All calories are not the same
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This is an argument I have quite often with people.
All calories are not the same. 250 calories from a slice of pizza is not the same as 250 calories from a meal consisting of grilled chicken breast, a side of quinoa and fresh raw spinach.
If you agree or disagree, please post in the in the comment section below
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Jaffa Cake....Biscuit or Cake?
It's found in the biscuit aisle, is shaped like a biscuit and referred to as such....but being British, the argument went BIG and was finally classed as cake in a court of law. The deciding factor? A Jaffa cake goes stale instead of soft. Cake goes stale, biscuits go soft. McVities took the argument to court over an age-old VAT argument. Good lord! We've all gone maaaad!!!0 -
This is an argument I have quite often with people.
All calories are not the same. 250 calories from a slice of pizza is not the same as 250 calories from a meal consisting of grilled chicken breast, a side of quinoa and fresh raw spinach.
If you agree or disagree, please post in the in the comment section below
Of course not, the pizza tastes a lot better.0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Cheesecake is generally classified as a custard tart due to its lack of flour. However, New York style cheesecake does contain flour, and therefore could be classified as cake.
Custard pie or torte are the two things I will accept.
Maybe the general consensus is custard pie and I just got confused.
A huge thunderstorm last night kept waking up my kids and I didn't get much sleep. If my husband hadn't just left for a weeklong elk hunt I'd probably allow myself to pass out, that's how tired I am.
It is actually a matter of contention. Plus cheesecake varies from country to country as well.
I'll go with wikipedia: "Cheesecakes, despite their name, aren't really cakes at all. Cheesecakes are in fact custard pies, with a filling made mostly of some form of cheese (often cream cheese, mascarpone, ricotta or the like), and have very little flour added, although a flour-based or graham cracker crust may be used. Cheesecakes are also very old, with evidence of honey-sweetened cakes dating back to ancient Greece."
Also from Wikipedia: "Whether baked cheesecake should be classified as a cake, a custard, a torte, or something else is a matter of debate.
The early Greeks considered it a cake. Some modern authors point to the presence of many eggs, the sole source of leavening, as proof that it is a torte. Still others claim that the separate crust, the soft filling, and the absence of flour prove that it is a custard pie.[11]"0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Cheesecake is generally classified as a custard tart due to its lack of flour. However, New York style cheesecake does contain flour, and therefore could be classified as cake.
Custard pie or torte are the two things I will accept.
Maybe the general consensus is custard pie and I just got confused.
A huge thunderstorm last night kept waking up my kids and I didn't get much sleep. If my husband hadn't just left for a weeklong elk hunt I'd probably allow myself to pass out, that's how tired I am.
It is actually a matter of contention. Plus cheesecake varies from country to country as well.
I'll go with wikipedia: "Cheesecakes, despite their name, aren't really cakes at all. Cheesecakes are in fact custard pies, with a filling made mostly of some form of cheese (often cream cheese, mascarpone, ricotta or the like), and have very little flour added, although a flour-based or graham cracker crust may be used. Cheesecakes are also very old, with evidence of honey-sweetened cakes dating back to ancient Greece."
Also from Wikipedia: "Whether baked cheesecake should be classified as a cake, a custard, a torte, or something else is a matter of debate.
The early Greeks considered it a cake. Some modern authors point to the presence of many eggs, the sole source of leavening, as proof that it is a torte. Still others claim that the separate crust, the soft filling, and the absence of flour prove that it is a custard pie.[11]"
Next thing you know, people are going to start claiming that pie isn't really pie, but I'll eat the hell out of some pie.0 -
Next thing you know, people are going to start claiming that pie isn't really pie, but I'll eat the hell out of some pie.
Pot pie isn't really a pie, it's a stew with a crust. Discuss.0 -
Great, another thread started by someone who doesn't know the difference between a calorie and a nutrient....0
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This doesn't surprise me, majority of you use chemical substances such as aspartame ad sucralose as an alternative to sugar, because someone, somewhere told you it's completely healthy and natural.
Anyways, I dare any of you to consume 1200 calories of pizza a day for a month and monitor your results.
Now the next month eat 1200 calories of whole natural foods, preferably raw, organic fruits and vegetables. including raw nuts. and no, peanuts are not nuts. Now if you yield the same results with both diets I would be amazed, and it's simply would not happen. The fact is, at the end of the day, your body stores away fat in a means of protecting you. It's not going to store away the vegetables because it doesn't contain any fat, your body wants to store fat in case you suddenly don't have food anymore.
Pizza is a completely man made food, your body wasn't even designed to even digest man made foods . The body thrives on natural foods.
What is with the dares like this on here? Who the effe would want to eat pizza every day and nothing else? Most people include variety in their food choices. Hit your macros, make sure you get plenty of vitamins and minerals and don't eat over your goal calories and enjoy a few slices of pizza every once in a while. It does not have to be all or nothing.
A calorie is a calorie, NUTRITION can vary from food to food but as long as you are meeting your nutritional needs overall, mixing in foods with lower nutritional values won't effect you negatively.
My favorite pizza that I make at home is grilled chicken, spinach and fresh mushrooms on a crispy thin crust... NUMMY!0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Cheesecake is generally classified as a custard tart due to its lack of flour. However, New York style cheesecake does contain flour, and therefore could be classified as cake.
Custard pie or torte are the two things I will accept.
Maybe the general consensus is custard pie and I just got confused.
A huge thunderstorm last night kept waking up my kids and I didn't get much sleep. If my husband hadn't just left for a weeklong elk hunt I'd probably allow myself to pass out, that's how tired I am.
It is actually a matter of contention. Plus cheesecake varies from country to country as well.
I'll go with wikipedia: "Cheesecakes, despite their name, aren't really cakes at all. Cheesecakes are in fact custard pies, with a filling made mostly of some form of cheese (often cream cheese, mascarpone, ricotta or the like), and have very little flour added, although a flour-based or graham cracker crust may be used. Cheesecakes are also very old, with evidence of honey-sweetened cakes dating back to ancient Greece."
Also from Wikipedia: "Whether baked cheesecake should be classified as a cake, a custard, a torte, or something else is a matter of debate.
The early Greeks considered it a cake. Some modern authors point to the presence of many eggs, the sole source of leavening, as proof that it is a torte. Still others claim that the separate crust, the soft filling, and the absence of flour prove that it is a custard pie.[11]"
Well then I'll go with wikipedia selectively? lol0 -
It's craziness. PeaNUTs are not a nut. CheeseCAKE is not a cake.
IT IS INSANITY
Cheesecake is generally classified as a custard tart due to its lack of flour. However, New York style cheesecake does contain flour, and therefore could be classified as cake.
Custard pie or torte are the two things I will accept.
Maybe the general consensus is custard pie and I just got confused.
A huge thunderstorm last night kept waking up my kids and I didn't get much sleep. If my husband hadn't just left for a weeklong elk hunt I'd probably allow myself to pass out, that's how tired I am.
It is actually a matter of contention. Plus cheesecake varies from country to country as well.
I'll go with wikipedia: "Cheesecakes, despite their name, aren't really cakes at all. Cheesecakes are in fact custard pies, with a filling made mostly of some form of cheese (often cream cheese, mascarpone, ricotta or the like), and have very little flour added, although a flour-based or graham cracker crust may be used. Cheesecakes are also very old, with evidence of honey-sweetened cakes dating back to ancient Greece."
Also from Wikipedia: "Whether baked cheesecake should be classified as a cake, a custard, a torte, or something else is a matter of debate.
The early Greeks considered it a cake. Some modern authors point to the presence of many eggs, the sole source of leavening, as proof that it is a torte. Still others claim that the separate crust, the soft filling, and the absence of flour prove that it is a custard pie.[11]"
Cheesecake is it's own delicious food group.
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Well then I'll go with wikipedia selectively? lol
:laugh: And the great debate continues. :P0 -
Well then I'll go with wikipedia selectively? lol
:laugh: And the great debate continues. :P
Great. I'll be up all night stressing over the answer . . .0 -
You're going to get hammered by the IIFYM posse, look out!0
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Next thing you know, people are going to start claiming that pie isn't really pie, but I'll eat the hell out of some pie.
Pot pie isn't really a pie, it's a stew with a crust. Discuss.
Agree. If it had a crust on the bottom as well, then it would be a savory pie. Like meat pies. YesNo?0 -
Well then I'll go with wikipedia selectively? lol
:laugh: And the great debate continues. :P
Great. I'll be up all night stressing over the answer . . .
Well there is no debate as to whether or not cheesecake is delicious. Because those that say it isn't, well, they're just flat out wrong.0 -
Next thing you know, people are going to start claiming that pie isn't really pie, but I'll eat the hell out of some pie.
Pot pie isn't really a pie, it's a stew with a crust. Discuss.
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I so appreciate this article. I read it with great interest. I believe the author hits the nail on the head. While a calorie is a calorie, I know that a chicken breast is better for me, and makes me feel better physically, than a coke. Simple.0
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I so appreciate this article. I read it with great interest. I believe the author hits the nail on the head. While a calorie is a calorie, I know that a chicken breast is better for me, and makes me feel better physically, than a coke. Simple.
You need context. I know that a coke will make me feel better when I first wake up due to the caffeine jolt.0 -
For anyone who is really interested in knowing the truth about calories not leading to the same result I suggest checking this website out. To get into the digits, would suggest prior knowledge of how lipids, proteins and fats are metabolized and stored by the body.
http://www.jissn.com/content/1/2/21
It contains the results of studies, performed on same calorie high carb diets and low carb diets, and I'm not going to summarize it, read it for yourselves please!0 -
You need context. I know that a coke will make me feel better when I first wake up due to the caffeine jolt.
and the jolt to your blood sugar, which will crash
same issue with pizza vs a lean protein and veg0 -
...I know that a chicken breast is better for me, and makes me feel better physically, than a coke.
Calories as nothing to do with it. To actually demonstrate the OP's claim, you need to produce two foods with same calories, similar nutrient profile, one "healthy" and one "man made".
And then show a meaningful difference in body recomposition between people ingesting the two different foods.
Good luck with that...0 -
You need context. I know that a coke will make me feel better when I first wake up due to the caffeine jolt.
and the jolt to your blood sugar, which will crash
same issue with pizza vs a lean protein and veg
I would say that is true for a lot of people, but I don't really experience that crash.0 -
...I know that a chicken breast is better for me, and makes me feel better physically, than a coke.
Calories as nothing to do with it. To actually demonstrate the OP's claim, you need to produce two foods with same calories, similar nutrient profile, one "healthy" and one "man made".
And then show a meaningful difference in body recomposition between people ingesting the two different foods.
Good luck with that...
to be fair, only the OP can clarify whether or not he meant to emphasize the difference in nutrient profile or if he really just wanted to claim that there is a difference with healthy vs man made foods0 -
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/opinion/sunday/what-really-makes-us-fat.html?_r=0
This article by the NY Times is a pretty good read on this topic.0 -
...I know that a chicken breast is better for me, and makes me feel better physically, than a coke.
Calories as nothing to do with it. To actually demonstrate the OP's claim, you need to produce two foods with same calories, similar nutrient profile, one "healthy" and one "man made".
And then show a meaningful difference in body recomposition between people ingesting the two different foods.
Good luck with that...
to be fair, only the OP can clarify whether or not he meant to emphasize the difference in nutrient profile or if he really just wanted to claim that there is a difference with healthy vs man made foods
I disagree with the dichotomy that food is either healthy or man made.0 -
I disagree with the dichotomy that food is either healthy or man made.
I'd personally need someone (OP) to define man made if that is what he's going for0 -
I disagree with the dichotomy that food is either healthy or man made.
So do I.
The OP is up to bat.0 -
What you mean is the nutrients are not the same. Which has nothing to do with calories. 250 calories is 250 calories no matter what the food is.0
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I'm thinking that 250 calories of pizza has more nutrients than 250 calories of chicken.0
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A wider spectrum fo sho.I'm thinking that 250 calories of pizza has more nutrients than 250 calories of chicken.0
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