All calories are not the same
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Peanuts are a bean.
Peanuts and beans are both legumes, but not all legumes are beans.0 -
This topic. AGAIN.
ARE we comparing calories, or are we comparing something else. PLease oh please be specific so we aren't all spinning our wheels.
Calorie wise, calories are calories.
A calorie is a form of measurement. One unit of measurement is sames a one unit of measurement.
Or are you measuring/comparing NUTRITIONAL VALUES ???
If that's the case, let's call it what is, and please change your topic to:
All NUTRITIONAL VALUES ARE NOT THE SAME.
^^^^^ This
You just have to mix it up sometime. I will eat pizza, it might or might not have chicken or spinach on it. But pizza will be eaten at some point. I get bored easily, chicken and veggies can get real boring that is why I give so much of my money to Penzys.0 -
People with very little weight loss, no proven fitness track record and single digit post count,: "All calories are not equal!"
People who have met their goal or close to, with track record of hitting fitness goals time and again, and with thousands of posts advising others : "A calorie is a calorie, hit your macros and be happy."
I know who I listen to.0 -
That's a ridiculous comparison because nobody eats nothing but pizza every day for a month, and you are comparing one food to a huge variety of foods. If you want to make it fair, have one month of eating only pizza and the other month of eating only broccoli.Anyways, I dare any of you to consume 1200 calories of pizza a day for a month and monitor your results.
Now the next month eat 1200 calories of whole natural foods, preferably raw, organic fruits and vegetables. including raw nuts.
Guess what, if you only eat broccoli for extended periods of time you'd get sick. That doesn't mean broccoli is bad for you, it just means people who make these arguments have no sense of context.0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Rhode Island is neither a road NOR an island! Everything I know is a LIE.0 -
This doesn't surprise me, majority of you use chemical substances such as aspartame ad sucralose as an alternative to sugar, because someone, somewhere told you it's completely healthy and natural.
Anyways, I dare any of you to consume 1200 calories of pizza a day for a month and monitor your results.
Now the next month eat 1200 calories of whole natural foods, preferably raw, organic fruits and vegetables. including raw nuts. and no, peanuts are not nuts. Now if you yield the same results with both diets I would be amazed, and it's simply would not happen. The fact is, at the end of the day, your body stores away fat in a means of protecting you. It's not going to store away the vegetables because it doesn't contain any fat, your body wants to store fat in case you suddenly don't have food anymore.
Pizza is a completely man made food, your body wasn't even designed to even digest man made foods . The body thrives on natural foods.
LOL?
You have a lot to learn.0 -
Peanuts are a bean.
Peanuts and beans are both legumes, but not all legumes are beans.
All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Cheesecake is generally classified as a custard tart due to its lack of flour. However, New York style cheesecake does contain flour, and therefore could be classified as cake.0 -
I'd eat pizza for a month if it can be homemade. I'm pretty sure I could even hit my macros this way.0
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That's a ridiculous comparison because nobody eats nothing but pizza every day for a month, and you are comparing one food to a huge variety of foods. If you want to make it fair, have one month of eating only pizza and the other month of eating only broccoli.Anyways, I dare any of you to consume 1200 calories of pizza a day for a month and monitor your results.
Now the next month eat 1200 calories of whole natural foods, preferably raw, organic fruits and vegetables. including raw nuts.
Guess what, if you only eat broccoli for extended periods of time you'd get sick. That doesn't mean broccoli is bad for you, it just means people who make these arguments have no sense of context.
I think this has the makings of a challenge - create a pizza that meets all macro- and micro- nutrient requirements and can be eaten at every meal. I think I could do it, and by George, maybe I will.0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Cheesecake is generally classified as a custard tart due to its lack of flour. However, New York style cheesecake does contain flour, and therefore could be classified as cake.
Custard pie or torte are the two things I will accept.
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I'd eat pizza for a month if it can be homemade. I'm pretty sure I could even hit my macros this way.
Haha! Great minds think alike.0 -
Calories are a measure of energy, the same way a centimeter is a measure of distance. A centimeter is not an inch because somebody decrees that not all centimeters are the same.0
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I'd eat pizza for a month if it can be homemade. I'm pretty sure I could even hit my macros this way.
Haha! Great minds think alike.
bleh.
I could eat a BURGER everyday.(srs)0 -
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I'd eat pizza for a month if it can be homemade. I'm pretty sure I could even hit my macros this way.
Haha! Great minds think alike.
bleh.
I could eat a BURGER everyday.(srs)
I probably could too. I'd just have a harder time hitting my macros.0 -
Can pizza be considered a taco?
Only if it has cauliflower.0 -
why is that?I'd eat pizza for a month if it can be homemade. I'm pretty sure I could even hit my macros this way.
Haha! Great minds think alike.
bleh.
I could eat a BURGER everyday.(srs)
I probably could too. I'd just have a harder time hitting my macros.
6oz sirloin beef patty has about 50g of protein and 20g of fat.
if you go for something like 96/4, 4oz has about 24g of protein for 4g of fat.0 -
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Sure, some pizzas are taco, but not all tacos are pizzas. And vice versa.Can pizza be considered a taco?0 -
I agree with the OP
It's about how your body utilizes a calorie of fat, protein or carbohydrate that makes the difference in nutrition and weight loss. Fats spend very little energy to be metabolized and stored as compared with carbs and proteins.
Check this website out :
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/nutrition/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie.aspx
. 'The energy cost to metabolize fat, carbs and protein is different
The body must use energy to digest, absorb and metabolize the energy in food. And it so happens that the body uses different amounts of energy to process different energy-containing nutrients. Generally, more energy is required to process protein than carbs, and more energy is required to process carbs than fat. What this means effectively is that a 2,500-calories-a-day high-protein diet adds fewer calories to the body than a 2,500-calories-a-day high-carb diet, which in turn adds fewer calories to the body than a 2,500-calories-a-day high-fat diet.
Admittedly, the differences are small. They do not in themselves constitute a rationale to consume a high-protein, low-fat diet for weight management.'
For fats to be broken down and absorbed they need only one enzymic reaction, taking energy from the fats only once. Proteins need two minimum reactions to breakdown, carbs as well. So we end up storing more of a calorie of lipid as compared to a calorie of protein or carbohydrate.
That is food for thought!
So that's food for thought.0 -
That's a ridiculous comparison because nobody eats nothing but pizza every day for a month, and you are comparing one food to a huge variety of foods. If you want to make it fair, have one month of eating only pizza and the other month of eating only broccoli.Anyways, I dare any of you to consume 1200 calories of pizza a day for a month and monitor your results.
Now the next month eat 1200 calories of whole natural foods, preferably raw, organic fruits and vegetables. including raw nuts.
Guess what, if you only eat broccoli for extended periods of time you'd get sick. That doesn't mean broccoli is bad for you, it just means people who make these arguments have no sense of context.
I think this has the makings of a challenge - create a pizza that meets all macro- and micro- nutrient requirements and can be eaten at every meal. I think I could do it, and by George, maybe I will.
I'm pretty sure that even eating only regular pizza would put you in better health condition than eating only broccoli. Choose a combination pizza with some meat and plenty of vegetables and it's a laughable no-contest.0 -
why is that?I'd eat pizza for a month if it can be homemade. I'm pretty sure I could even hit my macros this way.
Haha! Great minds think alike.
bleh.
I could eat a BURGER everyday.(srs)
I probably could too. I'd just have a harder time hitting my macros.
6oz sirloin beef patty has about 50g of protein and 20g of fat.
if you go for something like 96/4, 4oz has about 24g of protein for 4g of fat.
Hmm. That could actually work.0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Cheesecake is generally classified as a custard tart due to its lack of flour. However, New York style cheesecake does contain flour, and therefore could be classified as cake.
Custard pie or torte are the two things I will accept.
Maybe the general consensus is custard pie and I just got confused.
A huge thunderstorm last night kept waking up my kids and I didn't get much sleep. If my husband hadn't just left for a weeklong elk hunt I'd probably allow myself to pass out, that's how tired I am.0 -
a calorie is a unit of measurement.I agree with the OP
It's about how your body utilizes a calorie of fat, protein or carbohydrate that makes the difference in nutrition and weight loss. Fats spend very little energy to be metabolized and stored as compared with carbs and proteins.
Check this website out :
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/nutrition/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie.aspx
. 'The energy cost to metabolize fat, carbs and protein is different
The body must use energy to digest, absorb and metabolize the energy in food. And it so happens that the body uses different amounts of energy to process different energy-containing nutrients. Generally, more energy is required to process protein than carbs, and more energy is required to process carbs than fat. What this means effectively is that a 2,500-calories-a-day high-protein diet adds fewer calories to the body than a 2,500-calories-a-day high-carb diet, which in turn adds fewer calories to the body than a 2,500-calories-a-day high-fat diet.
Admittedly, the differences are small. They do not in themselves constitute a rationale to consume a high-protein, low-fat diet for weight management.'
So that's food for thought.
We are talking about a unit of measurement.0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Cheesecake is generally classified as a custard tart due to its lack of flour. However, New York style cheesecake does contain flour, and therefore could be classified as cake.
Custard pie or torte are the two things I will accept.
Maybe the general consensus is custard pie and I just got confused.
A huge thunderstorm last night kept waking up my kids and I didn't get much sleep. If my husband hadn't just left for a weeklong elk hunt I'd probably allow myself to pass out, that's how tired I am.
It is actually a matter of contention. Plus cheesecake varies from country to country as well.0 -
I agree with the OP
It's about how your body utilizes a calorie of fat, protein or carbohydrate that makes the difference in nutrition and weight loss. Fats spend very little energy to be metabolized and stored as compared with carbs and proteins.
Check this website out :
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/nutrition/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie.aspx
. 'The energy cost to metabolize fat, carbs and protein is different
The body must use energy to digest, absorb and metabolize the energy in food. And it so happens that the body uses different amounts of energy to process different energy-containing nutrients. Generally, more energy is required to process protein than carbs, and more energy is required to process carbs than fat. What this means effectively is that a 2,500-calories-a-day high-protein diet adds fewer calories to the body than a 2,500-calories-a-day high-carb diet, which in turn adds fewer calories to the body than a 2,500-calories-a-day high-fat diet.
Admittedly, the differences are small. They do not in themselves constitute a rationale to consume a high-protein, low-fat diet for weight management.'
So that's food for thought.
You're talking about the different thermic effects of various macros...
This is majoring in the minors. This sort of information will not make the slightest bit of difference unless you're literally getting ready to down to single digit bodyfat and step on stage to be critiqued. Even then, it won't make that much of a difference if your are consistently tracking your intake over an extended period of time.0 -
I agree with the OP
It's about how your body utilizes a calorie of fat, protein or carbohydrate that makes the difference in nutrition and weight loss. Fats spend very little energy to be metabolized and stored as compared with carbs and proteins.
Check this website out :
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/nutrition/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie.aspx
. 'The energy cost to metabolize fat, carbs and protein is different
The body must use energy to digest, absorb and metabolize the energy in food. And it so happens that the body uses different amounts of energy to process different energy-containing nutrients. Generally, more energy is required to process protein than carbs, and more energy is required to process carbs than fat. What this means effectively is that a 2,500-calories-a-day high-protein diet adds fewer calories to the body than a 2,500-calories-a-day high-carb diet, which in turn adds fewer calories to the body than a 2,500-calories-a-day high-fat diet.
Admittedly, the differences are small. They do not in themselves constitute a rationale to consume a high-protein, low-fat diet for weight management.'
So that's food for thought.
Not only are the differences small....they are negligible. People WAY over think and over analyze this stuff. Eat less calories than you burn if only weight loss is your goal. If you goal is body recomp, make sure the calories are properly balanced with protein/carb/fat and lift weights. Why would anyone want to over complicate this.0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Cheesecake is generally classified as a custard tart due to its lack of flour. However, New York style cheesecake does contain flour, and therefore could be classified as cake.
Custard pie or torte are the two things I will accept.
Maybe the general consensus is custard pie and I just got confused.
A huge thunderstorm last night kept waking up my kids and I didn't get much sleep. If my husband hadn't just left for a weeklong elk hunt I'd probably allow myself to pass out, that's how tired I am.
It is actually a matter of contention. Plus cheesecake varies from country to country as well.
I'll go with wikipedia: "Cheesecakes, despite their name, aren't really cakes at all. Cheesecakes are in fact custard pies, with a filling made mostly of some form of cheese (often cream cheese, mascarpone, ricotta or the like), and have very little flour added, although a flour-based or graham cracker crust may be used. Cheesecakes are also very old, with evidence of honey-sweetened cakes dating back to ancient Greece."0 -
This doesn't surprise me, majority of you use chemical substances such as aspartame ad sucralose as an alternative to sugar, because someone, somewhere told you it's completely healthy and natural.
Anyways, I dare any of you to consume 1200 calories of pizza a day for a month and monitor your results.
Now the next month eat 1200 calories of whole natural foods, preferably raw, organic fruits and vegetables. including raw nuts. and no, peanuts are not nuts. Now if you yield the same results with both diets I would be amazed, and it's simply would not happen. The fact is, at the end of the day, your body stores away fat in a means of protecting you. It's not going to store away the vegetables because it doesn't contain any fat, your body wants to store fat in case you suddenly don't have food anymore.
Pizza is a completely man made food, your body wasn't even designed to even digest man made foods . The body thrives on natural foods.
PeaNUTS are not nuts? Yeah, okay....
Okay, as much as I hate to defend anything from this post, peanuts are actually legumes (as opposed to tree nuts).0
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