Maintaining. So Why Am I Doing This All Over Again?
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Just ran across this discussion and it's so education for me, a newbie to MFP. Oh, I do admire you for helping your husband to lose weight and be healthier. Trying to inspire mine to eat healthier without becoming the food police and making minimal progress, but not giving up.6
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BL came home with 4 jars of pickles yesterday. “BOGO” he said to my arched brow.
Brow remain arched.
“Well, I decided that I’d start having dill pickles with my sandwich for lunch instead of chips. Fewer calories, but still crunchy and salty.”
The MFP brain recalibration has begun.36 -
Brief thread diversion since I have your attention, lol. I mentioned this in passing to a friend earlier this morning, and it’s worth sharing.
Do you (or an older relative) have an Apple Watch? Have you enabled fall detection? It automatically calls 911 if it detects a fall and detects no further movement, and you don’t then respond to a chime.
My neighbor passed out in the bathroom and bashed her head on the counter as she fell. Her husband was astonished to find EMS at the door. He didn’t even know she’d fallen.
Her watch saved her life.
If she’d had one of those “I’ve fallen and can’t get up” necklaces, it wouldn’t have helped. The necklaces require you to physically hit the button.
The Apple service is part of the watch features, so no monthly subscription fee required.
Wow! Technology!!!!
You can enable fall detection via the Apple Watch app on your phone, under the “emergency SOS” tab.33 -
I hope your neighbor is going to be okay! Yes, this is a great technology!springlering62 wrote: »Brief thread diversion since I have your attention, lol. I mentioned this in passing to a friend earlier this morning, and it’s worth sharing.
Do you (or an older relative) have an Apple Watch? Have you enabled fall detection? It automatically calls 911 if it detects a fall and detects no further movement, and you don’t then respond to a chime.
My neighbor passed out in the bathroom and bashed her head on the counter as she fell. Her husband was astonished to find EMS at the door. He didn’t even know she’d fallen.
Her watch saved her life.
If she’d had one of those “I’ve fallen and can’t get up” necklaces, it wouldn’t have helped. The necklaces require you to physically hit the button.
The Apple service is part of the watch features, so no monthly subscription fee required.
Wow! Technology!!!!
You can enable fall detection via the Apple Watch app on your phone, under the “emergency SOS” tab.
I bought this watch for my mom when she started getting dotty, and it was set to notify me and 911 if she fell, but for some reason every time she fell it didn’t go off - she seems to have decided to store her pen under her watch band or something? Plus she could never manage to read it as a watch because she would always touch something and mess up the settings somehow. Anyway it’s a great idea but not necessarily for people with early stage dementia, because they are endlessly creative in how to eff up technology.
So we ended up regifting it to my husband. It was very helpful to him in allowing him to manage his pvcs, by letting him see that he wasn’t actually dying, just having pvcs. Having the ability to do a one lead ekg in your own living room is pretty cool. If you know someone who tends to have episodes of atrial fib, this watch would be a great idea.4 -
@springlering62 I also started my dh a few years ago on MFP. He still logs but doesn't weigh everything like he should. My advice..it was really easy to log a recipe or help him log something because we made his name similar to mine & we had the same password, & both were open to friends, so I could jump back & forth between the 2 really easy. It helps a lot when finding something new & I am probably better at picking the right calories for it. And try to emphasize that he needs to eat exercise calories..that is something my dh wouldn't do & I think it has hurt him. (maybe I "helped" him a little too much, lol)4
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springlering62 wrote: »Brief thread diversion since I have your attention, lol. I mentioned this in passing to a friend earlier this morning, and it’s worth sharing.
Do you (or an older relative) have an Apple Watch? Have you enabled fall detection? It automatically calls 911 if it detects a fall and detects no further movement, and you don’t then respond to a chime.
My neighbor passed out in the bathroom and bashed her head on the counter as she fell. Her husband was astonished to find EMS at the door. He didn’t even know she’d fallen.
Her watch saved her life.
If she’d had one of those “I’ve fallen and can’t get up” necklaces, it wouldn’t have helped. The necklaces require you to physically hit the button.
The Apple service is part of the watch features, so no monthly subscription fee required.
Wow! Technology!!!!
You can enable fall detection via the Apple Watch app on your phone, under the “emergency SOS” tab.
hey im the friend in question you mentioned it to LOL
that actually MAY be a selling point for me. As you know, we live on a farm, and during the day I am here alone. Farm work can be dangerous work, and while I do try (mostly at hubbys insistence) to leave the more dangerous things to him, there are times when I HAVE to do something RIGHT THEN, or that simply an accident could happen (remember the chickens riding goats stampede? LOL). I can only hope that the Guardians would realize EMS was there to HELP their mama and not to kill me or their herd....12 -
RetiredAndLovingIt wrote: »….And try to emphasize that he needs to eat exercise calories..that is something my dh wouldn't do & I think it has hurt him. (maybe I "helped" him a little too much, lol)
Ha. you beat me to it. That post is coming soon.
I never in my wildest dreams expected to have to nag him TO eat.
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How many lbs (and inches if you know - looks like a lot!).0
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Just a note: SOME fallen and I can't get up services DO come with automatic fall detection and a call back from the service to which you have to respond in at least a partially coherent manner for the alarm to be cancelled .3
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How many lbs (and inches if you know - looks like a lot!).
He’s just started. He was dressed for the initial weigh in at the doctors office. I figure about four.
Haven’t measured. I regret to say I’ve been too lazy over the last three years to go down a flight of stairs and dig around for a tape measure.
Epic MFP Fail.
Well that and I’m generally nekkid when I need one and we live in a cluster home community and I don’t like curtains. 🤷🏻♀️5 -
Just a note: SOME fallen and I can't get up services DO come with automatic fall detection and a call back from the service to which you have to respond in at least a partially coherent manner for the alarm to be cancelled .
Good to know. I googled and the first couple that came up didn’t mention it. It appeared you had to press a button on the necklace or a shower unit to summon help.
After we got held up at work some 25 years ago, the alarm company gave us similar necklaces. They lasted about a week before we tired of them and stuck them in a drawer.
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callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »Brief thread diversion since I have your attention, lol. I mentioned this in passing to a friend earlier this morning, and it’s worth sharing.
Do you (or an older relative) have an Apple Watch? Have you enabled fall detection? It automatically calls 911 if it detects a fall and detects no further movement, and you don’t then respond to a chime.
My neighbor passed out in the bathroom and bashed her head on the counter as she fell. Her husband was astonished to find EMS at the door. He didn’t even know she’d fallen.
Her watch saved her life.
If she’d had one of those “I’ve fallen and can’t get up” necklaces, it wouldn’t have helped. The necklaces require you to physically hit the button.
The Apple service is part of the watch features, so no monthly subscription fee required.
Wow! Technology!!!!
You can enable fall detection via the Apple Watch app on your phone, under the “emergency SOS” tab.
hey im the friend in question you mentioned it to LOL
that actually MAY be a selling point for me. As you know, we live on a farm, and during the day I am here alone. Farm work can be dangerous work, and while I do try (mostly at hubbys insistence) to leave the more dangerous things to him, there are times when I HAVE to do something RIGHT THEN, or that simply an accident could happen (remember the chickens riding goats stampede? LOL). I can only hope that the Guardians would realize EMS was there to HELP their mama and not to kill me or their herd....
Oh my god i don't want to derail springle's thread but if there are pictures of this incident i NEED to see them
On topic: that's cool the apple watch has that feature, i do wish you and your neighbor could have learned about it less dramatically, though - i hope his wife will be okay.5 -
goal06082021 wrote: »callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »Brief thread diversion since I have your attention, lol. I mentioned this in passing to a friend earlier this morning, and it’s worth sharing.
Do you (or an older relative) have an Apple Watch? Have you enabled fall detection? It automatically calls 911 if it detects a fall and detects no further movement, and you don’t then respond to a chime.
My neighbor passed out in the bathroom and bashed her head on the counter as she fell. Her husband was astonished to find EMS at the door. He didn’t even know she’d fallen.
Her watch saved her life.
If she’d had one of those “I’ve fallen and can’t get up” necklaces, it wouldn’t have helped. The necklaces require you to physically hit the button.
The Apple service is part of the watch features, so no monthly subscription fee required.
Wow! Technology!!!!
You can enable fall detection via the Apple Watch app on your phone, under the “emergency SOS” tab.
hey im the friend in question you mentioned it to LOL
that actually MAY be a selling point for me. As you know, we live on a farm, and during the day I am here alone. Farm work can be dangerous work, and while I do try (mostly at hubbys insistence) to leave the more dangerous things to him, there are times when I HAVE to do something RIGHT THEN, or that simply an accident could happen (remember the chickens riding goats stampede? LOL). I can only hope that the Guardians would realize EMS was there to HELP their mama and not to kill me or their herd....
Oh my god i don't want to derail springle's thread but if there are pictures of this incident i NEED to see them
On topic: that's cool the apple watch has that feature, i do wish you and your neighbor could have learned about it less dramatically, though - i hope his wife will be okay.
ill send a friend request lol1 -
We got to the donut shop to find out someone had beat us to it and bought every. single. apple. fritter. Cleaned ‘em out.
I calorie budget for this fritter every Sunday, and BL did, too, this week (yay!!!!). He was bereft. He loves his weekly fritter.
Came home and made a batch of my protein-enhanced cake batter pancakes he’s been turning his nose up at. (Fudge/peanut butter today.)
He liked them, which surprised him. ( I told him they were good! He should know by now I ain’t got no time for yucky food!)
And bonus plus: when we found out they were out of fritters, we just left the shop without blowing calories on something we didn’t really want.
That left both of us calories in our day for a giant bakery chocolate chip cookie later in the day.
It’s always give/take with calories, but with a little planning, it’s possible to stay within budget and allow yourself treats, too.
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How do you make cake batter pancakes? They sound yummy!0
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RetiredAndLovingIt wrote: »How do you make cake batter pancakes? They sound yummy!
Any flavor cake mix works.
1/3 package boxed cake mix
120gr Bisquick HeartSmart Baking Mix
1tsp baking powder (I like to add a smidge more)
1 egg
92 gr liquid egg whites
1.5 to 1.75 (240-about 400 or so gr) cups Silk Plain Cashew milk
Dash of vanilla
Optional:
1 serving unflavored whey protein powder.
Mix well- you don’t want lumps like regular pancake batter. The batter may seem thin but will thicken up, especially Red Velvet for some reason.
Scoop into dry Teflon pan and cook like normal. These will cook much faster than regular pancakes
I prefer a thinner batter because it makes more pancakes and I’m all about volume, hence the range of cashew milk to add. Thinner batter has a crepe texture.
.33 recipe is about 394 calories. .25 is about 275.
They reheat really well in the microwave for several days.
Funfetti: no changes needed
Lemon: add a few drops lemon extract or a squirt of lemon juice- these are great with a little bit of Trader Joe’s Lemon Curd brushed on
Red Velvet: I add about 7gr Trader Joe’s cacao powder, and an ounce of any flavor of Jordan’s zero calorie chocolate type Skinny Syrup. (If you want to sample the brand before committing, TJ Maxx and Marshall’s usually have random flavors for $3.99 a bottle).
Chocolate: 7 gr cacao, any chocolate Jordan’s syrup. (The chocolate coconut was very good.)
Get creative! I added Jordan’s chocolate peanut butter this time and threw in a serving of PBP.
Walden Farms makes a really good zero calorie chocolate and zero cal caramel syrup. I haven’t tried their pancake syrup yet but I hear it’s good. We’re finishing up the bottle of Kroger before I crack open a WF.
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A wee bit of the “not fair” reared it’s head this weekend. I was trying to enjoy some graham crackers but the package was rustling.
“Whatcha got there?”
He’s doing really well but I think I may need to scoot some of my calories to times BL is at the gym or one of his volunteer gigs. Eating in front of him has just become difficult.
Ironic, since he lost a bunch of weight 25 years ago when he found out he was diabetic. And old piggish unsupportive me had no qualms about filling the pantry with sweets and chowing down in front of him. If I could go back in time and slap myself upside the head for being such a beyotch (and follow the example he had set), I would.
Anyone out there having issues with unsupportive family?11 -
@springerling62 how excellent is that? Your BL actually coming to terms with needing a change and actually joining you in it. My own DH (dear husband) is supportive, but unhelpful. He brings home things like this:
Rustic Crust Big Slice pizza crust.
He thought the nutrition info was for the whole 11 oz. piece of dough for 180 calories. Not. The "serving size" is 1/4 of the slice. He had made us EACH a pizza slice using one of these for each of us. Layered on pizza sauce, cheese, and sausage. He was so proud of himself! Until I showed him the back of the package.
Picture a heartbroken husband bemoaning that now I would have to make my own supper. Then picture him later (after eating BOTH "slices") wondering why he can't lose weight when he hardly eats anything all day!
Now, I peg those "slices" at a minimum of 1000 calories EACH after he finished loading on the cheese and sausage. Geez man!
Oh well, hoping someday he will see the light.
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@springerling62 how excellent is that? Your BL actually coming to terms with needing a change and actually joining you in it. My own DH (dear husband) is supportive, but unhelpful. He brings home things like this:
Rustic Crust Big Slice pizza crust. He thought the nutrition info was for the whole 11 oz. piece of dough for 180 calories. Not. The "serving size" is 1/4 of the slice. He had made us EACH a pizza slice using one of these for each of us. Layered on pizza sauce, cheese, and sausage. He was so proud of himself! Until I showed him the back of the package.
Picture a heartbroken husband bemoaning that now I would have to make my own supper. Then picture him later (after eating BOTH "slices") wondering why he can't lose weight when he hardly eats anything all day!
Now, I peg those "slices" at a minimum of 1000 calories EACH after he finished loading on the cheese and sausage. Geez man!
Oh well, hoping someday he will see the light.
Lee, for my husband it was condiments. I figured one time he had put on several hundred calories of salad dressing and he wanted to argue with me. And Olivio. He was going through a tub every week or two.
Imagine my surprise when he weighed his “I Can’t Beleive Its Not Butter Lite” last night before buttering his baked potato, and only used ten grams. “That’s plenty,” he announced. And when I offered him some A1 sauce (15cal per serving) he turned it down saying,”Nah. This is good steak without anything on it.”
Dude, who are you?!
I can’t wait to turn him loose making grilled cheese again. That was his dinner contribution once in a while. I used to close my eyes and pretend not to see how much butter or margarine he’d slathered on.
Saturday night we had pizzas from the grocery store. 440/ serving. After dinner, he sidled up to me on the sofa, put his arm around my shoulder, and said,”next time let’s make our own pizzas. The ones you make on that lavash stuff taste a lot better than that thing and actually have stuff I can taste on them.”
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And in the interest of fairness and disclosure, I am the woman who thought a three mile walk after dinner would not only erase the whole package of Double Stuff I’d eaten, but would also give room for a quarter of a key lime pie or whatever else I had in my Treasury of Sweets.21
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@springerling62 Oh my! I am laughing because my DH also thinks condiments don't count. It is not unusual to see him slather a good 1/2 cup of sour cream on a potato, and he "ices" his bread with butter and jam. No skim layer, I mean a VISIBLE layer of butter topped with jam. Grilled cheese. . . is only good with 2-3 slices of good ole American cheese, the bread isn't visible under the butter. Sigh. Hugs my dear, and congrats again on getting your man on board!2
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Thanks for the pancake recipes. Think we will have to try them!1
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Finding yourself nibbly during the day? Try experimenting with your macros (staying within your calorie goal, of course).
You may find that increasing your carbs, protein or fat intake a little higher keeps you fuller, for longer, and eliminates grazing. Some people find that increasing their fiber intake has a similar result.
BL is experimenting with his macros.
For him, so far, higher carbs seems to be more satiating. He’s happy with heartier breads, waffles, sandwiches and so on. They keep him full.
BL is diabetic, so higher carb might seem contraindicated, but he’s eating so carefully and minding his goals now, adding in far more vegetables, (and far fewer Cheez-It’s!) that overall he’s doing way better than before, and that still represents a vast improvement.
I’d be gnawing my arm off eating carb heavy. For me, high protein is the ticket. I eat a lot of lean chicken breast, yogurt, cottage cheese, and beef jerky.
If you need fats for satiation, any nut butter, avocado, cheeses, some cuts of meat, dark chocolate, olive oil, etc will bump your fat macro.
Everyone is different.
You have to find which way of eating works best for you.16 -
springlering62 wrote: »Finding yourself nibbly during the day? Try experimenting with your macros (staying within your calorie goal, of course).
You may find that increasing your carbs, protein or fat intake a little higher keeps you fuller, for longer, and eliminates grazing. Some people find that increasing their fiber intake has a similar result.
BL is experimenting with his macros.
For him, so far, higher carbs seems to be more satiating. He’s happy with heartier breads, waffles, sandwiches and so on. They keep him full.
BL is diabetic, so higher carb might seem contraindicated, but he’s eating so carefully and minding his goals now, adding in far more vegetables, (and far fewer Cheez-It’s!) that overall he’s doing way better than before, and that still represents a vast improvement.
I’d be gnawing my arm off eating carb heavy. For me, high protein is the ticket. I eat a lot of lean chicken breast, yogurt, cottage cheese, and beef jerky.
If you need fats for satiation, any nut butter, avocado, cheeses, some cuts of meat, dark chocolate, olive oil, etc will bump your fat macro.
Everyone is different.
You have to find which way of eating works best for you.
As a type 2 I’m very interested in this aspect of your husband’s experience. Would you feel comfortable sharing his blood work numbers and how they change as he loses weight and changes his lifestyle?2 -
BL couldn’t get home for lunch. Was setting American flags out all over town with another club member. (Our town does a large 9/11 commemoration every fifth year and this is 20th anniversary.)
They went to Cookout for lunch after they set a bunch of flags out around it.
He was very proud of himself.
He chose the onion rings for 260 versus the fries for 700, and the Big Double burger for 330, no cheese or mayo. Lettuce and a tomato slice are negligible.
With a Diet Coke, my happy camper had a nice fast food meal for under 600 calories.11 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »springlering62 wrote: »But he’s already reached the “thinking about it” stage, and that’s awesome.
that usually comes right before the 'pre logging' stage.
but you and i know that
I bet he comes around to it
LOL
Or perhaps not I've been here for two years, I still don't do it!
Year 6. Pretty much never pre-log, didn't even when losing, other than a rare what-if on the last meal of a day if I know I've painted myself into a tight corner earlier in the day. I know other people swear by pre-logging as an essential success factor. I don't agree. I think it's an optional style thingie that works best for many, not for all. I don't think I've *ever* prelogged a whole day. 🤷♀️
I vote that if Spring's husband was smart enough to marry her; and now has been smart enough to realize that calorie counting can be a useful thing for him, too; then he's smart enough to figure out whether he wants/need to prelog, vs. it would annoy him as much as it would annoy me.
Call me optimistic (for once). 😉
This thread is better than a TV drama.
I agree with this. My (now) husband met me after I had lost a significant amount of weight, largely assisted by MFP. After some gentle ribbing about my calorie tracking, he realised that it made perfect sense once he understood how it worked and went on to lose 20kg in a reasonable amount of time and has maintained since with a decent activity level.
I love pre-logging. It works really well for me, though I am very flexible with unexpected events or changes. My husband can not fathom pre-logging and never will! That's ok - we all find our own groove
@springlering62 I love that your husband came around to looking after his health after watching your journey, not because you asked him to, but because of your example. I relate.
What a great team you are x9 -
Down some more at weigh-in this morning!
He’s not pre-logging, but knowing that I am, he’s started asking me “how many calories for dinner?” so he can mentally plan snacks.
He got 10,000+ steps setting out flags yesterday. He was very happy.13 -
PS: I really appreciate the ladies chiming in here about experiences with their own spouses.
If anyone knows any easier way to share meals, I’d appreciate it. It was grueling entering mac and cheese, pecan chicken, red beans and rice, etc. LOTS of ingredients in those recipes.2 -
I've heard that you can copy meals out of your friend's diaries into your own, but I've never tried to do it so I don't know if that's true.3
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goal06082021 wrote: »I've heard that you can copy meals out of your friend's diaries into your own, but I've never tried to do it so I don't know if that's true.
Yes, you can set a meal to be “public” “share with friends” or “private”. Do the database a favor and keep it to your friends or yourself.
There isn’t a way to share recipes though. It’s something requested rather frequently on the suggestions board it seems.
You are able to go back and edit meals, though. And you can always have extra entries in a meal that you delete. I’ll use a meal for frequent items that fall out of my history list sometimes; I have one called “use these chicken entries” that has all the USDA chicken entries I use, raw and roasted, so I don’t have to waste time searching. I’ll enter that meal if I need to, and delete the ones I don’t need, if something has fallen out of my recent history.
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