The Skinny on Obesity (or: "Calories are not created equal")
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dance dance dance and enjoy the world and dance .. hahahaha love the vid....:laugh:0
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hey kiddo not really all just sugar all the carbs in pasta and cheese and over doing and no exercise .. but then the Type 1 have that DNA Gene that will get them one way or the other.. Family Family Family... so we just keep trying to do the right things to have a healthier life and to do what we can with our kids and spouse to have them have a healthier life.. hugs an Old Lady of Time.. Ardy Richter Milwaukee WI0
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most of you are very young but back in the 1960's when the soda TAB came around it was the rage.. wow.. it was not bad and then they did a test on it ... you could get cancer from it. hahahahah ok I was in college and in a school of Teaching for Medical we did our tests and the Math group did the math break it down
if you drink 14 12 oz bottle a day for a year yes you will get Cancer the Rats provided that information BUT...
if you are human and drink that much
1 your body can not process that much fluid in a day..
2 in a week your lungs will fill with fluid and you will drowned from the extra water..
so on the bottom like your body will kill you with water that it can not dump out of you as fast as you can drink it..
yep you will die but not of Cancer.. and Red M&M's will not do this either hahahahahhaha
have had my Breast Cancer and WON Why its Family Kids Family do what the Winners of your Family did and live to the
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Shhhhhh! Stop poking holes in perfectly good diatribe with your mathmatical skepticism! Just because someone doesn't understand arithmetic doesn't mean they don't understand complex metabolic processes involving hundreds of variables.
Well, actually, it's not beyond the realms of possibility. I can solve Schrodinger's Equation to work out thermochemical properties of various chemicals (e.g. how much energy you can theoretically release from a pound of glucose)... but I *do* have trouble adding up.
(This wouldn't be a problem if I was a biochemist. But I'm not. I'm an accountant...)0 -
people didnt get diabetic from eating berries and apples
It take 8 feet of sugar cane, imagine chewing on that , to get the equivalent amt. of sugar of one can of soda
ahhh yes the "fruit sugar is good " argument but "soda sugar" is bad argument...tried and tested as absolute garbage...0 -
people didnt get diabetic from eating berries and apples
It take 8 feet of sugar cane, imagine chewing on that , to get the equivalent amt. of sugar of one can of soda
ahhh yes the "fruit sugar is good " argument but "soda sugar" is bad argument...tried and tested as absolute garbage...
I don't think it's that some sugar is "good" while others are "bad". I think it's more of it's a lot harder to eat too much sugar from fruit than it is to eat too much sugar from oreos & snickers bars. Also, it IS a little frustrating that sugar is added to so many foods unnecessarily. For example, look at spaghetti sauces next time you're in the grocery store. You'll have a hard time finding one without sugar added. If you make your own without sugar in it, or find a jar that doesn't have sugar added, you'll find that it tastes just fine without the sugar added. So... WHY do so many food producers add it? Tomatoes have enough sugar in them to make the sauce sweet, it's totally unnecessary. Again, I didn't watch the video (although I've seen parts of it in the past), I'm sure it takes the whole sugar thing to the extreme, but that doesn't discount the fact that sugar consumption is a bit out of control these days and it won't hurt the majority of people to make an effort to cut back on their sugar consumption.0 -
What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.0 -
What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
FYI.
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Cut out *added* sugars and the weight dropped off. it's not long term sustainable, but if you get it under control, you can keep the sugar demon at bay. (yes i eat chocolate and drink beer). it's not that one is *worse* then the other.. it's simply the amount consumed per day that makes it unhealthy.
"1 teaspoon of sugar is 4 grams. Current recommendations are for no more than 6-8 teaspoons of added sugars each day, that is 16-32 grams per day of sweeteners."
Poster above me: You don't really consume that much sugar, unless every bit of that is added sugars. Assuming you eat fruits and other foods that contain natural sugars you are well withing the low sugar guidelines except for a few days. I eat very little added sugar and I end up between 60-80g per day and that's where you look to be most days.0 -
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...because I just can't help myself around sugar threads.
In because I have decided to stalk Jo
and for the fun ensuing
and I have to go for lunch
and needed to mark this for afternoon tomfollery.0 -
if you drink 14 12 oz bottle a day for a year yes you will get Cancer the Rats provided that information BUT...
if you are human and drink that much
1 your body can not process that much fluid in a day..
2 in a week your lungs will fill with fluid and you will drowned from the extra water..
so on the bottom like your body will kill you with water that it can not dump out of you as fast as you can drink it..
You can't process 48 oz of fluid per day? (i drink way more then that!) and I spend about half my day in the bathroom. LOL
I'm not a soda advocate.. but apparently I am going to drown due to fluid intake.
Feel bad for the soda drinkers..
(ok I read that as 4 12 oz bottles... 14 makes a bit more sense, that's a ridiculous amount of fluid.. LOL)0 -
There have been dozens of threads about this. Personally, I believe it, but it doesn't change anything for me. I still need to eat my 'junk' food or I'd never stick to any kind of 'diet'. If it means I lose 1 less lb every 2 months, I couldn't care less.
Exactly! Ice cream, cookies, cake.0 -
What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
I feel like this is an odd statement considering I know for a fact half these people are over their sugar "goal" daily. Also consider my diary: at least a half cup of ice cream or geleto nightly (who eats a quarter cup. So unsatisfying.) Usually with cookies or brownies or cake or some nutella on top.
I wonder which diaries you actually looked at.0 -
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...because I just can't help myself around sugar threads.
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What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
I feel like this is an odd statement considering I know for a fact half these people are over their sugar "goal" daily. Also consider my diary: at least a half cup of ice cream or geleto nightly (who eats a quarter cup. So unsatisfying.) Usually with cookies or brownies or cake or some nutella on top.
I wonder which diaries you actually looked at.
I'm only rarely over my sugar goal. Days that I do go over are great successes.
Of course, my sugar goal is 160 grams.0 -
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What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
I feel like this is an odd statement considering I know for a fact half these people are over their sugar "goal" daily. Also consider my diary: at least a half cup of ice cream or geleto nightly (who eats a quarter cup. So unsatisfying.) Usually with cookies or brownies or cake or some nutella on top.
I wonder which diaries you actually looked at.
I'm only rarely over my sugar goal. Days that I do go over are great successes.
Of course, my sugar goal is 160 grams.
I don't mess with the sugar numbers. It defaults to whatever MFP decides.. which is so low. I watch it just because I know what added sugar does to me. But i'm not worried about staying under the goal. I wouldn't know what to change it too anyway.
This is what I go by.. "1 teaspoon of sugar is 4 grams. Current recommendations are for no more than 6-8 teaspoons of added sugars each day, that is 16-32 grams per day of sweeteners."0 -
What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
I feel like this is an odd statement considering I know for a fact half these people are over their sugar "goal" daily. Also consider my diary: at least a half cup of ice cream or geleto nightly (who eats a quarter cup. So unsatisfying.) Usually with cookies or brownies or cake or some nutella on top.
I wonder which diaries you actually looked at.
I'm only rarely over my sugar goal. Days that I do go over are great successes.
Of course, my sugar goal is 160 grams.
I recently tweaked my goals, which put sugar back at its default. A check on the app tells me I'm only 12 grams over for the week, which is actually pretty amazing for me.
I must be off my game.0 -
What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
I feel like this is an odd statement considering I know for a fact half these people are over their sugar "goal" daily. Also consider my diary: at least a half cup of ice cream or geleto nightly (who eats a quarter cup. So unsatisfying.) Usually with cookies or brownies or cake or some nutella on top.
I wonder which diaries you actually looked at.
I'm only rarely over my sugar goal. Days that I do go over are great successes.
Of course, my sugar goal is 160 grams.
I don't mess with the sugar numbers. It defaults to whatever MFP decides.. which is so low. I watch it just because I know what added sugar does to me. But i'm not worried about staying under the goal. I wouldn't know what to change it too anyway.
This is what I go by.. "1 teaspoon of sugar is 4 grams. Current recommendations are for no more than 6-8 teaspoons of added sugars each day, that is 16-32 grams per day of sweeteners."
And remind me, what is that?0 -
OMG, that is hilarious. YES, the right TWIX is the evil one. :laugh:0
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What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
I feel like this is an odd statement considering I know for a fact half these people are over their sugar "goal" daily. Also consider my diary: at least a half cup of ice cream or geleto nightly (who eats a quarter cup. So unsatisfying.) Usually with cookies or brownies or cake or some nutella on top.
I wonder which diaries you actually looked at.
I'm only rarely over my sugar goal. Days that I do go over are great successes.
Of course, my sugar goal is 160 grams.
I don't mess with the sugar numbers. It defaults to whatever MFP decides.. which is so low. I watch it just because I know what added sugar does to me. But i'm not worried about staying under the goal. I wouldn't know what to change it too anyway.
This is what I go by.. "1 teaspoon of sugar is 4 grams. Current recommendations are for no more than 6-8 teaspoons of added sugars each day, that is 16-32 grams per day of sweeteners."
And remind me, what is that?
I read that line, and almost posted a response to it. Then didn't. I'm glad someone did, though.0 -
What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
I skipped lunch yesterday and went for a walk so I could eat a big bowl of ice cream with chocolate sauce. Sugar rocks my world. :-D0 -
How did I miss this epic fail propaganda thread?
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What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
FYI.
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People are so rude! wow, why can't someone post something and not get all of the sarcasm and speculation. if you aren't interested just don't post it...even if it's alreay in the threads 1000 times you don't have to be rude.
OP, thanks for sharing, I have not seen this yet0 -
if you drink 14 12 oz bottle a day for a year yes you will get Cancer the Rats provided that information BUT...
if you are human and drink that much
1 your body can not process that much fluid in a day..
2 in a week your lungs will fill with fluid and you will drowned from the extra water..
so on the bottom like your body will kill you with water that it can not dump out of you as fast as you can drink it..
WHAT?! Where in the world did you pull this information from? Do you even think about what you're typing?
14 * 12 = 168 oz
EVERY day this is the minimum I drink and have for over two years
Water: 19 8 oz cups a day 19*8 = 152 oz
Soda: 4-5 (we'll say 4) 12 oz diet sodas 4*12 = 48 oz
Coffee: 4-6 (we'll say 5) 5 oz cups 5*5 = 25 oz
Add that together and that's 225 oz of liquid on top of anything ingested from food. Sometimes I even drink more than that. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.0 -
What I find most amusing about the the sugar threads and the sugar thread addicts is looking at people's diaries. With the exception of the chick who eats candy for breakfast, the vast majority of the people who refute sugar is a problem, aren't actually eating it. Oh, I know there is the occasional small piece of candy, the quarter cup of ice cream, small portion of rice pudding, but on balance, they eat good food. Balanced diets without a lot of junk - even 1200 calorie diets! Now, before I get blasted, I have a life (at least I try). I could only look at so many diaries and a couple days each. Props to the guy who was in for a bowl of ice cream. He actually ate a bowl of ice cream.
If you feel you are the exception to the above generalization - I am sure you are and preemptively believe you.
I don't eat a ton of sugar and eat a pretty nutrient dense and balanced diet...it has nothing to do with some irrational fear of sugar...it has everything to do with the fact that I'd rather spend my calories elsewhere...I'm much more of a "savory" than a "sweet" kinda guy. I can eat meat for dessert and absolutely feel awesome about it. But I don't have some kind of irrational fear of sugar...I eat it when I want to eat it...if I want a soda, I have a soda...if i want to steel my kids fruit snacks, I steel my kid's fruit snacks...
Also, I drink beer...which is where most of my sugar intake comes from...delicious, delicious beer.0 -
People are so rude! wow, why can't someone post something and not get all of the sarcasm and speculation. if you aren't interested just don't post it...even if it's alreay in the threads 1000 times you don't have to be rude.
OP, thanks for sharing, I have not seen this yet
It's not rude to disprove inaccurate information. We ARE interested and we DO post because we don't want bad information getting passed around to people who don't know the real science behind weight loss. And I wouldn't really call it speculation. It's science.0 -
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