October 2022 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    Hello all! I have not disappeared. We had company for a few days and then we decided to go on a spur of the moment road trip north to see the fall foliage. So yesterday was a long driving day. Today we are going to Lassen Volcanic National Park and tomorrow we will head up to Oregon. Where we are staying atm is a bit industrial with no where to really walk and definitely can't run. Hopefully will get in some short hikes at the National Park though. Once we are in Oregon it will be better though.

    I am way, way behind on all the goings on but will read through and like or hug along the way. I really want to read @eleanorhawkins race report and catch up on how everyone is doing!
  • polskagirl01
    polskagirl01 Posts: 2,024 Member
    Great picture @eleanorhawkins ! I like the tangled feet 😁

    Wish me luck tomorrow as I see a neurologist. Reviews say this doc is a good listener and explains things well. I have several tests I want to request and am hoping to be heard and believed.
  • Teresa502
    Teresa502 Posts: 1,861 Member
    I hope the neurologist gives you some helpful answers @polskagirl01.

    Great picture @eleanorhawkins!

    Enjoy your trip @shanaber!
  • martaindale
    martaindale Posts: 2,317 Member
    Teresa502 wrote: »
    Great job on those 15-milers @martaindale and @Scott6255. Curious about your fueling plans. As a general rule, do most people fuel every 5 miles? I know it can be more complicated than that factoring in liquid hydration and calories per hour.

    I fuel more than Scott does. One, he is faster than I am so it takes me longer to run the same distance. Two, I get hypoglycemic so I don’t play around with underfueling. This year I have been tweaking little things and am getting a routine figured out. About 1.5 hrs before a long run I eat a superhero muffin (from the rise and run cookbook) and have a cup of coffee. Right before the run I eat a honey stinger waffle and wash it down with water. I take a gel of one kind or another every 3.5-4 miles (35-45 mins). Currently I am liking a combo of Muir gels, which are real food based and Gu. I don’t do caffeine gels back to back. Afterwards, I have a BCAA drink mix from Skratch.
    I have calculated I will need 7 gels of one kind or another to get through a marathon so I am working on getting my gut used to fueling pretty frequently. If you do liquid nutrition like sports drinks, obviously it would be less. But I typically just drink water during a run. On race day I might mix in a cup of Gatorade from time to time if it’s really hot, but otherwise just water.
  • martaindale
    martaindale Posts: 2,317 Member
    @AlphaHowls You and your racing buddies are quick! Great job on your race.

    @eleanorhawkins You are absolutely a BEAST! That course sounds so tough. The goodie back is really good. Much better than I’ve ever seen here.
  • Scott6255
    Scott6255 Posts: 2,556 Member
    @Teresa502 my marathon fueling plan is pretty darn close to @martaindale actually. It's just that I use half a gel every 4 miles instead of a whole one, mainly due to GI issues. But as it gets closer to race day, I will try and do a little more because last marathon I hit the wall at 20 miles, and want to rule out under fueling as one of the possible causes.
  • eleanorhawkins
    eleanorhawkins Posts: 1,659 Member
    Jumping in on the fuelling topic... I also do a gel every 45 minutes or so. Coach told me every 30, but as a small, slow female that turned out to be too much. I am going to play around now with trying to train my stomach to tolerate more food as per an ultrarunner/coach I've started paying attention to. Will report on that when I do.
    The major difference for me though has been making sure I eat enough all the time, not just in races. Once I convinced myself that I need to give my body enough fuel to train and run I stopped hitting walls or feeling like I couldn't finish runs. Sure, that approach has made me gain a little weight training for my last race, but I finished strong energy-wise, it was my legs that wanted to quit.
    I've also found caffeine to be helpful, but I have to make sure I have had none for a week beforehand for it to work. So a week before a race I switch to decaf coffee, then on race morning I have a nice strong coffee when I wake up. Then I carry a couple of SiS cola-flavoured hydro/electrolyte tabs with caffeine and once I've passed the halfway mark I start putting one in my water bottle when I refill it. Again, you have to find what works through trial and error but that's what works for me.
  • Teresa502
    Teresa502 Posts: 1,861 Member
    This morning I did Dr. Jordan Metzel's Iron Strength for runners workout. He says if you do this workout once or twice a week it will make you a better runner. It included a lot of plyometrics (jump squats, burpees, jumping lunges), core (planks, weighted sit-ups, leg drops) and upper body (overhead presses, bicep curls, push-ups). I went for a walk outside afterwards. It was still dark but the horizon was beginning to lighten up and the temp was a nice 44F.

    Thanks for the fueling information @martindale @Scott6255 and @eleanorhawkins. I haven't been doing much in the way of long runs lately but it's good information to have for when I get back to them. @alphahowls - do you fuel during your morning 15-milers?
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  • martaindale
    martaindale Posts: 2,317 Member
    October total: 133.6/180 miles

    10/1: 10 miles
    10/2: 6.1 miles
    10/3: 6.2 miles
    10/4: 5.1 miles
    10/5: 7 miles
    10/7: 6.6 miles
    10/10: 5.9 miles
    10/11: 3 miles
    10/12: 7 miles
    10/13: 6 miles
    10/14: 10 miles
    10/16: 6.5 miles
    10/17: 6.1 miles
    10/19: 10 miles
    10/20: 6 miles
    10/21: 5 miles
    10/22: 15 miles
    10/24: 6.6 miles
    10/25: 5.5 miles

    Not so speedy speed work today. While my legs don’t hurt they are tired and this workout was hard. My schedule called for 4 x 1200m at 6:36 target (8:48 pace) w/ 400m recovery. My splits were: 6:41, 7:01, 7:05, 6:56. Oddly enough, the first one felt super slow and ended up being the closest of the 4. I am struggling with speed work on this high mileage plan but my HR seems to be benefiting from it and I’m sure it will help my fitness.
  • martaindale
    martaindale Posts: 2,317 Member
    eleanorhawkins wrote: »
    @martaindale about the caffeine. I recognise I am not a normal person where caffeine is concerned. I used to need 3 mugs of coffee to wake up, then a constant drip of diet pepsi all day long to keep going. It was hard, but I ditched the Pepsi completely, and before races I try to switch over to decaf gradually rather than going cold turkey. It isn't great fun, but for me it's worth it because otherwise I just don't get the extra boost when I need it.

    I have heard the same advice on podcasts where they were talking about fueling. Backing off the caffeine before race day to be able to feel the effect. I guess I’ll never know what the caffeine kick feels like. I do get a pick up from the sugar.
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