If You Drink DIET SODAS Then YOU Need to Read This.

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  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
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    I agree. I read the Snopes rebuttal, but I wonder if we can actually trust the feds to tell us the truth...That would be the rub here. I cannot believe that any of these chemicals are actually not harmful. I say it again. Water is the best. Now...which water?

    The feds? You can read the original research. There's a ton of it.

    Don't listen to jonnythan. He's just a little angry right now. And just a TAD one-sided.

    I think it's great that you're wondering and thinking and making your own conclusions. Water is best, and yes, good question..... Which one?

    Telling someone they have the option to read the original research to better make up their own mind is biased and makes him angry? :huh:

    Only angry people read.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
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    I agree. I read the Snopes rebuttal, but I wonder if we can actually trust the feds to tell us the truth...That would be the rub here. I cannot believe that any of these chemicals are actually not harmful. I say it again. Water is the best. Now...which water?

    The feds? You can read the original research. There's a ton of it.

    Don't listen to jonnythan. He's just a little angry right now. And just a TAD one-sided.

    I think it's great that you're wondering and thinking and making your own conclusions. Water is best, and yes, good question..... Which one?

    Telling someone they have the option to read the original research to better make up their own mind is biased and makes him angry? :huh:

    It's obviously much easier to just say "these are CHEMICALS and they are obviously bad for you; I don't need science or research, I know all about chemicals just by instinct!"
  • siqiniq
    siqiniq Posts: 237 Member
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    A KILLER IN YOUR FRIDGE... :devil:

    SWEET POISON..A MUST READ !!! :indifferent:

    In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick She had stomach spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much pain.

    By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and was on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine what was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so sick she just knew she was dying.

    She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to be taken care of.

    She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida (basically in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.

    On March 19, I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.

    I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my sister if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that moment.

    I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda! I e-mailed her an article my friend, a lawyer, had sent. My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told me she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk! The muscle spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but, she sure felt a lot better.

    She told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would call me when she got home.

    Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call all of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any kind. In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet soda.. and literally dying a slow and miserable death

    When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and that was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a complete recovery. And she is walking! No wheelchair! This article saved her life.If it says 'SUGAR FREE' on the label; DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on 'ASPARTAME,' marketed as'Nutra Sweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to be rampant. I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.

    I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. The methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus.

    Many people were being diagnosed in error. Although multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, Methanol toxicity is!

    Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers.The victim usually does not know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use; irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a life-threatening condition. We have seen patients with systemic lupus become asymptotic, once taken off diet sodas.

    In cases of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen many cases where vision loss returned and hearing loss improved markedly.

    This also applies to cases of tinnitus and fibromyalgia. During a lecture, I said, 'If you are using ASPARTAME (Nutra Sweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs,
    Cramps,
    Vertigo,
    Dizziness,
    Headaches,
    Tinnitus,
    Joint pain,
    Unexplainable depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss you probably have ASPARTAME poisoning!' People were jumping up during the lecture saying,'I have some of these symptoms. Is it reversible?'

    Yes!
    Yes!
    Yes!
    STOP drinking diet sodas and be alert for Aspartame on food labels! Many products are fortified with it! This is a serious problem. Dr. Espart (one of my speakers) remarked that so many people seem to be symptomatic for MS and during his recent visit to a hospice; a nurse stated that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence!

    Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered, multiple SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually makes you crave carbohydrates.

    It is far more likely to make you GAIN weight!

    These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the fat cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an absolute toxin and is used primarily to preserve 'tissue specimens.'

    Many products we use every day contain this chemical but we SHOULD NOT store it IN our body!

    Dr. H. J. Roberts stated in his lectures that once free of the 'diet products' and with no significant increase in exercise; his patients lost an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics. We found that some physicians, who believed that they had a patient with retinopathy, in fact, had symptoms caused by Aspartame. The Aspartame drives the blood sugar out of control. Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that aspartic acid and phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken without the other amino acids necessary for a good balance.

    Treating diabetes is all about BALANCE.. Especially with diabetics, the Aspartame passes the blood/brain barrier and it then deteriorates the neurons of the brain; causing various levels of brain damage, Seizures, Depression, Manic depression, Panic attacks, Uncontrollable anger and rage.Consumption of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics as well. Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of children diagnosed with ADD and ADHD have had complete turnarounds in their behavior when these chemicals have been removed from their diet.

    So called 'behavior modification prescription drugs' (Ritalin and others) are no longer needed.Truth be told, they were never NEEDED in the first place!Most of these children were being 'poisoned' on a daily basis with the very foods that were 'better for them than sugar.'It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets of diet Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in the Gulf War, may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War Syndrome.

    Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e. mental retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during early pregnancy. Children are especially at risk for neurological disorders and should NEVER be given artificial sweeteners.

    There are many different case histories to relate of children suffering grand mal seizures and other neurological disturbances talking about a plague of neurological diseases directly caused by the use of this deadly poison.'

    Herein lies the problem: There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame was included in 100 different products and strong objection was made concerning its use. Since this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, and still nothing has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets.

    Sadly, MONSANTO'S patent on Aspartame has EXPIRED! There are now over 5,000 products on the market that contain this deadly chemical and there will be thousands more introduced. Everybody wants a 'piece of the Aspartame pie.'I assure you that MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame, knows how deadly it is.

    And isn't it ironic that MONSANTO funds, among others, the American Diabetes Association, the American Dietetic Association and the Conference of the American College of Physicians?

    This has been recently exposed in the New York Times. These [organizations] cannot criticize any additives or convey their link to MONSANTO because they take money from the food industry and are required to endorse their products.Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote and presented a bill that would require label warnings on products containing Aspartame, especially regarding pregnant women, children and infants.

    The bill would also institute independent studies on the known dangers and the problems existing in the general population regarding seizures, changes in brain chemistry, neurological changes and behavioural symptoms.
    The bill was killed.It is known that the powerful drug and chemical lobbies are responsible for this, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting and uninformed public. Well, you're informed now!

    Please print this out and/or e-mail to your family and friends.
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    I found this right up on the web and thought i would share. Thanks for reading

    Feel free to add me :happy:
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    this is so ridiculous. How much was she drinking? I drink diet Pepsi, and I'm not giving it up. I have a can every few days, not multiple cans per day. this is one more sensationalist story. Ooooh, but if you found it on the internet it must be true, right? different substances affect people in different ways. How many people do you KNOW who had this happen?
    Remember Abe Lincoln's warning about believing everything you read on the internet.
  • siqiniq
    siqiniq Posts: 237 Member
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    It was just a post i came by to be honest, Aspartame may or may not be bad for you but me personaly dont drink any thing but water anyway as its natural and think its the best and healthiest liquid around and most of all its free.

    but some people say Aspartame is bad for you so i thought id share this as it may just be that way.

    there is alot of articles that say its bad and in some place has been banned from using it

    BUT.... Its up to you to believe it or not

    My advice to you is choose WATER to drink instead its ZERO Calories & Good for you.
    remeber the human body is 70 - 80% water to so we need water to servive :drinker:


    I wish it was true that water is free!
  • siqiniq
    siqiniq Posts: 237 Member
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    Regardless of all the above, it's better to stay away from artificial anything.

    That's your opinion.
  • earthymom
    earthymom Posts: 52 Member
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    I agree. I read the Snopes rebuttal, but I wonder if we can actually trust the feds to tell us the truth...That would be the rub here. I cannot believe that any of these chemicals are actually not harmful. I say it again. Water is the best. Now...which water?

    The feds? You can read the original research. There's a ton of it.

    Don't listen to jonnythan. He's just a little angry right now. And just a TAD one-sided.

    I think it's great that you're wondering and thinking and making your own conclusions. Water is best, and yes, good question..... Which one?

    Telling someone they have the option to read the original research to better make up their own mind is biased and makes him angry? :huh:

    It's obviously much easier to just say "these are CHEMICALS and they are obviously bad for you; I don't need science or research, I know all about chemicals just by instinct!"

    What I meant by one sided, is some people only believe research put out by our government. That this information is the truth and that's it. There's a lot more information out there that's to the contrary. Is it the truth? Who knows? I think people have a right to an opinion. Read everything. Make a decision for yourself! Everything isn't a yes or no answer. Or a right or wrong. I wouldn't quote any articles, because surely they would be criticized.

    And yes, I think a man-made chemical that tastes like sugar, but has no calories, made into an ingestable form are probably not good for you. Maybe I'm wrong. But everyone who thinks otherwise, have at it!
  • earthymom
    earthymom Posts: 52 Member
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    Regardless of all the above, it's better to stay away from artificial anything.

    That's your opinion.

    That you are entitled to. I happen to agree. :)
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
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    What I meant by one sided, is some people only believe research put out by our government. That this information is the truth and that's it. There's a lot more information out there that's to the contrary. Is it the truth? Who knows? I think people have a right to an opinion. Read everything. Make a decision for yourself! Everything isn't a yes or no answer. Or a right or wrong. I wouldn't quote any articles, because surely they would be criticized.

    And yes, I think a man-made chemical that tastes like sugar, but has no calories, made into an ingestable form are probably not good for you. Maybe I'm wrong. But everyone who thinks otherwise, have at it!

    What do you mean by "research put out by our governemnt"?

    Where is this contrary evidence? Presumably you're talking about research that shows aspartame is dangerous or harmful? Can you link us to some of this research please?

    BTW, aspartame is digestible. It's fully and quickly digested into a pair of amino acids and, sometimes, a molecule of methanol.

    Aspartame is not actually calorie-free. Since it is made of a pair of amino acids, it has about 4 calories per gram, just like protein (which is also made of amino acids) and sugar itself. The reason a product like Diet Coke has "0 calories" on the label is that a can only has about 0.1 grams of aspartame. That's about 0.4 calories worth of sweetener. That's also why Coke Zero advertises "zero calories" (sucralose really does have no calories) and Diet Coke doesn't. Aspartame is so much sweeter-tasting than sugar that you need a tiny fraction of the amount to get a similar sweetness.

    (ETA: just FYI, this is what a post based on knowledge and fact looks like. Contrast this with your "it's a chemical and I just know it's bad for you because I just know!")
  • earthymom
    earthymom Posts: 52 Member
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    What I meant by one sided, is some people only believe research put out by our government. That this information is the truth and that's it. There's a lot more information out there that's to the contrary. Is it the truth? Who knows? I think people have a right to an opinion. Read everything. Make a decision for yourself! Everything isn't a yes or no answer. Or a right or wrong. I wouldn't quote any articles, because surely they would be criticized.

    And yes, I think a man-made chemical that tastes like sugar, but has no calories, made into an ingestable form are probably not good for you. Maybe I'm wrong. But everyone who thinks otherwise, have at it!



    What do you mean by "research put out by our governemnt"?

    Where is this contrary evidence? Presumably you're talking about research that shows aspartame is dangerous or harmful? Can you link us to some of this research please?

    BTW, aspartame is digestible. It's fully and quickly digested into a pair of amino acids and, sometimes, a molecule of methanol.

    Aspartame is not actually calorie-free. Since it is made of a pair of amino acids, it has about 4 calories per gram, just like protein (which is also made of amino acids) and sugar itself. The reason a product like Diet Coke has "0 calories" on the label is that a can only has about 0.1 grams of aspartame. That's about 0.4 calories worth of sweetener. That's also why Coke Zero advertises "zero calories" (sucralose really does have no calories) and Diet Coke doesn't. Aspartame is so much sweeter-tasting than sugar that you need a tiny fraction of the amount to get a similar sweetness.

    (ETA: just FYI, this is what a post based on knowledge and fact looks like. Contrast this with your "it's a chemical and I just know it's bad for you because I just know!")

    I encourage everyone to do their own research and make their own decision. There's plenty of info out there. Read it! Make your own choice!

    Is that so bad?
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,110 Member
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    What I meant by one sided, is some people only believe research put out by our government. That this information is the truth and that's it. There's a lot more information out there that's to the contrary. Is it the truth? Who knows? I think people have a right to an opinion. Read everything. Make a decision for yourself! Everything isn't a yes or no answer. Or a right or wrong. I wouldn't quote any articles, because surely they would be criticized.

    And yes, I think a man-made chemical that tastes like sugar, but has no calories, made into an ingestable form are probably not good for you. Maybe I'm wrong. But everyone who thinks otherwise, have at it!



    What do you mean by "research put out by our governemnt"?

    Where is this contrary evidence? Presumably you're talking about research that shows aspartame is dangerous or harmful? Can you link us to some of this research please?

    BTW, aspartame is digestible. It's fully and quickly digested into a pair of amino acids and, sometimes, a molecule of methanol.

    Aspartame is not actually calorie-free. Since it is made of a pair of amino acids, it has about 4 calories per gram, just like protein (which is also made of amino acids) and sugar itself. The reason a product like Diet Coke has "0 calories" on the label is that a can only has about 0.1 grams of aspartame. That's about 0.4 calories worth of sweetener. That's also why Coke Zero advertises "zero calories" (sucralose really does have no calories) and Diet Coke doesn't. Aspartame is so much sweeter-tasting than sugar that you need a tiny fraction of the amount to get a similar sweetness.

    (ETA: just FYI, this is what a post based on knowledge and fact looks like. Contrast this with your "it's a chemical and I just know it's bad for you because I just know!")

    I encourage everyone to do their own research and make their own decision. There's plenty of info out there. Read it! Make your own choice!

    Is that so bad?

    We get it. You don't have to keep chiming in.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
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    I encourage everyone to do their own research and make their own decision. There's plenty of info out there. Read it! Make your own choice!

    Is that so bad?

    Nope, that's great. If you read the actual research and understand the chemistry, then this "debate" will disappear.
  • earthymom
    earthymom Posts: 52 Member
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    I encourage everyone to do their own research and make their own decision. There's plenty of info out there. Read it! Make your own choice!

    Is that so bad?

    Nope, that's great. If you read the actual research and understand the chemistry, then this "debate" will disappear.

    Again, good luck to you in gaining, or losing, or whatever you're trying to do.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    yeah i think right...water is the best and easiest way to start losing weight.

    lose your love handles now..

    Edited to remove spam


    Hmmmmmmm


    Don't think so.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,110 Member
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    yeah i think right...water is the best and easiest way to start losing weight.

    lose your love handles now..

    Edited to remove spam


    Hmmmmmmm


    Don't think so.

    ha ha, perfect.
  • VorJoshigan
    VorJoshigan Posts: 1,106 Member
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    It was just a post i came by to be honest, Aspartame may or may not be bad for you but me personaly dont drink any thing but water anyway as its natural and think its the best and healthiest liquid around and most of all its free.

    but some people say Aspartame is bad for you so i thought id share this as it may just be that way.

    there is alot of articles that say its bad and in some place has been banned from using it

    BUT.... Its up to you to believe it or not

    My advice to you is choose WATER to drink instead its ZERO Calories & Good for you.
    remeber the human body is 70 - 80% water to so we need water to servive :drinker:

    As has been said, wine and beer are also 100% natural and good for you.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
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    yeah i think right...water is the best and easiest way to start losing weight.

    lose your love handles now..

    /sips pepsi

    /glances are steadily vanishing love handles

    Nope, I'm good
  • toaster6
    toaster6 Posts: 703 Member
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    What I meant by one sided, is some people only believe research put out by our government. That this information is the truth and that's it. There's a lot more information out there that's to the contrary. Is it the truth? Who knows? I think people have a right to an opinion. Read everything. Make a decision for yourself! Everything isn't a yes or no answer. Or a right or wrong. I wouldn't quote any articles, because surely they would be criticized.

    And yes, I think a man-made chemical that tastes like sugar, but has no calories, made into an ingestable form are probably not good for you. Maybe I'm wrong. But everyone who thinks otherwise, have at it!



    What do you mean by "research put out by our governemnt"?

    Where is this contrary evidence? Presumably you're talking about research that shows aspartame is dangerous or harmful? Can you link us to some of this research please?

    BTW, aspartame is digestible. It's fully and quickly digested into a pair of amino acids and, sometimes, a molecule of methanol.

    Aspartame is not actually calorie-free. Since it is made of a pair of amino acids, it has about 4 calories per gram, just like protein (which is also made of amino acids) and sugar itself. The reason a product like Diet Coke has "0 calories" on the label is that a can only has about 0.1 grams of aspartame. That's about 0.4 calories worth of sweetener. That's also why Coke Zero advertises "zero calories" (sucralose really does have no calories) and Diet Coke doesn't. Aspartame is so much sweeter-tasting than sugar that you need a tiny fraction of the amount to get a similar sweetness.

    (ETA: just FYI, this is what a post based on knowledge and fact looks like. Contrast this with your "it's a chemical and I just know it's bad for you because I just know!")

    I encourage everyone to do their own research and make their own decision. There's plenty of info out there. Read it! Make your own choice!

    Is that so bad?

    A couple of posts back, you said you wouldn't cite research you have that supports your side because it would be criticized-- sorry but, that is the point of any scientific research, to stand up to scrutiny. If you do not think the research you have can stand up to criticism and questioning, you should really re-examine your position and your "evidence". If your research is credible, then it doesn't matter how much people mock it because in the end, it has evidence to back up the claims made.
  • narsgirl79
    narsgirl79 Posts: 41 Member
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    You know, when someone tries to be helpful, there is no need for the rudeness. Really.

    Thats what I was thinking! I agree that its not the healthiest thing to consume, specially all the time. .But I think he was truly tring to be helpfull.
  • snikkins
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  • earthymom
    earthymom Posts: 52 Member
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    What I meant by one sided, is some people only believe research put out by our government. That this information is the truth and that's it. There's a lot more information out there that's to the contrary. Is it the truth? Who knows? I think people have a right to an opinion. Read everything. Make a decision for yourself! Everything isn't a yes or no answer. Or a right or wrong. I wouldn't quote any articles, because surely they would be criticized.

    And yes, I think a man-made chemical that tastes like sugar, but has no calories, made into an ingestable form are probably not good for you. Maybe I'm wrong. But everyone who thinks otherwise, have at it!



    What do you mean by "research put out by our governemnt"?

    Where is this contrary evidence? Presumably you're talking about research that shows aspartame is dangerous or harmful? Can you link us to some of this research please?

    BTW, aspartame is digestible. It's fully and quickly digested into a pair of amino acids and, sometimes, a molecule of methanol.

    Aspartame is not actually calorie-free. Since it is made of a pair of amino acids, it has about 4 calories per gram, just like protein (which is also made of amino acids) and sugar itself. The reason a product like Diet Coke has "0 calories" on the label is that a can only has about 0.1 grams of aspartame. That's about 0.4 calories worth of sweetener. That's also why Coke Zero advertises "zero calories" (sucralose really does have no calories) and Diet Coke doesn't. Aspartame is so much sweeter-tasting than sugar that you need a tiny fraction of the amount to get a similar sweetness.

    (ETA: just FYI, this is what a post based on knowledge and fact looks like. Contrast this with your "it's a chemical and I just know it's bad for you because I just know!")

    I encourage everyone to do their own research and make their own decision. There's plenty of info out there. Read it! Make your own choice!

    Is that so bad?

    A couple of posts back, you said you wouldn't cite research you have that supports your side because it would be criticized-- sorry but, that is the point of any scientific research, to stand up to scrutiny. If you do not think the research you have can stand up to criticism and questioning, you should really re-examine your position and your "evidence". If your research is credible, then it doesn't matter how much people mock it because in the end, it has evidence to back up the claims made.

    search "aspartame dangers" or "artificial sugar dangers". Plenty to read.
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