WOMEN AGES 50+ FOR DECEMBER 2022

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  • barbiecat
    barbiecat Posts: 17,190 Member
    :) My father's advice, "The way to save money is to not spend it".
  • grandmallie
    grandmallie Posts: 10,084 Member
    Evening ladies
    Yes I am in debt,and i will work to get myself out of it also..
    Alfie and I just watching TV tonight.
    Will have to think of a word for 2023
  • ginnytez
    ginnytez Posts: 1,399 Member
    Lanette-regarding sugar-oh my yes. If that isn't the cause of the inflammation I fear I have some autoimmune disorder.

    Lisa-thanks for pointing out the design element. I knew it was appealing to me but had no idea how to classify. Glad you get to see family again briefly.

    Heather-I think the card looks nice-especially for a first attempt. I have seen many cards sold in stores that aren't as appealing.

    Beth-so glad to hear you can make it to your mom. Tattoos are definitely an individual decision. It's nice we are all able to make personal choices.

    Rebecca-it occurred to me when reflecting upon your kidney issue (or lack thereof), we also pick up a wealth of information on health issues here. I learn something nearly every time I read.

    While I do write checks for a couple of things (trash service has no on-line pay, church has automatic withdrawal for a set amount but I have always preferred to contribute weekly so I can adjust amount (usually upward) if needed. I do use one credit card to pay for groceries etc., and pay it off twice a month (when I get paid).

    Got haircut today and went for nice walk. Researched living possibilities some more. Took a nap. Tomorrow morning I am signed up for a webinar on how the retirement payments, etc. works. Turns out there are a few things to check on and get lined up. I can see why they recommend a 2 month to 6 month notice,

    Take care all,

    Ginny in Ohio
  • Katla49
    Katla49 Posts: 10,385 Member
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  • kymarai
    kymarai Posts: 3,702 Member
    edited December 2022
    Heather I like the cover idea. I am with Lisa though, the line under the eyes for some reason disturbs me. Maybe angled across the face like from eye to jawline. That way it would still separate the yes from the mouth like what we see isn't always what is said.
    Rebecca My ex has been fine with one kidney for almost 15 years now. Glad your doctors had some answers.
    Jeannie and Michele Last night is the first time I have had to take an allergy med in several years. Once again have a migraine going on day 3 and a little facial discomfort, figured allergy med couldn't hurt.

    Progression Small changes in attitudes and habits to make me and my life better. This week I have been packing lunches after dinner so they are ready in the morning. If I wait until morning, I usually end up eating chocolate or cookies most of day. I have also started asking someone to cover the counter for me for 15 mins so that I can actually eat. Small things, but that seems to be working for me. Like emptying the dishwasher before pouring coffee in the morning or taking my meds when I plug or unplug my phone (pm/am).

    This is the first time I have sat down since we got home. The weather is warm and was still dry when we got home, so we took down our blow up Christmas items to pack away before they got soaked in the rain. Also took down some of the Christmas lights. I have gathered Christmas items from other rooms of the house and they are now concentrated in the living/dining room. I have really enjoyed the lights this year and will miss them, but like to start the new year with things put away. After Christmas it is only 8 weeks of "darkness" aka winter. Most of the put away will happen Saturday as we are off work that day and they are calling for rain. Once all put in totes we will put back in garage until quits raining, then take to the barn loft.

    I have dishwasher running, laundry going, plants have been watered, sheets changed, and bed was sprayed with Lysol this morning. I try to do that when I change the sheets (once a week) or more often if either of us is sniffling. I don't wash our big comforter but 2 times a year.

    Stay Safe!
    Make the best choices you can!
    Know that you are all loved by many!

    <3
    Kylia in Ohio where this time last week it was minus 5 and tonight is 55 degrees.

    PS- One thing I miss are thank you notes! Even a text would be nice, but apparently that is too hard to do for some especially grands and children. I was expected to write a thank you whenever I received a gift.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,588 Member
    edited December 2022
    cityjaneLondon wrote: »
    I've ordered the robins painting as a Christmas card from a different printing company to make a comparison. I hope it comes out more true. :D I did the first tree one as an experiment.
    This company also do proper high quality art printing if I paint something worth reproducing.
    You never know until you try!

    Love Heather UK xxxxxxxx

    I go places around Tasmania and see that people are selling prints of their photographs of Tasmanian scenery and I keep thinking that one day I should try. Some of mine are as good as some of theirs.

    I haven't quite got up the ... I don't know ... time/energy/courage to try. But as you say, you never know until you try.

    I think the images on your card look all right, if it were me, I would change the text font and size as they sort of overwhelm the images.


    Gift Cards - I use virtual Amazon gift cards for my overseas family in Canada and the US. I can tell if they were received/used if I wanted. :) I wouldn't send a person an actual gift card in the mail.

    Tatoos - I don't have any and probably won't get any, but if I did, it would be a small bicycle on my ankle.

    Pets - Rhody travels with us, but we have had a pet sitter for him on one weekend.

    Online Transaction Cost - I think it depends on the bank and accounts used.

    Finances - my father is very good with finances (and anything math in general), and took the time to teach me how to balance a chequebook, when that was a thing, and budget, etc. I am very thankful for that. My first husband had no idea about any of that and money went out faster than it came in. When he and I separated, it took me about 2 years to get into the black, and for the most part, I've been there since. Fortunately, my now husband is passionate about saving money. :)

    Allergies - I take an allergy pill just about every day. Things bloom year round here! But when I bring out the Christmas decorations, I have to take an extra one for a few days because of the dust and this year the pollen count is high and I'm taking an extra one about every other day.

    Machka in Oz
  • exermom
    exermom Posts: 6,515 Member
    Kylia -I usually make my breakfast the night before. Can’t be bothered to think first thing in the morning...lol I, too, was always expected to somehow acknowledge a gift, no matter how small. I still do. I always taught my children to but I guess it didn’t stick. Denise used to. I don’t know what happened (I do suspect but I don’t have any proof)

    It’s been staying lighter longer...yea. 5:30 and it was still light out...yes!!!

    Michele NC
    who is off to take a shower and then to bed.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,588 Member
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  • dlfk202000
    dlfk202000 Posts: 3,182 Member
    dh and I have always had joint accounts. When we first got married, I paid all the bills out of those accounts(checking/savings), over time, he took over doing it(don't remember why the change).
    He does have an account that was from when he had a small amount from direct deposit for saving bonds but when they stopped doing that, the money just went into the account, and now, he just puts money into it on his own. That is attached to his ATM card- He uses that when we are out shopping or will use cash. I am on all the accounts.
    I also have my own accounts that I have started but never use any of them- just keep saving. He knows about all of them except one. That one I use my mom's address. I started it as a "just in case" account.
    His check goes between our main account at the credit union and his ATM account and all the bills are paid from those two. My check goes into the main account. I do get a little each week from Ezie's mom(the county pays for her daycare but don't pay my full fee so she pays the difference)- that money is mine to use any way I want- I just keep saving. One of these days I will figure out what I want to use it for.
    We are pretty much debt free- just normal bills- property tax/ insurance and monthly bills.
    He is a shopper- constantly buying some new toy or gadget. He is working extra hours since they lifted the restrictions for retirees so I never say anything about what he buys.

    My hope is that when his mom dies and we are not tied to her that I will use some of that saved money and do a nice cruise- just him and I- we need to do something to get back on track.
    Until she is gone, we can't even get away for a day, the way it is.
    Not sure how he will feel about it. He has said he would be ok but, he always invites a friend when we do vacations(we also always have our son and now his girlfriend with us on all trips)
  • Whidislander
    Whidislander Posts: 3,787 Member
    exermom wrote: »
    Worked but the plan for tomorrow is to do Denise austin’s Quick Burn Cardio DVD

    DrKatie – remember when we were younger and no matter how comfortable something was, if it wasn’t fashionable, we didn’t wear it? Now we wear clothes a lot for comfort

    Tatoos: When I turned 40 I thought it would be way cool to get a second piercing in my ear. Today I regret that decision. So I’m afraid to get a tatoo. I may think it’s cool today but in 10 years? That’s just me. Ginny – I’m looking forward to seeing a pic of your tatoo

    Karen – great suggestion to Kim to buy her own gift! But I would suspect that her mother wouldn’t like it, no matter what it was and wouldn’t want to give it to her

    Heather – I am very impressed with all the new things you are doing

    Rebecca – I’m so sorry about your kidney. Will you have to monitor your protein intake?

    The weather here is really weird. At Christmas time it was down in the 20’s. Now for Nyear’s it’s supposed to be up in the 50’s. Go figure!

    One thing I realized while we were at Jess’ was that the pants I was wearing, I must have bought about 15-17 years ago and they still fit! To me, that was something.

    Think I’ll go for my walk.

    Michele NC

    Doctor didn't mention anything about protein.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa
  • Whidislander
    Whidislander Posts: 3,787 Member
    auntiebk wrote: »
    28 An opportunity you’re grateful you had. To switch from Assistant Pricing Mgr to Network and PC Support Supv. – It let me keep my job for another 28 years, although we had to move to Boise for 27 of those ;)

    Ginny your penguin tattoo reminds me how much I miss Penny @lagopus.
    Kylia so many are now enslaved to their jobs due medical insurance needs. Don’t envy your coming hard conversations with DH, his Sister and any other owners. Tough times.
    Lanette, Could you take Sophie and Kitty with you to your SIL’s? Guessing Sophie is too big to fit in a Sherpa under an airline seat, perhaps on the train?
    Barbie glad the park management is taking care of the trees. We’ve had some not-so-tall trees removed and yes it is a fascinating and scary process. Good question about the checks.
    Michele, do you know how headphones could connect to the drum set? Is there a headphone jack or would it have to be Bluetooth or???
    Kay I like your simple main categories and love your new comfy pjs.
    for continuing to keep connected despite the pain.
    Machka like your categories too. Must have been channeling you. Found MSAccess on my laptop and the Personal Account Ledger template complete with categories for income and expenses. Started entering 2023 income/expenses for tracking or figured out how to set budgeted amounts and reduce as expenses entered, but it feels good to play in a database again after all these years. Will use my “actual” spreadsheet to come up with budget estimates for 2023 and plop them into the db. Whee! That Stevens Pass video makes me think the SnowCat was a Zamboni.
    Katla yours to Kim. Perfect.
    Karen in VA :love: those yorkies!
    Margaret love the gratitude/great year jar idea. Stunning display!
    Heather I’m in awe of your and Johnny’s watercolors.
    Rebecca what a shocker. When is surgery scheduled? Or did they take the kidney when they took the gall bladder?
    Debbie your red fringed boots and jacket sound so cute!
    Lisa “I have loved . . . I feel as if I've lived with y'all, been part of your lives, and even seen into your hearts in some cases. This group is unique in my life, it always has been, and I am so grateful for y'all. ” Well, said, and amen, sister, amen.
    Rosemarie sorry the new combo of meds had such a bad result. Glad you took quick action.
    Michele still able to wear pants from 15-17 years ago? Bravissima!
    Kim ((hugs)) Really admire your courage and ability to go from tears to laughing and dancing a jig. VERY well done.

    Lanette, Michele, Karen and all, thank you for being so kind about my encylopedias ;)

    Tumble is squeaking that its way past Tummy Time. It’s not, but I’ll give in.


    Personal Lighter, lovelies!
    Barbara, the Southern Oregon Coastie AHMOD x8zcp1ya37k1.gif
    2022: Be still and listen.
    December: Move more, fuel better, live NOW.

    Nope they just leave the atrophied kidney with the stones in my body. No need to remove as the other kidney is working fine.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa
  • Whidislander
    Whidislander Posts: 3,787 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Heather, the paintings are beautiful!

    barbiecat wrote: »
    :) We send checks to our grandchildren for their birthdays. How would we send them money if we didn't use checks?

    Direct deposit into their accounts. :)

    That's how it's done here. That way they've got it right away without the hassle of having to find a bank that will cash the cheque for them.

    That's what we do if we don't have cash on hand and there's a collection at work for someone's retirement or whatever too.

    LisaInArkansas wrote: »
    Regarding cash gifts, I purchase Visa or MasterCard cards for the older grands so they can get what they want wherever they want, rather than having to spend them in a specific store. I'm sure within reason they've never seen a check. The "credit cards" make more sense for a lot of different reasons. I wouldn't have had the foggiest clue what to do with it at their age, but they certainly know! I've also sent my son cash through Google Pay, but am a little uncomfortable with that. :| Not even sure why.

    Recently (in the last few months) I overheard a conversation where an older person was trying to describe the concept of a cheque to a younger person. That you write the amount on a piece of paper and sign it and they can take it to the bank and the bank will give them money. The young person thought the older person was joking and couldn't believe it.

    Whidislander wrote: »
    Got your pictures Heather! Thank you ever so much! I will be making copies soon buying cardstock and envelopes. 👍🏻💖🤗
    Well yesterday's kidney appointment was an eyes opening experience! The doctor announced that my right kidney is non functioning and has atrophied. Thank goodness that is the one with two large stones. My other kidney has taken up duty, functioning fine. He said many people lose one kidney and do just fine for the rest of their lives with the other kidney. My hemoglobin numbers are good in my left kidney, but I have to watch my creatinine numbers. Creatinine is a waste product from your muscles working properly. Unfortunately if my kidney isn't working well it can't filter creatinine out of my blood properly. So every 6 months I will get bloodwork to check that. Right now its at 1.8 which is good. So I was bummed I lost a kidney, but just like my gallbladder, I had lost the function of it a long time ago. I was really relieved that I don't have to get the stones blasted, that they are so big there is no chance of me ever having to deal with the pain of passing them! That really concerned me.
    Rebecca

    I'm glad you got it checked!

    I'm still waiting to get in to see my kidney specialist. :neutral:



    M in Oz

    I hope you get in to kidney doctor in a timely manner! Hugs!
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa
  • Whidislander
    Whidislander Posts: 3,787 Member
    edited December 2022
    SophieRosieMom wrote: »
    Kim - LOL the boot discussion with your mom the "pimp". Enjoy the boots! And enjoy your NYE fondue party. Do you get crazy fireworks in your neighborhood and does it bother Levi?

    Ginny - I like that tattoo, very well done. So nice it has meaning with your kids - I think there are/were cultures where tattoos are familial custom. Anxious to hear what your final retirement plans will be as far as where/if you'll move.

    Rebecca - stunning news about your non-functioning kidney, and happy for you it hasn't been giving any trouble. Hoping Lee does well changing his eating and getting those numbers down.

    Barbara - my dog is too big to stuff into a carry-on. Maybe I could put a dress and hat on her and say she's my grandchild and keep her swaddled in a baby carrier :D Not sure how I'd explain the barking and screaming other than keep her drugged. Seriously, I haven't flown for over 20 years. Maybe some day. My brother told me he has Zoom hooked up so perhaps I can connect with SIL that way soon. I've used it in the past to take classes.

    Machka - looking good! Great photo of you and your DH!

    KJ - have a good trip. Can't wait to see photos of your grands. :)

    Margaret - those rosemary trees are so nice. Gorgeous poinsettia's! I looked for a rosemary tree a few weeks ago, didn't see any, which is probably good. I already have 2 small potted rosemary plants that need to be repotted.

    Regarding Finances - getting this stuff figured out early next year is one of my goals. While I enjoy budgeting, investing is at the bottom of my list, not that I have much to invest. Had a very good phone consult last week with a rep from my Credit Union. I don't have a beneficiary set up for my account. Since it will only go "into effect" when I pass, I can list anyone or any institution I want and I think it will bypass probate, so I'm giving it serious consideration.

    Having Medical and Financial Powers of Attorney set up (plus the Community Property Agreement which is Ok for the State of Washington) was the best money we ever spent for peace of mind. DH's passing - no hassles, nothing "tied up". We had asked about a trust, our attorney said since we don't have children or anything complicated as far as inheritance, a trust isn't worth the bother.

    Prior to getting all of that paperwork done, DH and I kept putting it off. Until he got a bad case of diverticulitis and needed colon surgery. THEN we had the serious talk that we can't put if off any longer. The surgery was a success and many worries taken care of.

    Word for 2023 - I'm vacillating between Journey and Adventure. I continue my health and personal journey, but adventure has an air of fun and challenge. Maybe I'll just hyphenate since they'll go hand in hand for me as they have the past 6 months. :)

    I can't come up with any goals other than keep working on my health (never ending journey there) and making improvements/cleanup to the property as time and budget allows.

    Sugar and Inflammation - a final comment. Am I the only person in this group that had serious inflammation flares from hitting the sugary stuff and overeating over the past week? My broken toe/foot area has been really aching and swollen. Arthritis in right hand a bugger. Now, several days back into more healthful controlled eating and no junk food, everything is doing a lot better. Thankful.

    That's it for now. Make it a fabulous day! <3

    Lanette B)
    SW WA State

    Thanks! I worry about Lee as he has ALL the symptoms of type 1 diabetes
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    Its kind of scary but he's eating better.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,588 Member
    Tatts ... I've used temp tatts on some of my bigger cycling events ...

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  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,588 Member
    Whidislander wrote: »
    Thanks! I worry about Lee as he has ALL the symptoms of type 1 diabetes
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    Its kind of scary but he's eating better.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa

    https://www.diabetes.org.uk/diabetes-the-basics/differences-between-type-1-and-type-2-diabetes

    "The main difference between the type 1 and type 2 diabetes is that type 1 diabetes is a genetic condition that often shows up early in life, and type 2 is mainly lifestyle-related and develops over time."

    If he's just showing symptoms now, it's likely Type 2.


    M in Oz
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,588 Member
    Whidislander wrote: »
    exermom wrote: »
    Worked but the plan for tomorrow is to do Denise austin’s Quick Burn Cardio DVD

    DrKatie – remember when we were younger and no matter how comfortable something was, if it wasn’t fashionable, we didn’t wear it? Now we wear clothes a lot for comfort

    Tatoos: When I turned 40 I thought it would be way cool to get a second piercing in my ear. Today I regret that decision. So I’m afraid to get a tatoo. I may think it’s cool today but in 10 years? That’s just me. Ginny – I’m looking forward to seeing a pic of your tatoo

    Karen – great suggestion to Kim to buy her own gift! But I would suspect that her mother wouldn’t like it, no matter what it was and wouldn’t want to give it to her

    Heather – I am very impressed with all the new things you are doing

    Rebecca – I’m so sorry about your kidney. Will you have to monitor your protein intake?

    The weather here is really weird. At Christmas time it was down in the 20’s. Now for Nyear’s it’s supposed to be up in the 50’s. Go figure!

    One thing I realized while we were at Jess’ was that the pants I was wearing, I must have bought about 15-17 years ago and they still fit! To me, that was something.

    Think I’ll go for my walk.

    Michele NC

    Doctor didn't mention anything about protein.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa

    You might ask ... that's one thing I have to watch with my kidney damage. Fortunately, I don't consume much protein, especially not much animal protein.

    M in Oz
  • pipcd34
    pipcd34 Posts: 17,243 Member
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  • KetoneKaren
    KetoneKaren Posts: 6,412 Member
    barbiecat wrote: »
    :) My father's advice, "The way to save money is to not spend it".

    Warren Buffet would agree with your father.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,588 Member
    This stuff (Prunella vulgaris L. or Common Self Heal) has sturdy roots! No wonder it spreads everywhere. I've decided to leave some in, but to plant a couple other things with similar hardiness to provide some competition.

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  • Whidislander
    Whidislander Posts: 3,787 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Whidislander wrote: »
    Thanks! I worry about Lee as he has ALL the symptoms of type 1 diabetes
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    Its kind of scary but he's eating better.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa

    https://www.diabetes.org.uk/diabetes-the-basics/differences-between-type-1-and-type-2-diabetes

    "The main difference between the type 1 and type 2 diabetes is that type 1 diabetes is a genetic condition that often shows up early in life, and type 2 is mainly lifestyle-related and develops over time."

    If he's just showing symptoms now, it's likely Type 2.


    M in Oz

    Oh gotcha! Thanks!
    Rebecca
  • Whidislander
    Whidislander Posts: 3,787 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Whidislander wrote: »
    exermom wrote: »
    Worked but the plan for tomorrow is to do Denise austin’s Quick Burn Cardio DVD

    DrKatie – remember when we were younger and no matter how comfortable something was, if it wasn’t fashionable, we didn’t wear it? Now we wear clothes a lot for comfort

    Tatoos: When I turned 40 I thought it would be way cool to get a second piercing in my ear. Today I regret that decision. So I’m afraid to get a tatoo. I may think it’s cool today but in 10 years? That’s just me. Ginny – I’m looking forward to seeing a pic of your tatoo

    Karen – great suggestion to Kim to buy her own gift! But I would suspect that her mother wouldn’t like it, no matter what it was and wouldn’t want to give it to her

    Heather – I am very impressed with all the new things you are doing

    Rebecca – I’m so sorry about your kidney. Will you have to monitor your protein intake?

    The weather here is really weird. At Christmas time it was down in the 20’s. Now for Nyear’s it’s supposed to be up in the 50’s. Go figure!

    One thing I realized while we were at Jess’ was that the pants I was wearing, I must have bought about 15-17 years ago and they still fit! To me, that was something.

    Think I’ll go for my walk.

    Michele NC

    Doctor didn't mention anything about protein.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa

    You might ask ... that's one thing I have to watch with my kidney damage. Fortunately, I don't consume much protein, especially not much animal protein.

    M in Oz

    Unfortunately the anti rejection meds he's on to keep his liver going slowing will affect his kidneys. Its a balancing act of taking just enough so his liver is good, but not too much.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa
  • KetoneKaren
    KetoneKaren Posts: 6,412 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    This stuff (Prunella vulgaris L. or Common Self Heal) has sturdy roots! No wonder it spreads everywhere. I've decided to leave some in, but to plant a couple other things with similar hardiness to provide some competition.

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    So you decided it isn't Salvia after all? It's hard to tell - they look fairly similar - but Prunella has square stems, I believe.
  • skuehn48
    skuehn48 Posts: 3,037 Member
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  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,588 Member
    Whidislander wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Whidislander wrote: »
    exermom wrote: »
    Worked but the plan for tomorrow is to do Denise austin’s Quick Burn Cardio DVD

    DrKatie – remember when we were younger and no matter how comfortable something was, if it wasn’t fashionable, we didn’t wear it? Now we wear clothes a lot for comfort

    Tatoos: When I turned 40 I thought it would be way cool to get a second piercing in my ear. Today I regret that decision. So I’m afraid to get a tatoo. I may think it’s cool today but in 10 years? That’s just me. Ginny – I’m looking forward to seeing a pic of your tatoo

    Karen – great suggestion to Kim to buy her own gift! But I would suspect that her mother wouldn’t like it, no matter what it was and wouldn’t want to give it to her

    Heather – I am very impressed with all the new things you are doing

    Rebecca – I’m so sorry about your kidney. Will you have to monitor your protein intake?

    The weather here is really weird. At Christmas time it was down in the 20’s. Now for Nyear’s it’s supposed to be up in the 50’s. Go figure!

    One thing I realized while we were at Jess’ was that the pants I was wearing, I must have bought about 15-17 years ago and they still fit! To me, that was something.

    Think I’ll go for my walk.

    Michele NC

    Doctor didn't mention anything about protein.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa

    You might ask ... that's one thing I have to watch with my kidney damage. Fortunately, I don't consume much protein, especially not much animal protein.

    M in Oz

    Unfortunately the anti rejection meds he's on to keep his liver going slowing will affect his kidneys. Its a balancing act of taking just enough so his liver is good, but not too much.
    Rebecca
    Whidbey
    Wa

    I meant for you and your kidney issues. Protein is hard on kidneys.

    M in Oz
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,588 Member
    KetoneKaren wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    This stuff (Prunella vulgaris L. or Common Self Heal) has sturdy roots! No wonder it spreads everywhere. I've decided to leave some in, but to plant a couple other things with similar hardiness to provide some competition.

    5f4q2ysq04p3.png

    So you decided it isn't Salvia after all? It's hard to tell - they look fairly similar - but Prunella has square stems, I believe.

    I'm still not 100% sure but it is spreading everywhere including the lawn so whatever it is, it's persistent!

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