Sugar addiction....

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  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    People are addicted to sex, why cant they be addicted to sugar? Or is sex addiction not real, and is an excuse for celebrities to commit infidelity?

    Brains love things that stimulates them

    The only people who purport to believe in sex addiction are the counselors who get paid, and the divorce lawyers who are protecting a client's assets.
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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    You can't lose weight because you ate or didn't eat a certain type of food... either your activity increased or your food decreased. There is no way around that one. Sorry, it wasn't the sugar's fault.

    Eating a lot of sugar raises insulin levels in the blood, which deposits energy from foods into fat cells. Fructose causes resistance to leptin (regulates energy intake/expenditure) and leads to increased food intake and decreased fat burning. The type of food you eat does matter – blindly aggregating calories without regard to the composition of the calories is not exactly a reasonable nutritional regiment!

    Protein is also highly insulinogenic, herp derp

    Protein also increases glucagon, which counterbalances insulin.

    On blood glucose....
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    Convenience

    I assure you, if you were to put a plate of candy bars in front of me next to a plate of strawberries, it would not be convenience driving me to eat the candy bars.

    It is simply that the candy bars are much more pleasurable to eat.

    Maybe you're just weird.

    I love sweets, I love chocolate, I love candy bars! I eat cookies/ice cream damn near daily...and even I would pick the strawberries. A nice juicy ripe strawberry and the way it just bursts into your mouth when you sink your teeth in? That mouth feel?

    Snickers ain't got nothing on that.
  • Convenience

    I assure you, if you were to put a plate of candy bars in front of me next to a plate of strawberries, it would not be convenience driving me to eat the candy bars.

    It is simply that the candy bars are much more pleasurable to eat.

    Maybe you're just weird.

    I love sweets, I love chocolate, I love candy bars! I eat cookies/ice cream damn near daily...and even I would pick the strawberries. A nice juicy ripe strawberry and the way it just bursts into your mouth when you sink your teeth in? That mouth feel?

    Snickers ain't got nothing on that.

    I'd actually choose the strawberries too.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    I find chicken breast pleasurable to eat as well. That's why I eat 2 lbs a day.

    Me too. But it doesn't hold a candle to, say, ice cream. The OP is talking about a behavioral addiction to sweets. Yes, you can make due with less pleasurable foods, and as an addict, that is what you have to resign yourself to.
    What I said, exactly was deliciousness. Not Pleasurable. I think Oreo's are more delicious than dates.

    Yes, but deliciousness is pleasure from food.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Delicious

    de·li·cious (d-lshs)
    adj.
    1. Highly pleasing or agreeable to the senses, especially of taste or smell.
    2. Very pleasant; delightful: a delicious revenge.

    Our brains have reward circuitry for good-tasting food. You are calling this "deliciousness", but what is really happening is that our brains are receiving pleasure from the stimuli. And this stimulus can be addicting.

    As the American Society of Addiction Medicine says, "Food and sexual behaviors and gambling behaviors can be associated with the "pathological pursuit of rewards" described in this new definition of addiction."

    I eat a pint of ice cream a night as well. I was also a smoker of 2 packs a day for 17 years, quit. Mental fortitude is all that's needed.
  • greentart
    greentart Posts: 411 Member
    People are addicted to sex, why cant they be addicted to sugar? Or is sex addiction not real, and is an excuse for celebrities to commit infidelity?

    Brains love things that stimulates them

    The only people who purport to believe in sex addiction are the counselors who get paid, and the divorce lawyers who are protecting a client's assets.

    I love when people assume to know how every single person's brain functions. People can become addicted to anything. Addiction is nothing more than the repetition of a behavior despite adverse consequences.
  • Mgregory723
    Mgregory723 Posts: 529 Member
    When did you finally realize you had a problem?

    When it started affecting your work, when you sold your TV for a sugar cube, or when you gave a bj for a sugar packet?


    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Has to be the single most funniest thing I have read all day! Thank you! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    Convenience

    I assure you, if you were to put a plate of candy bars in front of me next to a plate of strawberries, it would not be convenience driving me to eat the candy bars.

    It is simply that the candy bars are much more pleasurable to eat.

    Maybe you're just weird.

    I love sweets, I love chocolate, I love candy bars! I eat cookies/ice cream damn near daily...and even I would pick the strawberries. A nice juicy ripe strawberry and the way it just bursts into your mouth when you sink your teeth in? That mouth feel?

    Snickers ain't got nothing on that.

    I'd actually choose the strawberries too.

    Well strawberries are delicious.

    Also if you'd lick the berries you probably aren't addicted to sugar or processed sweets.

    I meant pick...but I'm gonna leave it as lick.
  • Convenience

    I assure you, if you were to put a plate of candy bars in front of me next to a plate of strawberries, it would not be convenience driving me to eat the candy bars.

    It is simply that the candy bars are much more pleasurable to eat.

    Maybe you're just weird.

    I love sweets, I love chocolate, I love candy bars! I eat cookies/ice cream damn near daily...and even I would pick the strawberries. A nice juicy ripe strawberry and the way it just bursts into your mouth when you sink your teeth in? That mouth feel?

    Snickers ain't got nothing on that.

    I'd actually choose the strawberries too.

    Well strawberries are delicious.

    Also if you'd lick the berries you probably aren't addicted to sugar or processed sweets.

    I meant pick...but I'm gonna leave it as lick.

    LOL.!! I'd pick AND lick the strawberries!!
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    People are addicted to sex, why cant they be addicted to sugar? Or is sex addiction not real, and is an excuse for celebrities to commit infidelity?

    Brains love things that stimulates them

    The only people who purport to believe in sex addiction are the counselors who get paid, and the divorce lawyers who are protecting a client's assets.

    I love when people assume to know how every single person's brain functions. People can become addicted to anything. Addiction is nothing more than the repetition of a behavior despite adverse consequences.

    How exactly does that definition have anything more to do with addiction than stupid behavior in general?

    Never mind, no point in engaging in this conversation.

    If you want to make excuses, it only affects you. No one else needs to believe those excuses for them to be effective in holding you back though.
  • JoyeII
    JoyeII Posts: 240 Member
    I'm enjoying being the exception to the rule. ;)
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  • JoyeII
    JoyeII Posts: 240 Member
    Snowflake in the sense that I have a legitimate medical reason for greatly reducing to the point of almost eliminating my sugar intake, at least until I'm normal again.
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    Snowflake in the sense that I have a legitimate medical reason for greatly reducing to the point of almost eliminating my sugar intake, at least until I'm normal again.

    Normally, I like being a standout, too. But this I would not enjoy.
  • kaykaylyn
    kaykaylyn Posts: 84 Member
    When did you finally realize you had a problem?

    When it started affecting your work, when you sold your TV for a sugar cube, or when you gave a bj for a sugar packet?

    I'm not proud of some of the things I've done for a sugar cube.

    Once I found myself crawling around a horse stall trying to find one that had been left behind. That's when I traded my sugar addiction for alcoholism because it was more dignified.
    I don't like it when folks are too mean or too sarcasti,c, these are neither. This ish is FUNNY!!!!!
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    Snowflake in the sense that I have a legitimate medical reason for greatly reducing to the point of almost eliminating my sugar intake, at least until I'm normal again.

    I'm sorry for your luck. You may need to avoid sugar in order to control a medical condition but you certainly didn't get fat because of it. You got fat because you ate too much food. period. Some people (like yourself) have to avoid sugar and watch their carbs for medical reasons but even those people can't blame the sugar for their weight gain or loss.
  • smitchum
    smitchum Posts: 13 Member
    lmao..... my favorite reply
  • greentart
    greentart Posts: 411 Member
    People are addicted to sex, why cant they be addicted to sugar? Or is sex addiction not real, and is an excuse for celebrities to commit infidelity?

    Brains love things that stimulates them

    The only people who purport to believe in sex addiction are the counselors who get paid, and the divorce lawyers who are protecting a client's assets.

    I love when people assume to know how every single person's brain functions. People can become addicted to anything. Addiction is nothing more than the repetition of a behavior despite adverse consequences.

    How exactly does that definition have anything more to do with addiction than stupid behavior in general?

    Never mind, no point in engaging in this conversation.

    If you want to make excuses, it only affects you. No one else needs to believe those excuses for them to be effective in holding you back though.

    Minus the fact that you did engage in the conversation. Oh, oops.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but in general, the fit people that have selfies with toned muscles and washboard abs think that sugar isn't addictive, while the heavier ones seem to think it is.
    And many of those people with the toned muscles and washboard abs did not always have toned muscles and washboard abs.

    Some of them were once 300 pounds.

    And not one of those 300lb'ers got fat from eating too much fruit, nor lost weight from cutting fruit from their diets.
    And I would bet 90% of them didn't cut any other sugar source, either.

    Forgive the anecdote, but I lost 10 lbs over the course of 5-6 weeks mostly by cutting the refined sugar from my diet and replacing it with less sugary and natural sugar alternatives. I got rid of sugary yogurts, protein bars, sports & energy drinks, and fruit juices with added sugar. That amounted to going from over 100gs a day to under 50gs of refined sugar. And that was a loss of 10 "hard" lbs, as I dropped from about 180-170 on a 6 ft frame

    dude, you ate less and lost weight..congratulations you have unlocked the ancient mayan secret to weight loss...
  • maillemaker
    maillemaker Posts: 1,253 Member
    Maybe some people who got themselves in shape did so by not making excuses like I can't moderate my sugar intake?

    Or maybe they admitted they had a behavioral addiction problem and finally did learn to moderate their sugar intake?
  • maillemaker
    maillemaker Posts: 1,253 Member
    I used to be 220 and it was not sugars fault; now, I am 173 and still not sugars fault....my sugar intake know is probably about the same as it was back then..

    Yup, you can lose weight like the professor who ate nothing but Twinkies and other snack cakes.

    You just get to eat a lot less since those foods are so calorie-dense. On top of that you will have to exercise extreme willpower to limit how many of them you eat, and you'll get to deal with the swings in blood sugar that can lead to hunger.

    But yes, you can lose weight eating lots of sugary junk food.
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    Maybe some people who got themselves in shape did so by not making excuses like I can't moderate my sugar intake?

    Or maybe they admitted they had a behavioral addiction problem and finally did learn to moderate their sugar intake?

    If you can learn to moderate it, wouldn't that mean that every last overweight person who lost weight was previously "addicted"? This argument doesn't make sense.
  • maillemaker
    maillemaker Posts: 1,253 Member
    The only people who purport to believe in sex addiction are the counselors who get paid, and the divorce lawyers who are protecting a client's assets.

    This is false information. See the American Society of Addiction Medicine, and the DSM-V.
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    The only people who purport to believe in sex addiction are the counselors who get paid, and the divorce lawyers who are protecting a client's assets.

    This is false information. See the American Society of Addiction Medicine, and the DSM-V.

    Oh, FFS.

    The thread is on sugar addiction, not sex addiction. The above was meant in jest.

    I poked the other person, but come on. Back to the subject at hand.
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    The only people who purport to believe in sex addiction are the counselors who get paid, and the divorce lawyers who are protecting a client's assets.

    This is false information. See the American Society of Addiction Medicine, and the DSM-V.

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  • JoyeII
    JoyeII Posts: 240 Member
    Snowflake in the sense that I have a legitimate medical reason for greatly reducing to the point of almost eliminating my sugar intake, at least until I'm normal again.

    I'm sorry for your luck. You may need to avoid sugar in order to control a medical condition but you certainly didn't get fat because of it. You got fat because you ate too much food. period. Some people (like yourself) have to avoid sugar and watch their carbs for medical reasons but even those people can't blame the sugar for their weight gain or loss.

    Wow! Hostile much?
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    Snowflake in the sense that I have a legitimate medical reason for greatly reducing to the point of almost eliminating my sugar intake, at least until I'm normal again.

    I'm sorry for your luck. You may need to avoid sugar in order to control a medical condition but you certainly didn't get fat because of it. You got fat because you ate too much food. period. Some people (like yourself) have to avoid sugar and watch their carbs for medical reasons but even those people can't blame the sugar for their weight gain or loss.

    Wow! Hostile much?

    That's hostile? :flowerforyou:
  • JoyeII
    JoyeII Posts: 240 Member
    I don't enjoy the condition. I enjoy the fact that the "sugar isn't evil" argument doesn't apply to me.
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    Snowflake in the sense that I have a legitimate medical reason for greatly reducing to the point of almost eliminating my sugar intake, at least until I'm normal again.

    I'm sorry for your luck. You may need to avoid sugar in order to control a medical condition but you certainly didn't get fat because of it. You got fat because you ate too much food. period. Some people (like yourself) have to avoid sugar and watch their carbs for medical reasons but even those people can't blame the sugar for their weight gain or loss.

    Wow! Hostile much?

    It's cute that you think that's hostile lol Do you have a sensitivity to reality as well as sugar?